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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    In actual game the difference is far more pronounced than a compressed image. It's quite funny.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I sort of wish this game had stayed with the mass effect convention of only giving you choices between meanings of what you're saying, rather than the actual text.

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  • chrono_travellerchrono_traveller Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    In actual game the difference is far more pronounced than a compressed image. It's quite funny.

    I got a kick out of it. :lol:

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Dyscord wrote: »
    I sort of wish this game had stayed with the mass effect convention of only giving you choices between meanings of what you're saying, rather than the actual text.

    100% agree, but I imagine there was a reason for them to do it this way. Mass Effect was a more, forgive me, cinematic game. The dialogue was more focused on watching, like a Film Noir movie you were directing.

    This was a fantasy story. Therefore, they needed text. And writers. Lots of writers. And...



    Well, writing out responses is easier. The real reason, afaik, that they developed the system for Mass Effect that they did was that all the dialog from Shepard was voiced. So it'd be pointless have you read it all, just to then hear him say it all. Pointless and tedious.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    yeah, that is the reason they did it.

    It made the game so much more immersive though, and it let conversations feel like real conversations as opposed to a progression through menus with voice acting.

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Dyscord wrote: »
    yeah, that is the reason they did it.

    It made the game so much more immersive though, and it let conversations feel like real conversations as opposed to a progression through menus with voice acting.

    The problem I see with it is that they either voice the character after you choose (possibly doubling the amount of voicework needed), or they simply provide the text of your choice for you to read after you choose (in which case they're just making conversations more tedious and frustrating), or they don't provide you with text at all, and you just choose an emotion or type of response, and everyone responds to that, while you pretend to have said whatever you wanted.

    The first two are unsavory options, and the third I can't see working very well.

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  • DissociaterDissociater Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Dyscord wrote: »
    I sort of wish this game had stayed with the mass effect convention of only giving you choices between meanings of what you're saying, rather than the actual text.

    100% agree, but I imagine there was a reason for them to do it this way. Mass Effect was a more, forgive me, cinematic game. The dialogue was more focused on watching, like a Film Noir movie you were directing.

    This was a fantasy story. Therefore, they needed text. And writers. Lots of writers. And...



    Well, writing out responses is easier. The real reason, afaik, that they developed the system for Mass Effect that they did was that all the dialog from Shepard was voiced. So it'd be pointless have you read it all, just to then hear him say it all. Pointless and tedious.

    Also, the amount of voice recording would have been pretty crazy for dragon age if they did it in mass effect style, considering the multiple races and backgrounds, and being able to make a female character as well.

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    considering the multiple races and backgrounds, and being able to make a female character as well.

    The humor to be found here is the implication of priority.


    "Yeah man, you can be an Elf, or a human, or a dwarf, and each of those can have different voices and different backgrounds... I guess you can be a chick, too."

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I asked this yesterday and I never saw an answer, and I'm a lazy bitch and don't want to go back and look, so:

    Has anyone found any one-handers better than Starfang? My 3x GM rune Starfang is still the best sword I've seen, and it's not even close.

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    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    I asked this yesterday and I never saw an answer, and I'm a lazy bitch and don't want to go back and look, so:

    Has anyone found any one-handers better than Starfang? My 3x GM rune Starfang is still the best sword I've seen, and it's not even close.

    There are no one handers better than Starfang. There are equivalent, but not better. Keening Blade is about on par with Starfang and the Veshialle can be better than it depending on what you're trying to do.

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  • MahnmutMahnmut Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Dyscord wrote: »
    I sort of wish this game had stayed with the mass effect convention of only giving you choices between meanings of what you're saying, rather than the actual text.

    100% agree, but I imagine there was a reason for them to do it this way. Mass Effect was a more, forgive me, cinematic game. The dialogue was more focused on watching, like a Film Noir movie you were directing.

    This was a fantasy story. Therefore, they needed text. And writers. Lots of writers. And...



    Well, writing out responses is easier. The real reason, afaik, that they developed the system for Mass Effect that they did was that all the dialog from Shepard was voiced. So it'd be pointless have you read it all, just to then hear him say it all. Pointless and tedious.

    Also, the amount of voice recording would have been pretty crazy for dragon age if they did it in mass effect style, considering the multiple races and backgrounds, and being able to make a female character as well.

