Yeah but I thought you wanted to know how valuation worked.
With... math?
Ridiculously complex math yeah, but at its core it's about how much people are willing to pay for something vs how much people are willing to sell something.
Yeah but I thought you wanted to know how valuation worked.
With... math?
Ridiculously complex math yeah, but at its core it's about how much people are willing to pay for something vs how much people are willing to sell something.
Which I assume is based on past prices, economic adjustments and heavy bartering?
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No, like, let's just get rid of them. So I never have to write a paper on their literature again.
What is proletariat literature? Instruction manuals?
Ah! That is indeed the question of the paper! What is proletarian literature. It's A. literature written by the proletariat, b, literature written about the proletariat, c. literature read by the proletariat or d. literature written by a writer that is imbued with a revolutionary class consciousness and the knowledge that the future belongs to the workers.
(My paper is on the difficulties of defining proletarian literature).
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Yeah but I thought you wanted to know how valuation worked.
With... math?
Ridiculously complex math yeah, but at its core it's about how much people are willing to pay for something vs how much people are willing to sell something.
Which I assume is based on past prices, economic adjustments and heavy bartering?
and the golden rule of classical economics, supply vs demand.
Though I think it's important to note that those are both determined far more by how many individual sellers/buyers of thing x there are than the number of thing xes.
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Welp, I think the aesthetics thread is done. It was nice while it lasted.
Sometime I would like to start a more...ground-level thread on criticism and critical theory and keep the philosophy at a healthy arms' length. I think there's a weird hostility among certain quarters towards the idea of criticism or aesthetic judgment and I'd like to get at why that is.
No, like, let's just get rid of them. So I never have to write a paper on their literature again.
What is proletariat literature? Instruction manuals?
Ah! That is indeed the question of the paper! What is proletarian literature. It's A. literature written by the proletariat, b, literature written about the proletariat, c. literature read by the proletariat or d. literature written by a writer that is imbued with a revolutionary class consciousness and the knowledge that the future belongs to the workers.
(My paper is on the difficulties of defining proletarian literature).
I want to say "all of the above," but the precise justification is beyond what I'm exactly capable of right now.
I mean, if it's written by a working class citizen, then aren't we all a result of our experiences, and as such anything created by the proletariat will carry a... "brand" with it. If it's written about the working class then it seems easy to brand it as such, given the intent of the work, right? Books read by proletarians seem to be right, because that is what an archeologist would look at. What was their culture? Their own entertainment?
And the fourth is like... pro-letarian literature, so that's gotta count, right?
I don't know. I haven't been in any class that required me to think in such a long time, I feel like I'm too out of practice.
Proletariat literature seems like it would be stuff like
Huck Finn.
Upton Sinclair, Steinbeck, etc.
Those seem really, really easy, though. There's gotta be more, and more subtle entries. There's always more subtlety. Finer lines that can be drawn or redrawn or reexamined. Just listing "The Jungle" is like trying to define the 56+ 'reds' for crayola, and deciding to fuck all, and erase all but just "Red".
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I want to say "all of the above," but the precise justification is beyond what I'm exactly capable of right now.
I mean, if it's written by a working class citizen, then aren't we all a result of our experiences, and as such anything created by the proletariat will carry a... "brand" with it. If it's written about the working class then it seems easy to brand it as such, given the intent of the work, right? Books read by proletarians seem to be right, because that is what an archeologist would look at. What was their culture? Their own entertainment?
And the third is like... pro-letarian literature, so that's gotta count, right?
I don't know. I haven't been in any class that required me to think in such a long time, I feel like I'm too out of practice.
Well all of them have their merits and downsides.
A member of the proletarian can write a pro-capitlist novel. A book written about the proletariat can disparage them, a book written about the bourgeois could reveal their corrupt and decadence. Something read by the proletariat could uphold bourgeois ideals or simply be the sunday paper. The ideological intent is probably the most direct but tended to produce some pretty bad literature when say, a middle class person tried to write a working class novel, despite having socialist ideals.
It also depends on what perspective you look at it from, ie. that of a historian, or that of "what type of writing would be most effective in causing a proletarian revolution?"
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Welp, I think the aesthetics thread is done. It was nice while it lasted.
Sometime I would like to start a more...ground-level thread on criticism and critical theory and keep the philosophy at a healthy arms' length. I think there's a weird hostility among certain quarters towards the idea of criticism or aesthetic judgment and I'd like to get at why that is.
