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Assassin's Creed II - Speculations on AC3 abound

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  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I'm in love with the unarmed kills. There's not much better than killing an armed guard by punching him in the neck.

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  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I kill rooftop guards with the stiletto now, because the "kill from behind" stiletto animations are sweeeeet

    I always grab them and shove them off the roofs. I never tire of that. I love watching them stumble and then fall. Or poisoning them and watching them shuffle around, waiting to see if they'll fall.

    I'm a sick bastard.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    -Tal wrote: »
    I'm in love with the unarmed kills. There's not much better than killing an armed guard by punching him in the neck.

    how do you do these?

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  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Dashui wrote: »
    I kill rooftop guards with the stiletto now, because the "kill from behind" stiletto animations are sweeeeet

    I always grab them and shove them off the roofs. I never tire of that. I love watching them stumble and then fall. Or poisoning them and watching them shuffle around, waiting to see if they'll fall.

    I'm a sick bastard.

    The first thing I did after getting poison was go around poisoning one guard in a standing group. It's hilarious to see him take out his weapon and beat up his buddies, and the crowd that gathers to watch the poor guy die a slow death is fantastic.

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  • devoirdevoir Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    -Tal wrote: »
    I'm in love with the unarmed kills. There's not much better than killing an armed guard by punching him in the neck.

    how do you do these?

    Combos. Or counter after disarming them and dropping the weapon.

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  • Zoku GojiraZoku Gojira Monster IslandRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Up to sequence 10, and loving this game. Except the stupid dungeons for the assassin's tombs. Those are extremely fucking annoying. I bought an Assassin's Creed game, not Prince of Persia.

    Just a heads up. If you're not talking to everyone you can at every opportunity in the real-world sequences, you're cheating yourself out of some very cool character development. There's no achievement for it this time around, but definitely keep trying to talk to them until they tell you to sod off, they're busy.

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  • devoirdevoir Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Up to sequence 10, and loving this game. Except the stupid dungeons for the assassin's tombs. Those are extremely fucking annoying. I bought an Assassin's Creed game, not Prince of Persia.

    I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels like this. Although I didn't mind them up until the timed segments, especially the ones in the Auditore family crypt. In one of the last two tombs I took 40 attempts to complete one of the timed gate platforming sections.

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  • mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Poison guard, wait till he goes berserk, throw coins in front of him, hilarity ensues.

    I'm a sadist D:

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    devoir wrote: »
    Up to sequence 10, and loving this game. Except the stupid dungeons for the assassin's tombs. Those are extremely fucking annoying. I bought an Assassin's Creed game, not Prince of Persia.

    I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels like this. Although I didn't mind them up until the timed segments, especially the ones in the Auditore family crypt. In one of the last two tombs I took 40 attempts to complete one of the timed gate platforming sections.

    the only tomb i disliked was the water one, except for the giant squid
    the rest were ok

    and i just completed my second playthrough and none of them really bothered me that much the second time around, they were quite enjoyable.

    also, what is it that makes platforming segments unacceptable in an Assassin's Creed game? They are far from the focus of the game, but Ubisoft has a great platforming engine set up with the free-running system and it'd be crazy not to utilize it.

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  • hottoqhottoq Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Wow, there were people who didn't like the assassin tombs?

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  • AmbivalentAmbivalent Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I found the assassins tomb located in the church to be a bit frustrating, But for the most part I found them to be extremely enjoyable and nice change of pace.

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  • YougottawannaYougottawanna Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    The water one was kind of frustrating...but it was almost the only hard part in a game a wish had been a little harder so I can't really complain.

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  • ghost_master2000ghost_master2000 Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    The water one was kind of frustrating...but it was almost the only hard part in a game a wish had been a little harder so I can't really complain.

    While I agree that it would have been nice if it were a bit harder overall, just think of how many people couldn't get past the beam in the tower in Acre. If they couldn't manage something liek that, how are they going to manage other difficult free running sequences?

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  • YougottawannaYougottawanna Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I got stuck on that beam myself. If that means I'm a moron, fine, I'm a moron you caught me.

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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Sometimes I find Ezio/Altair a little unwieldy, especially when he's jumping from boxes to a sequence of rods. The camera won't be in the right position and he'll jump right next to a rod instead of onto it.

    Also, those reviewers who said that the architecture of Italy doesn't lend itself as easily to roof jumping were right. I'm constantly diving off roofs not really knowing where I'll land next due to the slopes. The Holy Land was a bit more boxy in their architecture.

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited December 2009

    Also, those reviewers who said that the architecture of Italy doesn't lend itself as easily to roof jumping were right.

    D:

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  • Zoku GojiraZoku Gojira Monster IslandRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Also, those reviewers who said that the architecture of Italy doesn't lend itself as easily to roof jumping were right. I'm constantly diving off roofs not really knowing where I'll land next due to the slopes. The Holy Land was a bit more boxy in their architecture.

    It's a little broken up, certainly. I find it easier to get around at street level, it's just so much less hassle.

