I wonder if you'll end up refighting Sheep Man after he upgrades his RAM.
:x
Edit: So... does anyone else see all these potential connections to X? I wonder if it will be explicitly connected or if this is just "neener neener" on the part of Inticreates.
I would love to just see Light working on X in the backround, or see the blueprints for him on Lights bench...or something.
Actually since Zero was created by Wily, how cool would it be to have this game's last boss be Wily, and when you defeat him, you have to fight Zero...who proceeds to kill you.
Then MMX timeline begins.
It would be cool, but I think Inafune outright said that Zero isn't behind the 'Cataclysm' in an interview somewhere. Which is to bad, he's the obvious and most logical reason for it IMO.
Okay . . . what Cataclysm? Wily Built Zero then as far as we know he put him in stasis to wake up in tandem with X or for his own return which was never elaborated which was a huge waste.
It's a Bob & George fanfic that's raged out of control.
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Okay . . . what Cataclysm? Wily Built Zero then as far as we know he put him in stasis to wake up in tandem with X or for his own return which was never elaborated which was a huge waste.
I'm curious too. I also imagined the timeline as being something like this:
1) Wily completes work on Zero.
2) Zero kills Rockman.
3) Zero goes out of control, either Light or Wily find some way to stop him and put him in that diagnostic capsule (most likely Wily dies).
4) Light develops X based on the Zero design.
5) Other scientists build robots based on Light's X design.
6) Zero is activated, spreads virus to Sigma.
7) Sigma goes crazy, spreads the virus further.
8) X is awakened, MMX1 begins.
As far as I know the "Cataclysm" is an invention of fan fiction that doesn't really happen in the series timeline. I think some random web comic had Zero go around killing everybody, and eventually everybody assumed that was what happened.
Okay . . . what Cataclysm? Wily Built Zero then as far as we know he put him in stasis to wake up in tandem with X or for his own return which was never elaborated which was a huge waste.
I'm curious too. I also imagined the timeline as being something like this:
1) Wily completes work on Zero.
2) Zero kills Rockman.
3) Zero goes out of control, either Light or Wily find some way to stop him and put him in that diagnostic capsule (most likely Wily dies).
4) Light develops X based on the Zero design.
5) Other scientists build robots based on Light's X design.
6) Zero is activated, spreads virus to Sigma.
7) Sigma goes crazy, spreads the virus further.
8) X is awakened, MMX1 begins.
What was the Cataclysm?
Basically events 2 and 3 are what I've always thought the 'cataclysm' was. Except that zero basically goes crazy and kills everybody associated with the 'classic' storyline. I don't know about this "Bob and George" fanfic thing. I just imagined that Light was working on X around the same time Wily was on Zero. Zero goes on a rampage, sets civilization back a bit causing lots of robot technology to be lost, meanwhile Light completes his X prototype, and X defeats Zero. Dr Light realizes that Zero was unstable because of the morality reploid, suffering circuit, sigma maverick virus whatever, and hard reboots X, erasing his memory locks him up in the pod and has him run morality simulations etc to make sure he doesn't repeat Wily's mistake and X doesn't turn into another Zero.
Then comes MMX with Cain digging out X, creating the reploids, sigma mavericks yadda yadda yadda.
I don't think much of any of that is canon, but that's how I always imagined the transition.
Also the one at 0:50 looks kind of sort of almost like Mega Man.
0:47 has a body that could look like a stripped down Megaman and Auto's hand. It's not 100% certain, though, and the main reason I think Zero killed him is because Wily clearly ordered him to and there's no reason to think he didn't succeed.
I can understand the ambiguity, though. Saying the hero of the Megaman series was slaughtered is like saying Mario was beaten to death. It's a bit too grim to explicitly state.
As far as I know the "Cataclysm" is an invention of fan fiction that doesn't really happen in the series timeline. I think some random web comic had Zero go around killing everybody, and eventually everybody assumed that was what happened.
IIRC Inafune even said in an interview that the whole "Zero kills everyone" thing didn't happen.
As far as I know the "Cataclysm" is an invention of fan fiction that doesn't really happen in the series timeline. I think some random web comic had Zero go around killing everybody, and eventually everybody assumed that was what happened.
IIRC Inafune even said in an interview that the whole "Zero kills everyone" thing didn't happen.
This has been pointed out multiple times in this thread.
As far as I know the "Cataclysm" is an invention of fan fiction that doesn't really happen in the series timeline. I think some random web comic had Zero go around killing everybody, and eventually everybody assumed that was what happened.
IIRC Inafune even said in an interview that the whole "Zero kills everyone" thing didn't happen.
This has been pointed out multiple times in this thread.
Yeah well your face has been pointed out multiple times in this thread.
