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The Legend of Zelda

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  • apotheosapotheos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2010
    Opium wrote: »
    Further evidence:

    If this game comes out in 2011, which seems pretty likely, exactly as many years will have passed between its release and MM as between The Mask and Son of the Mask.

    This can't just be a coincidink anymore.

    If I could stab you in the face right now, I would.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Opium wrote: »
    Further evidence:

    If this game comes out in 2011, which seems pretty likely, exactly as many years will have passed between its release and MM as between The Mask and Son of the Mask.

    This can't just be a coincidink anymore.

    You are a silly goose.

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  • SnowblindvictimSnowblindvictim Flying casual Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
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    ?

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  • SipexSipex Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    That's crazy.

    Also, we learn a very interesting lesson today, whether it's true in this case or not is irrelevant.

    Sometimes your idols will like things you absolutely hate. Surprise! Famous people are still just people too!

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  • THEPAIN73THEPAIN73 Shiny. Real shiny.Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I see it.

    And can't unsee it.

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  • OpiumOpium regular
    edited January 2010
    Sipex wrote: »
    That's crazy.

    Also, we learn a very interesting lesson today, whether it's true in this case or not is irrelevant.

    Sometimes your idols will like things you absolutely hate. Surprise! Famous people are still just people too!
    I'm writing Aonuma/Carrey slashfic as we speak.

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  • FremFrem Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Frem wrote: »
    Also, not the master sword? How come the master sword is pictured in the promo drawing, then? Aside from early concept art.

    Where? The whole big thing about the artwork is that there is no sword...

    Oh, right. I guess that comparison was like two threads ago. The girl looks a lot like the master sword.
    Flippy_D wrote: »
    Zing.

    Also, I initially thought the whole 'she's the Master Sword' thing was pretty dumb and reading too much into his empty palm, but uh..

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    Saying blade = head is dumb, but details like the gold lines and criss-cross leggings/hilt go a long way to raise my confidence in such theories.

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  • Alfred J. KwakAlfred J. Kwak is it because you were insulted when I insulted your hair?Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I'd be amazed if she wasn't.

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  • VrayVray Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Maybe this one will explain why there's no Master Sword in LoZ/AoL.

    Speculations ho.

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  • KorKor Known to detonate from time to time Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    It's the handle/stockings that does it for me.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Vray wrote: »
    Maybe this one will explain why there's no Master Sword in LoZ/AoL.

    Speculations ho.

    Most people place those in the Wind Waker timeline where the sword is DOA.

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  • TerrendosTerrendos Decorative Monocle Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I think you mean "IGH" Riptor. That is to say, "In Ganon's Head."

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  • YggiDeeYggiDee The World Ends With You Shill Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    When do we get the Zelda game where retrieving the Master Sword from its stone 'pedestal' actually pulls it from Ganon, thus reawakening him as the undead lich-king of evil?

    Because I want to play that.

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  • Bad AspBad Asp Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    YggiDee wrote: »
    When do we get the Zelda game where retrieving the Master Sword from its stone 'pedestal' actually pulls it from Ganon, thus reawakening him as the undead lich-king of evil?

    Because I want to play that.

    That might actually happen one day... probably sometime this decade if we're lucky...

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  • VALVEjunkieVALVEjunkie Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Bad Asp wrote: »
    YggiDee wrote: »
    When do we get the Zelda game where retrieving the Master Sword from its stone 'pedestal' actually pulls it from Ganon, thus reawakening him as the undead lich-king of evil?

    Because I want to play that.

    That might actually happen one day... probably sometime this decade if we're lucky...

    i was honestly suprised when this didnt happen in PH

    would have been so cool

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  • Dodge AspenDodge Aspen Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Quick Spirit Tracks Question: Anyone know where I can snag a Regal Ring? It's all I need to finish my Gold Train, and I've been playing games and sending postcard for a week now, and it's just not showing up.

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  • Bad AspBad Asp Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Quick Spirit Tracks Question: Anyone know where I can snag a Regal Ring? It's all I need to finish my Gold Train, and I've been playing games and sending postcard for a week now, and it's just not showing up.

    I can think of a few ways to get one:
    You can get one by completing the Lost at Sea Station.

    I think you can also get one by continually buying items from Beedle's store until you get the highest level membership.

    Does that help?

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Terrendos wrote: »
    I think you mean "IGH" Riptor. That is to say, "In Ganon's Head."

    Touche

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  • Dodge AspenDodge Aspen Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Bad Asp wrote: »
    Quick Spirit Tracks Question: Anyone know where I can snag a Regal Ring? It's all I need to finish my Gold Train, and I've been playing games and sending postcard for a week now, and it's just not showing up.

    I can think of a few ways to get one:
    You can get one by completing the Lost at Sea Station.

    I think you can also get one by continually buying items from Beedle's store until you get the highest level membership.

    Does that help?

