I hope the engineer's automatic guns get tweaked before the game comes out. Right now they feel overly spastic to me; even shooting while crouched causes the sights to jitter around way more than they should. It's understandable for the assault's rifle to have tons of recoil, but a silenced submachine gun shouldn't be nearly so hard to corral.
Too true. I'd like to see more distance put on the gun's for Engineers as well. Feels futile to even shoot at anything that's over 20 feet away from you. Why can't Engineers have that luxury?
What are you talking about?
I nail people from far off all the time with me SCAR Carbine.
I hope the engineer's automatic guns get tweaked before the game comes out. Right now they feel overly spastic to me; even shooting while crouched causes the sights to jitter around way more than they should. It's understandable for the assault's rifle to have tons of recoil, but a silenced submachine gun shouldn't be nearly so hard to corral.
Too true. I'd like to see more distance put on the gun's for Engineers as well. Feels futile to even shoot at anything that's over 20 feet away from you. Why can't Engineers have that luxury?
What are you talking about?
I nail people from far off all the time with me SCAR Carbine.
I can kill enemies at a distance with the Assault and Medic Classes with general ease.
The moment I try to do so with the Engineer, it's like the bullets don't even exist.
I hope the engineer's automatic guns get tweaked before the game comes out. Right now they feel overly spastic to me; even shooting while crouched causes the sights to jitter around way more than they should. It's understandable for the assault's rifle to have tons of recoil, but a silenced submachine gun shouldn't be nearly so hard to corral.
Too true. I'd like to see more distance put on the gun's for Engineers as well. Feels futile to even shoot at anything that's over 20 feet away from you. Why can't Engineers have that luxury?
What are you talking about?
I nail people from far off all the time with me SCAR Carbine.
I've managed fine even with the default gun.
Although admittedly these days I prefer to roll shotgun with my engy.
EDIT: And Assualt is supposed to have an easier time of aiming and firing compared to engineer and medic. I tried Assault a couple of times and it almost felt like easy mode to down people coming off of those two.
I had the best match of my life devolve into the worst match of my life last night, on the 360.
In the first section of the map, my team easily took out A but had a really, really hard time taking out B. I did some scouting and found out that pretty much the ENTIRE enemy team was snipers and were on top of the construction site overlooking B. They even had a medic or two up there reviving them. They were doing a really good job of pinning down my entire team.
So I broke out my recon kit and snuck up on the right flank, opposite the B pit, until I had an oblique view on the construction site. I found some good cover and got to work with my Type 88. I was picking them off so quickly that eventually they stopped sniping and started running around like crazy trying to avoid my bullets. I sniped until I ran out of ammo, by which point my team secured B and it was time to move up.
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My team then proceeded to be the biggest bunch of pricks on the face of the planet. Dedicated sniper squads are bad enough, but what I witnessed was dedicated sniper squads combined with a BMP driver and tank drivers who were dueling for "pussy of the year" awards on the road leading to the next map section. They had actually got into a traffic jam on the road because they were too busy trying to shell from a distance and not move up. I broke out the Engineer kit to make a big show of repairing them as if to say, "It's okay! Grow a spine! I'll help you!" Somehow, that prompted them to retreat backwards after the enemy T-90 showed up and dented their pwecious armor.
I got fed up and joined another server as the defenders, only to spawn with a squad mate in the Blackhawk who wasn't actually using the Blackhawk to do anything other than circle the Apache helipad, waiting for it to spawn. Guess how long before we got shot down?
Also on Engineers, is anyone else incredibly frustrated by the fact that after you fire an RPG, it doesn't automatically take you out of iron sights?
It's such a pain. I just want to fire my RPG and get the fuck out of the area before the tank decides to look my way.
Wait... are your iron sights staying up even when you don't have the button pushed down? Like its a toggle?
Yeah. It's been some terribly annoying crap. I would have preferred if they made crouching the toggle, not the iron sights.
Can you change it? That'd be fantastic.
On the console versions, it's just keeps them up when you have the button pressed. I can't imagine it would be that hard for them to make it the same on the PC.
