Thing is, I win that way. Its weird. I guess its because I attack from the back, and so they're disoriented. Nobody escapes the skills I honed in fighting games. I can mash buttons like I hate my mouse.
Once I see someone prep a heavy attack, I run. Absolutely a coward, but I live to fight another day, and am always guaranteed a mid-range spot with around 15 kills.
Okay, if you are tagging them from behind, that's fine then. Just don't do it in a frontal assault. And there's nothing wrong with running when you are in danger, that's what xenos are good at.
I'm a fighting game vet myself, and it does help. But like I said, Pred or Alien, they find themselves dead in short order if I block their light attack spam.
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Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
Oh, I'm horrible at fighting games. Horrible at combos, but great at hitting the buttons fast enough to make up for it. I've been known to wear down controllers pretty badly.
Just did a very, very, very quick game. 3 players all xeno. Nothing I hate more than fighting other xenos, I just suck at it. You can't run, you can't sneak, you've gotta fight. I found I got my few kills by waiting up high and then striking as they both neared death. Double kill each time.
Hmm. The sniper rifle supposedly kills in one shot with headshots. i wonder if anywhere on the alien's big noggin counts?
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Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
I really want to play against more good marines. I found a pretty good one last night but it ended up 1vs1 between us and whilst he made killing him tricky and akward, it still ended 9-0 between us because a lone marine is just too fragile. He could react and hit me, which is what set him apart from most marines but it was never enough. Its bad because Marines can do well, but being so easy to kill in a free for all set up will mean alot of people dont have any faith in them. Im always glad when a decent marine is topping a scoreboard because it will serve to remind all the people doing badly as him that marines are actually helpless, its just that they were playing it wrong.
Still looking forward to team death match. That will change everything.
I still say xenos should avoid straight fights at all costs, predators are stronger than you dont hit them head on, hell dont even pounce at their backs. If they are that far from a wall then they are probably getting closer to a different wall. Also probably getting closer to a fight with someone else. You have speed. Be above that fight. Stab them in the brain.
I enjoy playing as marine quite a bit. In fact I prefer to be the lone marine in a game, and I tend to finish consistently in the top 3. The main thing is to know where the weapons are and to use grenades well. Also, aliens that run up to me when I have a shotgun? Double barrels bitch.
In fact, the #1 cause of my death as a marine is stealth kills, and that's because I didn't watch my back well enough. If they try to take me down head on, they find that I'm a harder target than they expect.
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Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
Get in game! Ive been killed by shotgun maybe twice. Maybe. Definately once but it took him 4 shots so I dont think its very representational of the shotgun experience.
So is this game any good? I was an enormous fan of the originals
It's very different from AVP 1 or 2. Melee combat is slower, but more complex and integral to play for all classes. Predators are more of a melee class with some tools than a shooter class. Even marines need some melee chops if they want to last 2 seconds. Wall running as an alien is a lot different, so that would be a transition as well.
You're usually more engaged with your opponent due to the way that it (very inconsistently) auto-tracks your camera in melee, so the fact that it's FFA typically means you are going to be killed by someone you aren't fighting.
I don't know how I'd rate it against the other two games, but I do like the core of gameplay even if the technical and interface side is less than stellar.
I still say xenos should avoid straight fights at all costs, predators are stronger than you dont hit them head on, hell dont even pounce at their backs. If they are that far from a wall then they are probably getting closer to a different wall. Also probably getting closer to a fight with someone else. You have speed. Be above that fight. Stab them in the brain.
Predators are my preferred target as an alien. Their awareness is typically worse than a marine or another alien's, and once you get them staggering, they're done. The only real danger a predator presents to an alien is the disc or the shoulder cannon, but you can usually avoid those if you're ready for it.
Conversely, I usually find aliens easier to kill as a predator than marines, just because most of them aren't smart enough to charge their tail out of your light attack range or they don't realize that you're going to disc their asses when they float back to charge it.
Get in game! Ive been killed by shotgun maybe twice. Maybe. Definately once but it took him 4 shots so I dont think its very representational of the shotgun experience.
I'm stuck at work for a few more hours, but I can add you. You on 360?
Oh, and if he took 4 shots to kill you I can guarantee he wasn't using altfire. Shotgun needs a bit of finesse. Primary fire to stun/slow, then splatter them with secondary while they recover.
