Because MW2 maps are composed of corridors inside a 100m x 100m space, hella occlusion going on there.
Once I have a key, do I have to tie it to an EA account?
Yes.
As for the bullet drop - It is indeed true, you need to take into account the distance of your shot. The assault rifles seem to be good for up to 30m before it starts to get really bad. Plus recoil has a big part to play now too.
Also the lack of going prone HASNT been missed by me. You are on the move so much in the game, and all prone would do is make bunny hopping easier.
That disappoints me for the realism mods in the future, like Project Reality, where the game is slowed down to a slower, more believable pace and going prone for firing and cover is vital. Ah well. There's always BF3.
Still, I'm sure this will be enjoyable. I'll reserve judgment about lack of prone when I get in the game, but it's likely I'll agree with you considering the game's fast-paced nature.
I do have a few gripes with the game... Such as the server browser. There is no sorting of any kind, so you cannot sort by LATENCY or PLAYERS. What the crap? That's something QUAKE could do, and we cannot in this game? They need to add that.
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One hour, 43 minutes remaining. WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG?
Can you browse servers or is it matchmaking at this point? EDIT: Apparently I'm a slow typist.
Have any of you tried planting c4 all over a truck and slamming it head on into a building as you roll out the side and press detonate like the coolest, most destructive motherfucker alive? (9/11 has nothing on my shit. Hurrah for the Jihad Jeep)
there's no prone? i'm kinda glad. all previous games have been full of people hitting the deck IMMEDIATELY whenever a firefight starts. like two dudes turn a corner and see each other and their first reaction is not to fire but to jump on the ground while shooting. it's silly
Because MW2 maps are composed of corridors inside a 100m x 100m space, hella occlusion going on there.
Once I have a key, do I have to tie it to an EA account?
Yes.
As for the bullet drop - It is indeed true, you need to take into account the distance of your shot. The assault rifles seem to be good for up to 30m before it starts to get really bad. Plus recoil has a big part to play now too.
Also the lack of going prone HASNT been missed by me. You are on the move so much in the game, and all prone would do is make bunny hopping easier.
That disappoints me for the realism mods in the future, like Project Reality, where the game is slowed down to a slower, more believable pace and going prone for firing and cover is vital. Ah well. There's always BF3.
Still, I'm sure this will be enjoyable. I'll reserve judgment about lack of prone when I get in the game, but it's likely I'll agree with you considering the game's fast-paced nature.
Someone said in the thread that there won't be any SDK's for BC2, so this was never going to be possible
Noticeable bullet drop at 30m? I'll have to get used to that, I'm used to more realistic values thanks to ARMA II.
Edit: As for going prone, in ARMA II it's done nicely, you can't shoot while going down prone, and it's not an instant belly flop.
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there's no prone? i'm kinda glad. all previous games have been full of people hitting the deck IMMEDIATELY whenever a firefight starts. like two dudes turn a corner and see each other and their first reaction is not to fire but to jump on the ground while shooting. it's silly
actually they would jump INTO the air and GO PRONE MID-AIR WHILE FIRING.
and that "going prone immediately" shit also exists in MW2 and I hate the game for it.
Because MW2 maps are composed of corridors inside a 100m x 100m space, hella occlusion going on there.
Once I have a key, do I have to tie it to an EA account?
Yes.
As for the bullet drop - It is indeed true, you need to take into account the distance of your shot. The assault rifles seem to be good for up to 30m before it starts to get really bad. Plus recoil has a big part to play now too.
Also the lack of going prone HASNT been missed by me. You are on the move so much in the game, and all prone would do is make bunny hopping easier.
That disappoints me for the realism mods in the future, like Project Reality, where the game is slowed down to a slower, more believable pace and going prone for firing and cover is vital. Ah well. There's always BF3.
Still, I'm sure this will be enjoyable. I'll reserve judgment about lack of prone when I get in the game, but it's likely I'll agree with you considering the game's fast-paced nature.
