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Man to be the first to "finish" WoW. G&T whats your response?

delphinusdelphinus Registered User regular
edited December 2009 in Games and Technology
Man 'finishes' World of Warcraft
Wednesday 2-Dec-2009 10:46 AM Taiwanese player completes all achievements
A Taiwanese man has been named as the first player to 'finish' World of Warcraft.

'Little Gray', as his character's known, is the first to successfully complete all of the MMO's 986 achievements listed in the armory, reports MMO Champion.

To reach the milestone the Taiwanese power-player killed 390,895 creatures, accumulated 7,255,538,878 points of damage, completed 5,906 quests (that's 14.62 quests per day, apparently), raided 405 dungeons and hugged 11 players.

The achievement hasn't arrived without some controversy though; WoW-heads point out that technically he's still missing one illusive, event-tied achievement (called "BB King"), but he's managed to dodge it via a glitch awarding one extra, false achievement point.

We say he's not a man until he tracks down and gets that last achievement legitimately.

I'm cross posting this from several other sites just to see what PA's response is to this news. I think it's interesting to see what gamers think of other gamers who have higher degrees of dedication to the hobby.

As a non-player of WoW, I think this acheivement was humanly improbable. The funds, the bills, the sheer skill it would have taken to do this is downright astonishing. Not impressed per se, but still holy shit. From what I'm told, this player also needs some serious teammates to get some of the loftier achievements. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find the total play time yet.

Please post your reply before reading the topic inside, it'd be great to hear your first thoughts before the following influences your opinion.
There's an alternative reason for me to post this story. There's a general reply from most boards of either "get a life" or "hasn't had sex for sure"/ "needs to get laid". I know most people aren't too on board with the 'games as art' or games being a respectable medium, but surely something can be said about a gamer who is too much of a gamer. Do our own responses work against us? Are we just adults continuously deluding ourselves with a children's hobby?"

I don't see other mediums getting hit with the same reactions. No one says, dedicated rock musicians or art gallery types don't get laid or any other condescending comments.
No one draws these conclusions:
I watch lots of TV/movie, therefore I haven't had sex.
I listen to lots of music, therefore I don't get laid
I collect/view/appreciate/read lots of books or art. I don't have sex.

People on these forums continuously bring up games that draw them in, whether aesthetically or emotionally. These same games have stories that move us, cause us to cry, scream out "FUCK YEAH!/YOU!", as much as any other art form with its immersion. But with responses like the ones to this particular story, it makes me wonder: "As adults, are we just kidding ourselves?"

GO G&T!

Updated with PICS!
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Not trying to be a cutting edge newsjournalist, but the character was Tauron Druid on the WraithBringer server. From what I've read, he's also gotten the server firsts as well.

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  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    My response is "eh"

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  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Also, elusive means hard to get, illusive means like an illusion.

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  • 4rch3nemy4rch3nemy Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I bet he was having sex as he played, making him the truest playa.

    But really.. meh. Not impressed, personally.

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  • undeinPiratundeinPirat Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    you can't finish a game if the credits don't roll

    people used to claim that beating wow is beating all the raids, it's all a game of classification

    if this is how this guy wants to spend his time, whatever, power to him. but it's silly to call a game with a subscription "finishable"

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    NotACrook wrote: »
    Also, elusive means hard to get, illusive means like an illusion.

    Games journalism.

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  • RaynagaRaynaga Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    The derogatory comments come from the sheer amount of time people who have played WoW know pulling this off would take.

    The guy would have to spend just about every waking moment playing to actually nab all of those.

    Oh, and "sheer skill" also doesn't really apply. Sheer time, sure.

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  • anoffdayanoffday To be changed whenever Anoffday gets around to it. Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Usually I hate when people say, "Oh he needs a life." But seriously...he needs a life.

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  • PotatoNinjaPotatoNinja Fake Gamer Goat Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Oh I very much imagine this guy is really, really, really good at WoW.

    I also imagine its kind of his life. Which is ok, I guess, if he's happy with it. I can't imagine its a healthy way to live but I'm not really willing to post on a videogame webforum about how some random guy in Taiwan should spend his time more productively.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    It's a team of people sharing his single account.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Meh.

    I'd be similarly impressed by a report that somebody has managed to unlock all the achievements possible on XBL...

