For anyone who is still keeping score, here's how my games are doing.
=First 6 days of January=
Epiphany - 15/41
Molly - 17/92
=Life to Date=
Epiphany in Spaaace! - 523/3006 (17.4%)
Molly the Were-Zompire - 372/3742 (9.94%)
Looks like I'll be getting about $600 sometime soon for last quarter's sales.
My next game is going to be an Interactive Novel with a little RPG stats/combat for variety. Horror game where you have to play multiple times to uncover what's going on. I'm working with a talented artist on this one (previous games were just me & my wife) so hopefully that'll help give it a lot more exposure than my previous games.
Wow, $600 for working on a hobby is pretty friggin excellent.
Although I mean, what's the pay rate per hour? I assume it took more than a week to put the games together.
Natal's basically an Eyetoy with an IR camera to help it recognize people better, that's it. Nothing spectacular will come out of it. Sony's basically got a reverse Wii remote, with the IR on the remote and the camera replacing the sensor ba, so it'll be able to mimic the Wii really well.
I'm sure both will be used by third party companies about as well as the motion sensor in the Dualshock 3 has been used. :P
Which annoys me, as I really want to see IR pointers become standard, nevermind motion control.
Natal's basically an Eyetoy with an IR camera to help it recognize people better, that's it. Nothing spectacular will come out of it. Sony's basically got a reverse Wii remote, with the IR on the remote and the camera replacing the sensor ba, so it'll be able to mimic the Wii really well.
I'm sure both will be used by third party companies about as well as the motion sensor in the Dualshock 3 has been used. :P
Which annoys me, as I really want to see IR pointers become standard, nevermind motion control.
The fact that third parties will screw up the motion control, or that Sony and Microsoft have ignored the best part of the Wiimote?
Natal's basically an Eyetoy with an IR camera to help it recognize people better, that's it. Nothing spectacular will come out of it. Sony's basically got a reverse Wii remote, with the IR on the remote and the camera replacing the sensor ba, so it'll be able to mimic the Wii really well.
I'm sure both will be used by third party companies about as well as the motion sensor in the Dualshock 3 has been used. :P
Which annoys me, as I really want to see IR pointers become standard, nevermind motion control.
The fact that third parties will screw up the motion control, or that Sony and Microsoft have ignored the best part of the Wiimote?
Capcom's talking about the Wii market here. In essence, the third parties are unable to pin down what the Wii audience is, specifically.
Also, lifetime sales for Zack and Wiki - 126,000 units in 26 months. "Abysmal", as they put it.
Do they not get NPD numbers for any other games? I keep seeing reports that such and such game is doing well for itself despite not showing up in the top ten, that the attach rate is still up, etc.
It's obvious that non-Nintendo games are selling. What is so hard about looking at them and saying, ok, let's make more games like that?
Though in many cases it seems like the games that sell are ports or cross platform brand name stuff like Guitar Hero or Lego Whatever. Maybe the Wii market just buys whatever is considered popular, and won't buy unknowns like Little King's Story?
Molyneux is a fantastic idea man. I really dig his thoughts on gaming, where it should be going, and what innovations would make for some fantastic game designs.
Problem is he's horrible at execution. He ideas are just too big for him to follow through on, so what we get are decent games that have barely a fraction of what his grand scheme was supposed to be.
I miss Bullfrog.
I've spent a lot of time playing games that Molyneux helped create so I can't hate on the man. However, it was probably better back in the Bullfrog days when you didn't really hear him going on and on about how great something is.
Who knows what they took out of Populous, Syndicate, Theme Park, and Dungeon Keeper. I greatly enjoyed those games and didn't have to worry about Molyneux making them seem larger than they were.
Capcom's talking about the Wii market here. In essence, the third parties are unable to pin down what the Wii audience is, specifically.
Also, lifetime sales for Zack and Wiki - 126,000 units in 26 months. "Abysmal", as they put it.
One of my favorite Wii games. Too sad the name was horrible and the art style, specifically the box cover, made it look like a Saturday morning cartoon game.
I'm pretty sure we've argued to death the horrible marketing some 25 months ago.
"Now, I don't even know what the market is," he says.
This is why God created demographic research.
One thing's for sure -- the focus has changed. Stores like Target and Best Buy have reportedly told game publishers not to even bother approaching them with collections of mini games, which they will no longer pick up.
"Third-party publishers are having a hard time determining who the Wii audience is," Kramer adds. "You can no longer say it is solely casual gamers or that only E-rated games own the space. For any sort of solid statement you want to make about the platform or the audience, there are enough opposite proofs to show that it is extremely scattered and chaotic."
My God, a userbase is diverse? THE HORROR, THE HORROR.