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Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
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edited February 2010
Oh wow.
I just had a really nice and informative session with a dude 1 on 1. Nobody is playing much in australia so it was just him and me for several sessions.
Okay, stuff I figured out:
First I'll relist the standard trio.
Light beats heavy.
Block beats light.
Heavy beats block.
Okay, now for some complication.
1). You can cancel heavy into a block.
So you can psyche out really good people who only block and then hit you when you go heavy. Start a heavy, cancel it into a block, block their attempted light attack counter, then counter them. This is basically fantastic.
2). Face grab is guaranteed if the enemy is very low on health. If they are too high on health, it automatically gets broken. If you, say, block an alien light slash, counter, then heavy slash them, the grab is guaranteed and will end them there. On the other hand, if you knock them down then immediately grab, they will automatically counter it.
So basically the face grab is only a fancy finisher and it's better to just keep hitting them. It's a trophy kill, not a stealth kill from the front.
That is why people are going "oh you hold block" "oh you left click", no you don't have to do anything. If they grab you at low health, you die because you were gonna die anyway from their next hit.
3). Alien heavy attack makes a distinctive "shing!" sound. Like someone drawing a blade. If you hear that, counter them.
4). Predator heavy attack he does a huge growl, it's very distinct. His normal attack doesn't have this growl. So there are two audio cues to watch out for.
Hope this helps people.
That heavy attack into block is pretty much fantastic. The mind games me and that guy had after we figured that out! It was glorious! One time he responded to my heavy with his heavy because he knew I was psyching a block and I got smashed. Countering a fake out with a direct attack!
Oh also this is known already probably but alien wall tail is god. Counts as a heavy attack, will kill anyone in two quick hits.
I'm pretty sure this is known but it's the best way to ambush predators coming around the corner so I thought I'd mention it. Even in a battle, sidling up the wall and getting off a quick wall tail is the best way to fight them if you have to.
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Oh wow.
Oh also this is known already probably but alien wall tail is god. Counts as a heavy attack, will kill anyone in two quick hits.
I'm pretty sure this is known but it's the best way to ambush predators coming around the corner so I thought I'd mention it. Even in a battle, sidling up the wall and getting off a quick wall tail is the best way to fight them if you have to.
Seriously.
That double tail stab is pure death. One humurous instance of it, for me, was when I got a phone call mid-match and hid on the ceiling in a dark corner while I answered it.
I was gabbing away, not even touching my controller when a Predator backed around the corner into my hiding spot and stood there beneath me, presumably waiting in ambush for someone else. So I hit him once with my tail and he ran away, did a loop, and came right back, so I killed him. Didn't even know what hit him. Literally.
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edited February 2010
Yeah, just now when i figured out this melee stuff we went back to normal games. I was having trouble versus his very alert marine relying on his motion tracker....
So I broke the lights in a place, sidled up the wall and stood still near the corner.
Eventually he comes around the corner and two tail stabs and he's down.
It was great watching him start walking towards me through the wall then stop as if thinking "Dammit, should I go find him or?"
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That reminds me of another question I had: does the motion tracker actually track, you know, motion?
If you stop moving, will it not track you?
Don't move, don't get tracked. It works as advertised.
clodhopper, are you on 360?
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Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
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edited February 2010
Okay, I grabbed the demo for PC. Got matched to some people, got into a game... and felt like it was at about 500 ping. My gun was not visible, only the muzzle flash. And I could not walk - I could only move by jumping, and each jump ended with a spark inducing thunk. Was the host fucking with settings or is the game just not liking my PC?
Predators are my preferred target as an alien. Their awareness is typically worse than a marine or another alien's, and once you get them staggering, they're done. The only real danger a predator presents to an alien is the disc or the shoulder cannon, but you can usually avoid those if you're ready for it.
Conversely, I usually find aliens easier to kill as a predator than marines, just because most of them aren't smart enough to charge their tail out of your light attack range or they don't realize that you're going to disc their asses when they float back to charge it.
Predators who know how to use their focus mode can take you of the walls and roof. In most games thats how I get most of my kills just hunting aliens down and smacking them of the roof. Once they are nocked of I imediatly go into a large atack then one more small and their done. Or if their at range on a roof stalking some one/siting there trying to be sneaky a disk to the face or a harpoon usually does the job.
