You know, there is really a trend of people in this game being so dumb that it feels contrived. Isolde, Catherin, Jowan, basically all the dalish elves, and who knows how many other examples I'm forgetting about.
Loghaine : 'This isn't a real blight'
Howe : 'Darkspawn are at the city gates sire'
Loghaine : 'This isn't a real blight. Cailan just wanted it to be'
Howe : 'Sire, you are apparently being eaten by darkspawn as we speak'
Loghaine : 'This isn't a real blight'
at least loghain has a reason that sort of makes sense for saying that
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hold your head high soldier, it ain't over yet
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
If people weren't that dumb, then they'd have to actually write out decent persuade options that don't just literally restate the other options but with [persuade] in front of them.
We should help the villagers
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[persuade]helping the villagers is a good idea
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You know, there is really a trend of people in this game being so dumb that it feels contrived. Isolde, Catherin, Jowan, basically all the dalish elves, and who knows how many other examples I'm forgetting about.
I disagree with pretty much...all of these. Isolde, Cauthrien, and Jowan are all objectively mistaken people but in perfectly believable fashions. They make very human mistakes.
As for the Dalish I'm not even sure what you're referring to.
At least the [Intimidate] options are generally believable. They're basically just "I'm going to break your fucking face if you don't do this", but still.
I really like this game I have no idea what I'm doing but Dwarf bard sounds like it will be bad ass.
However my computer keeps crashing in the Wilds at Ostragon and I have no idea why my card is a Radeon 3870 it just stops displaying and my monitor shuts off and I have to reboot.
This happen to anyone else?
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You know, there is really a trend of people in this game being so dumb that it feels contrived. Isolde, Catherin, Jowan, basically all the dalish elves, and who knows how many other examples I'm forgetting about.
Loghaine : 'This isn't a real blight'
Howe : 'Darkspawn are at the city gates sire'
Loghaine : 'This isn't a real blight. Cailan just wanted it to be'
Howe : 'Sire, you are apparently being eaten by darkspawn as we speak'
Loghaine : 'This isn't a real blight'
So here's my issue with this:
Loghain contradicts himself several times on his stance on the Blight. First, at Ostegar, he says that it's not a real Blight. He asserts this during the first cut scene where he is speaking with Howe and Anora.
Later on, when he confronts you at Arl Eamon's estate at Denerim, he yells at you for calling a Landsmeet during a full on Blight.
You have NO IDEA how much I wanted to call him on his bullshit right there. Why there wasn't a "OH! So NOW you agree it's a Blight? Too bad you didn't agree back at Ostegar, you know, when we COULD HAVE STOPPED THIS THING HAD YOU NOT PULLED AWAY LIKE A COWARD!" dialogue choice.
Edit: On Intimidate / Persuade:
I agree that the Intimidate options are a lot more to the point and well written - I mean, that's basically what you're doing - cutting past all the bullshit and outright threatening them. Persuade tells to be weaker, but some of them are pretty slick. And then there's the rare (Cunning) that pops up every now and then...
especially since she's too dumb to see through loghain's bullshit, despite being there at ostagar
She even hesitated to carry out the order, but still went along with it. I can see why she wouldn't have argued against Loghain's command there, it would have been more interesting to resign her command and leave in disgust afterward. I certainly wouldn't have been able to live with myself.
It's too bad they just made her a stooge. She could have had serious character potential - I'd imagine that she likely lived with a lot of guilt and shame for being the direct cause of the death of literally thousands of people - direct casualties at Ostegar, and indirect casualties from the spread of the Blight across the countryside... Imagine running into her at some point, living in isolation and shame, then convincing her to join your cause and fight against Loghain's treachary to regain her honor.
She's not just a stooge. She knows Loghain is a horrible person, but she's been living in denial and rationalizing everything whether Loghain deserves that or not. She feels like she owes him everything and has tried to convince herself that he's done everything right.
Instead of fighting her, you can actually get her to admit that, yes, Loghain is a terrible person and that he hasn't been doing good things. She'll let you pass after that.
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...Ranadiel. Some people have not beat the game yet. Please spoiler your stuff.
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Spoilers, people. Please, spoiler these things (@Ranadiel).