    Your point stands, but there was in fact a female Shepard.

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    I asked this yesterday and I never saw an answer, and I'm a lazy bitch and don't want to go back and look, so:

    Has anyone found any one-handers better than Starfang? My 3x GM rune Starfang is still the best sword I've seen, and it's not even close.

    There are no one handers better than Starfang. There are equivalent, but not better. Keening Blade is about on par with Starfang and the Veshialle can be better than it depending on what you're trying to do.

    Well then. I use it as Alistair's tanking sword, so I have some resist runes in it right now. At least I know not to keep looking really hard for a better sword.

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    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Yeah you're definitely set then. The difference between the Keening Blade and Starfang is pretty trivial, and Veshialle is only really a big deal (so I hear) for Rogues.

    Apparently it's good for dual wielding with Rose's Thorn.

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I found Rose's Thorn yesterday, but I don't have the cash to drop on it right now, because I just bought the Reavers Vestments for my PC. Where do you get Vashialle?

    e: Also, I think my next big purchase is going to be the Lifegiver ring for Alistair, because that thing is an amazing tank ring.

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    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Oh damn it all! I just ran into a random encounter with a few elven archers behind barricade fighting nearly two dozen darkspawn archers and two or three shrieks. I foolishly quicksaved right before I engaged them, so I'm kinda stuck there. The only AoE spell I've got on hand is fucking Earthquake, and that knocks my party down long before it even inconveniences the enemy.

    I can take down a few, but that many archers means my party becomes pincushions no matter what I do. I am so screwed.

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    Oh damn it all! I just ran into a random encounter with a few elven archers behind barricade fighting nearly two dozen darkspawn archers and two or three shrieks. I foolishly quicksaved right before I engaged them, so I'm kinda stuck there. The only AoE spell I've got on hand is fucking Earthquake, and that knocks my party down long before it even inconveniences the enemy.

    I can take down a few, but that many archers means my party becomes pincushions no matter what I do. I am so screwed.

    Drop your difficulty down to easy for that fight, just to get through it so you're not stuck.

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    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    I found Rose's Thorn yesterday, but I don't have the cash to drop on it right now, because I just bought the Reavers Vestments for my PC. Where do you get Vashialle?

    e: Also, I think my next big purchase is going to be the Lifegiver ring for Alistair, because that thing is an amazing tank ring.

    Veshialle is bought from Bodahn. It's an axe :)

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  • HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2009
    Dyscord wrote: »
    The speed the blight advances on the map doesn't make a ton of sense either.
    It certainly does not. Just after you leave Lothering you can go to the Chanter's Board and pick up a side quest. The quest is to investigate a battlefield.

    So the battlefield location pops up on your map, and it's north west of Denerim and a little south east of Highever. When you get there the description is that you've found an abandoned battlefield where the Darkspawn army have already gone through and killed stuff. What this basically means, counting estimated travel time, is that the blight had already gone from the Korcari wilds in the deep south, to just outside Highever in the far north in like one week after the battle where Duncan fell.

    Which doesn't really make sense when you keep playing the game for some months of in-game time after that and the blight still hasn't done anything else.

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    Oh damn it all! I just ran into a random encounter with a few elven archers behind barricade fighting nearly two dozen darkspawn archers and two or three shrieks. I foolishly quicksaved right before I engaged them, so I'm kinda stuck there. The only AoE spell I've got on hand is fucking Earthquake, and that knocks my party down long before it even inconveniences the enemy.

    I can take down a few, but that many archers means my party becomes pincushions no matter what I do. I am so screwed.

    Drop your difficulty down to easy for that fight, just to get through it so you're not stuck.

    Or use this opportunity to permanently better yourself. Make it through this trial and you'll atually have fucking learned something.

    Be a man.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSS5dEeMX64

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    I found Rose's Thorn yesterday, but I don't have the cash to drop on it right now, because I just bought the Reavers Vestments for my PC. Where do you get Vashialle?

    e: Also, I think my next big purchase is going to be the Lifegiver ring for Alistair, because that thing is an amazing tank ring.

    Veshialle is bought from Bodahn. It's an axe :)

    Ahhh. Why would I use an axe as a Lethality Assassin/Bard build? I'm pretty happy with my daggers, and will be even more happy once I get a 3X GM Rose's Thorn in her hands.

