But damn is it good fun.
Hello and welcome to the Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 thread! While posting here and playing with other people remember:
a) Have fun.
b) Don’t be a dick, even if doing so accomplishes a) for you.
Ground Rules
I've PM'd Echo about these, since I don't want to come off sounding like I think I have Mod-like powers, but I'll post them in this spoiler and let you guys decide whether they sound reasonable.
Due to previous controversy, I’m setting out some rules to ensure that we all have a good time here.
-No ‘LOL Treyarch’ posts: I don’t care if your cat was run over by a Treyarch employee, this is the MW2 thread, stay on topic.
-No PC vs console arguments: We’re all here to enjoy Modern Warfare 2, so play nice, and don’t perpetuate this stereotype of internet forums.
-Keep ethical debate civil: Discussing the inner workings of a game is what these threads are all about, but once again, play nice.
On Dedicated Servers, etc: This argument appears to have died down, and while any thread on even the most AAA of games is going to have people bring up (often legitamate) gripes (like Killer Croc in Batman:AA, or No Fighting in the War Room in this thread), I would like to think that the people who have been turned off from MW2 (your call and I respect your decision) have said their piece and can leave this thread to the people who are excited about this game.
-Remember your spoiler tags!
Work-around to lack of Party Chat by Sivraj:
But for anyone trying to play multiplayer with their friends, here's an alternative to party chat:
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2009/11/09/alternative-to-party-chat-in-call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2/
From the site:
Step One: Go to Xbox.com and log in to your account
Step Two: From your profile page, click on Privacy Settings (it's just to the right of your avatar)
Step Three: The top option should say Voice and Text. Set it to Friends Only. Save.
Now whenever you play "Modern Warfare 2" multiplayer you'll only hear people you are friends with.
Basically, you set your "Voice and Text" option to Friends Only. BAM, problem solved
. I'm not sure if you can do it from your console though. The website only explains how to do it through Xbox.com.
Multiplayer Facts
Link
Friday, 13 November 2009
Modern Warfare 2The handling of weapons has changed significantly, they have been moved to one of the game's "fastfiles", encrypted.
My ability is not enough to crack them, though others have fared better.
At least the multiplayer weapons still operate very much like their COD4 predecessors.
Weapon damage in increments of ten. Damage loss after a distance depending on the weapon type.
Testing from other sources has confirmed the use of a damage of "35" for weapons.
The intent for this is likely to make Stopping Power less "powerful".
For example, the FAL may deliver 50-35 damage. Because of this, Stopping Power's benefit is not prevalent - 50 is already two shots and 35 is three, Power bringing it up to 49 damage will still require three shots. It does appear to have at least a 1.5x headshot multiplier, similar to the M14, allowing a one headshot kill up close with Stopping Power.
Sniper rifles use the 70 damage with varying 1.5 and 1.1 multipliers.
The silencer appears to have a negative effect to sniper rifles, LMGs and possibly other weapons that do not lose damage over distance.
Also shotgun range is decreased by silencers.
Details on things that are not guns, of what was able to be ripped out of the fastfiles (so far) thanks to gagarin.
Sentry Gun has 1000 points of health.
Explosives deliver 7x their damage against a Sentry.
A Melee attack will instantly disable the Sentry.
The Sentry has the potential to fire continuously for eight seconds.
It recovers fully in four. If it "overheats", it will take eight seconds.
The UAV has 700 health and hangs around for thirty seconds.
Both Helicopters and the Pavelow have 1500 health.
The AI controlled Helicopters use three of the four same old Threat Factors.
Class Threat has been removed, presumably due to the Secondary Weapon diversity.
The Harrier has 3000 health.
Luckily, lots of things will instantly kill it (or at least really hurt it (and all other aircraft).
A Stinger, Javelin and other killstreaks (like the remote missile and AC130 guns) will instantly destroy it.
The RPG7 and AT4 will do whatever damage they do AND an extra 900 points of damage.
The AC-130 apparently only has 1000 health.
This is probably offset by the fact that it has two flare countermeasures and is way up in the air.
It lasts 40 seconds. All three guns are all available. They have a reload time of:
25mm = 1.5
40mm = 3.0
105mm = 5.0
The Care Package and Emergency Airdrop have a chance of dropping anything (except nukes).
Care Package has a much higher probability of dropping other low-Streak hardpoints, while the Emergency Airdrop evens up the chances for nearly anything up to the EMP.
On perks and a few other things:
The wait time between bursts for the FAMAS and M16 is still 0.2 seconds.
Stopping Power is still 1.4x against players.
Stopping Power Pro increases its damage against vehicles by 1.65x.
Danger Close is a bit stronger than it's predecessor, 1.4x increase in damage (rather than 1.25).
