Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
If capcom was gonna buy fighting game rights I'd rather they snatch up the SF:EX characters and square away what ever the Rival Schools issue is first.
Skullomania D.Dark and Pullum/Garuda in SSF4T YES PLEASE.
there is absolutely nothing similar between makoto and sakura, besides the fact that they both have short hair and are girls.
They are more similar thematically than game play wise.
they have no gameplay similarities and i don't see any real thematic similarity
makoto is a confident karate master whose style and attitude are entirely different from sakura's
it's nothing like say, alex and abel, who have similar names, similar gameplay styles (grappler with half circle throws) and a vague physical similarity (mostly size or build)
They don't need a bunch of impostor characters clogging up their ranks.
Only the Art of Fighting Characters were really clones, though, and even then they were only total ripoffs in the early games and by 2000 or so had differentiated significally.
There's no Capcom terry equivalent, no capcom Mai equivalent, Kyo and Iori are loosely based on Shotos but just playing them in CVS2 you can see how different they are (and Kyo is really Fei + Shoto), and beyond Kyo and Iori and the AOF guys most of the rest of the King of Fighters characters are just outer space compared to street fighter.
FuriousJodo v. Bison(Riki-Oh) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJVCYBFmoZw
The Bison match isn't really worth watching, it's pretty ugly. I really need to work on that match-up.
There are a few other match videos up as well, AfroCole playing Dhalsim in a few of them.
If capcom was gonna buy fighting game rights I'd rather they snatch up the SF:EX characters and square away what ever the Rival Schools issue is first.
Skullomania D.Dark and Pullum/Garuda in SSF4T YES PLEASE.
Just give me Batsu, Kyosuke, and the insanely broken-but-fixed-for-a-new-game Hyo.
And change Hyo's outfit from that of a homosexual Queen's Guard.
That rufus/fuerte match was sweet. I dunno if you know the announcers, but if you do, tell them to either put your real names in the description or start referring to you guys as your handles. They started talking about "Danny" or something and it was confusing as hell.
Ugh ugh ugh fuck Makoto. I mean she's a good character but god I hate fighting her. So MUCH stun. Besides have Makoto and Sakura in the same game seems redundant to me. Then again so does having Dudley and Boxer in the same game.
I'd much rather see Alex show up, he's supposed to be the main character of SF3, maybe they can actually develop him some in this game.
Agreed hard. I don't dislike Makoto, but to me she's nothing more than a butch Sakura. Having both is redundant.
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Nice Fuerte tricks, especially that EX Run --> Fierce counter on Bison. Major what the hell just happened moment. You seem to
Yeah, I messed it up. You can ex-run through it and start a loop and I just psyched myself out because I was afraid of the damage so I went for splash instead. You can do the same thing on Akuma's roundhouse which generally beats the crap out of Fuerte. It's super risky but if I can get it down it REALLY can turn the tide of things.
Ugh ugh ugh fuck Makoto. I mean she's a good character but god I hate fighting her. So MUCH stun. Besides have Makoto and Sakura in the same game seems redundant to me. Then again so does having Dudley and Boxer in the same game.
I'd much rather see Alex show up, he's supposed to be the main character of SF3, maybe they can actually develop him some in this game.
Agreed hard. I don't dislike Makoto, but to me she's nothing more than a butch Sakura. Having both is redundant.
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None of you have played makoto before huh.
One of her special moves is "get angry."
Not "get angry then have a cutscene where you jump in the air and shoot a gigantic fireball" or "get angry and then the screen flashes black and you go 'rawr I like tacos' and hit some poor guy 27 times" or "get angry and do a piledriver then touch your opponent's buttocks in an innappropriate manner," she just gets angry.
Then, she punches you.
(On a more serious note, Sakura is a sort of weird combo-heavy shoto character and Makoto is a mixed poke / grapple character with a focus on scary psychic rushdown tactics. Aside from not being similar in theme or personality or appearance, they also play dramatically differently).
I need some Ken practice, I can tear people up if they don't know how to always guard against mk --> ex tatsu, but I think I overuse that trick and have trouble with people who know to block low against Ken. What are some good tricks to throw into a Ken strategy aside from his big, scary Tatsu combos and maybe a kara throw or two?
