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{[Let's Go to School!]} FALL ADMISSIONS 2010 GO GO GO

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Fandyien wrote: »
    It really does, butters, by merit of the networking you acquire and in terms of finding jobs that require practical application of art skills

    If a company wants an illustrator they are more likely to hire one with a B.F.A. then one without

    Aren't you like 19 how do you know?

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Butters wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    It really does, butters, by merit of the networking you acquire and in terms of finding jobs that require practical application of art skills

    If a company wants an illustrator they are more likely to hire one with a B.F.A. then one without

    Aren't you like 19 how do you know?

    Friends and family and the experiences thereof?

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Koshian wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    Serious question: Does a fine arts degree really open any doors raw artistic talent wouldn't?

    Not really, and I say this as someone who has been through one of these schools.

    The thing is that very few people actually have raw artistic talent.

    What these places will do is give you a crude foundation of what it takes to actually get into the job market.

    It's really on the student to grind out their own portfolio and get off their ass and get hired though.

    The best choice you can make when deciding which of these places to go to is, in order of importance

    1) As advanced and difficult a curriculum as possible, because if you're going to drop 80 grand on an education, you might as well go for the gold

    2) A career placement department with overwhelmingly positive reviews from a 3rd party entity

    3) A good campus with actual equipment


    I would also suggest asking (read: demanding) to sit in on a class or two prior to signing any forms to make sure that the classes aren't just 20 minutes of lecture and 3 hours of "lab time" aka bullshit.


    *edit*, also fandyien is wrong. be suspicious of any employer who would rather take someone with a degree over someone who actually is talented. education is NOT a substitution for talent in the artistic field.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    At this point you're fucking lucky if you drop only 80 grand on your college education.

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    What if you are simultaneously talented and you have a degree

    it would be pretty retarded if you honestly thought a degree was not a plus

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  • humblehumble Registered User
    edited November 2009
    Fandyien wrote: »
    It really does, butters, by merit of the networking you acquire and in terms of finding jobs that require practical application of art skills

    If a company wants an illustrator they are more likely to hire one with a B.F.A. then one without

    beavs got her freelance gig with valve without a degree

    humble on
  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Fandyien wrote: »
    What if you are simultaneously talented and you have a degree

    it would be pretty retarded if you honestly thought a degree was not a plus

    Fandy...not all degrees are useful, okay.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Fandyien wrote: »
    What if you are simultaneously talented and you have a degree

    it would be pretty retarded if you honestly thought a degree was not a plus

    The percentage of people that applies to in the creative fields is probably less than 5%. If anything, most talented artists who have degrees typically have business management/accounting degrees to supplement their business aspirations, NOT to supplement their artistic talents.


    The exception being if they are trying to do a field change, such as an illustrator breaking into web design, etc.

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  • Lord DaveLord Dave Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    isn't this basically completely the wrongest time of year for a "back to school" thread?

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  • humblehumble Registered User
    edited November 2009
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    What if you are simultaneously talented and you have a degree

    it would be pretty retarded if you honestly thought a degree was not a plus

    The percentage of people that applies to in the creative fields is probably less than 5%. If anything, most talented artists who have degrees typically have business management/accounting degrees to supplement their business aspirations, NOT to supplement their artistic talents.


    The exception being if they are trying to do a field change, such as an illustrator breaking into web design, etc.

    i dont think this is true at all

    plus most art schools have classes that teach this stuff to artists

    humble on
  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited November 2009
    Yeah we are much more likely to hire a designer with an amazing portfolio/technical knowledge with a "lesser" degree than one with a decent portfolio and a masters. Unless its an MBA or Masters in ID.

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  • FFFF Once Upon a Time In OaklandRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Honestly, the biggest advantage of going to an art school that I've seen working here, is that by going through school you can end up with a pretty good job right after (or before) you graduate, just via the networking you end up doing as you go to school.

    Either that or (from what I've seen where I work) your teachers/department/school will set you up with good jobs because they want to show others that they can get students placed in high profile places, thus getting more enrollment, more money, etc.

    Basically, if/when you go to art school, kiss a lot of ass.

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  • BarcardiBarcardi All the Wizards Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    FF wrote: »
    Honestly, the biggest advantage of going to an art school that I've seen working here, is that by going through school you can end up with a pretty good job right after (or before) you graduate, just via the networking you end up doing as you go to school.

    Either that or (from what I've seen where I work) your teachers/department/school will set you up with good jobs because they want to show others that they can get students placed in high profile places, thus getting more enrollment, more money, etc.

    Basically, if/when you go to art school, kiss a lot of ass.

    kissing ass got me through architecture school... It is especially key for a thesis of any type. Hell, i have a couple of friends that just got their physics PHDs and jobs from kissing ass.

    Barcardi on
  • vermiculturevermiculture Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I dont think it's too late for me (or you!) to register with the Toronto School of Circus Arts!
    It was a dream of mine for a long time to be in the circus, I ended up with a liberal hippie degree instead.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    FF wrote: »
    Honestly, the biggest advantage of going to an art school that I've seen working here, is that by going through school you can end up with a pretty good job right after (or before) you graduate, just via the networking you end up doing as you go to school.

    Either that or (from what I've seen where I work) your teachers/department/school will set you up with good jobs because they want to show others that they can get students placed in high profile places, thus getting more enrollment, more money, etc.