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Predators are my preferred target as an alien. Their awareness is typically worse than a marine or another alien's, and once you get them staggering, they're done. The only real danger a predator presents to an alien is the disc or the shoulder cannon, but you can usually avoid those if you're ready for it.
Conversely, I usually find aliens easier to kill as a predator than marines, just because most of them aren't smart enough to charge their tail out of your light attack range or they don't realize that you're going to disc their asses when they float back to charge it.
Predators who know how to use their focus mode can take you of the walls and roof. In most games thats how I get most of my kills just hunting aliens down and smacking them of the roof. Once they are nocked of I imediatly go into a large atack then one more small and their done. Or if their at range on a roof stalking some one/siting there trying to be sneaky a disk to the face or a harpoon usually does the job.
You can easily dodge the predator leap attack if you are at a height, it's pretty anemic. All they need is one tail and it's over for you. All you need is one hit and it's over for them. Aliens on the wall are basically balanced versus predators. It's whoever reacts first.
Most easy kills like that I bet are people being disorientated and missing with their tail attack. Or just not seeing you at all in which case you know, same goes the other way.
Plus if it's a double strike, both are stunned, so it's a null game.
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preordered this today for the skins mostly... getting pretty pumped.
Yeah.
Seriously thinking of how to pay for this. Am probably going to have to wait a few days after it comes out though, don't think I'll have enough saved by the time it does.
Putting aside call of pripyat for this thing.
I don't buy many games new.
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If both are stuned means the alien is on the ground giving the pred the upper hand as he has more health to use and less chance to be nocked over with the size thing. (has that been confirmed ive definatly been nocked over as pred)
Well shit. Looks like I'm not getting the hunter edition unless I decide to let best buy's slow-ass shipping get it to me a day or two late, which I just don't think is an option. Gamestop and amazon stopped taking pre-orders.
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If both are stuned means the alien is on the ground giving the pred the upper hand as he has more health to use and less chance to be nocked over with the size thing. (has that been confirmed ive definatly been nocked over as pred)
Tail is a heavy attack, whereas the alien has been hit with a light attack. The health isn't that different.
Plus a good alien would run away.
I'm not a very good alien I'm suicidal so I'd stay and fight tho. And then you could kill me. But that's beside the point, since I'm a bad alien. And as a predator you are death incarnate. So I gotta take what you say with a pinch of salt mate. Tone it down a little, get back to the average, if you get me. :P
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Predators are my preferred target as an alien. Their awareness is typically worse than a marine or another alien's, and once you get them staggering, they're done. The only real danger a predator presents to an alien is the disc or the shoulder cannon, but you can usually avoid those if you're ready for it.
Conversely, I usually find aliens easier to kill as a predator than marines, just because most of them aren't smart enough to charge their tail out of your light attack range or they don't realize that you're going to disc their asses when they float back to charge it.
Predators who know how to use their focus mode can take you of the walls and roof. In most games thats how I get most of my kills just hunting aliens down and smacking them of the roof. Once they are nocked of I imediatly go into a large atack then one more small and their done.
I'm actually referring to a ground fight. I only really use ceiling/wall tail toward the beginning of a fight. If I've swung and missed one or two times, I either switch to the floor to engage or I flee. ML also has a point with the accuracy of pouncing, but I don't know if that's lag-based or something I can depend on going forward.
Or if their at range on a roof stalking some one/siting there trying to be sneaky a disk to the face or a harpoon usually does the job.
This is more of an ambush potential/awareness issue than a straight up combat potential issue. I do think I'd give it to aliens here though as well just because predators only see in straight line of sight. The most easily ambush class by far, ironically enough. Maybe it makes sense if you figure in their arrogance though. Anyway.
If both are stuned means the alien is on the ground giving the pred the upper hand as he has more health to use and less chance to be nocked over with the size thing. (has that been confirmed ive definatly been nocked over as pred)
Tail is a heavy attack, whereas the alien has been hit with a light attack. The health isn't that different.
Plus a good alien would run away.