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    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    Oh damn it all! I just ran into a random encounter with a few elven archers behind barricade fighting nearly two dozen darkspawn archers and two or three shrieks. I foolishly quicksaved right before I engaged them, so I'm kinda stuck there. The only AoE spell I've got on hand is fucking Earthquake, and that knocks my party down long before it even inconveniences the enemy.

    I can take down a few, but that many archers means my party becomes pincushions no matter what I do. I am so screwed.

    Drop your difficulty down to easy for that fight, just to get through it so you're not stuck.

    Or use this opportunity to permanently better yourself. Make it through this trial and you'll atually have fucking learned something.

    Be a man.

    Or he'll burn himself out trying a fight over and over again that he wasn't really prepared for and got himself stuck at.

    GnomeTank on
    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    I found Rose's Thorn yesterday, but I don't have the cash to drop on it right now, because I just bought the Reavers Vestments for my PC. Where do you get Vashialle?

    e: Also, I think my next big purchase is going to be the Lifegiver ring for Alistair, because that thing is an amazing tank ring.

    Veshialle is bought from Bodahn. It's an axe :)

    Ahhh. Why would I use an axe as a Lethality Assassin/Bard build? I'm pretty happy with my daggers, and will be even more happy once I get a 3X GM Rose's Thorn in her hands.

    Between the Fade, Harvest Festival Ring, Key to the City, and Helm of Honnleath which are all items you never have much reason to ever take off getting the strength requirement to use things like Starfang and/or Veshialle as a Rogue is pretty trivial.

    High base damage and crit chance can add up with the additional +10% crit/backstab damage that Veshialle offers.

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  • TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    Oh damn it all! I just ran into a random encounter with a few elven archers behind barricade fighting nearly two dozen darkspawn archers and two or three shrieks. I foolishly quicksaved right before I engaged them, so I'm kinda stuck there. The only AoE spell I've got on hand is fucking Earthquake, and that knocks my party down long before it even inconveniences the enemy.

    I can take down a few, but that many archers means my party becomes pincushions no matter what I do. I am so screwed.

    Drop your difficulty down to easy for that fight, just to get through it so you're not stuck.

    Or use this opportunity to permanently better yourself. Make it through this trial and you'll atually have fucking learned something.

    Be a man.

    Or he'll burn himself out trying a fight over and over again that he wasn't really prepared for and got himself stuck at.

    That's one thing I miss from BG2...being able to run away.

    TrippyJing on
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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    Oh damn it all! I just ran into a random encounter with a few elven archers behind barricade fighting nearly two dozen darkspawn archers and two or three shrieks. I foolishly quicksaved right before I engaged them, so I'm kinda stuck there. The only AoE spell I've got on hand is fucking Earthquake, and that knocks my party down long before it even inconveniences the enemy.

    I can take down a few, but that many archers means my party becomes pincushions no matter what I do. I am so screwed.

    Drop your difficulty down to easy for that fight, just to get through it so you're not stuck.

    Or use this opportunity to permanently better yourself. Make it through this trial and you'll atually have fucking learned something.

    Be a man.

    Or he'll burn himself out trying a fight over and over again that he wasn't really prepared for and got himself stuck at.

    Imagine then, the immense satisfaction that will come with completing the challenge.

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

    www.drop.io

    Can you upload your character and save data from your "Documents/Bioware/Dragon Age" folder?

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    I found Rose's Thorn yesterday, but I don't have the cash to drop on it right now, because I just bought the Reavers Vestments for my PC. Where do you get Vashialle?

    e: Also, I think my next big purchase is going to be the Lifegiver ring for Alistair, because that thing is an amazing tank ring.

    Veshialle is bought from Bodahn. It's an axe :)

    Ahhh. Why would I use an axe as a Lethality Assassin/Bard build? I'm pretty happy with my daggers, and will be even more happy once I get a 3X GM Rose's Thorn in her hands.

    Between the Fade, Harvest Festival Ring, Key to the City, and Helm of Honnleath which are all items you never have much reason to ever take off getting the strength requirement to use things like Starfang and/or Veshialle as a Rogue is pretty trivial.

    High base damage and crit chance can add up with the additional +10% crit/backstab damage that Veshialle offers.