You know, there is really a trend of people in this game being so dumb that it feels contrived. Isolde, Catherin, Jowan, basically all the dalish elves, and who knows how many other examples I'm forgetting about.
I disagree with pretty much...all of these. Isolde, Cauthrien, and Jowan are all objectively mistaken people but in perfectly believable fashions. They make very human mistakes.
As for the Dalish I'm not even sure what you're referring to.
They're all so incredibly unaware of what's going on around them that it strains believability. Jowan is sort of believeable, but even then, when you're in redcliffe and he unloads the "this has all gone so wrong" line or however it went, it's more absurdly funny that anything else.
I include the elves because apparently they just blindly follow their leader in every situation, even when presented with evidence that he's an asshole
Eat it You Nasty Pig. on
hold your head high soldier, it ain't over yet
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
You know, there is really a trend of people in this game being so dumb that it feels contrived. Isolde, Catherin, Jowan, basically all the dalish elves, and who knows how many other examples I'm forgetting about.
I disagree with pretty much...all of these. Isolde, Cauthrien, and Jowan are all objectively mistaken people but in perfectly believable fashions. They make very human mistakes.
As for the Dalish I'm not even sure what you're referring to.
They're all so incredibly unaware of what's going on around them that it strains believability. Jowan is sort of believeable, but even then, when you're in redcliffe and he unloads the "this has all gone so wrong" line or however it went, it's more absurdly funny that anything else.
I include the elves because apparently they just blindly follow their leader in every situation, even when presented with evidence that he's an asshole
Actually, I find Cauthrien to be very believable. Their are plenty of people in real life who will follow people they respect even when they don't agree with them.
You know, there is really a trend of people in this game being so dumb that it feels contrived. Isolde, Catherin, Jowan, basically all the dalish elves, and who knows how many other examples I'm forgetting about.
I disagree with pretty much...all of these. Isolde, Cauthrien, and Jowan are all objectively mistaken people but in perfectly believable fashions. They make very human mistakes.
As for the Dalish I'm not even sure what you're referring to.
They're all so incredibly unaware of what's going on around them that it strains believability. Jowan is sort of believeable, but even then, when you're in redcliffe and he unloads the "this has all gone so wrong" line or however it went, it's more absurdly funny that anything else.
I include the elves because apparently they just blindly follow their leader in every situation, even when presented with evidence that he's an asshole
Still being kind of incredibly non-specific here. I can't debate this point without taking apart the entire topic because I still don't know what specific actions you're referring to.
I didn't really want to break them all apart because I didn't feel like writing out a million spoiler tags. So all you people who haven't beaten the game or w/e just get one big one, watch out!
Every time you interact with Jowan he's in a bad situation because he's done something really stupid, in the mage tower or in redcliffe. Cauthrien watches loghain leave the king to die at ostagar, instigate a civil war, kidnap the queen and lord knows what else. I understand Isolde is supposed to be playing the role of the protective mother, but at the point where your possessed son is raising the dead to slaughter the living in their homes, it ought not to take a storypunch for her to realize that drastic measures are needed. This was particularly egregious on my no-mage game. Hiring Jowan? Also a strike against her.
And the elves have a couple of briefish dialogues or quests in which it's made clear that they never question zatharian about anything, ever. Even the dude whose wife is a werewolf is all "no, can't bring it up with the leader even though he lied to me, that would be rude.
Eat it You Nasty Pig. on
hold your head high soldier, it ain't over yet
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
You know, there is really a trend of people in this game being so dumb that it feels contrived. Isolde, Catherin, Jowan, basically all the dalish elves, and who knows how many other examples I'm forgetting about.
I disagree with pretty much...all of these. Isolde, Cauthrien, and Jowan are all objectively mistaken people but in perfectly believable fashions. They make very human mistakes.
As for the Dalish I'm not even sure what you're referring to.
They're all so incredibly unaware of what's going on around them that it strains believability. Jowan is sort of believeable, but even then, when you're in redcliffe and he unloads the "this has all gone so wrong" line or however it went, it's more absurdly funny that anything else.
I include the elves because apparently they just blindly follow their leader in every situation, even when presented with evidence that he's an asshole
Still being kind of incredibly non-specific here. I can't debate this point without taking apart the entire topic because I still don't know what specific actions you're referring to.