I'm not a very good alien I'm suicidal so I'd stay and fight tho. And then you could kill me. But that's beside the point, since I'm a bad alien. And as a predator you are death incarnate. So I gotta take what you say with a pinch of salt mate. Tone it down a little, get back to the average, if you get me. :P
Well the prob is I cant have a fair fight with you as your ping is silly but yeh I gues once the game comes out and some people get used to playing alien my view might (should) change as it stands I only realy have to pay attention to Fernando the fantasic guitar (clodhopper) and Mom but Fernando wont enter in a fisty cuffs match with me any more so geting an accurate read on it is hard.
Speaking of fernando (and going off topic) i cant thelp thinking of:
Am I crazy or does the disc use a targeting laser? I could swear it didn't, but a pred just tried to dice me with one and a laser swooped by. At this point, I'm pretty sure I'm never, ever, ever going to attack a pred head on again. They've gotten better at melee, it seems.
Could I possibly get in on that Steam group action? Hosts ending matches and unfilled groups is getting old.
Am I crazy or does the disc use a targeting laser? I could swear it didn't, but a pred just tried to dice me with one and a laser swooped by. At this point, I'm pretty sure I'm never, ever, ever going to attack a pred head on again. They've gotten better at melee, it seems.
Could I possibly get in on that Steam group action? Hosts ending matches and unfilled groups is getting old.
It has a laser. The disc kinda bounces in the direction of where you've got the laser it seems, but it's hard for me to get a ton of mileage out of that.
Bit late on this but if the pred lands the leap and knocks you off the ceiling then you have to fight him hand to hand cause he can leap fast enough to catch you running (assuming there isnt a hole near by), but because the tail hit landed the pred doesnt have as much of a health advantage as he normally does so the fight is on.
I still lose though because I cant to hand to hand. I am at one with the wall and when we are together we are unhuntable
The wall is a forgiving god. All should love the wall.
(I am PC)
Now we know gin is an ABBA fan. All those trophey kills seem much more worthwhile now.
I've been able to fight off a pred that knocked me off the ceiling sometimes, but mostly it drops me to the ground with my back to the pred so I get fucked.
If a pred or xeno knocks you from the wall, best bet is to run at them and beyond. The advantage works two ways:
1. They probably expect you to scamper off, so they're focused on the direction you fell. They think you'll go that way.
2. You'll zoom right past 'em at full speed, and they won't be able to do a 180 fast enough to catch up. Thats assuming you survive that first light attack they're bound to land, or the heavy attack doesn't hit you from across the map. I still don't know what it is, but heavy attacks never miss, as long as you're in range when its started.
Wow, just had another Pred accuse me of disc whoring. This guy barely cloaked, didn't dodge and preferred to run around melee-ing.
I don't know about you, but I know that if a pred throws the disc and it misses, he's now vulnerable for 3-5 seconds. He can't use another weapon. he can only run, or melee. A smart guy should know how to handle this situation.
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Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
Wow, just had another Pred accuse me of disc whoring. This guy barely cloaked, didn't dodge and preferred to run around melee-ing.
I don't know about you, but I know that if a pred throws the disc and it misses, he's now vulnerable for 3-5 seconds. He can't use another weapon. he can only run, or melee. A smart guy should know how to handle this situation.
Any class played correctly should make you feel like a huge douche about 95% of the time.
Man, how do you get away from people who mash heavy attack. If they hit you once its over since you're stunned long enough to be hit again before you can attack or run
I have absolutely no idea how to play as the Predator. Does anyone have suggestions? I've heard of you all using a staff and a disc attack, but I'm not sure where you get those from or how you use them. Sorry for the stupid question, but it's the one character I hate using.
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Okay, I grabbed the demo for PC. Got matched to some people, got into a game... and felt like it was at about 500 ping. My gun was not visible, only the muzzle flash. And I could not walk - I could only move by jumping, and each jump ended with a spark inducing thunk. Was the host fucking with settings or is the game just not liking my PC?
No one has any insight? I want to know if I'll be doomed to playing this game with cement shoes.
Okay, I grabbed the demo for PC. Got matched to some people, got into a game... and felt like it was at about 500 ping. My gun was not visible, only the muzzle flash. And I could not walk - I could only move by jumping, and each jump ended with a spark inducing thunk. Was the host fucking with settings or is the game just not liking my PC?
No one has any insight? I want to know if I'll be doomed to playing this game with cement shoes.
They've stated the demo uses matchmaking but the full game will have dedicated servers, if that helps.