Also on Engineers, is anyone else incredibly frustrated by the fact that after you fire an RPG, it doesn't automatically take you out of iron sights?
It's such a pain. I just want to fire my RPG and get the fuck out of the area before the tank decides to look my way.
Wait... are your iron sights staying up even when you don't have the button pushed down? Like its a toggle?
Yeah. It's been some terribly annoying crap. I would have preferred if they made crouching the toggle, not the iron sights.
Can you change it? That'd be fantastic.
On the console versions, it's just keeps them up when you have the button pressed. I can't imagine it would be that hard for them to make it the same on the PC.
Man. It's like the PC Beta has less going for it than the Console Demo's got.
As for Tank Drivers: Nothing makes me scratch my head like players who willingly drive a tank with less than 20 HP deep into the enemy territory. Why. Would. You. Do. That.
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Guys with Nvidia cards, go check for updates right now. They've brought out a few drivers to deal with BC2 and it runs really well now. About a constant 45fps with all high, 1280 x 1024 and 4xaa.
Has there been any word about a general PC demo after the beta is finished? I know PC betas are not a big priority these days, but I'm still on the fence about what version to buy. If I could see how the PC version runs on my system, it would make the decision a lot easier, but I haven't got a beta key.
@locust9 are there more weapons and gadgets once the game is out because the medic is seriously lacking tank defense he needs demolitions
@Ashtonhz8907 medic never gets demo stuff tho as part of kit weapon progression, you get it as you rank up, mines etc.
Medic getting any anti-tank weapons would be kind of messed up. It's already an incredibly powerful kit. I mean, at that point, why bother having classes?
I honestly believe the medic kit should be nixed and the medic hub/defib should be rolled into the assault kit so that rifle nade spamming gets diminished and the ammo hub/lmg goes to a support class.
Last night I fired a grenade launcher at a guy and it practically landed one inch away from him. He somehow survived with 4% health left and killed me. It feels like BC1 all over again where the assault class sucked.
I for one am I glad the 40mm has been made a tool rather then another piece of kill hardware in this game.
Maybe its CODs bullshit with it or other games making it seems like such a special mega kill weapon.
And I guess that also factors in with the minimal splash damage with the rest of the game. It really keeps out explosive spammers and focus on bullets and firefights which is the most fun.
Its so cool hiding behind a wall trading shots at a guy with you buddy and he launches a 40mm and blows your cover but your still standing and really need to find some new cover.
This is true, and I agree and all, but dammit a grenade should kill someone if it lands within 5 feet of them.
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Medic Kit seemed fine to me in what little time I got to play it. Never had much trouble taking them out and they're screwed if your team makes good use of tanks.
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edited February 2010
Tonight, I got in the gunner seat of the Apache, and the pilot crashed it almost immediately. The next time it spawned, I got in, and the pilot drove it right into the crane, sideways. I got in that fucking gunner seat four times, each time screaming at my retarded teammates NOT to fly the fucking chopper if they don't know how.
I got four replies, one from each retarded 'pilot', berating me that 'they won't learn' if they don't get to fly the chopper. PRACTICE IN A NEARLY EMPTY SERVER THEN, RETARDS, or at least when the attackers aren't totally swarming the harbour.
Anyway, I said fuck it, I'll try my luck at it, it was my first time piloting the goddamn chopper and I managed a five vehicle killstreak, and didn't crash. I figured out pretty quickly to play it safe and not hold W. Cruising around with the mouse, a and d was fine. I didn't even die when I got shot down, I parachuted into their base. Felt like a boss.
EDIT: Oh, and I frapsed something pretty amazing. I was in the T-90, gunner seat, trundling up toward the last point. There was another tank halfway up the hill and just as we turned the corner, the enemy blackhawk came crashing out of the sky, hit the ground in front of the other tank, bounced off it, spinning toward us with the entire thing still intact and the rotors spinning. It either clipped through us, or went just over our heads but it was like fucking movie scene. I'll add it to the montage I'm making.