Blast Shield equipment cuts damage down to 0.45x (or 0.65?), ensuring almost always surviving anything.
Blast Shield and Danger Close will cancel each other out.
Semtex stuck to the player will ignore Blast Shield.
Commando adds 176 units of measurement to its 64 inch melee strike.
Commando Pro does indeed cut off all damage for any fall... and it appears that a lethal fall will make the player do a barrel roll instead.
Rapid Fire attachment has the same effect as Double Tap, multiplying time between shots by 0.75x (other way around, Rate of fire by 1.33x)
FMJ (Full Metal Jacket) attachment has the same effect as Deep Impact, greatly improving penetration through walls and objects.
Painkiller adds 200 health to the player. If the player suffers at least 101 points of damage while Painkiller is active... he gets a reward. Throwing knives and melee attacks will still kill in one hit.
One Man Army allows the player to change his class on the fly in 6 seconds.
One Many Army Pro cuts that down to 3. It takes the place of the secondary weapon and can not be dropped.
Sleight of Hand still cuts reload time in half. Pro halves both sighting in and out.
Lightweight will multiply movement speed by 1.1x (I dunno, that's what it reads)
Lightweight Pro will multiply the delay between sprinting and being able to attack by 0.6x.
Ninja Pro and SitRep Pro will multiply Player footstep sound by 0.25x and enemy footsteps by 4x respectively.
The problem shotgun hitscans had with cars is dealt with, damage dealt to destructibles like barrels and cars are multiplied by four.
Cars and barrels have the same health and "on fire" health drain as they do in COD4.
Awesome video time!
I know I've missed some, but they can always be added later.
What about weapons, perks, etc?
Weapons/equipment list plus unlock levels courtesy of Mechanical.
Primary Weapons
Assault Rifles
4 - M4A1
1 - FAMAS
9 - SCAR-H
20 - TAR-21
28 - FAL
40 - M16A4
48 - ACR
60 - F2000
70 - AK-47
Submachine Guns
4 - MP5K
1 - UMP 45
12 - TDI Vector
24 - P90
44 - Mini Uzi
Light Machine Guns
1 - L86 LSW
4 - RPD
16 - MG4
32 - AUG HBAR
52 - M240
Sniper Rifles
2 - Barrett Light Fifty
4 - Intervention
36 - WA2000
56 - M14 EBR
2 - Riot Shield
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Secondary
Machine Pistols
3 - PP2000
22 - G18
38 - M93
58 - TMP
Shotguns
1 - SPAS-12
18 - AA-12
34 - Striker
42 - Ranger
54 - M1014
67 - Model 1887
Handguns
2 - USP.45
26 - Colt Anaconda
46 - M9
62 - Desert Eagle
Launchers
1 - AT4-HS
14 - M79 x2
30 - Stinger
50 - Javelin
65 - RPG-7 X2
Equipment
4 - Frag grenade: Cookable frags
4 - Semtax: Timed stickey explosives
7 - Throwing Knife: Throwable weapon, can be picked back up
11 - Tactical Insertion: Choose spawn position
19 - Blast Shield: Increased explosive resistance
31 - Claymore: Proximity mine
43: C4: Remote explosive device
Special Grenades:
x1 Smoke
x2 Flash
x2 Stun
Sweet map pictures! Images found on
this dude's photobucket account.
Afghan:
Derail
Estate
Favela
Highrise
Invasion
Karachi
Quarry
Rundown
Rust
Scrapyard
Skidrow
SubBase
Terminal
Underpass
Wasteland
Callsign & Emblem unlocks:
Wikia link. (Note that being a wiki means this likely isn't 100% accurate).
Primary weapon attachment list with help from Kris_xK (Secondary weapon attachment list pending):
Assault Rifles: ( M4A1, FAMAS, SCAR-H, TAR-21, FAL, M16A4, ACR, F2000, AK-47)
Grenade Launcher
Red Dot Sight
Silencer
ACOG Scope
FMJ
Shotgun
Holographic Sight
Heartbeat Sensor
Thermal
Extended Mags
Sub Machine Guns: (MP5K, UMP45, Vector, P90, Mini-Uzi)
Rapid Fire
Red Dot Sight
Silencer
ACOG Scope
FMJ
Akimbo
Holographic Sight
Thermal
Extended Mags
Light Machine Guns: (L86 LSW, RPD, MG4, AUG HBAR, M240)
Grip
Red Dot Sight
Silencer
ACOG Scope
FMJ
Holographic Sight
Heartbeat Sensor
Thermal
Extended Mags
Snipers: (Intervention, Barrett .50 cal, WA2000, M21 EBR)
Silencer
ACOG Scope
FMJ
Heartbeat Sensor
Thermal
Extended Mags
Perk list also courtesy of Mechanical (and completed with help from Kris_xK):
TIER 1
1 - Marathon: Unlimited sprint.