Ugh ugh ugh fuck Makoto. I mean she's a good character but god I hate fighting her. So MUCH stun. Besides have Makoto and Sakura in the same game seems redundant to me. Then again so does having Dudley and Boxer in the same game.
I'd much rather see Alex show up, he's supposed to be the main character of SF3, maybe they can actually develop him some in this game.
Agreed hard. I don't dislike Makoto, but to me she's nothing more than a butch Sakura. Having both is redundant.
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None of you have played makoto before huh.
One of her special moves is "get angry."
Not "get angry then have a cutscene where you jump in the air and shoot a gigantic fireball" or "get angry and then the screen flashes black and you go 'rawr I like tacos' and hit some poor guy 27 times" or "get angry and do a piledriver then touch your opponent's buttocks in an innappropriate manner," she just gets angry.
Then, she punches you.
(On a more serious note, Sakura is a sort of weird combo-heavy shoto character and Makoto is a mixed poke / grapple character with a focus on scary psychic rushdown tactics. Aside from not being similar in theme or personality or appearance, they also play dramatically differently).
I need some Ken practice, I can tear people up if they don't know how to always guard against mk --> ex tatsu, but I think I overuse that trick and have trouble with people who know to block low against Ken. What are some good tricks to throw into a Ken strategy aside from his big, scary Tatsu combos and maybe a kara throw or two?
I meant close roundhouse, not crouching. Damn these abbreviations?
Jumping roundhouse --> close standing roundhouse --> any tatsu. Of course, if your opponent lets you land that easily then you probably don't need anything more complicated than mk anyways.
Ugh ugh ugh fuck Makoto. I mean she's a good character but god I hate fighting her. So MUCH stun. Besides have Makoto and Sakura in the same game seems redundant to me. Then again so does having Dudley and Boxer in the same game.
I'd much rather see Alex show up, he's supposed to be the main character of SF3, maybe they can actually develop him some in this game.
Agreed hard. I don't dislike Makoto, but to me she's nothing more than a butch Sakura. Having both is redundant.
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None of you have played makoto before huh.
Yeah, I've mained Makoto in SF3 for several years and mained Sakura in SF4 since the console edition was released (and played her in other games since the late 90s). "Young Japanese short-haired female who fights (because they're in a fighting game)" is pretty much the point where the similarity stops between those two.
Something I ve been thinking about a little bit about SSF4 is the (still unconfirmed) SF3 characters. They look really great and different, but I was also thinking they make some of the original SF characters look so dull. I think they have that original solid ness so I'm fine with them but would it be bad if they added or rethought some things about the old cast? Nothing huge. I guess I'm mostly thinking of someone like Guile or Honda compared to Makoto or Dudley.
I guess it is necessary to have simple, more one dimentional characters included. Maybe for Street Fighter 5 they'll rethink the cast as well as add or swap out the characters.
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Something I ve been thinking about a little bit about SSF4 is the (still unconfirmed) SF3 characters. They look really great and different, but I was also thinking they make some of the original SF characters look so dull. I think they have that original solid ness so I'm fine with them but would it be bad if they added or rethought some things about the old cast? Nothing huge. I guess I'm mostly thinking of someone like Guile or Honda compared to Makoto or Dudley.
I guess it is necessary to have simple, more one dimentional characters included. Maybe for Street Fighter 5 they'll rethink the cast as well as add or swap out the characters.
I still don't understand how they're going to have Makoto and Ibuki fighting as preteen girls. The SF timeline would make them 11-13 years old!
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They are more similar thematically than game play wise.
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Oh if SNK is allowed the possibilities are endless. A capcom vs SNK 3 could break 100 chars without breaking a sweat.
You have to wonder why capcom never picked up the rights to SNK, you'd have to assume they could get KOF and Fatal Fury now for virtually nothing.
Skullomania D.Dark and Pullum/Garuda in SSF4T YES PLEASE.
they have no gameplay similarities and i don't see any real thematic similarity
makoto is a confident karate master whose style and attitude are entirely different from sakura's
it's nothing like say, alex and abel, who have similar names, similar gameplay styles (grappler with half circle throws) and a vague physical similarity (mostly size or build)
Only the Art of Fighting Characters were really clones, though, and even then they were only total ripoffs in the early games and by 2000 or so had differentiated significally.