As far as I know the "Cataclysm" is an invention of fan fiction that doesn't really happen in the series timeline. I think some random web comic had Zero go around killing everybody, and eventually everybody assumed that was what happened.
IIRC Inafune even said in an interview that the whole "Zero kills everyone" thing didn't happen.
This has been pointed out multiple times in this thread.
Yeah well your face has been pointed out multiple times in this thread.
Hey.
He is a pretty man.
I mean Wily is stupid but after Bass I doubt he didn't Rip off the 30 year system but make sure it was all hate filled Destroy people programming. No sense in making a 3 Rules violating robot to rule the world if it can turn on you in a blink
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Also the one at 0:50 looks kind of sort of almost like Mega Man.
Y'know I don't even think that stuff's from the actual classic period, the only reason we even think so is because of Wily's commands. Heck for all we know it might be in the ruins of Wily's lab after a buncha'dudes, including Sigma I suppose, were combing around for another buried treasure like they did with Light's, and Zero goes all batshit after getting booted up 'cause that's what Wily built him for.
Are there any differences between the PS2 & GC Mega Man/ X collections that make one more preferable to the other?
GC version has fucked up controls that you can't change in the Megaman Collection (B is jump and A is shoot instead of the other way around). Definitely go with PS2.
As for X collection, just go with whatever version has the controller you'd prefer.
I have a SNES to GC controller adapter, so playing both on my Wii is awesome. MM4-8 is kind of a different story since I can't charge with Y (that's the turbo button).
MMX6 is more playable with the SNES controller, but it's still a piece of crap.
As far as I know the "Cataclysm" is an invention of fan fiction that doesn't really happen in the series timeline. I think some random web comic had Zero go around killing everybody, and eventually everybody assumed that was what happened.
This is pretty much it, though I think the speculation might have existed beforehand. Either way, it is decidedly non-canon.
I'm pretty sure they've never actually confirmed the death of Rockman.
Correct. Zero's flashback in one of X4's junky cutscenes shows him with blood on his hands. Some assume it's Wily's, some assume it's Mega Man's, some assume it's a cocktail of everyone's.
Also Dr. C dug up X from a whole bunch of rubble, putting cataclysm into people's minds. It's a pretty good guess.
An underground lab, to be precise. Whether Light had a basement, a secret bunker hidden away, or something happened to the common lab itself remains unstated.
It's a Bob & George fanfic that's raged out of control.
I tried reading that once.
Are people being ironic when they say it's good? Because it is in fact the opposite of good.
Got me. I assume that there are those who genuinely enjoy it. I thought it was alright for what it was, though kind of a pain for people taking it as gospel.
As for the comic itself, it's had its moments, but it's probably better they ended it after MM6, rather than keep on going.
Basically events 2 and 3 are what I've always thought the 'cataclysm' was. Except that zero basically goes crazy and kills everybody associated with the 'classic' storyline. I don't know about this "Bob and George" fanfic thing. I just imagined that Light was working on X around the same time Wily was on Zero.
This much seems to be true.
Zero goes on a rampage, sets civilization back a bit causing lots of robot technology to be lost, meanwhile Light completes his X prototype, and X defeats Zero. Dr Light realizes that Zero was unstable because of the morality reploid, suffering circuit, sigma maverick virus whatever, and hard reboots X, erasing his memory locks him up in the pod and has him run morality simulations etc to make sure he doesn't repeat Wily's mistake and X doesn't turn into another Zero.
I forget where, but I'm pretty sure that it's been stated that Zero's activation didn't come until 21XX, around the time Sigma and the Hunters found him.
But no, X wasn't activated, either. He was pretty much sealed up upon completion. He was "activated" enough to talk to Light, but not to a degree that he was up and moving around, much less fighting.
0:47 has a body that could look like a stripped down Megaman and Auto's hand. It's not 100% certain, though, and the main reason I think Zero killed him is because Wily clearly ordered him to and there's no reason to think he didn't succeed.
I can understand the ambiguity, though. Saying the hero of the Megaman series was slaughtered is like saying Mario was beaten to death. It's a bit too grim to explicitly state.
Two points: 1) Inafune didn't even like the UN helicopters exploding in Super Adventure Rockman, as he felt that was too dark for the series. So, yeah, something like that is probably not going to happen.
2) Take the X4 cutscenes with a grain of salt; among other things, they were off-model and I think went off the rails a bit.
IIRC Inafune even said in an interview that the whole "Zero kills everyone" thing didn't happen.
Pretty much.
One is better off to not even give much consideration to the classic series, Light and Wily aside, in regards to the X series. I just wish I could think of a good comparison.