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  • tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    He's far from the first person to have finished wow, I bet someone has finished it numerous times before (every quest, best possible loot etc) it's just that now there is a measured quantity of finished vs not finished for Blizzard to track.

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  • ItalaxItalax Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Meh.

    I'd be similarly impressed by a report that somebody has managed to unlock all the achievements possible on XBL...

    I'd be impressed more at the amount of money that would take. Even renting that would cost a pretty penny.

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  • RivulentRivulent Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Meh.

    I'd be similarly impressed by a report that somebody has managed to unlock all the achievements possible on XBL...

    That would cost 10s, maybe 100s, of thousands of dollars, though. Completing all the achievements in wow only destroys one man's life. :winky:

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  • delphinusdelphinus Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    It's a team of people sharing his single account.

    That's one theory that's being tossed around. And it certainly is a normal trend around LAN cafe's in Asia.

    Just try to imagine what that account is worth on Ebay...

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  • Kris_xKKris_xK Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    A heartfelt "meh".

    I'm assuming he got most of the raid achievements from actually contributing (and not getting pulled through the zone), so that means he had to be at least a little bit skilled (so he doesn't stand in the fucking fire) but really, all it comes down to is having a fuckton of time on your hands.

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  • WilDPanthA05WilDPanthA05 Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Like others have said, if that's how he wants to live, so be it ... I'm not some mythical dude who has super rights to criticize the way someone wants to live.

    Am I impressed? I don't know honestly, that's a gigantic time commitment, but I don't know if I would say I'm impressed.

    I'd give him a high five ... then forget about it.

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  • RanadielRanadiel Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I'd buy him a hooker.

    Odds are he hasn't had any in a long.... long time. And not just any hooker - one that has the patience to run him through the process, since he likely has forgotten what it's like to be with a woman that didn't have purple skin and floppy rabbit ears.

    Actually the joke would be on everyone if tomorrow his account goes up for sale on Marquee Gamer. I'm sure some jackoff would pay top dollar for an account who had every achievement already obtained, and I'm sure the character is pimped out as well.

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  • RivulentRivulent Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    At least he remembered to eat, am I right?

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Rivulent wrote: »
    Meh.

    I'd be similarly impressed by a report that somebody has managed to unlock all the achievements possible on XBL...

    That would cost 10s, maybe 100s, of thousands of dollars, though. Completing all the achievements in wow only destroys one man's life. :winky:

    Game trading isn't a complete unknown... And who says the idle rich couldn't have a hobby? I simply wouldn't care either about the logistics or the effort. In either case.

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  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Meh.

    I'd be similarly impressed by a report that somebody has managed to unlock all the achievements possible on XBL...

    Like Bowie in The Man Who Fell to Earth. But with controllers.

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  • CidonaBoyCidonaBoy Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Reminds me of that picture of the mage in method (EmilySpear?) with 300 days playtime.

    I've always wondered, how do these people do it? Nevermind the actual playing, surely they have some financial obligations, or just someone noticed they were missing? o_O

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  • StigmaStigma Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Friends don't let friends play MMOs

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  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Ranadiel wrote: »
    -snip-

    Actually the joke would be on everyone if tomorrow his account goes up for sale on Marquee Gamer. I'm sure some jackoff would pay top dollar for an account who had every achievement already obtained, and I'm sure the character is pimped out as well.

    Y'know what? I would not at all be surprised if he does sell it and I wouldn't be surprised if it sold for some ridiculous price.

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  • RanadielRanadiel Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    When I played I had a friend who was free from financial obligations and lived off a well invested inheritance. He was also cynacist and a total shut in, who occupied his time by powerleveling rogues to the max level when new servers came out. He would always be one of the top 5 first people to reach max level. Cool guy though, easily one of my best internet friends.

    Another friend of mine would hop servers with him back when they were still popping them out on a semi-regular basis and this guy was almost always online. I have no doubt he'd have clocked in an absurd amount of time played had he stuck with one character. He had no obligations or desire to interact with the world at large, so the sky was the limit.

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  • TyrantCowTyrantCow Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    my official response is

    don't care

    i normally wouldn't bother to post it, as it seems rather dickish; but, you asked.

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  • Salvation122Salvation122 Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I'm assuming they're not counting all the Server First achievements.

    NOT GOOD ENOUGH

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  • delphinusdelphinus Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    If it matters to anyone, the profile character was a Tauron Druid.

    updated OP

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  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    NotACrook wrote: »
    Also, elusive means hard to get, illusive means like an illusion.