    It does. I haven't yet done the lost at sea mission, and I'm damn close to the highest level at Beedles. Thanks!

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  • JauntyJaunty Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I haven't played a zelda since the NES but I feel like it's too late to revisit the classic 64 ones. Wind Waker looks kind of nice, TP looks pretty uninteresting, but I'm altogether uneducated on this. Where to begin?

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  • LorkLork Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Jaunty wrote: »
    I haven't played a zelda since the NES but I feel like it's too late to revisit the classic 64 ones. Wind Waker looks kind of nice, TP looks pretty uninteresting, but I'm altogether uneducated on this. Where to begin?
    It's never too late.

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  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Get one of the Ocarina of Time re-releases as they run at 640x480 and support progressive scan and play like it's 1998.

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  • THEPAIN73THEPAIN73 Shiny. Real shiny.Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Just started playing Link's Awakening again.

    I started at 7:30 this morning and I am on my way to the 6th Temple.

    I fuckin love this game.

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  • OpiumOpium regular
    edited January 2010
    Chen wrote: »
    Get one of the Ocarina of Time re-releases as they run at 640x480 and support progressive scan and play like it's 1998.

    Shouldn't he start with ALTTP first?

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  • carmofincarmofin Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Jaunty wrote: »
    I haven't played a zelda since the NES but I feel like it's too late to revisit the classic 64 ones. Wind Waker looks kind of nice, TP looks pretty uninteresting, but I'm altogether uneducated on this. Where to begin?

    you cant go wrong with either wind waker or TP. personally, i would recommend TP because the Wii controls make it a very unique experience and it also offers a lot more content.
    of course wind waker is full of magic, so it really isnt an easy choice... i would go for the one thats more easily available to you.
    and yeah, dont listen to the nostalgia drunkards. the N64 games arent a good place to start with anymore. while OoT is arguably redundant after playing TP imo, definately make sure to catch up on majora's mask later, since nothing like it has ever been done again.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Opium wrote: »
    Chen wrote: »
    Get one of the Ocarina of Time re-releases as they run at 640x480 and support progressive scan and play like it's 1998.

    Shouldn't he start with ALTTP first?

    Ocarina of time is the first Zelda no matter what your view of the timeline insanity is. That's not even debatable. It also sets up the major players better than any of the games before or after excluding maybe wind waker

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  • LorkLork Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    If you absolutely must play the modern Zeldas, don't start with Wind Waker, as it's an incredibly tedious game that would probably give you the wrong idea about the Zelda series. TP is good as long as you focus on the dungeons and ignore the bland, uninspired overworld.

    Of course, if you'd like to play a game that is genuinely great in all respects other than graphical power, Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask are available on Virtual Console.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Ignore most of the previous people, by all means.
    OOT has aged very poorly compared to most other titles in the franchise. MM is genuinely interesting, but doesn't represent the series well as a whole.
    Start with TP. It's the most polished game they've done, and it sums up everything the series is good at better than any other game. People putting it below OOT are inevitably blinded by nostalgia.

    WW's certainly worth a play, but it's a flawed game. Don't start there.
    Also give Minish Cap a shot, if you can find it.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Ignore everyone else, play the Zelda I like best.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    If you want a playlist
    I tend to use this order when I'm on a zelda kick

    OoT
    Majora's mask
    Link's awakening
    A link to the past
    The Legend of Zelda
    Wind Waker
    Twilight princess

    Then I roll a 20 sided die to see which of the stragglers I play next

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  • mntorankusumntorankusu I'm not sure how to use this thing.... Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    "Ocarina of Time has aged poorly" is the most nonsensical statement I've ever heard.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    "Ocarina of Time has aged poorly" is the most nonsensical statement I've ever heard.

    This might be the most nonsensical statement I've ever heard.

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  • LorkLork Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    "Ocarina of Time has aged poorly" is the most nonsensical statement I've ever heard.
    I see the nostalgia argument thrown around a lot, without any justification or explanation, of course. It reminds me of the Wind Waker apologists who claim that everybody who doesn't like it is from the "LOL CELDA" crowd.

    I like modern games if they are better than their predecessors. WW and TP are not. It's no surprise considering what they have to live up to, though.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Lork wrote: »
    "Ocarina of Time has aged poorly" is the most nonsensical statement I've ever heard.
    I see the nostalgia argument thrown around a lot, without any justification or explanation, of course.
    The translation and ambience are often dangerously close to twee, the artstyle is poor, the dungeons are blocky and artificial and the general design and pace of the thing badly lacking compared to most modern games.
    Mind you, the same goes for a lot of 3D from the era. I've always been amaged by how well Mario 64 and Majora's Mask weathered it.