Stores like Target and Best Buy have reportedly told game publishers not to even bother approaching them with collections of mini games, which they will no longer pick up.
"Now, I don't even know what the market is," he says.
This is why God created demographic research.
One thing's for sure -- the focus has changed. Stores like Target and Best Buy have reportedly told game publishers not to even bother approaching them with collections of mini games, which they will no longer pick up.
"Third-party publishers are having a hard time determining who the Wii audience is," Kramer adds. "You can no longer say it is solely casual gamers or that only E-rated games own the space. For any sort of solid statement you want to make about the platform or the audience, there are enough opposite proofs to show that it is extremely scattered and chaotic."
My God, a userbase is diverse? THE HORROR, THE HORROR.
That just means more work for devs. You can't bank on a massive game anymore, which is where games have gone over the past few generations. Multimillion dollar budgets for an assured market.
Stores like Target and Best Buy have reportedly told game publishers not to even bother approaching them with collections of mini games, which they will no longer pick up.
Hooray!
Twas the beast that killed the beast.
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Molyneux is a fantastic idea man. I really dig his thoughts on gaming, where it should be going, and what innovations would make for some fantastic game designs.
Problem is he's horrible at execution. He ideas are just too big for him to follow through on, so what we get are decent games that have barely a fraction of what his grand scheme was supposed to be.
I miss Bullfrog.
I've spent a lot of time playing games that Molyneux helped create so I can't hate on the man. However, it was probably better back in the Bullfrog days when you didn't really hear him going on and on about how great something is.
Who knows what they took out of Populous, Syndicate, Theme Park, and Dungeon Keeper. I greatly enjoyed those games and didn't have to worry about Molyneux making them seem larger than they were.
Exactly, these games were fantastic and fun, and we didn't have him promising crazy things before they were released so that we expected one thing but got another.
There is something to be said about under promising but over delivering.
Wow, this is pretty heavy stuff. According to Square Enix president Yoichi Wada, Final Fantasy XIII might be the swan song of the traditional RPG at Square Enix. Although Wada expects XIII to do great things for his company, he believes that Square's internal studios should be put to work on creating "next generation" gameplay.
"I believe Final Fantasy XIII is going be something special, and that it’s going to be well received by the audience," states Wada. "But whether we are going to continue to internally create this type of game remains to be seen, because I actually feel that the team that was involved with Final Fantasy XIII should next move on to create and generate some 'next generation' forms of play.
"I really think that the Final Fantasy team could create something completely different, but at the moment they’re strictly catering to the particular audience they have now."
This is actually pretty astounding. Final Fantasy might have tried all manner of different combat and character progression systems over the years, but its core JRPG gameplay as always remained intact, and of course won Square Enix a huge fan following. Abandoning that winning formula is pretty bloody huge, and if Squenix dared to do it, I wonder what its hardcore fanbase would think.
What do you think, first and foremost? Should Square Enix abandon all the old ways and focus on doing entirely new things, or are there some aspects of Final Fantasy that should never change?
An Audience With: Yoichi Wada [Edge]
Is Square actually done with traditional FF games?
Hey look, the entire reason why I don't like Square.
I loved square so much during the SNES and PS1 period, as they gave me some of my favorite RPGs of any generation such as Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Secret of Evermore, Xenogears, Saga Frontier, and Vagrant Story.
After the PS2 though, I have pretty much hated them.
I'm giving them a chance with Final Fantasy XIII, hoping that it isn't as dull and moronic as FFX and XII were.
Hey look, the entire reason why I don't like Square.
I loved square so much during the SNES and PS1 period, as they gave me some of my favorite RPGs of any generation such as Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Secret of Evermore, Xenogears, Saga Frontier, and Vagrant Story.
After the PS2 though, I have pretty much hated them.
I'm giving them a chance with Final Fantasy XIII, hoping that it isn't as dull and moronic as FFX and XII were.
I've been keeping light tabs on XIII, and if you didn't like FFX or X-2, particularly because they were linear, then you're probably going to despise XIII. I liked those two a fair bit so I'll likely grab XIII at some point down the road, but Caveat Emptor and all.
There was a reason the original Guitar Hero only launched on the Playstation 2, and that reason was Mad Catz.
"Guitar Hero was a game that we were actually involved with early on and pulled out because of a lawsuit with Konami," Mad Catz president and CEO Darren Richardson tells Kotaku. "We were doing the Xbox SKU and that's why there was only a Playstation 2 launch. That's why. We were in there and we pulled out as a result of (the lawsuit) and (Red Octane and Harmonix) went forward and it turned out to be a success, a huge success."
Richardson says they paid $300,000 to get out of their deal and cut themselves out of the Guitar Hero franchise.
"Everyone else made hundreds of millions and we paid money to not be a part of it," Richardson said. "It was brilliant. I come up with these strokes of genius from time to time. That was my best."