    Sure, there are the lute-playing bastards, but they're nowhere near as annoying as AC1's "just a few coins!" in stereo non-stop.

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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    The beggars I instantly found annoying ("No, you don't understand. I need money!"). The bards started playing for me during my "escort mama and Claudia" mission and I didn't want him to blow my cover so I threw coins (I guess that's what the game tells you to do). My only problem is that right behind one bard was his exact twin, so...yeah.

    I did giggle at his song though, because I don't speak Italian and it just seems like he is trying so hard. Can't push them aside though.

    edit: So the QTEs sequences, is it worth failing any of them? I've gotten all of them except for one where I went to scratch my face and missed getting the hidden blade to pop out for Paola.

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  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I don't understand how people can find the bards annoying.

    You can easily just throw some coins down and all bards in the general area will scurry to pick up the whopping 10 florens you've dropped. If you're feeling especially frustrated for some reason, you can 'grab' them by the collar and throw them to the ground. That is pretty satisfying.

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  • BarcardiBarcardi All the Wizards Under A Rock: AfganistanRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Visti wrote: »

    Also, those reviewers who said that the architecture of Italy doesn't lend itself as easily to roof jumping were right.

    D:

    i demand hilarious real world video

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  • AddaAdda LondonRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Finished this today and I have to say that it's the most enjoyable gaming experience I've had in a long time, despite the fact that I play most every half decent release (much to the displeasure of my wallet.)

    I'm just completely surprised after not liking the first game enough to warrant more than a small play.

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  • devoirdevoir Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    The Auditore crypt and the water one are the ones I was referring to. I like platforming, I love the freerunning aspect, I just hate the pressure of the timed section. I don't mind falling down and screwing up, getting better each time. Just something about the timed component and particular sequences of platforming.

    Funnily enough I had no problem with either of the churches. The first one had no timed segments (and I even fell down and did some really stupid stuff in that one). The second one seemed a lot better laid out and I had less control issues.

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  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    devoir wrote: »
    The Auditore crypt and the water one are the ones I was referring to. I like platforming, I love the freerunning aspect, I just hate the pressure of the timed section. I don't mind falling down and screwing up, getting better each time. Just something about the timed component and particular sequences of platforming.

    Funnily enough I had no problem with either of the churches. The first one had no timed segments (and I even fell down and did some really stupid stuff in that one). The second one seemed a lot better laid out and I had less control issues.

    My favourite part about that timed tomb was I missed by a split second on the last one, but it wouldn't reset so I could try again. Awesome.

    *turn off console*

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  • WankWank Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    One of the best things? Throwing down ten florins and inexplicably pickpocketing more than ten florins each from every single person crowded around the money. :winky:

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  • SalmonOfDoubtSalmonOfDoubt Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    What I would love to see in AC3 is
    Set in present-day, controlling New-and-Improved Assassin-Desmond against the Templars, but early on he finds one of the Pieces of Eden, plugs it into some piece of technology in one of the tombs and accidentally summons time-travel-duplicates of Altair and Ezio and the plot becomes some kind of bizarre Assassin version of the Three Musketeers. Only with hundreds of knives everywhere.

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    PiptheFair wrote: »
    killing children would be hilarious
    Olivaw wrote: »
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    NotACrook wrote: »
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  • StigmaStigma Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    What I would love to see in AC3 is
    Set in present-day, controlling New-and-Improved Assassin-Desmond against the Templars, but early on he finds one of the Pieces of Eden, plugs it into some piece of technology in one of the tombs and accidentally summons time-travel-duplicates of Altair and Ezio and the plot becomes some kind of bizarre Assassin version of the Three Musketeers. Only with hundreds of knives everywhere.

    And co-op.

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  • AddaAdda LondonRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Stigma wrote: »
    What I would love to see in AC3 is
    Set in present-day, controlling New-and-Improved Assassin-Desmond against the Templars, but early on he finds one of the Pieces of Eden, plugs it into some piece of technology in one of the tombs and accidentally summons time-travel-duplicates of Altair and Ezio and the plot becomes some kind of bizarre Assassin version of the Three Musketeers. Only with hundreds of knives everywhere.

    And co-op.
    3 way split screen in the style of the assassin symbol!

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  • BarcardiBarcardi All the Wizards Under A Rock: AfganistanRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    What I would love to see in AC3 is
    Set in present-day, controlling New-and-Improved Assassin-Desmond against the Templars, but early on he finds one of the Pieces of Eden, plugs it into some piece of technology in one of the tombs and accidentally summons time-travel-duplicates of Altair and Ezio and the plot becomes some kind of bizarre Assassin version of the Three Musketeers. Only with hundreds of knives everywhere.

    I can only picture
    three languages spoken at once, with a crazy game of telephone, all while assassinating modern day beggers who wont get out of your way

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  • StigmaStigma Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Barcardi wrote: »
    What I would love to see in AC3 is
    Set in present-day, controlling New-and-Improved Assassin-Desmond against the Templars, but early on he finds one of the Pieces of Eden, plugs it into some piece of technology in one of the tombs and accidentally summons time-travel-duplicates of Altair and Ezio and the plot becomes some kind of bizarre Assassin version of the Three Musketeers. Only with hundreds of knives everywhere.