Someone said in the thread that there won't be any SDK's for BC2, so this was never going to be possible
Noticeable bullet drop at 30m? I'll have to get used to that, I'm used to more realistic values thanks to ARMA II.
Edit: As for going prone, in ARMA II it's done nicely, you can't shoot while going down prone, and it's not an instant belly flop.
Dont quote me to much on the 30m.. I was too busy getting shot at to REALLY see how far it was. But I couldn't just spray bullets from a long distance and kill everything. I had to fire is bursts and readjust for terrain.
I didn't do too much sniping, and I honestly cannot tell if it is hard in the game because it was laggy for me. People would hitch-rubberband a lot. However the scope is not always clear, and it's cloudy, so you won't see everything, mainly just what you are shooting at.
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there's no prone? i'm kinda glad. all previous games have been full of people hitting the deck IMMEDIATELY whenever a firefight starts. like two dudes turn a corner and see each other and their first reaction is not to fire but to jump on the ground while shooting. it's silly
actually they would jump INTO the air and GO PRONE MID-AIR WHILE FIRING.
and that "going prone immediately" shit also exists in MW2 and I hate the game for it.
watching guys do that over and over
it's like a ballet
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there's no prone? i'm kinda glad. all previous games have been full of people hitting the deck IMMEDIATELY whenever a firefight starts. like two dudes turn a corner and see each other and their first reaction is not to fire but to jump on the ground while shooting. it's silly
actually they would jump INTO the air and GO PRONE MID-AIR WHILE FIRING.
and that "going prone immediately" shit also exists in MW2 and I hate the game for it.
One hour, 43 minutes remaining. WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG?
Can you browse servers or is it matchmaking at this point?
There is a normal server browser as well as matchmaking. Unfortunately, like DigitalSyn said the latency field is non-functional at this point so it's very hard to find a good server. Also, currently there is something down on EA's end and no one can play.
I haven't noticed bullet drop to be that extreme, at least with the engineer's SMG -- I couldn't hit some guys probably 150m away but other than that it seemed pretty accurate. Firing in bursts, of course.
Edit: I wish there was prone so I could hide from tanks more easily, but overall it's better not having it.
there's no prone? i'm kinda glad. all previous games have been full of people hitting the deck IMMEDIATELY whenever a firefight starts. like two dudes turn a corner and see each other and their first reaction is not to fire but to jump on the ground while shooting. it's silly
actually they would jump INTO the air and GO PRONE MID-AIR WHILE FIRING.
and that "going prone immediately" shit also exists in MW2 and I hate the game for it.
also, I'm going to wait to DL this... I'm not ready to let go of my MW2, but soon...
I also have a Macbook Pro running Bootcamp and wondering how ppl think it will run. (MW2 ran great, though it actually overheated my cpu a few times....)
I also have a Macbook Pro running Bootcamp and wondering how ppl think it will run. (MW2 ran great, though it actually overheated my cpu a few times....)
Edit: I wish there was prone so I could hide from tanks more easily, but overall it's better not having it.
prone should be in the game, it should just be on a big cooldown and have significant drawbacks such as momentary immobilization
Agreed completely. The issue with BF2 is that going prone offers an immediate reduction in cone of fire and recoil, but you suffer little to no immobilization. The reality is, you should have a brief increase in cone of fire and recoil before it reduces once you are on the ground, and it should take some time to get back on your feet and sprinting.
I read somewhere that they were specifically adding prone in to BC2 PC, but would be excluding it from console versions. I hope this hasn't changed and this is just a beta issue!
there's no prone? i'm kinda glad. all previous games have been full of people hitting the deck IMMEDIATELY whenever a firefight starts. like two dudes turn a corner and see each other and their first reaction is not to fire but to jump on the ground while shooting. it's silly
This is the great benefit of having no prone. Dolphin diving / snap-prone shooting was extremely annoying, over powered, and cheap as a tactic and I'm glad that's not going to be a problem.