In regards to the Dalish:
I'm not really sure what you are getting at either. Are you speaking in regards to the werewolf curse and Zathrian? Because none of them knew of his link, with the exception of his first, and then she only had suspicions. She had no idea the depths of it or that he was actually the one who started the whole mess.
I attributed the Dalish' blind following of Zathrian to the fact that they'd been f'd over so much in the past that they placed him on an amazingly high pedestal for the fact that he was not only their Keeper, but appeared to have been the first Elf to regain his immortality. Because of this, he means everything to him. But that's another strike against the Elves because none of them really give a shit when you come back from the forest without Zathrian. His first just takes over and everyone just goes on their way.
What should have happened was that the Elves should have gone ballistic, captured your party and threatened your life for once again taking away something important to them. You should have had to fight your way out, or get assistance from the elves you helped earlier to convince the rest of the Clan not to kill you. They should have been portrayed as a desperate people, clinging onto their traditions at any and all cost - that would have been much more interesting.
Actually, the Dalish seem the most generic and characterless than any of the other races. Perhaps it's because they willingly isolate themselves and, unlike the dwarves, there's no intrigue and barely any humor during your mission there. Well, I take that back - there is some humor involved, but to see it you have to be a giant asshole when it comes to Cammen's problem...
I seem to get horrendous load times when heading down into the Deep Roads. Everything else has been fine so far but whenever I click on a location in the Roads it can take around 2 minutes to load up the location.
I seem to get horrendous load times when heading down into the Deep Roads. Everything else has been fine so far but whenever I click on a location in the Roads it can take around 2 minutes to load up the location.
Kinda sucks.
Same here, I also got terrible loads all over Orzammar.
Dunno if this has been covered already, but uh... anyone know the deal with physical resistance? Is it an important stat for tanking? I've got 80ish right now and I'm not sure if I want to stack anymore. Is it just for avoiding stuff like knockdowns? I have improved Shield Wall and all so that already makes me immune to direct knockdowns. Is it like spell resistance, where it helps increase the chances of completely missing a physical hit? Or is it like armor, where it reduces the damage of a physical hit? Does it help with avoiding stuns, or is that mental resistance?
I didn't really want to break them all apart because I didn't feel like writing out a million spoiler tags. So all you people who haven't beaten the game or w/e just get one big one, watch out!
Every time you interact with Jowan he's in a bad situation because he's done something really stupid, in the mage tower or in redcliffe. Cauthrien watches loghain leave the king to die at ostagar, instigate a civil war, kidnap the queen and lord knows what else. I understand Isolde is supposed to be playing the role of the protective mother, but at the point where your possessed son is raising the dead to slaughter the living in their homes, it ought not to take a storypunch for her to realize that drastic measures are needed. This was particularly egregious on my no-mage game. Hiring Jowan? Also a strike against her.
And the elves have a couple of briefish dialogues or quests in which it's made clear that they never question zatharian about anything, ever. Even the dude whose wife is a werewolf is all "no, can't bring it up with the leader even though he lied to me, that would be rude.
He's the text book example of a guy who makes one mistake that costs him big, and continues to take risky actions in a desperate attempt to put his life back together. All of his actions are very reasonable. He gets hunted down by the Templars and rescued by the King of all people. Is he really going to turn down a way out of his situation from the KING, regardless of how questionable it may be?
Isolde is a mother. Irrationality where matters concern her child goes with the territory, especially when your child is born with ultra dangerous super powers that will almost certainly kill his hopes at a normal life. And probably mean he'll be taken away from her for 80% of his life.
The elves...have no reason to question Zathrian? He's been an effective leader for centuries by all accounts.
Also I do feel that the Dalish as a culture are woefully underdeveloped. Given Arl Foreshadow's notes though I expect elves to see some more loving in the next game. I mean, there's just a lot of questions that could have interesting answers. What is Dalish faith really like? How do they reconcile worshipping ultra fallible Creators which by their own mythology are all securely sealed away?
Dunno if this has been covered already, but uh... anyone know the deal with physical resistance? Is it an important stat for tanking? I've got 80ish right now and I'm not sure if I want to stack anymore. Is it just for avoiding stuff like knockdowns? I have improved Shield Wall and all so that already makes me immune to direct knockdowns. Is it like spell resistance, where it helps increase the chances of completely missing a physical hit? Or is it like armor, where it reduces the damage of a physical hit? Does it help with avoiding stuns, or is that mental resistance?