Whats the parachute button on 360? I haven't really spent enough time in helicopters yet to need it, but it would be good to know.
The same button you jump with I'd assume.
Also: The Apache's secondary gunner seat is a bit overpowered...just press the mouse button with it in the general direction of a group of enemies and bam, double/triple or even quadruple kill.
Tips for using the UAV: You can ascend/descend faster than actually moving side to side or forward/backward. Use them in conjunction and it's pretty easy to stay out of enemy fire. And always make it a point to hide behind cover if it gets too hot.
Speaking of which, can Engineers repair the UAV's? I know they can't really land, but is it possible to float them a few feet above the ground to repair them midair?
I just flew a Apache and after maybe 5 seconds realized how it worked but I got a little excited after I started getting shot at and flew into the sea. I did do some awesome dips where just barely buzzed the roads while firing. I wish I could start a private match and practice.
Anyways I am going to have to preorder this game. Any deals out there?
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Speaking of which, can Engineers repair the UAV's? I know they can't really land, but is it possible to float them a few feet above the ground to repair them midair?
Yes they can. It is the most hilarious of things to see happen.
Though, on Live at least, you gotta have a friend do it, as the silly geese you get matchmade with are to busy being silent sniping bushes to help.
When you got a good team or even one other guy working together with you, this game is awesome. I just played a match where I scored 4800 and my squadmate scored 4600 on defense. We got pushed all the way back but we held the last objective. The next match he was second overall and I was third, and we rolled through the objectives hilariously quickly. Heck, I think he even spotted. Random xbox live dude, you are awesome.
When you got a good team or even one other guy working together with you, this game is awesome. I just played a match where I scored 4800 and my squadmate scored 4600 on defense. We got pushed all the way back but we held the last objective. The next match he was second overall and I was third, and we rolled through the objectives hilariously quickly. Heck, I think he even spotted. Random xbox live dude, you are awesome.
Love it when you link up with random dudes. Me and another medic were defending the open pit objective on the first section for a good 15-20 minutes, moving around the small stone shack and boxes reviving each other, constantly taking out guys at each other's backs while most of the rest of the team dicked about as recon.
I've only played the betas of both games... but o_O ? What makes Mag superior for you?
I wouldn't argue it, his sig gives a fairly good idea of where this'll go. :P
Because I can play Mag. It's also pretty cool having so many people, even if you don't really see more than you would in the average battlefield match.
The sig is just me being bitter and angry at BC2 for not working. I'd self-identify as a PC gamer, I play probably 90% of my games on it. I do like that with mag my steps to play are 1. put disc in system, 2. play. My steps to try to get BC2 working are labyrinthine and confusing and resemble the anus of cthulhu.
I think I got about 5600 points when a random sat in the MG seat on a tank, spotting and shooting while I hopped in and out of the driver seat and repaired like crazy/shot people in the face with the main gun. The great thing was the random didn't switch seats and drive off while I was repairing, he just protected me with the MG.
I'm on the 360, sent a friend request to the metatag, my GT is L4ZY3YE, I love Engie and I'm always spotting. Shoot me an invite if you see me on. I'll be trading in all my COD's for this.
Even with pubbies, and in a demo, this game is much less rage inducing.
I've only played the betas of both games... but o_O ? What makes Mag superior for you?
I wouldn't argue it, his sig gives a fairly good idea of where this'll go. :P
Because I can play Mag. It's also pretty cool having so many people, even if you don't really see more than you would in the average battlefield match.
The sig is just me being bitter and angry at BC2 for not working. I'd self-identify as a PC gamer, I play probably 90% of my games on it. I do like that with mag my steps to play are 1. put disc in system, 2. play. My steps to try to get BC2 working are labyrinthine and confusing and resemble the anus of cthulhu.
Well PC gaming is a perspective. Only you are in control of the view.
Man, the people who play the Battlefield games are the worst part of them.
I managed to steal the other teams Apache and get away having taken around 60% damage, so I land it to pop out and repair. As I pop out to repair, a squadmate spawns on me and steals the Apache. "Well, okay, I'm a pretty mediocre pilot and he's probably better at it than me" I thought. Twenty seconds later, the Apache is taking a swim in the Bering Sea.