Sucks about probably no SDK for BC2, but this really wasn't high on my list of anticipated titles. I'm still holding out on BF3, mainly as far as BF games go.
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My game crashes when I click on Server Browser. It says something about loading with that little spinning dial graphic-thingy, and then it pauses and *POOF*: Crash to Desktop. Also, the game starts windowed for some reason. All I have to do is click on it and it loads full-screen, no problem, but it's still weird.
Does anyone have a download link that isn't super slow? If I got a good one it'd probably finish before the download I have going right now, even though it's up to 67%.
Does anyone have a download link that isn't super slow? If I got a good one it'd probably finish before the download I have going right now, even though it's up to 67%.
I do have a few gripes with the game... Such as the server browser. There is no sorting of any kind, so you cannot sort by LATENCY or PLAYERS. What the crap? That's something QUAKE could do, and we cannot in this game? They need to add that.
Why is everyone treating this as if it's a full release product? It's a beta, it's going to be buggy and it's most certainly feature incomplete. Man they already said on the blog that the server browser was going to be barebones and that the full release game's server browser will be different.
@ Warcry: Man, get some sleep and stop acting so hyper.
I downloaded it super-quick through bit torrent, but I found the .torrent file on a site I dare not link for fear of getting banned. I recommend doing a search on the official BF forums for it.
Really all they had to do was add a substantial penalty for diving... like not being able to shoot, a significant delay between diving and being able to aim again, and it taking 2 or 3 seconds to stand up again and also not being able to shoot while getting up.
I think that if it was done that way the tactic could be used as it would in the real world. Red Orchestra and Day of Defeat are probably the only games to ever get prone right.
Played a few rounds on 360 as I couldn't find a pc key.
It's pretty fun, I actually got into a decent game where everyone didn't go recon for a change and people knew how to drive. The destructable stuff is good, didn't do much as I was playing medic, but being able to sneak around the back of an enemies base and cut in a hole in the fence rather than finding one doesn't sound like much but makes a big difference.
Really all they had to do was add a substantial penalty for diving... like not being able to shoot, a significant delay between diving and being able to aim again, and it taking 2 or 3 seconds to stand up again and also not being able to shoot while getting up.
I think that if it was done that way the tactic could be used as it would in the real world. Red Orchestra and Day of Defeat are probably the only games to ever get prone right.
This was done to some degree in Project Reality mod for Battlefield 2.
Really I just can't wait to shoot through some walls. Destructible shit is my favourite thing in any game, and why I still think Black is one of the coolest console shooters ever made.
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My game crashes when I click on Server Browser. It says something about loading with that little spinning dial graphic-thingy, and then it pauses and *POOF*: Crash to Desktop. Also, the game starts windowed for some reason. All I have to do is click on it and it loads full-screen, no problem, but it's still weird.
This is happening to almost everyone and they're working on it
so I'm still kind of unclear on this point: Will you need a free beta key if you pre-ordered through steam? Once you've downloaded the beta client off of steam will you still need a key in order to play?
Yes, apparently. There is some serious butthurt going on in /v/ due to it.
That's because that is fucking stupid and was mentioned nowhere at all on the steam purchase page.
Really? Are people that fucking stupid?
Lets take this one step at a time here. By what method would you check the CD key on any Steam game you have downloaded? Are you following me? Do you see what I'm trying to tell you?
Also, havent been able to play because I get CTD whenever I look at the server browser....
The cd key even pops up when you launch the game. You have to check the box "don't show me this ever again" for it to stop throwing it in your face every time you launch the game.
so I'm still kind of unclear on this point: Will you need a free beta key if you pre-ordered through steam? Once you've downloaded the beta client off of steam will you still need a key in order to play?
Yes, apparently. There is some serious butthurt going on in /v/ due to it.
That's because that is fucking stupid and was mentioned nowhere at all on the steam purchase page.
Really? Are people that fucking stupid?
Lets take this one step at a time here. By what method would you check the CD key on any Steam game you have downloaded? Are you following me? Do you see what I'm trying to tell you?