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  • LorkLork Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Xagarath wrote: »
    Lork wrote: »
    "Ocarina of Time has aged poorly" is the most nonsensical statement I've ever heard.
    I see the nostalgia argument thrown around a lot, without any justification or explanation, of course.
    The translation and ambience are often dangerously close to twee, the artstyle is poor, the dungeons are blocky and artificial and the general design and pace of the thing badly lacking compared to most modern games.
    Mind you, the same goes for a lot of 3D from the era. I've always been amaged by how well Mario 64 and Majora's Mask weathered it.
    See, that would make a lot more sense if Twilight Princess didn't have vastly inferior pacing compared to Ocarina. We're talking about a game that takes 2+ hours before it lets you have fun, vs a game that gets you up and running in about 15 minutes.

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  • Two Headed BoyTwo Headed Boy Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Lork wrote: »
    See, that would make a lot more sense if Twilight Princess didn't have vastly inferior pacing compared to Ocarina. We're talking about a game that takes 2+ hours before it lets you have fun, vs a game that gets you up and running in about 15 minutes.

    Bam, facts.

    I guess Ocarina wouldn't age well if somebody absolutely needs state-of-the-art visuals, but the actual gameplay and level design is absolutely some of the greatest in games.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Xagarath wrote: »
    Lork wrote: »
    "Ocarina of Time has aged poorly" is the most nonsensical statement I've ever heard.
    I see the nostalgia argument thrown around a lot, without any justification or explanation, of course.
    The translation and ambience are often dangerously close to twee, the artstyle is poor, the dungeons are blocky and artificial and the general design and pace of the thing badly lacking compared to most modern games.
    Mind you, the same goes for a lot of 3D from the era. I've always been amaged by how well Mario 64 and Majora's Mask weathered it.

    Majora's mask had the advantage of only having 4 dungeons which meant they could be complicated and massive.

    Mario 64 has not aged well. If you think OoT has aged poorly I fail to see how the game that defined like ten years worth of platformers with no innovation hasn't.

    OoT is slow but the fact is it's the skeleton for all 3D Zeldas. I'd play it first so you know the basics.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Lork wrote: »
    Xagarath wrote: »
    Lork wrote: »
    "Ocarina of Time has aged poorly" is the most nonsensical statement I've ever heard.
    I see the nostalgia argument thrown around a lot, without any justification or explanation, of course.
    The translation and ambience are often dangerously close to twee, the artstyle is poor, the dungeons are blocky and artificial and the general design and pace of the thing badly lacking compared to most modern games.
    Mind you, the same goes for a lot of 3D from the era. I've always been amaged by how well Mario 64 and Majora's Mask weathered it.
    See, that would make a lot more sense if Twilight Princess didn't have vastly inferior pacing compared to Ocarina. We're talking about a game that takes 2+ hours before it lets you have fun, vs a game that gets you up and running in about 15 minutes.

    Rot.
    Twilight princess has poor pacing only in the first two hours. The rest of the thing is much better put together than OOT.

    Mario 64 has aged better than OOT due to simpler controls, meaning the primitive 3D of the time got in the way less.

    For reference: I played OOT before TP or WW, not after.

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  • LorkLork Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Xagarath wrote: »
    Lork wrote: »
    Xagarath wrote: »
    Lork wrote: »
    "Ocarina of Time has aged poorly" is the most nonsensical statement I've ever heard.
    I see the nostalgia argument thrown around a lot, without any justification or explanation, of course.
    The translation and ambience are often dangerously close to twee, the artstyle is poor, the dungeons are blocky and artificial and the general design and pace of the thing badly lacking compared to most modern games.
    Mind you, the same goes for a lot of 3D from the era. I've always been amaged by how well Mario 64 and Majora's Mask weathered it.
    See, that would make a lot more sense if Twilight Princess didn't have vastly inferior pacing compared to Ocarina. We're talking about a game that takes 2+ hours before it lets you have fun, vs a game that gets you up and running in about 15 minutes.

    Rot.
    Twilight princess has poor pacing only in the first two hours. The rest of the thing is much better put together than OOT.

    Mario 64 has aged better than OOT due to simpler controls, meaning the primitive 3D of the time got in the way less.

    For reference: I played OOT before TP or WW, not after.
    Nope. The twilight portions of the game dragged like a broken muffler. The controls have barely changed at all, and they've aged just as much in TP as they have in OOT (which is to say, not much, because they were great to begin with).

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  • KastanjKastanj __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2010
    Finding those tears was something you could do once, maybe. Doing it thrice felt like playing WoW except you weren't even rewarded with a biscuit.

    We want to explore spontaneously and be rewarded for that. In OoT, you could mess around in the Lost Woods before heading for Hyrule Castle if that was your sort of thing. More that.

    Other games may stoop to reward gamers with cutscene morsels and "story", but I think Zelda should be about seeing new things as often as possible, and interacting with the world.

    OoT and MM felt mysterious. TP felt crowded and full of fetch quests.

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