    Games journalism.

    oh right

    And every hobby has the stigma of the guy or girl who goes too far.

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  • UltrachristUltrachrist Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I'm curious how people who do things like this or get absurd amounts of 360 achievements live. I don't mean in the "They have no life!" sense. I mean like. . . how do you play a game all day and somehow have no obligations? Do they have jobs? Are they rich? Do they sleep for 3 hours a night?

    I remember a guy in my WoW guild got hit by a car when he was a kid and it fucked up his leg and he was living off that money or something a long those lines. Still, even without a job and seemingly only basic social obligations, he never could have come close to getting every WoW achievement.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I think the people that come dangerously close (if not whole hog) to 'get a life' status are extreme outliers of our hobby. They'd be on the fringe of any other hobby at that.

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  • -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    New patch out this week with a bunch of new achievements anyway. Joke's on him!

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  • RanadielRanadiel Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Ha yeah, I can only imagine.

    "...*pant*....*pant*... There.... the task is complete. Azeroth is safe. And now... a much deserved rest..."

    "Uh, sir... it's Tuesday. They just patched in 50 more achievements."

    "FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU---!"

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  • delphinusdelphinus Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I think the people that come dangerously close (if not whole hog) to 'get a life' status are extreme outliers of our hobby. They'd be on the fringe of any other hobby at that.

    I play about 15 hours of 360 minimum during the week and still only have about 8k gamerpoints.
    Ofcourse, I have never played for achievement points but i thoroughly spend the time immersing myself in a game.

    Then there are LOTS people with 20 to 40k, which compared to my score I should be given merit to call them names. (I won't because most of my friends list is composed of the awesome people of G&T. I just don't think the 'get a life' status is as rare as you think.

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  • kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    When I think of the opportunity costs i get queasy

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  • ShensShens Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    delphinus wrote: »
    I think the people that come dangerously close (if not whole hog) to 'get a life' status are extreme outliers of our hobby. They'd be on the fringe of any other hobby at that.

    Then there are LOTS people with 20 to 40k, which compared to my score I should be given merit to call them names. (I won't because most of my friends list is composed of the awesome people of G&T. I just don't think the 'get a life' status is as rare as you think.

    Yes. That is how it works. "Billy plays more than ME? He needs to get a life."

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  • Mr.SunshineMr.Sunshine Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I didn't have to "achieve" anything to be finished with WoW.

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  • DiannaoChongDiannaoChong Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    He didnt finish wow, because it dosent have an end. I wont even humor this with a rant, or begin one.

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I'm not going to say he "needs a life" because that would be condescending, but I'm seriously not impressed by that. It's much more a testament to time spent than gaming skills.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    delphinus wrote: »
    I think the people that come dangerously close (if not whole hog) to 'get a life' status are extreme outliers of our hobby. They'd be on the fringe of any other hobby at that.

    I play about 15 hours of 360 minimum during the week and still only have about 8k gamerpoints.
    Ofcourse, I have never played for achievement points but i thoroughly spend the time immersing myself in a game.

    Then there are LOTS people with 20 to 40k, which compared to my score I should be given merit to call them names. (I won't because most of my friends list is composed of the awesome people of G&T. I just don't think the 'get a life' status is as rare as you think.

    Obviously I have a high gamerscore. It's not necessarily something I'm proud of, only something that is. I know of one cat who, last time I'd bothered to check, had more than 60,000 points... And he is an obsessive gamer and deeply competitive about it. He's also in a position where he can accomplish it more easily than others.

    The number of achievement points some people have compared to others isn't really a helpful gauge on 'get a life' status. Some people are just better positioned for such exploits. I'm merely suggesting that those who fully obsess over such trivial statistics are the fringe of the fringe. No matter how much time they have or spend chasing their 'dream'.

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited December 2009
    Djiem wrote: »
    I'm not going to say he "needs a life" because that would be condescending, but I'm seriously not impressed by that. It's much more a testament to time spent than gaming skills.
    He has to finish in the top 0.5% in one PvP bracket, which isn't easy. Especially if he does raiding on top of that. While PvP is generally more casual than raiding (or can be), you have to be pretty active if you want to get the achievements.

    And investing time in anything generally makes you better at it. That doesn't eliminate the possibility of multiple people doing this, however.

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