Also, havent been able to play because I get CTD whenever I look at the server browser....
Oh, hey, that was resolved 7 pages ago but thanks for clearing it up for us
I quite enjoyed my few rounds in the Xbox 360 demo. There's nothing like coming up behind 3 snipers and then knifing all three one right after another. And then doing it to the one one floor up. Oh, the rage as all four hunted me down. I quite like my collection of (now) 5 dogtags.
Also had another round where I manned a stationary MG that overlooked the approach to our base. I spent the time between shooting mans and spotting tanks to start removing the tree cover they were using to snipe from and slowly advance through. I am anti-green.
Fun fun fun times.
Sound is excellent, using the Engineer Repair Gun to RIP a tank apart is soooooo funny, and it plays pretty quick for the most part.
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My game crashes when I click on Server Browser. It says something about loading with that little spinning dial graphic-thingy, and then it pauses and *POOF*: Crash to Desktop. Also, the game starts windowed for some reason. All I have to do is click on it and it loads full-screen, no problem, but it's still weird.
This is happening to almost everyone and they're working on it
I'm actually relieved to hear that it's happening to other people, heh. I was hoping it wasn't something to do with my computer security setup since I wasn't in the tinkering mood. Oh well. There's plenty of time to play this in next few weeks, and I'm sure all the kinks will be smoothed out relatively soon.
Still, I do wish semi-open betas like this were better organized.
I quite enjoyed my few rounds in the Xbox 360 demo. There's nothing like coming up behind 3 snipers and then knifing all three one right after another. And then doing it to the one one floor up. Oh, the rage as all four hunted me down. I quite like my collection of (now) 5 dogtags.
Also had another round where I manned a stationary MG that overlooked the approach to our base. I spent the time between shooting mans and spotting tanks to start removing the tree cover they were using to snipe from and slowly advance through. I am anti-green.
Fun fun fun times.
Sound is excellent, using the Engineer Repair Gun to RIP a tank apart is soooooo funny, and it plays pretty quick for the most part.
Recommended.
How long did it take to download the demo? Do you have access to all classes/loadouts? How many maps?
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That disappoints me for the realism mods in the future, like Project Reality, where the game is slowed down to a slower, more believable pace and going prone for firing and cover is vital. Ah well. There's always BF3.
Still, I'm sure this will be enjoyable. I'll reserve judgment about lack of prone when I get in the game, but it's likely I'll agree with you considering the game's fast-paced nature.
Yeah I want the crouch to be a toggle and the sights to not be a toggle.
Also I'd like for the game to stop crashing after I played for an hour without any problems.
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Can you browse servers or is it matchmaking at this point? EDIT: Apparently I'm a slow typist.
Have any of you tried planting c4 all over a truck and slamming it head on into a building as you roll out the side and press detonate like the coolest, most destructive motherfucker alive? (9/11 has nothing on my shit. Hurrah for the Jihad Jeep)
Is sniping actually hard in this?
Someone said in the thread that there won't be any SDK's for BC2, so this was never going to be possible
Noticeable bullet drop at 30m? I'll have to get used to that, I'm used to more realistic values thanks to ARMA II.
Edit: As for going prone, in ARMA II it's done nicely, you can't shoot while going down prone, and it's not an instant belly flop.
actually they would jump INTO the air and GO PRONE MID-AIR WHILE FIRING.
and that "going prone immediately" shit also exists in MW2 and I hate the game for it.
Dont quote me to much on the 30m.. I was too busy getting shot at to REALLY see how far it was. But I couldn't just spray bullets from a long distance and kill everything. I had to fire is bursts and readjust for terrain.
I didn't do too much sniping, and I honestly cannot tell if it is hard in the game because it was laggy for me. People would hitch-rubberband a lot. However the scope is not always clear, and it's cloudy, so you won't see everything, mainly just what you are shooting at.