There's no Capcom terry equivalent, no capcom Mai equivalent, Kyo and Iori are loosely based on Shotos but just playing them in CVS2 you can see how different they are (and Kyo is really Fei + Shoto), and beyond Kyo and Iori and the AOF guys most of the rest of the King of Fighters characters are just outer space compared to street fighter.
FuriousJodo v. Rufus(Mechanica)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-a3Y9UzfB4
FuriousJodo v. Bison(Riki-Oh)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJVCYBFmoZw
The Bison match isn't really worth watching, it's pretty ugly. I really need to work on that match-up.
There are a few other match videos up as well, AfroCole playing Dhalsim in a few of them.
Just give me Batsu, Kyosuke, and the insanely broken-but-fixed-for-a-new-game Hyo.
And change Hyo's outfit from that of a homosexual Queen's Guard.
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That rufus/fuerte match was sweet. I dunno if you know the announcers, but if you do, tell them to either put your real names in the description or start referring to you guys as your handles. They started talking about "Danny" or something and it was confusing as hell.
None of you have played makoto before huh.
i thought i was past dealing with that nonsense.
at least they were all pretty terrible.
I am so confused.
Yeah, I messed it up. You can ex-run through it and start a loop and I just psyched myself out because I was afraid of the damage so I went for splash instead. You can do the same thing on Akuma's roundhouse which generally beats the crap out of Fuerte. It's super risky but if I can get it down it REALLY can turn the tide of things.
One of her special moves is "get angry."
Not "get angry then have a cutscene where you jump in the air and shoot a gigantic fireball" or "get angry and then the screen flashes black and you go 'rawr I like tacos' and hit some poor guy 27 times" or "get angry and do a piledriver then touch your opponent's buttocks in an innappropriate manner," she just gets angry.
Then, she punches you.
(On a more serious note, Sakura is a sort of weird combo-heavy shoto character and Makoto is a mixed poke / grapple character with a focus on scary psychic rushdown tactics. Aside from not being similar in theme or personality or appearance, they also play dramatically differently).
I need some Ken practice, I can tear people up if they don't know how to always guard against mk --> ex tatsu, but I think I overuse that trick and have trouble with people who know to block low against Ken. What are some good tricks to throw into a Ken strategy aside from his big, scary Tatsu combos and maybe a kara throw or two?
j.hk > f.srk
they'll never see that coming
I can't tell if you're being serious, if you are wouldn't j.hk > c.rh > rh tatsu be the better combo?
You could be pro and just do jump back mk, fireball fireball, tatsu out when they're close and troll all day long.
Jumping roundhouse --> close standing roundhouse --> any tatsu. Of course, if your opponent lets you land that easily then you probably don't need anything more complicated than mk anyways.
F.SRK --> F.SRK --> F.SRK
Seriously though is that even possible.
it seems to do a hell of a lot if it hits you on the ground
edit: 240 damage for the whole thing
jesus
No, Just tried it. Only the last hit of the second F.SRK hits and that is not fadc'able. Plus no one lives past the first one.
No, Just tried it. Only the last hit of the second F.SRK hits and that is not fadc'able. Plus no one lives past the first one.
edit: in response to his EX SRK, his RH Tatsu does 240 if you connect with all hits too.
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it was brutal
i hate that guy
Couldn't touch her, she had her pokes and anti-air down like it was SF3 alpha.
Beat her 2nd try when I rechallenged, but she was prob the best Rose I've seen.
3-4 hits into Super too.
proof that you can be good with anyone if you practice enough
of course, imagine if he'd put that much effort into, say, zangief
or ryu
I hate Cody's costume. Seriously, black and white prison stripes? Why not dress him up like a clown?
At least use the modern orange jumpsuit. I'm sure they could make it work.
Yeah, I've mained Makoto in SF3 for several years and mained Sakura in SF4 since the console edition was released (and played her in other games since the late 90s). "Young Japanese short-haired female who fights (because they're in a fighting game)" is pretty much the point where the similarity stops between those two.
I guess it is necessary to have simple, more one dimentional characters included. Maybe for Street Fighter 5 they'll rethink the cast as well as add or swap out the characters.
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I still don't understand how they're going to have Makoto and Ibuki fighting as preteen girls. The SF timeline would make them 11-13 years old!
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