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Whatever happened to Dr. Cain, anyway? He released X, proceeded to fuck up with the next generation of robots based on X, and then dropped off the face of the plot. Was he ever even seen in the games? Well, at least he is noteworthy for being the only guy with a name like Cain to never betray anyone.
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You know what? Nanowrimo's cancelled on account of the world is stupid.
Whatever happened to Dr. Cain, anyway? He released X, proceeded to fuck up with the next generation of robots based on X, and then dropped off the face of the plot. Was he ever even seen in the games? Well, at least he is noteworthy for being the only guy with a name like Cain to never betray anyone.
Dr. Cain appears briefly in X2 and X3, but after that he just sort of fades away and is never mentioned again.
Whatever happened to Dr. Cain, anyway? He released X, proceeded to fuck up with the next generation of robots based on X, and then dropped off the face of the plot. Was he ever even seen in the games? Well, at least he is noteworthy for being the only guy with a name like Cain to never betray anyone.
Dr. Cain appears briefly in X2 and X3, but after that he just sort of fades away and is never mentioned again.
IIRC, wasn't he dieing in X3? Or had some disease?
Whatever happened to Dr. Cain, anyway? He released X, proceeded to fuck up with the next generation of robots based on X, and then dropped off the face of the plot. Was he ever even seen in the games? Well, at least he is noteworthy for being the only guy with a name like Cain to never betray anyone.
Dr. Cain appears briefly in X2 and X3, but after that he just sort of fades away and is never mentioned again.
IIRC, wasn't he dieing in X3? Or had some disease?
No, that was Day of Sigma, which also retconned him out by way of nuclear fucking holocaust.
Wow, I wondered about that. I mean, I saw him, and I saw the explosion, but I thought it was kind of weird that they did that since he does show up in X2 and X3 on SNES (even more than he did in X1 on SNES).
Oh well!
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Man, im sooooooooooo pumped up for Megaman 10 that I keep on replaying Megaman 9. Which reminds me....are they ever going to announce the secret DLC they have been hording to themselves for about a year now?
Man, im sooooooooooo pumped up for Megaman 10 that I keep on replaying Megaman 9. Which reminds me....are they ever going to announce the secret DLC they have been hording to themselves for about a year now?
Man, im sooooooooooo pumped up for Megaman 10 that I keep on replaying Megaman 9. Which reminds me....are they ever going to announce the secret DLC they have been hording to themselves for about a year now?
What secret DLC?
Not sure about DLC, but I remember an interview with Killian where he said there was one secret in the game that no one had found yet.
Whatever happened to Dr. Cain, anyway? He released X, proceeded to fuck up with the next generation of robots based on X, and then dropped off the face of the plot. Was he ever even seen in the games? Well, at least he is noteworthy for being the only guy with a name like Cain to never betray anyone.
Dr. Cain appears briefly in X2 and X3, but after that he just sort of fades away and is never mentioned again.
He also appears in X4's manual and the manga by Iwamoto. Come X5, pretty much every function be might have served shy of maybe some sort of mentor was filled by Maverick Hunter General Signas, Navigator/Researcher Alia, mechanic Douglas, and Reploid doctor Lifesaver.
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Which game of the X series is considered the best (or which ones)? I've played 3 or 4 of them but not enough to make any sort of judgement call. I think it's safe to say anything after X6 isn't making the list.
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Which game of the X series is considered the best (or which ones)? I've played 3 or 4 of them but not enough to make any sort of judgement call. I think it's safe to say anything after X6 isn't making the list.
Personally me, my favorites go in this order:
MMX
MMX4 (sorry, playing as Zero is just too fun)
MMX2
MMX3
The rest
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The latter, I'm certain.
He did.
It's a Bob & George fanfic that's raged out of control.
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Nope, Eight is Frost Man.
Haha, there are so many repeats there, that I thought MM8 had it as well.
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I'm curious too. I also imagined the timeline as being something like this:
1) Wily completes work on Zero.
2) Zero kills Rockman.
3) Zero goes out of control, either Light or Wily find some way to stop him and put him in that diagnostic capsule (most likely Wily dies).
4) Light develops X based on the Zero design.
5) Other scientists build robots based on Light's X design.
6) Zero is activated, spreads virus to Sigma.
7) Sigma goes crazy, spreads the virus further.
8) X is awakened, MMX1 begins.
What was the Cataclysm?
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Also Dr. C dug up X from a whole bunch of rubble, putting cataclysm into people's minds. It's a pretty good guess.
I tried reading that once.
Are people being ironic when they say it's good? Because it is in fact the opposite of good.
Well there was that dream-ish scene in X4 or 5 showing Megaman's face-skin half torn off with his eyes missing and robo-blood everywhere.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS46EDfbD3o
None of the destroyed robots there even look remotely like Mega Man.
