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The downloads I'm referring to are for your PSP. You need to own a PS3 in order to make use of PSP functionality.
Someone needs to make a list of things sony has done right this year, then compare them. Then we can all stop jumping on minor points.
Out of interest, heres some starters.
Free online service. (known con, less standard intergrated features than paid live, so don't jump on it, the point is to list good things they've done)
Dedicated online updates to games that aren't bc.
Things they say they are going to do in the future do not count, so pc - psp downloads wont be on there unless I missed something in the last week or so.
Actually, they NEVER stated it would REQUIRE the PS3. The only thing they said is that you can transfer it through the PS3 or PC. Not that you'd have to register your PSP with your PS3 before you could even transfer and play the game.
Well, it's a good thing you aren't sony.
You've already gotten them to spend $250 on the hardware itself. You want them to spend somewhere in the area of $10 to $20 on these games. You can't do that by forcing them to spend an additional $500 to $600 just to download 5 to 6 year old games.
Sure, it was a gas when Sony had "Insert Brain Here" written on the back of their head, and it was painfuly hilarious when they started spazzing out trying to see what was written on the back of their head. But after awhile, the humour ran dry and it was no longer funny watching Sony freak out as they spun around on the floor. Their behaviour just sad now, and a bit disturbing to boot.
Having to download another copy of a game wouldn't count as backwards compatible to me. If there was an adapter that would allow you to use your old NES, SNES and N64 games on the Wii, then I would call that BC.
But regardless, 100% BC with the Gamecube shouldn't be scoffed at.
Namco's tekken series is exclusive to sony and the only reason I would ever buy a console. They just released the latest version of it for a cheap download on ps3 store in japan, and its coming soon to na.
Tekken is the reason I play console gaming at all and as a starting point it introduced me to the joys of action console games. I still consider some genres to be pointless on a console, like fps with the posisble exception of the wii, and rts games, but in general I like what I see.
I'm a HUGE tekken fan, and will be getting a ps3. Whenver a tekken comes out that I cannot play it sticks in the back of my mind like a sore tooth and I cannot get it out or distract it with another game.
This shit aint just disturbing me, its mentally painful, like watching homer spin around while holding a fragile crystal chalice which contains part of your soul.
You have a good point. Nintendo did some pretty reprehensible GBA/GC shit themselves (needing both to fully unlock content and such) last gen.
Edit: And GBA linking.
Aren't future Tekkens slated to possibly be released on the 360?
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Nope. K killled both the Wii and PS3 megathreads on the 1st.
Just so you know, future tekkens for this generation are coming out for 360. You might wanna go that route and save $200, as well as getting some other good games, a better online service, and a better controller in the process.
In general such a strategy does more harm than good. Sure a lot of people will buy it, but the ones who cant or don't want to shell out the money will complain about it. And they'll complain a lot, and make sure lots of people know about their unhappiness. Lots of people will listen and comment about it, because people like bad news and juicy gossip.
It's current short term financial greed in return for negative publicity. I don't think its a good deal at all unless you just run business in order to skimm all the money off the top before you run them into the ground. Public mind share is a fickle beastie. You don't fuck with it.
Here's an example: A single badly served customer at a restaurant can cost, through the chain reaction of bad word of mouth, almost 1 million per financial year. It's a knock off statistic they fed me when I did a hospitality course in order to impress into me the idea that "customer comes first" and I don't think it would be quite that high, but then again I've never run a small business.
Now restaurants are different from gaming, true. I can just go to another restaurant. But by the looks of it, a lot of publishers plan to evenly support all three consoles. It may soon be possible to get your console gaming needs evenly from all three. In that situation, the business tactics you're describing is abysmally stupid from a long term perspective. It gets you a bit of a money increase now, but it may lose you millions in the end.
Well, except for me of course (Damn you namco, move to xbox!) but I'm at least planning to wait until t6/big price drop comes out before giving them my money, even though a game I desperatly want has already come out for it.
The same thing happened with the psp, with its various bad feedback and problems and the whole firmware update. I was going to buy a psp but when I looked deeper into my future purchase and researched it, I came up with a lot of shit. So I didn't buy portable tekken, even though that has been a dream of mine since tekken 3. I'll still get it of course, but not until sony drop the price way down, or worse, I find a good condition one for a nice 2nd hand price.
In the second situation sony just lost ALL my money, especially if I buy the game for the psp second hand as well.
WHAT. How do you know that. Tekkenzaibatsu has no mention of that, it has like 10 thousand active memberships. Who said that. Where? Source it. Give me a link. Throw me a bone. Give me hope. I'll buy it yesterday.
I have never EVER heard of that, was it mentioned recently?
It's gems like these that keep me coming back to these forums again and again. You can't pay for a performance like that.
We already have a small, but loyal PSP fanbase, with a feature that is all but useless to them unless they shell out $600 to have access to.
On the other hand, are the PS1 games playable on the PS3?
But that's the thing. In order to get them to use the service, you do have to get them to spend at least $500 and we've been trying like hell to tell you that you can't get people to spend that much for a feature on a piece of hardware that's literally half the cost. Especially when there's another method of doing so for free that'd be coming out eventually. Establishment of the product family was made the moment they were both given the Playstation name. That's not the problem. The problem is getting them to actually purchase the system.
Considering that:
1. The games aren't there yet and people are worried about jumping on board the movies due to their past failures in proprietary media formats
2. The system is much more expensive than both of the competition and
3. Few people outside of the gaming community actually know about the features other than playing games since it is in the Playstation family,
Sony is going to have a hell of a time trying to sell this to general public without a price drop or a much better advertising campaign.
Not yet. That's apparently another feature for the future.
Nope. You HAVE TO have both products to be able to play old PS1 games, which makes no sense. Yeah, Sony wants you to buy both products, but the price of buying the missing product is too great for most people to plunk down just to play old PS1 games. Plus, it smacks of money-grubbing, which isn't a good thing to do when you've already got bad buzz.
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Uh, I think the price (duh) has to do with the PS3 not selling and that is the ONLY reason.
It's still a rumour at this point.
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Damn Straight!
Everyone needs to get a Wii.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Dammit.
Namco have an exclusivity contract with sony. Probably the only way this would happen is if sony sold so little ps3's that they can't keep up their end of the contract, which I imagine has a provision that they'll keep it exclusive if sony keep a large marketshare.
No fixing x_x I only like Wii...
(also, putting a lesser console on a better console does not make the lesser console better. Wii can stand on it's own while the 360 can continue struggle to reach the original sales of the Xbox all it wants.)
Let's try and keep the Console vs console crap elsewhere. This is a thread about the PS3.
Yes, lets continue the talk about the mystical $700.
Who here thinks they will buy a PS3 in the coming months?
But believe that Sony is a dickhead of a company just the same?
According to that Gamespot jingle, most people who would consider getting a console would not like Sony that much.