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Once I see someone prep a heavy attack, I run. Absolutely a coward, but I live to fight another day, and am always guaranteed a mid-range spot with around 15 kills.
I'm a fighting game vet myself, and it does help. But like I said, Pred or Alien, they find themselves dead in short order if I block their light attack spam.
Just did a very, very, very quick game. 3 players all xeno. Nothing I hate more than fighting other xenos, I just suck at it. You can't run, you can't sneak, you've gotta fight. I found I got my few kills by waiting up high and then striking as they both neared death. Double kill each time.
Still looking forward to team death match. That will change everything.
I still say xenos should avoid straight fights at all costs, predators are stronger than you dont hit them head on, hell dont even pounce at their backs. If they are that far from a wall then they are probably getting closer to a different wall. Also probably getting closer to a fight with someone else. You have speed. Be above that fight. Stab them in the brain.
Buckle up!
In fact, the #1 cause of my death as a marine is stealth kills, and that's because I didn't watch my back well enough. If they try to take me down head on, they find that I'm a harder target than they expect.
Buckle up!
It's very different from AVP 1 or 2. Melee combat is slower, but more complex and integral to play for all classes. Predators are more of a melee class with some tools than a shooter class. Even marines need some melee chops if they want to last 2 seconds. Wall running as an alien is a lot different, so that would be a transition as well.
You're usually more engaged with your opponent due to the way that it (very inconsistently) auto-tracks your camera in melee, so the fact that it's FFA typically means you are going to be killed by someone you aren't fighting.
I don't know how I'd rate it against the other two games, but I do like the core of gameplay even if the technical and interface side is less than stellar.
Predators are my preferred target as an alien. Their awareness is typically worse than a marine or another alien's, and once you get them staggering, they're done. The only real danger a predator presents to an alien is the disc or the shoulder cannon, but you can usually avoid those if you're ready for it.
Conversely, I usually find aliens easier to kill as a predator than marines, just because most of them aren't smart enough to charge their tail out of your light attack range or they don't realize that you're going to disc their asses when they float back to charge it.
I'm stuck at work for a few more hours, but I can add you. You on 360?
Oh, and if he took 4 shots to kill you I can guarantee he wasn't using altfire. Shotgun needs a bit of finesse. Primary fire to stun/slow, then splatter them with secondary while they recover.
I just had a really nice and informative session with a dude 1 on 1. Nobody is playing much in australia so it was just him and me for several sessions.
Okay, stuff I figured out:
First I'll relist the standard trio.
Light beats heavy.
Block beats light.
Heavy beats block.
Okay, now for some complication.
1). You can cancel heavy into a block.
So you can psyche out really good people who only block and then hit you when you go heavy. Start a heavy, cancel it into a block, block their attempted light attack counter, then counter them. This is basically fantastic.
2). Face grab is guaranteed if the enemy is very low on health. If they are too high on health, it automatically gets broken. If you, say, block an alien light slash, counter, then heavy slash them, the grab is guaranteed and will end them there. On the other hand, if you knock them down then immediately grab, they will automatically counter it.
So basically the face grab is only a fancy finisher and it's better to just keep hitting them. It's a trophy kill, not a stealth kill from the front.
That is why people are going "oh you hold block" "oh you left click", no you don't have to do anything. If they grab you at low health, you die because you were gonna die anyway from their next hit.
3). Alien heavy attack makes a distinctive "shing!" sound. Like someone drawing a blade. If you hear that, counter them.
4). Predator heavy attack he does a huge growl, it's very distinct. His normal attack doesn't have this growl. So there are two audio cues to watch out for.
Hope this helps people.
That heavy attack into block is pretty much fantastic. The mind games me and that guy had after we figured that out! It was glorious! One time he responded to my heavy with his heavy because he knew I was psyching a block and I got smashed. Countering a fake out with a direct attack!
Oh also this is known already probably but alien wall tail is god. Counts as a heavy attack, will kill anyone in two quick hits.
I'm pretty sure this is known but it's the best way to ambush predators coming around the corner so I thought I'd mention it. Even in a battle, sidling up the wall and getting off a quick wall tail is the best way to fight them if you have to.
Seriously.
That double tail stab is pure death. One humurous instance of it, for me, was when I got a phone call mid-match and hid on the ceiling in a dark corner while I answered it.