-Pro: Increased mantle speed. (Run 26 miles with this perk)
2 - Sleight of Hand - Faster reloading.
-Pro: Increased Aim Down Sight speed. (120 kills with this perk)
13 - Scavenger - Full resupply from dead enemies.
-Pro: Extra Mags. (100 Resupplies)
21 - Bling - 2 primary weapon attachments.
-Pro: Two attachments on secondary weapon. (200 kills with this perk)
45 - One Man Army - Switch classes without respawn.
-Pro: Swap classes faster. (120 kills with this perk)
TIER 2
1 - Stopping Power: Increased bullet damage.
-Pro: Increased damage to vehicles. (250 kills with this perk)
1 - Lightweight - Overall speed increase.
-Pro: Quick aim after sprinting. (Sprint 30 miles with this perk)
9 - Hardline: Killstreaks require 1 less kill.
-Pro: Deathstreaks require 1 less death. (40 killstreaks [at least 2 kills] with this perk)
25 - Cold-Blooded: Undetectable by UAV, air support, sentries and thermal.
-Pro: No red crosshair or name when targeted. (Destroy 40 enemy killstreak rewards while using this perk)
33 - Danger Close: Increased explosive damage.
-Pro: Extra air support damage. (100 explosive kills with this perk)
TIER 3
1 - Commando: Increased melee distance.
-Pro: No falling damage. (20 melee kills with this perk)
1 - Steady Aim: Increased hip accuracy.
-Pro: Iron Lungs (Hold breath longer to reduce sniper rifle sway). (80 hip-fire kills with this perk)
17 - Scrambler: Distorts nearby opponent's radar.
-Pro: Delay enemy claymore explosions. (50 close-range kills with this perk)
29 - Ninja: Invisible to heartbeat sensor. (Note: NINJA WORKS CORRECTLY ON THE HEARTBEAT SENSOR, IT IS A BUG IN THE KILLCAM.)
-Pro: Dead Silence (Move silently). (50 close-range kills with this perk)
37 - Sitrep: Locate enemy explosives and tactical insertions.
-Pro: Enemy footsteps louder. (Destroy 120 enemy devices using this perk)
41 - Last Stand: Pull out your pistol before dying for 10 seconds.
-Pro: Use grenades and equipment as well as your pistol. (20 Last Stand kills)
Kill/Deathstreak list:
Modern Warfare 2 Killstreaks (Note: You start with UAV, Care Package and Predator Missile, you earn tokens to unlock more as you level up, first at level 10. These do stack now, meaning you won’t lose your previous rewards if you earn higher level ones. You also can’t take two killstreaks which require the same number of kills to earn at the same time).
3 Kills -- UAV
4 Kills -- Care Package
4 Kills -- Counter UAV
5 Kills -- Sentry Gun
5 Kills -- Predator Missile
6 Kills -- Precision Airstrike
7 Kills -- Strike
7 Kills -- Attack Heli
8 Kills -- Emergency Airdrop
9 Kills -- Pave Low
9 Kills -- Stealth Bomber
11 Kills -- Chopper Gunner
11 Kills -- AC-130
15 Kills -- EMP
25 Kills -- Tactical Nuke (this instantly ends the match with you as the victor)
Deathstreaks
1 - Copycat - 4 deaths without a kill
6 - Painkiller - 3 deaths without a kill
27 - Martyrdom - 4 deaths without a kill
39 - Final Stand - 4 deaths without a kill
Neogaf's thread is alright for some other info and pretty pictures.I want to play with people on this forum!(X360) Friends List for that console which overheats a lot:We've got a CoD Clan Meta-Tag run by Burtletoy: A PA CoD ClanA PA CoD Clan is now full! Hit me up on PA MW2
From here, you can view other people on the tag and invite them to your game. I may do the same if the group I join needs more people, but sometimes I just want to pub-stomp, so don't be offended if I ignore you. Also,
send the invite to the clan tag. Everybody sending one invite is far more convenient then me sending every invite.
There's also
PA CoD4, which is an older account with a lot of names on it, I think it was being run by I King Kong I. It probably isn't being maintained anymore, FYI.
(PS3) Friends List for that console which people seem to laugh out loud about for some reason:
PA Handle - PS3 Name
Gihgehls as Hellphish
Debaserzbs as FancyLad
Jokerman as Jokermein
Fourier_series as Fourier_series
Algertman as AlbertBOMB
Ah_Pook as Ah_Pook
Jean Claude Van Calm as Grimmsy- (yes, that's a dash there)
KidDynamite as NinjaForHire
Articus as Art__ (that's 2 underscores)
Shaggy as Mr_P1tt
kazanma as kazanma
DesertChicken as Desert Chicken
Pookiepoo as Pookie-san
Packman as jkolpack
Cincitucky as Cincitucky
Lord Yod as LordYod
donhonk as donhonk
Campy as pablocampy
(PC) Friends List for that console which actually isn’t a console and uses some sort of program called ‘Storm’, or whatever.