    Basically, if/when you go to art school, kiss a lot of ass.

    It's almost required, because that's usually the first or second bullet point of any of these schools: WE'LL GET YOU A JOB!!!11

    Most schools have farms of employers that they dump their students into for interns. Most famously, the relationship between Full Sail and EA. Yeah, that works out real well.

    if you want something better you've got to network and/or really sharpen your interview skills.

    Or even better, impress the hell out of any of your professors with obvious business acumen. A lot of professors at these art schools are full time elsewhere, and occasionally as business owners. They teach at the schools to scout cheap talent, and that's the best initiation of all, if they are actually good teachers.

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  • AMP'dAMP'd Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Lord Dave wrote: »
    isn't this basically completely the wrongest time of year for a "back to school" thread?

    Not really, it's college application time

    Speaking of which, who is willing to let me sleep on their couch this spring when I visit colleges?

    Scratch that, who lives somewhere with a college I would be interested in going to?

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  • SwillSwill Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Portland State University
    Lewis and Clark
    University of Oregon
    Oregon State University
    PNCA

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  • AMP'dAMP'd Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    You're forgetting Reed, Liz Lemon, you dumb bitch

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  • SwillSwill Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I did forget that [random string of words]

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  • scrivenerjonesscrivenerjones Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Swill wrote: »
    Portland State University

    go viiiiiiiiiiiiiiiks

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  • SwillSwill Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    atta boy

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  • DryghtenDryghten Registered User
    edited November 2009
    You don't know me, but do not go to Oregon. Duck fans are the worst people.

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  • ZoelZoel I suppose... I'd put it on Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    All degrees are pretty useless in and of themselves.

    People like to piss on others who say they went to college 'for the experience' and got some sort of non-engineering/computer science degree or didn't immediately go into their chosen field, but the vast majority of people aren't actually mature enough at eighteen to just go out, start working, and not get fired for something terribly stupid.

    If anything the main difference between going to college and going into the work force immediately is that you get four years to make mistakes without it immediately impacting your ability to eat.

    Zoel on
    A magician gives you a ring that, when worn, will let you see the world as it truly is.
    However, the ring will never leave your finger, and you will be unable to ever describe to another living person what you see.
  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Zoel, please tell me you're joke posting.

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  • scrivenerjonesscrivenerjones Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    AMP'd wrote: »
    You're forgetting Reed, Liz Lemon, you dumb bitch

    handy flowchart incoming

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  • Chompskers.Chompskers. Registered User
    edited November 2009
    I am very seriously considering transferring.

    Not only that but I am very seriously considering transferring to:
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    Hampshire College


    I have heard the most overwhelmingly mixed reviews about the place though

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  • <3<3 Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I applied to

    Stanford
    Berkeley
    San Diego
    Irvine
    Santa Cruz
    Washington

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  • ZoelZoel I suppose... I'd put it on Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Butters wrote: »
    Zoel, please tell me you're joke posting.

    Why would I be joke posting?

    There weren't any puns there.

    Zoel on
    A magician gives you a ring that, when worn, will let you see the world as it truly is.
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  • MonkeyfeetMonkeyfeet Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    For me college is an opportunity to have the government pay for my food, housing, and learning as I waste it away on an English major/Religion and Psychology minor degree

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  • DryghtenDryghten Registered User
    edited November 2009
    Go to Washington. We boast an impressive list of umm... hmm...

    Did I mention that we're a public ivy

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  • BarcardiBarcardi All the Wizards Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Dryghten wrote: »
    You don't know me, but do not go to Oregon. Duck fans are the worst people.

    bs, its a great party school

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  • RinderRinder Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    UF lost its #1 Party School status.
    Our homecoming queen did get a DUI a few weeks ago so that's a good start for next year!

    Rinder on
  • Chompskers.Chompskers. Registered User
    edited November 2009
    Who is number one now?

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  • BarcardiBarcardi All the Wizards Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Who is number one now?

    Probably Green Bay, it is basically the Jesus of party schools.

    Arizona being the pope, a corrupt pope that bought its status with hot tubs for students.

    Barcardi on
  • ZoelZoel I suppose... I'd put it on Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Barcardi wrote: »
    Who is number one now?

    Probably Green Bay, it is basically the Jesus of party schools.

    Arizona being the pope, a corrupt pope that bought its status with hot tubs for students.

    Actually the pope of party schools is American Catholic University

    That title doesn't really mean what you think it means.

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  • Chompskers.Chompskers. Registered User
    edited November 2009
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_school

    According to Playboy University of Miami!

    My friend goes there!
    She likes it!

    But Penn State for the Princeton Review

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  • BarcardiBarcardi All the Wizards Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_school

    According to Playboy University of Miami!

    My friend goes there!
    She likes it!

    But Penn State for the Princeton Review

    snopes.com is on the trail of this most important question

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  • RinderRinder Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I think a hooker parade is needed to reclaim our title.

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  • Chompskers.Chompskers. Registered User
    edited November 2009
    Rinder wrote: »
    I think a hooker parade is needed to reclaim our title.

    Hookers made out of beer.

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  • ZoelZoel I suppose... I'd put it on Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I didn't realize that Georgia was so high on the party school list still

    I mean yeah my dorm was ranked in high times once but

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