    Ahh, see, my Rogue isn't my PC, it's Leliana, so I haven't exactly been feeding her the best gear. That I reserve for my mage PC and Alistair.

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    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    I found Rose's Thorn yesterday, but I don't have the cash to drop on it right now, because I just bought the Reavers Vestments for my PC. Where do you get Vashialle?

    e: Also, I think my next big purchase is going to be the Lifegiver ring for Alistair, because that thing is an amazing tank ring.

    Veshialle is bought from Bodahn. It's an axe :)

    Ahhh. Why would I use an axe as a Lethality Assassin/Bard build? I'm pretty happy with my daggers, and will be even more happy once I get a 3X GM Rose's Thorn in her hands.

    Because axes also backstab just fine.

    They look ridiculous while doing so, but any melee weapon will backstab with a rogue.

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    I found Rose's Thorn yesterday, but I don't have the cash to drop on it right now, because I just bought the Reavers Vestments for my PC. Where do you get Vashialle?

    e: Also, I think my next big purchase is going to be the Lifegiver ring for Alistair, because that thing is an amazing tank ring.

    Veshialle is bought from Bodahn. It's an axe :)

    Ahhh. Why would I use an axe as a Lethality Assassin/Bard build? I'm pretty happy with my daggers, and will be even more happy once I get a 3X GM Rose's Thorn in her hands.

    Between the Fade, Harvest Festival Ring, Key to the City, and Helm of Honnleath which are all items you never have much reason to ever take off getting the strength requirement to use things like Starfang and/or Veshialle as a Rogue is pretty trivial.

    High base damage and crit chance can add up with the additional +10% crit/backstab damage that Veshialle offers.

    Ahh, see, my Rogue isn't my PC, it's Leliana, so I haven't exactly been feeding her the best gear. That I reserve for my mage PC and Alistair.

    Leliana is my baby doll, though. So she gets Wicked Oath, Rose Thorn, Red Jenny Seekerrs, Veshialle, etc.

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    Oh damn it all! I just ran into a random encounter with a few elven archers behind barricade fighting nearly two dozen darkspawn archers and two or three shrieks. I foolishly quicksaved right before I engaged them, so I'm kinda stuck there. The only AoE spell I've got on hand is fucking Earthquake, and that knocks my party down long before it even inconveniences the enemy.

    I can take down a few, but that many archers means my party becomes pincushions no matter what I do. I am so screwed.

    Drop your difficulty down to easy for that fight, just to get through it so you're not stuck.

    Or use this opportunity to permanently better yourself. Make it through this trial and you'll atually have fucking learned something.

    Be a man.

    Or he'll burn himself out trying a fight over and over again that he wasn't really prepared for and got himself stuck at.

    Imagine then, the immense satisfaction that will come with completing the challenge.

    Well, some of us get satisfaction from the complete game experience, not beating our head endlessly against a fight just to "be a man". I suppose this highlights our differences in possible solutions to his problem.

    GnomeTank on
    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Khavall wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    I found Rose's Thorn yesterday, but I don't have the cash to drop on it right now, because I just bought the Reavers Vestments for my PC. Where do you get Vashialle?

    e: Also, I think my next big purchase is going to be the Lifegiver ring for Alistair, because that thing is an amazing tank ring.

    Veshialle is bought from Bodahn. It's an axe :)

    Ahhh. Why would I use an axe as a Lethality Assassin/Bard build? I'm pretty happy with my daggers, and will be even more happy once I get a 3X GM Rose's Thorn in her hands.

    Because axes also backstab just fine.

    They look ridiculous while doing so, but any melee weapon will backstab with a rogue.

    It does seem a bit silly that Axes are the best mainhand for backstabbing, but thems the brakes.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I tend to prefer to spec Leliana towards archery since, because I refuse to be bothered to manually control an NPC Rogue, they're never going to make the most of their actual damage output by getting into proper flanking positions via just tactics.

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    Oh damn it all! I just ran into a random encounter with a few elven archers behind barricade fighting nearly two dozen darkspawn archers and two or three shrieks. I foolishly quicksaved right before I engaged them, so I'm kinda stuck there. The only AoE spell I've got on hand is fucking Earthquake, and that knocks my party down long before it even inconveniences the enemy.