It helps prevent knockdown and physical-based stuns, like from Dirty Fighting.
I'd say it's very important for tanks, there's nothing like taking a ram from an Ogre and not even flinching.
Dunno if this has been covered already, but uh... anyone know the deal with physical resistance? Is it an important stat for tanking? I've got 80ish right now and I'm not sure if I want to stack anymore. Is it just for avoiding stuff like knockdowns? I have improved Shield Wall and all so that already makes me immune to direct knockdowns. Is it like spell resistance, where it helps increase the chances of completely missing a physical hit? Or is it like armor, where it reduces the damage of a physical hit? Does it help with avoiding stuns, or is that mental resistance?
It helps prevent knockdown and physical-based stuns, like from Dirty Fighting.
I'd say it's very important for tanks, there's nothing like taking a ram from an Ogre and not even flinching.
I knew about it resisting Knockback and Stuns, but are you saying it'll also resist Knockbacks? Like you get rammed by the Ogre and don't even move with high enough Physical Resistance?
In games like these you pretty much have to assume that what you see of a tribe/town/whatever is always a representative sample instead of the whole thing.
Dunno if this has been covered already, but uh... anyone know the deal with physical resistance? Is it an important stat for tanking? I've got 80ish right now and I'm not sure if I want to stack anymore. Is it just for avoiding stuff like knockdowns? I have improved Shield Wall and all so that already makes me immune to direct knockdowns. Is it like spell resistance, where it helps increase the chances of completely missing a physical hit? Or is it like armor, where it reduces the damage of a physical hit? Does it help with avoiding stuns, or is that mental resistance?
It helps prevent knockdown and physical-based stuns, like from Dirty Fighting.
I'd say it's very important for tanks, there's nothing like taking a ram from an Ogre and not even flinching.
I knew about it resisting Knockback and Stuns, but are you saying it'll also resist Knockbacks? Like you get rammed by the Ogre and don't even move with high enough Physical Resistance?
Yep. My MC has ridiculously high physical resistance (mostly due to some armor I cooked up with the Winter Forge mod :P) and she doesn't move an inch when an ogre rams her.
In games like these you pretty much have to assume that what you see of a tribe/town/whatever is always a representative sample instead of the whole thing.
Right. I'd also assume there are more than 20 people in the "overcrowded" alienage.
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You'd think an immortal leader would have a somewhat bigger tribe than like, 30 people though.
And you'd think Denerim's market square would have more than 20 people in it.
IT'S A VIDEO GAME
That's not exactly fair. Denerim's market square actually gives you the impression that it is much bigger then what you see. The Dalish camp on the other hand does not. In fact I think the Dalish clans are supposed to be real small anyway. They are a dying breed. Not dying as a race, just a way of life.
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You'd think an immortal leader would have a somewhat bigger tribe than like, 30 people though.
And you'd think Denerim's market square would have more than 20 people in it.
IT'S A VIDEO GAME
That's not exactly fair. Denerim's market square actually gives you the impression that it is much bigger then what you see. The Dalish camp on the other hand does not. In fact I think the Dalish clans are supposed to be real small anyway. They are a dying breed. Not dying as a race, just a way of life.
Not really. If you look at the map of Denerim, that's pretty much the whole thing.
It doesn't matter anyway, they're not going to go through the trouble of rendering big crowds of people that aren't important. This isn't Assassin's Creed.
In games like these you pretty much have to assume that what you see of a tribe/town/whatever is always a representative sample instead of the whole thing.
Right. I'd also assume there are more than 20 people in the "overcrowded" alienage.
How bout the overcrowded tavern in Lothering? With, ya know... a single room for booking. Kinda makes it easy to fill to capacity.
The fact that zatharian is the one guy who has apparently found the elven fountain of youth should make him even more suspicious
And maybe it did, two hundred years ago or whatever. That's two hundred years he's had to quell such suspicions and install himself as "just a fact of life" as far as his people are concerned.
You'd think an immortal leader would have a somewhat bigger tribe than like, 30 people though.
And you'd think Denerim's market square would have more than 20 people in it.