Is there a Steam group? And are there a lot of you guys playing it on PC? People I were planning on playing the 360 version are jumping off it like flies, or are getting it for both platforms. I may as well just change my order (again) to the PC version at this point.
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We should make one if we don't. It'll probably make it a much better experience. Do we have a lot of west coast players? If we do, I might actually rent out a server come release.
Is there a Steam group? And are there a lot of you guys playing it on PC? People I were planning on playing the 360 version are jumping off it like flies, or are getting it for both platforms. I may as well just change my order (again) to the PC version at this point.
I'll be on 360 man. I might be playing AvP for 360 before this come out, but I'll be playing like a maniac once the full release is out.
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Also on Engineers, is anyone else incredibly frustrated by the fact that after you fire an RPG, it doesn't automatically take you out of iron sights?
It's such a pain. I just want to fire my RPG and get the fuck out of the area before the tank decides to look my way.
What are you talking about?
I nail people from far off all the time with me SCAR Carbine.
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I can kill enemies at a distance with the Assault and Medic Classes with general ease.
The moment I try to do so with the Engineer, it's like the bullets don't even exist.
I've managed fine even with the default gun.
Although admittedly these days I prefer to roll shotgun with my engy.
EDIT: And Assualt is supposed to have an easier time of aiming and firing compared to engineer and medic. I tried Assault a couple of times and it almost felt like easy mode to down people coming off of those two.
Wait... are your iron sights staying up even when you don't have the button pushed down? Like its a toggle?
I've only played the betas of both games... but o_O ? What makes Mag superior for you?
On the pee see it is a toggle, with no option to change it. The RPG thing annoys me, too.
I wouldn't argue it, his sig gives a fairly good idea of where this'll go. :P
Yeah. It's been some terribly annoying crap. I would have preferred if they made crouching the toggle, not the iron sights.
Can you change it? That'd be fantastic.
In the first section of the map, my team easily took out A but had a really, really hard time taking out B. I did some scouting and found out that pretty much the ENTIRE enemy team was snipers and were on top of the construction site overlooking B. They even had a medic or two up there reviving them. They were doing a really good job of pinning down my entire team.
So I broke out my recon kit and snuck up on the right flank, opposite the B pit, until I had an oblique view on the construction site. I found some good cover and got to work with my Type 88. I was picking them off so quickly that eventually they stopped sniping and started running around like crazy trying to avoid my bullets. I sniped until I ran out of ammo, by which point my team secured B and it was time to move up.
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My team then proceeded to be the biggest bunch of pricks on the face of the planet. Dedicated sniper squads are bad enough, but what I witnessed was dedicated sniper squads combined with a BMP driver and tank drivers who were dueling for "pussy of the year" awards on the road leading to the next map section. They had actually got into a traffic jam on the road because they were too busy trying to shell from a distance and not move up. I broke out the Engineer kit to make a big show of repairing them as if to say, "It's okay! Grow a spine! I'll help you!" Somehow, that prompted them to retreat backwards after the enemy T-90 showed up and dented their pwecious armor.
I got fed up and joined another server as the defenders, only to spawn with a squad mate in the Blackhawk who wasn't actually using the Blackhawk to do anything other than circle the Apache helipad, waiting for it to spawn. Guess how long before we got shot down?
I was finished for the night after that.
On the console versions, it's just keeps them up when you have the button pressed. I can't imagine it would be that hard for them to make it the same on the PC.
Man. It's like the PC Beta has less going for it than the Console Demo's got.
As for Tank Drivers: Nothing makes me scratch my head like players who willingly drive a tank with less than 20 HP deep into the enemy territory. Why. Would. You. Do. That.
That really is to be expected though. The beta code in itself was already old when it released, and several of the features weren't implemented.
@ Warcry: Thanks, will check that out later when I get back.
I honestly believe the medic kit should be nixed and the medic hub/defib should be rolled into the assault kit so that rifle nade spamming gets diminished and the ammo hub/lmg goes to a support class.