Also the one at 0:50 looks kind of sort of almost like Mega Man.
http://www.audioentropy.com/
Basically events 2 and 3 are what I've always thought the 'cataclysm' was. Except that zero basically goes crazy and kills everybody associated with the 'classic' storyline. I don't know about this "Bob and George" fanfic thing. I just imagined that Light was working on X around the same time Wily was on Zero. Zero goes on a rampage, sets civilization back a bit causing lots of robot technology to be lost, meanwhile Light completes his X prototype, and X defeats Zero. Dr Light realizes that Zero was unstable because of the morality reploid, suffering circuit, sigma maverick virus whatever, and hard reboots X, erasing his memory locks him up in the pod and has him run morality simulations etc to make sure he doesn't repeat Wily's mistake and X doesn't turn into another Zero.
Then comes MMX with Cain digging out X, creating the reploids, sigma mavericks yadda yadda yadda.
I don't think much of any of that is canon, but that's how I always imagined the transition.
0:47 has a body that could look like a stripped down Megaman and Auto's hand. It's not 100% certain, though, and the main reason I think Zero killed him is because Wily clearly ordered him to and there's no reason to think he didn't succeed.
I can understand the ambiguity, though. Saying the hero of the Megaman series was slaughtered is like saying Mario was beaten to death. It's a bit too grim to explicitly state.
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IIRC Inafune even said in an interview that the whole "Zero kills everyone" thing didn't happen.
This has been pointed out multiple times in this thread.
http://www.audioentropy.com/
Yeah well your face has been pointed out multiple times in this thread.
Hey.
He is a pretty man.
I mean Wily is stupid but after Bass I doubt he didn't Rip off the 30 year system but make sure it was all hate filled Destroy people programming. No sense in making a 3 Rules violating robot to rule the world if it can turn on you in a blink
GC version has fucked up controls that you can't change in the Megaman Collection (B is jump and A is shoot instead of the other way around). Definitely go with PS2.
As for X collection, just go with whatever version has the controller you'd prefer.
MMX6 is more playable with the SNES controller, but it's still a piece of crap.
Two: Astro Man and Tengu Man. And they were given new weapons and attack patterns, if memory serves.
This is pretty much it, though I think the speculation might have existed beforehand. Either way, it is decidedly non-canon.
Correct. Zero's flashback in one of X4's junky cutscenes shows him with blood on his hands. Some assume it's Wily's, some assume it's Mega Man's, some assume it's a cocktail of everyone's.
An underground lab, to be precise. Whether Light had a basement, a secret bunker hidden away, or something happened to the common lab itself remains unstated.
Got me. I assume that there are those who genuinely enjoy it. I thought it was alright for what it was, though kind of a pain for people taking it as gospel.
As for the comic itself, it's had its moments, but it's probably better they ended it after MM6, rather than keep on going.
This much seems to be true.
I forget where, but I'm pretty sure that it's been stated that Zero's activation didn't come until 21XX, around the time Sigma and the Hunters found him.
But no, X wasn't activated, either. He was pretty much sealed up upon completion. He was "activated" enough to talk to Light, but not to a degree that he was up and moving around, much less fighting.
Two points: 1) Inafune didn't even like the UN helicopters exploding in Super Adventure Rockman, as he felt that was too dark for the series. So, yeah, something like that is probably not going to happen.
2) Take the X4 cutscenes with a grain of salt; among other things, they were off-model and I think went off the rails a bit.
Pretty much.
One is better off to not even give much consideration to the classic series, Light and Wily aside, in regards to the X series. I just wish I could think of a good comparison.
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I think I need to either make my lines darker or adjust my scanner settings.
Dr. Cain appears briefly in X2 and X3, but after that he just sort of fades away and is never mentioned again.
IIRC, wasn't he dieing in X3? Or had some disease?
Oh well!
I wish they used the cartoon voices for Powered Up
What secret DLC?
Not sure about DLC, but I remember an interview with Killian where he said there was one secret in the game that no one had found yet.
He also appears in X4's manual and the manga by Iwamoto. Come X5, pretty much every function be might have served shy of maybe some sort of mentor was filled by Maverick Hunter General Signas, Navigator/Researcher Alia, mechanic Douglas, and Reploid doctor Lifesaver.
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http://www.themmnetwork.com/2009/12/16/mm10-headed-to-all-three-consoles-japanese-subtitle/
But more importantly, the live webcast is tonight! (9:00 PM PST)
http://www.capcom-unity.com/jgonzo/blog/2009/12/11/a_mega_man_celebration
Either way I really hope March is the true date. Me wants new Mega Mans!
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Personally me, my favorites go in this order:
MMX
MMX4 (sorry, playing as Zero is just too fun)
MMX2
MMX3
The rest
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