PA Handle - Steam Name
Gihgehls as hellphish
Fleck0 as Fleck0
SirToasty as patoast
Dourin as Dourin
ReverendCaliber as ReverendCaliber
rndmhero as rndmhero
SJ as Warboss SJ
We also have a Steam group! Contact Fleck0 through Steam if you want an invite or if you have any other questions.
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/pamw2
And finally, a funny:
Posts
Well like I said, I have both the chopper and the AC130 unlocked and much prefer the latter. Plus, COD4 wasn't all about the killstreaks. I can roll with just 2 usable ones and keep the nuke in my pocket.
I said in the other thread, 99 times out of 100 you will never get to 25 kills. But that one time you do, that rare perfect run where your harrier gets nine kills and you oneshot everyone with the AC130 and imagine if you didn't have the nuke. You would be so pissed off.
I can deal with never using the nuke on the future promise of having there just in case. Considering I roll with an actual clan with organization (well, admittedly it is a three-man-clan), everyone else having the supply drops, emergency drops and EMP leaves me to be the nuke mule.
This is a post about... P90s.
Yes.
I've found that the majority of SMG's are actually too accurate from the hip to warrant using Steady Aim. Like, you'd need to be ungodly with it when they're in your face, otherwise you'll miss by the smallest of margins.
Ninja Pro or Scrambler are good alternatives.
Definitely. You know I never leave home without it.
despite not feeling like I suck at FPS games, my kill death ratio is somewhere around 1/3, and I'm at level 26
I have noticed in the last couple sit downs I've finally started getting better by sprinting less, and spending more time methodically moving about maps, as opposed to running to cap points and the like immediately, once I started acting like i'm in a war where death is something to be avoided I noticed that my ratio did start to climb just a bit
the thing that's crazy to me is how solid the competition is in general when it comes to twitch skills, I'm often amazed at how people spot me and kill me, although the kill cam is a fantastic learning experience
I can't really imagine playing without stopping power though, it's my great equalizer
I'm gonna have to try out the P90s akimbo, and I definitely wanna get the G18s.
G18's w/ Akimbo are very very solid, even at medium range. Their hip-fire is "accurate", if you're speaking relatively.
The P90's are pretty solid, but even with Steady Aim the hip-fire is nearly half the screen.
I use SMGs all the time. They have overwhelming rates of fire, along with great hip-fire accuracy, decent mid-range capability (which many Akimbos do not have), and 2-3 shot kills with Stopping Power.
Also I just got the ACR and I guess it isn't my style, not overly impressed. Gotta get all those achievements though.
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I'm guessing that xbox probably has alot of different play tactics than the people on ps3 since it's the only time I've ever seen them. That and in all my play time I am the only person I have ever seen with the 8bit price icon.
I need to stop playing this game drunk, my k/d sucks
Whats wrong with hip-fire?
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I got a lot of understanding laughs when i said that another substance has a similar effect on my K/D ratio.... I don't do well when i crouch in a corner terrified to move, but it certainly adds to the realism
Akimbo anything is worth the price of admission. Especially when you run around a corner firing and yelling AAAAHHHHHH
What's the consensus on the third perk slot for a knifing build? Ninja or Commando?
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It's basically the same role.
By which I mean the kind of gun a bitch would use.
They're the sickest little killers at short range. 200 rounds to burn through is great and silenced gives you time to drop a few before they can react.
Domination on Highrise was me charging their only point and getting four or five on my way in every time. Fucking silly.
My 360 tag: Redcat Rising
Why it's so far down the list of unlocks I have no idea.
COMMANDO
mobility is everything, so being able to leap off heights to your victim and teleport to their chest to tear out their beating heart is what you need
besides, most people with HBS are bitches who shit their pants when they see you sprinting towards them, the mad glint in your eyes that tells them that no amount of negative K: D ratios can stop them using knives
silenced shotguns sound like sneezes.
really cool sneezes from no country for old men
Commando! by the time anyone would spot you on the HBS or notice the sound of your footsteps they're already dead anyway
you were killed by blunton chigurh, who uses silenced shotguns in no blunt-tree for old men
A red dot post?
it's automatically gifted to you for being a massive asshole. surprisingly not hard to acquire by internet standards.
dont you ever fucking have it equipped or I will rain down fire on you and yours so hard that satan himself will spit out his coffee at your sudden arrival.
What.
It sounds mean with the new metallic sound from the action.
From kill cam I saw a guy raping me over and over with that thing and acog.