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watching guys do that over and over
it's like a ballet
it's actually called "dolphin diving".
it is kind of a douchebag artform.
There is a normal server browser as well as matchmaking. Unfortunately, like DigitalSyn said the latency field is non-functional at this point so it's very hard to find a good server. Also, currently there is something down on EA's end and no one can play.
I haven't noticed bullet drop to be that extreme, at least with the engineer's SMG -- I couldn't hit some guys probably 150m away but other than that it seemed pretty accurate. Firing in bursts, of course.
Edit: I wish there was prone so I could hide from tanks more easily, but overall it's better not having it.
that name is hilarious
so is this google result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_snSNg7MPE
prone should be in the game, it should just be on a big cooldown and have significant drawbacks such as momentary immobilization
also, I'm going to wait to DL this... I'm not ready to let go of my MW2, but soon...
I also have a Macbook Pro running Bootcamp and wondering how ppl think it will run. (MW2 ran great, though it actually overheated my cpu a few times....)
Yeah, it's doing that for everyone. Something on their end is broken at the moment.
yes, inquiring minds want to know
Agreed completely. The issue with BF2 is that going prone offers an immediate reduction in cone of fire and recoil, but you suffer little to no immobilization. The reality is, you should have a brief increase in cone of fire and recoil before it reduces once you are on the ground, and it should take some time to get back on your feet and sprinting.
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No, not even once will that happen.
Although I've got give them credit for making a game that crashes so smoothly.
This is the great benefit of having no prone. Dolphin diving / snap-prone shooting was extremely annoying, over powered, and cheap as a tactic and I'm glad that's not going to be a problem.
Sucks about probably no SDK for BC2, but this really wasn't high on my list of anticipated titles. I'm still holding out on BF3, mainly as far as BF games go.
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My game crashes when I click on Server Browser. It says something about loading with that little spinning dial graphic-thingy, and then it pauses and *POOF*: Crash to Desktop. Also, the game starts windowed for some reason. All I have to do is click on it and it loads full-screen, no problem, but it's still weird.
I'd also like to know a good DL link pls!
Why is everyone treating this as if it's a full release product? It's a beta, it's going to be buggy and it's most certainly feature incomplete. Man they already said on the blog that the server browser was going to be barebones and that the full release game's server browser will be different.
@ Warcry: Man, get some sleep and stop acting so hyper.
I think that if it was done that way the tactic could be used as it would in the real world. Red Orchestra and Day of Defeat are probably the only games to ever get prone right.
It's pretty fun, I actually got into a decent game where everyone didn't go recon for a change and people knew how to drive. The destructable stuff is good, didn't do much as I was playing medic, but being able to sneak around the back of an enemies base and cut in a hole in the fence rather than finding one doesn't sound like much but makes a big difference.
Also medic is still the best class.
This was done to some degree in Project Reality mod for Battlefield 2.
This is happening to almost everyone and they're working on it
Really? Are people that fucking stupid?
Lets take this one step at a time here. By what method would you check the CD key on any Steam game you have downloaded? Are you following me? Do you see what I'm trying to tell you?
Also, havent been able to play because I get CTD whenever I look at the server browser....
Oh, hey, that was resolved 7 pages ago but thanks for clearing it up for us
Also had another round where I manned a stationary MG that overlooked the approach to our base. I spent the time between shooting mans and spotting tanks to start removing the tree cover they were using to snipe from and slowly advance through. I am anti-green.
Fun fun fun times.
Sound is excellent, using the Engineer Repair Gun to RIP a tank apart is soooooo funny, and it plays pretty quick for the most part.
Recommended.
I'm actually relieved to hear that it's happening to other people, heh. I was hoping it wasn't something to do with my computer security setup since I wasn't in the tinkering mood. Oh well. There's plenty of time to play this in next few weeks, and I'm sure all the kinks will be smoothed out relatively soon.
Still, I do wish semi-open betas like this were better organized.
How long did it take to download the demo? Do you have access to all classes/loadouts? How many maps?