    I can take down a few, but that many archers means my party becomes pincushions no matter what I do. I am so screwed.

    Drop your difficulty down to easy for that fight, just to get through it so you're not stuck.

    Or use this opportunity to permanently better yourself. Make it through this trial and you'll atually have fucking learned something.

    Be a man.

    Or he'll burn himself out trying a fight over and over again that he wasn't really prepared for and got himself stuck at.

    Imagine then, the immense satisfaction that will come with completing the challenge.

    Well, some of us get satisfaction from the complete game experience, not beating our head endlessly against a fight just to "be a man". I suppose this highlights our differences in possible solutions to his problem.

    "Be a man" was a preface to the awesome video I linked.

    However, I admit I can be obsessive. Yes, I do glean great satisfaction from completing a challenge I previously thought impossible.

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    I tend to prefer to spec Leliana towards archery since, because I refuse to be bothered to manually control an NPC Rogue, they're never going to make the most of their actual damage output by getting into proper flanking positions via just tactics.

    Ah, I hand control my entire party in most fights more dangerous than a couple bandits. I guess it's because I really can't get the tactics to work the way I want, in terms of who attacks what, so I just hand control everyone. I keep my PC active most of the time, because he's my healer, but I'll pause-and-queue whenever I want Leliana to reposition, or the whole party to switch targets.

    e: A properly controlled, Assassin spec, Lethality Leliana is a DPS machine. She starts out really slow, but by the point in the game I am (final treaty, just before the Landsmeet, Leliana is level 17), she's a machine.

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    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    I tend to prefer to spec Leliana towards archery since, because I refuse to be bothered to manually control an NPC Rogue, they're never going to make the most of their actual damage output by getting into proper flanking positions via just tactics.

    I constantly pause and queue actions for everyone else, and then manually control Leliana. I never, ever use tactics.


    You can't look at it as "this is you" and "that is them."

    Your whole party is "you." You are, and are in control of, everyone. So set your other characters to auto-"do shit" and control Leliana for max damage output.

    You'll thank yourself when you see her stabbing an enemy and it's
    83!

    79!

    68!

    87!

    with Momentum on.

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009

    "Be a man" was a preface to the awesome video I linked.

    However, I admit I can be obsessive. Yes, I do glean great satisfaction from completing a challenge I previously thought impossible.

    Neither of us is right or wrong, just different goals in playing the game.

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    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    GnomeTank wrote: »

    "Be a man" was a preface to the awesome video I linked.

    However, I admit I can be obsessive. Yes, I do glean great satisfaction from completing a challenge I previously thought impossible.

    Neither of us is right or wrong, just different goals in playing the game.

    Stop being rational!

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    I tend to prefer to spec Leliana towards archery since, because I refuse to be bothered to manually control an NPC Rogue, they're never going to make the most of their actual damage output by getting into proper flanking positions via just tactics.

    I constantly pause and queue actions for everyone else, and then manually control Leliana. I never, ever use tactics.


    You can't look at it as "this is you" and "that is them."

    Your whole party is "you." You are, and are in control of, everyone. So set your other characters to auto-"do shit" and control Leliana for max damage output.

    See it's just that I'm a bit obsessive about managing my time, so I can't be arsed to slow down and perform micro-management in a game that's this easy.

    I mean, if I can beat the game without microing anyone but my main character (save for like, maybe four fights total) as a horribly unoptimal 2Hander using Fighter with everyone else running on Tactics what's the point?

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    What difficult are you playing on? On Easy/Normal, I found what you said to be true. When I felt I had a grasp on the system and jumped to Hard, I found tactics not to cut it, especially against Darkspawn. If I don't self-control against a pack of Darkspawn (especially a pack with an Emissary), bad things tend to happen.

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    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Normal. Hard and Nightmare I'd imagine would be diffferent

    Well, I take that back, you could still probably effortlessly beat the game without ever controlling anything but the main character if the main character was an Arcane Warrior. They're so hilariously broken.

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    My main is a Spirit Healer/Arcane Warrior, but I've never put a point in to the AW stuff. I figured it required a very specialized build. I plan to make a "vault" save before the end of the game, just so I can play with various specs (using the respec potion mod) and I plan to do a proper AW build with him at some point.

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    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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