I have lost count of the number of times someone has stated "Well, that's my opinion" after being challenged about something. I know that's your opinion, douchebag, I'm just curious why that's your opinion. People do not like to be challenged and disagreeing with someone is a tricky business.
I face every day knowing that there are people out there that hate Raichu.
I hope the maker shows them the mercy that I can not.
I can't imagine why.
This is more of a reason to hate anybody with koi in their name, deviantart, or other such things. Hate the player[s who suffer from some kind of cerebral palsy that makes them think they should make some bad fanservice raichu picture where instead of being any of the things he originally is he looks like something out of an ad-stuffed disney characters porno site], not the game foo.
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Like... "slummin' it"?
With... math?
Intravenously.
No, like, let's just get rid of them. So I never have to write a paper on their literature again.
Ridiculously complex math yeah, but at its core it's about how much people are willing to pay for something vs how much people are willing to sell something.
my father's other family was middle class
and we were kept out of sight
hidden from view
at his funeral.
Which I assume is based on past prices, economic adjustments and heavy bartering?
I thought you were commenting on market talk
What is proletariat literature? Instruction manuals?
No I am commenting on this paper that I have still not finished, which is why I am still awake.
You'd become me.
Ah! That is indeed the question of the paper! What is proletarian literature. It's A. literature written by the proletariat, b, literature written about the proletariat, c. literature read by the proletariat or d. literature written by a writer that is imbued with a revolutionary class consciousness and the knowledge that the future belongs to the workers.
(My paper is on the difficulties of defining proletarian literature).
and the golden rule of classical economics, supply vs demand.
Though I think it's important to note that those are both determined far more by how many individual sellers/buyers of thing x there are than the number of thing xes.
I'm going to usurp your mom.
Huck Finn.
Not until I find a thunderstone.
Sometime I would like to start a more...ground-level thread on criticism and critical theory and keep the philosophy at a healthy arms' length. I think there's a weird hostility among certain quarters towards the idea of criticism or aesthetic judgment and I'd like to get at why that is.
Upton Sinclair, Steinbeck, etc.
I want to say "all of the above," but the precise justification is beyond what I'm exactly capable of right now.
I mean, if it's written by a working class citizen, then aren't we all a result of our experiences, and as such anything created by the proletariat will carry a... "brand" with it. If it's written about the working class then it seems easy to brand it as such, given the intent of the work, right? Books read by proletarians seem to be right, because that is what an archeologist would look at. What was their culture? Their own entertainment?
And the fourth is like... pro-letarian literature, so that's gotta count, right?
I don't know. I haven't been in any class that required me to think in such a long time, I feel like I'm too out of practice.
I've been on this forum for four years now.
That just feels really weird.
Those seem really, really easy, though. There's gotta be more, and more subtle entries. There's always more subtlety. Finer lines that can be drawn or redrawn or reexamined. Just listing "The Jungle" is like trying to define the 56+ 'reds' for crayola, and deciding to fuck all, and erase all but just "Red".
I lol'ed.
:winky:
...
james is on a roll... red :P
I meant fourth. I can't count.
I hope the maker shows them the mercy that I can not.
Well all of them have their merits and downsides.
A member of the proletarian can write a pro-capitlist novel. A book written about the proletariat can disparage them, a book written about the bourgeois could reveal their corrupt and decadence. Something read by the proletariat could uphold bourgeois ideals or simply be the sunday paper. The ideological intent is probably the most direct but tended to produce some pretty bad literature when say, a middle class person tried to write a working class novel, despite having socialist ideals.
It also depends on what perspective you look at it from, ie. that of a historian, or that of "what type of writing would be most effective in causing a proletarian revolution?"
I wasn't laughing at that. Pro-letarian was funny in a kind of terrible way.
I can't imagine why.
I know, I was retroactively correcting my mistake.
And "funny in a terrible kind of way" is like... my thing. My "thing".
Have a good night, everyone.
I..
I think I love you.
I have lost count of the number of times someone has stated "Well, that's my opinion" after being challenged about something. I know that's your opinion, douchebag, I'm just curious why that's your opinion. People do not like to be challenged and disagreeing with someone is a tricky business.
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This is more of a reason to hate anybody with koi in their name, deviantart, or other such things. Hate the player[s who suffer from some kind of cerebral palsy that makes them think they should make some bad fanservice raichu picture where instead of being any of the things he originally is he looks like something out of an ad-stuffed disney characters porno site], not the game foo.