    I can only picture
    three languages spoken at once, with a crazy game of telephone, all while assassinating modern day beggers who wont get out of your way
    At least Desmond would understand it all via bleeding effect, and the subtitles always help

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2009
    Given the ending of AC2, I think its highly likely that
    Altair is still alive

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  • SalmonOfDoubtSalmonOfDoubt Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Stigma wrote: »
    Barcardi wrote: »
    What I would love to see in AC3 is
    Set in present-day, controlling New-and-Improved Assassin-Desmond against the Templars, but early on he finds one of the Pieces of Eden, plugs it into some piece of technology in one of the tombs and accidentally summons time-travel-duplicates of Altair and Ezio and the plot becomes some kind of bizarre Assassin version of the Three Musketeers. Only with hundreds of knives everywhere.

    I can only picture
    three languages spoken at once, with a crazy game of telephone, all while assassinating modern day beggers who wont get out of your way
    At least Desmond would understand it all via bleeding effect, and the subtitles always help
    Yeah, but Altair and Ezio wouldn't be able to understand each other. Most of the game's dialogue would be along the lines of
    Altair:"Can you understand what he's saying?"
    Desmond:"I can understand him. Can't you?"
    Altair:"No, what's he's saying?"
    Desmond:"He says he can't understand what you're saying."
    Altair:"Well, I can't understand what he's saying."
    Desmond:"I know that, you just told me."
    Altair:"But he doesn't, he can't understand me. Tell him I don't understand him."
    Ezio: "Wait, what're you and Altair talking about?"

    And all the while Lucy watches and understand none of it. It'd be gloriously ridiculous.

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    PiptheFair wrote: »
    killing children would be hilarious
    Olivaw wrote: »
    HELLO AND WELCOME TO THE PENNY ARCADE FORUMS

    PLEASE ENJOY YOUR STAY

    AND THIS PENIS
    Man, I don't want to read about this lady's broken vagina.
    NotACrook wrote: »
    I am sitting here trying to come up with a tiered system for rating child molesters.
    cock vore is fuckin hilarious
  • StigmaStigma Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Stigma wrote: »
    Barcardi wrote: »
    What I would love to see in AC3 is
    Set in present-day, controlling New-and-Improved Assassin-Desmond against the Templars, but early on he finds one of the Pieces of Eden, plugs it into some piece of technology in one of the tombs and accidentally summons time-travel-duplicates of Altair and Ezio and the plot becomes some kind of bizarre Assassin version of the Three Musketeers. Only with hundreds of knives everywhere.

    I can only picture
    three languages spoken at once, with a crazy game of telephone, all while assassinating modern day beggers who wont get out of your way
    At least Desmond would understand it all via bleeding effect, and the subtitles always help
    Yeah, but Altair and Ezio wouldn't be able to understand each other. Most of the game's dialogue would be along the lines of
    Altair:"Can you understand what he's saying?"
    Desmond:"I can understand him. Can't you?"
    Altair:"No, what's he's saying?"
    Desmond:"He says he can't understand what you're saying."
    Altair:"Well, I can't understand what he's saying."
    Desmond:"I know that, you just told me."
    Altair:"But he doesn't, he can't understand me. Tell him I don't understand him."
    Ezio: "Wait, what're you and Altair talking about?"

    And all the while Lucy watches and understand none of it. It'd be gloriously ridiculous.

    I really want to see that.
    Imagine the old school assassins getting used to the future aswell...
    "Where are my hay piles?"
    "Oh, use garbage instead"
    "BASTARDO!"

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  • mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    You know whats worse than the controls at times? The fucking idiotic automatic contuxtual camera.

    Oh you're trying to make a precise freerun across some slippery rocks? Oh whoops we changed the angle so right is now back, have fun!

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  • WankWank Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Agreed, especially for the hidden tomb parts. I have a route all mapped out, and then all of a sudden the camera will spin around.

    I know that the game is telling me to go a particular way, but I can't for the life of me figure out what it wants me to do and really can I please have my normal camera back? Please?

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Oh fuck that was so annoying in a couple assassin tombs.

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  • mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Altaïr's armour is classy as fuck.

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  • StigmaStigma Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    At least there's no mystery as to what Altair would look like in it.

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  • StrikerkcStrikerkc Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Altaïr's armour is classy as fuck.

    It's cool armor, but it bugs me that it doesn't look at all like something altair would wear.

    It looks 100% renesance/Italian. So while I think it's great as a "top tier" armor for Ezio, I can't picture a guy walking through Damascus or Acre wearing it. I was hoping for something a little more... multi-century. Or just a very ornate armor that you still put on over what ever dye job your character had at the time.

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  • WankWank Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I switched armors back right after I got it. Assassin white all the way.

    Wank on
  • StrikerkcStrikerkc Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Wank wrote: »
    I switched armors back right after I got it. Assassin white all the way.

    I always liked the red myself.

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