IT'S A VIDEO GAME
That's not exactly fair. Denerim's market square actually gives you the impression that it is much bigger then what you see. The Dalish camp on the other hand does not. In fact I think the Dalish clans are supposed to be real small anyway. They are a dying breed. Not dying as a race, just a way of life.
I pictured them as existing in a series of camps like that a few miles apart, like real-world tribal societies. Like, there might not be more than a few families in a given encampment, but there are probably three or four other camps within a couple hours walk.
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hold your head high soldier, it ain't over yet
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
Also I never really got the impression that the Dalish are dying off. They've been winging it in their own style for about 700 years now and the clans seem to be doing okay, avoiding conflict for the most part. Apparently they're also pretty welcome in Rivain and thrive there.
So I got home from thanksgiving today and decided on a whim to test unarmed combat on my dual weapon bard/assassin rogue.
...why is it hitting 2-3 times as hard as my sword / dagger combo?
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You'd think an immortal leader would have a somewhat bigger tribe than like, 30 people though.
And you'd think Denerim's market square would have more than 20 people in it.
IT'S A VIDEO GAME
That's not exactly fair. Denerim's market square actually gives you the impression that it is much bigger then what you see. The Dalish camp on the other hand does not. In fact I think the Dalish clans are supposed to be real small anyway. They are a dying breed. Not dying as a race, just a way of life.
Not really. If you look at the map of Denerim, that's pretty much the whole thing.
It doesn't matter anyway, they're not going to go through the trouble of rendering big crowds of people that aren't important. This isn't Assassin's Creed.
The market square has tons of houses in it though to give the illusion that a lot of people live there. The Dalish camp does not do this, but it's really not supposed to since there aren't many in the clan to begin with.
Lore wise, I would be surprised if Zatharan's clan was more then 100-150 people.
Also I never really got the impression that the Dalish are dying off. They've been winging it in their own style for about 700 years now and the clans seem to be doing okay, avoiding conflict for the most part. Apparently they're also pretty welcome in Rivain and thrive there.
I may be mistaken, but I think it was mentioned that there used to be a lot more clans then there are now.
edit 2- I should point out that when I say the Dalish are a dying breed, I mean the ones in Ferelden and not Thedas as a whole.
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at least loghain has a reason that sort of makes sense for saying that
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
We should help the villagers
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[persuade]helping the villagers is a good idea
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I disagree with pretty much...all of these. Isolde, Cauthrien, and Jowan are all objectively mistaken people but in perfectly believable fashions. They make very human mistakes.
As for the Dalish I'm not even sure what you're referring to.
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However my computer keeps crashing in the Wilds at Ostragon and I have no idea why my card is a Radeon 3870 it just stops displaying and my monitor shuts off and I have to reboot.
This happen to anyone else?
"Well, I guess you can murder my family then."
So here's my issue with this:
Later on, when he confronts you at Arl Eamon's estate at Denerim, he yells at you for calling a Landsmeet during a full on Blight.
You have NO IDEA how much I wanted to call him on his bullshit right there. Why there wasn't a "OH! So NOW you agree it's a Blight? Too bad you didn't agree back at Ostegar, you know, when we COULD HAVE STOPPED THIS THING HAD YOU NOT PULLED AWAY LIKE A COWARD!" dialogue choice.
I agree that the Intimidate options are a lot more to the point and well written - I mean, that's basically what you're doing - cutting past all the bullshit and outright threatening them. Persuade tells to be weaker, but some of them are pretty slick. And then there's the rare (Cunning) that pops up every now and then...
She's not just a stooge. She knows Loghain is a horrible person, but she's been living in denial and rationalizing everything whether Loghain deserves that or not. She feels like she owes him everything and has tried to convince herself that he's done everything right.
They're all so incredibly unaware of what's going on around them that it strains believability. Jowan is sort of believeable, but even then, when you're in redcliffe and he unloads the "this has all gone so wrong" line or however it went, it's more absurdly funny that anything else.
I include the elves because apparently they just blindly follow their leader in every situation, even when presented with evidence that he's an asshole
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
Yes.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Actually, I find Cauthrien to be very believable. Their are plenty of people in real life who will follow people they respect even when they don't agree with them.
Still being kind of incredibly non-specific here. I can't debate this point without taking apart the entire topic because I still don't know what specific actions you're referring to.