This is true, and I agree and all, but dammit a grenade should kill someone if it lands within 5 feet of them.
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Medic Kit seemed fine to me in what little time I got to play it. Never had much trouble taking them out and they're screwed if your team makes good use of tanks.
UAV is fuckawesome too.
AND THEN you have someone standing behind him, knifing or shooting at him, because they want to use it, too. Argh.
Welcome to Battlefield games. It's tradition.
If you're not spotting with the UAV while shooting you are doing it wrong.
I got four replies, one from each retarded 'pilot', berating me that 'they won't learn' if they don't get to fly the chopper. PRACTICE IN A NEARLY EMPTY SERVER THEN, RETARDS, or at least when the attackers aren't totally swarming the harbour.
Anyway, I said fuck it, I'll try my luck at it, it was my first time piloting the goddamn chopper and I managed a five vehicle killstreak, and didn't crash. I figured out pretty quickly to play it safe and not hold W. Cruising around with the mouse, a and d was fine. I didn't even die when I got shot down, I parachuted into their base. Felt like a boss.
EDIT: Oh, and I frapsed something pretty amazing. I was in the T-90, gunner seat, trundling up toward the last point. There was another tank halfway up the hill and just as we turned the corner, the enemy blackhawk came crashing out of the sky, hit the ground in front of the other tank, bounced off it, spinning toward us with the entire thing still intact and the rotors spinning. It either clipped through us, or went just over our heads but it was like fucking movie scene. I'll add it to the montage I'm making.
On the PC it's the same as the jump button, Not sure if it's the same on 360 but it's worth a shot. I usually just spam Spacebar as i'm falling
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The same button you jump with I'd assume.
Also: The Apache's secondary gunner seat is a bit overpowered...just press the mouse button with it in the general direction of a group of enemies and bam, double/triple or even quadruple kill.
Tips for using the UAV: You can ascend/descend faster than actually moving side to side or forward/backward. Use them in conjunction and it's pretty easy to stay out of enemy fire. And always make it a point to hide behind cover if it gets too hot.
Speaking of which, can Engineers repair the UAV's? I know they can't really land, but is it possible to float them a few feet above the ground to repair them midair?
But yeah, some type of system to keep someone from hoarding the vehicles would be awesome.
Anyways I am going to have to preorder this game. Any deals out there?
Yes they can. It is the most hilarious of things to see happen.
Though, on Live at least, you gotta have a friend do it, as the silly geese you get matchmade with are to busy being silent sniping bushes to help.
You just have to be careful.
Much easier than landing the helicopters, I tell you what
Love it when you link up with random dudes. Me and another medic were defending the open pit objective on the first section for a good 15-20 minutes, moving around the small stone shack and boxes reviving each other, constantly taking out guys at each other's backs while most of the rest of the team dicked about as recon.
Because I can play Mag. It's also pretty cool having so many people, even if you don't really see more than you would in the average battlefield match.
The sig is just me being bitter and angry at BC2 for not working. I'd self-identify as a PC gamer, I play probably 90% of my games on it. I do like that with mag my steps to play are 1. put disc in system, 2. play. My steps to try to get BC2 working are labyrinthine and confusing and resemble the anus of cthulhu.
I'm on the 360, sent a friend request to the metatag, my GT is L4ZY3YE, I love Engie and I'm always spotting. Shoot me an invite if you see me on. I'll be trading in all my COD's for this.
Even with pubbies, and in a demo, this game is much less rage inducing.
Well PC gaming is a perspective. Only you are in control of the view.
I managed to steal the other teams Apache and get away having taken around 60% damage, so I land it to pop out and repair. As I pop out to repair, a squadmate spawns on me and steals the Apache. "Well, okay, I'm a pretty mediocre pilot and he's probably better at it than me" I thought. Twenty seconds later, the Apache is taking a swim in the Bering Sea.
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I'll be on 360 man. I might be playing AvP for 360 before this come out, but I'll be playing like a maniac once the full release is out.