I was gabbing away, not even touching my controller when a Predator backed around the corner into my hiding spot and stood there beneath me, presumably waiting in ambush for someone else. So I hit him once with my tail and he ran away, did a loop, and came right back, so I killed him. Didn't even know what hit him. Literally.
So I broke the lights in a place, sidled up the wall and stood still near the corner.
Eventually he comes around the corner and two tail stabs and he's down.
It was great watching him start walking towards me through the wall then stop as if thinking "Dammit, should I go find him or?"
If you stop moving, will it not track you?
Don't move, don't get tracked. It works as advertised.
clodhopper, are you on 360?
Predators who know how to use their focus mode can take you of the walls and roof. In most games thats how I get most of my kills just hunting aliens down and smacking them of the roof. Once they are nocked of I imediatly go into a large atack then one more small and their done. Or if their at range on a roof stalking some one/siting there trying to be sneaky a disk to the face or a harpoon usually does the job.
You can easily dodge the predator leap attack if you are at a height, it's pretty anemic. All they need is one tail and it's over for you. All you need is one hit and it's over for them. Aliens on the wall are basically balanced versus predators. It's whoever reacts first.
Most easy kills like that I bet are people being disorientated and missing with their tail attack. Or just not seeing you at all in which case you know, same goes the other way.
Plus if it's a double strike, both are stunned, so it's a null game.
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Yeah.
Seriously thinking of how to pay for this. Am probably going to have to wait a few days after it comes out though, don't think I'll have enough saved by the time it does.
Putting aside call of pripyat for this thing.
I don't buy many games new.
Tail is a heavy attack, whereas the alien has been hit with a light attack. The health isn't that different.
Plus a good alien would run away.
I'm not a very good alien I'm suicidal so I'd stay and fight tho. And then you could kill me. But that's beside the point, since I'm a bad alien. And as a predator you are death incarnate. So I gotta take what you say with a pinch of salt mate. Tone it down a little, get back to the average, if you get me. :P
I'm actually referring to a ground fight. I only really use ceiling/wall tail toward the beginning of a fight. If I've swung and missed one or two times, I either switch to the floor to engage or I flee. ML also has a point with the accuracy of pouncing, but I don't know if that's lag-based or something I can depend on going forward.
This is more of an ambush potential/awareness issue than a straight up combat potential issue. I do think I'd give it to aliens here though as well just because predators only see in straight line of sight. The most easily ambush class by far, ironically enough. Maybe it makes sense if you figure in their arrogance though. Anyway.
Well the prob is I cant have a fair fight with you as your ping is silly but yeh I gues once the game comes out and some people get used to playing alien my view might (should) change as it stands I only realy have to pay attention to Fernando the fantasic guitar (clodhopper) and Mom but Fernando wont enter in a fisty cuffs match with me any more so geting an accurate read on it is hard.
Speaking of fernando (and going off topic) i cant thelp thinking of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ohr4P8E_io
Could I possibly get in on that Steam group action? Hosts ending matches and unfilled groups is getting old.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Sarkryg
It has a laser. The disc kinda bounces in the direction of where you've got the laser it seems, but it's hard for me to get a ton of mileage out of that.
I still lose though because I cant to hand to hand. I am at one with the wall and when we are together we are unhuntable
The wall is a forgiving god. All should love the wall.
(I am PC)
Now we know gin is an ABBA fan. All those trophey kills seem much more worthwhile now.
Buckle up!
1. They probably expect you to scamper off, so they're focused on the direction you fell. They think you'll go that way.
2. You'll zoom right past 'em at full speed, and they won't be able to do a 180 fast enough to catch up. Thats assuming you survive that first light attack they're bound to land, or the heavy attack doesn't hit you from across the map. I still don't know what it is, but heavy attacks never miss, as long as you're in range when its started.
I don't know about you, but I know that if a pred throws the disc and it misses, he's now vulnerable for 3-5 seconds. He can't use another weapon. he can only run, or melee. A smart guy should know how to handle this situation.
Any class played correctly should make you feel like a huge douche about 95% of the time.
No one has any insight? I want to know if I'll be doomed to playing this game with cement shoes.
They've stated the demo uses matchmaking but the full game will have dedicated servers, if that helps.