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And the elves have a couple of briefish dialogues or quests in which it's made clear that they never question zatharian about anything, ever. Even the dude whose wife is a werewolf is all "no, can't bring it up with the leader even though he lied to me, that would be rude.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
In regards to the Dalish:
I attributed the Dalish' blind following of Zathrian to the fact that they'd been f'd over so much in the past that they placed him on an amazingly high pedestal for the fact that he was not only their Keeper, but appeared to have been the first Elf to regain his immortality. Because of this, he means everything to him. But that's another strike against the Elves because none of them really give a shit when you come back from the forest without Zathrian. His first just takes over and everyone just goes on their way.
What should have happened was that the Elves should have gone ballistic, captured your party and threatened your life for once again taking away something important to them. You should have had to fight your way out, or get assistance from the elves you helped earlier to convince the rest of the Clan not to kill you. They should have been portrayed as a desperate people, clinging onto their traditions at any and all cost - that would have been much more interesting.
Actually, the Dalish seem the most generic and characterless than any of the other races. Perhaps it's because they willingly isolate themselves and, unlike the dwarves, there's no intrigue and barely any humor during your mission there. Well, I take that back - there is some humor involved, but to see it you have to be a giant asshole when it comes to Cammen's problem...
It might be difficult considering they're basically in a constant state of war with the entire world, but it would be interesting.
Kinda sucks.
Same here, I also got terrible loads all over Orzammar.
Must be all that magma.
Isolde is a mother. Irrationality where matters concern her child goes with the territory, especially when your child is born with ultra dangerous super powers that will almost certainly kill his hopes at a normal life. And probably mean he'll be taken away from her for 80% of his life.
The elves...have no reason to question Zathrian? He's been an effective leader for centuries by all accounts.
Also I do feel that the Dalish as a culture are woefully underdeveloped. Given Arl Foreshadow's notes though I expect elves to see some more loving in the next game. I mean, there's just a lot of questions that could have interesting answers. What is Dalish faith really like? How do they reconcile worshipping ultra fallible Creators which by their own mythology are all securely sealed away?
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It helps prevent knockdown and physical-based stuns, like from Dirty Fighting.
I'd say it's very important for tanks, there's nothing like taking a ram from an Ogre and not even flinching.
And you'd think Denerim's market square would have more than 20 people in it.
IT'S A VIDEO GAME
I knew about it resisting Knockback and Stuns, but are you saying it'll also resist Knockbacks? Like you get rammed by the Ogre and don't even move with high enough Physical Resistance?
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Huh. Well, like I said... I've got 80 and I have no idea if that's a good amount or not. It's not a percentage so... it could be 80/100 or 80/800.
Yep. My MC has ridiculously high physical resistance (mostly due to some armor I cooked up with the Winter Forge mod :P) and she doesn't move an inch when an ogre rams her.
Right. I'd also assume there are more than 20 people in the "overcrowded" alienage.
That's not exactly fair. Denerim's market square actually gives you the impression that it is much bigger then what you see. The Dalish camp on the other hand does not. In fact I think the Dalish clans are supposed to be real small anyway. They are a dying breed. Not dying as a race, just a way of life.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
Not really. If you look at the map of Denerim, that's pretty much the whole thing.
It doesn't matter anyway, they're not going to go through the trouble of rendering big crowds of people that aren't important. This isn't Assassin's Creed.
How bout the overcrowded tavern in Lothering? With, ya know... a single room for booking. Kinda makes it easy to fill to capacity.
And maybe it did, two hundred years ago or whatever. That's two hundred years he's had to quell such suspicions and install himself as "just a fact of life" as far as his people are concerned.
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I pictured them as existing in a series of camps like that a few miles apart, like real-world tribal societies. Like, there might not be more than a few families in a given encampment, but there are probably three or four other camps within a couple hours walk.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
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The market square has tons of houses in it though to give the illusion that a lot of people live there. The Dalish camp does not do this, but it's really not supposed to since there aren't many in the clan to begin with.
Lore wise, I would be surprised if Zatharan's clan was more then 100-150 people.
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I may be mistaken, but I think it was mentioned that there used to be a lot more clans then there are now.
edit 2- I should point out that when I say the Dalish are a dying breed, I mean the ones in Ferelden and not Thedas as a whole.