Molyneux is a fantastic idea man. I really dig his thoughts on gaming, where it should be going, and what innovations would make for some fantastic game designs.
Problem is he's horrible at execution. He ideas are just too big for him to follow through on, so what we get are decent games that have barely a fraction of what his grand scheme was supposed to be.
I miss Bullfrog.
I've spent a lot of time playing games that Molyneux helped create so I can't hate on the man. However, it was probably better back in the Bullfrog days when you didn't really hear him going on and on about how great something is.
Who knows what they took out of Populous, Syndicate, Theme Park, and Dungeon Keeper. I greatly enjoyed those games and didn't have to worry about Molyneux making them seem larger than they were.
Exactly, these games were fantastic and fun, and we didn't have him promising crazy things before they were released so that we expected one thing but got another.
There is something to be said about under promising but over delivering.
The difference between him and every other developer? We know his name.
Wow, this is pretty heavy stuff. According to Square Enix president Yoichi Wada, Final Fantasy XIII might be the swan song of the traditional RPG at Square Enix. Although Wada expects XIII to do great things for his company, he believes that Square's internal studios should be put to work on creating "next generation" gameplay.
"I believe Final Fantasy XIII is going be something special, and that it’s going to be well received by the audience," states Wada. "But whether we are going to continue to internally create this type of game remains to be seen, because I actually feel that the team that was involved with Final Fantasy XIII should next move on to create and generate some 'next generation' forms of play.
"I really think that the Final Fantasy team could create something completely different, but at the moment they’re strictly catering to the particular audience they have now."
This is actually pretty astounding. Final Fantasy might have tried all manner of different combat and character progression systems over the years, but its core JRPG gameplay as always remained intact, and of course won Square Enix a huge fan following. Abandoning that winning formula is pretty bloody huge, and if Squenix dared to do it, I wonder what its hardcore fanbase would think.
What do you think, first and foremost? Should Square Enix abandon all the old ways and focus on doing entirely new things, or are there some aspects of Final Fantasy that should never change?
An Audience With: Yoichi Wada [Edge]
Is Square actually done with traditional FF games?
No:
"I believe Final Fantasy XIII is going be something special, and that it’s going to be well received by the audience," states Wada. "But whether we are going to continue to internally create this type of game remains to be seen, because I actually feel that the team that was involved with Final Fantasy XIII should next move on to create and generate some 'next generation' forms of play.
They'll probably come up with the ideas and then outsource it to some other team to code out, kind of like they do with Dragon Quest. It makes sense. THey have really talented people in house who could probably make a new IP and have it sell rather well. Why have them keep making shit that's going to sell in the millions no matter who makes it?
So gameindustry.biz have posted their 2010 predictions:
Games expected to be the biggest sellers in 2010
* 1. Halo: Reach
* 2. Final Fantasy XIII
* 3. StarCraft II
* 4. Call of Duty 7
* 5. FIFA 11
* 6. BioShock 2
* 7. Mass Effect 2
* 8. God of War III
* 9. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
* 10. Gran Turismo 5
Top ten games tipped as a 'dark horse' for 2010
* 1. Alan Wake
* 2. Heavy Rain
* 3. Darksiders
* 4. Split Second
* 5. Brink
* 6. APB
* 7. Mass Effect 2
* 8. Dante's Inferno
* 9. Just Cause 2
* =10. Metro 2033
* =10. Max Payne 3
* =10. Red Dead Redemption
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Their 'biggest sellers' predictions are laughable. What the fuck is Gran Turismo 5 doing below Bioshock 2, Mass Effect 2, MW2 and God of War 3? Even Prologue outsold their predecessors. And where the fuck are the Pokemon Gold/Silver remakes?
The dark horse list is even better though. Dante's Inferno?
Brainiac: Yoichi Wada says lots of things, the majority of them pretty idiotic. Take him with a grain of salt.
Also, screw you buddy. FFX and FFXII were good games.
Edit: Gah, didn't finish my sentence properly. Sleep time.
My guess is they mean " Last PS3/360/Wii Final Fantasy". I seriously doubt they will stop making FF *Fuck Ever* for DS/PSP. Low dev time and costs with a massive payout, and all.
So gameindustry.biz have posted their 2010 predictions:
Games expected to be the biggest sellers in 2010
* 1. Halo: Reach
* 2. Final Fantasy XIII
* 3. StarCraft II
* 4. Call of Duty 7
* 5. FIFA 11
* 6. BioShock 2
* 7. Mass Effect 2
* 8. God of War III
* 9. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
* 10. Gran Turismo 5
Apparently no Nintendo games come out this year? Zelda will be top 10, Metroid is possible, and doesn't SMG2 drop this year?
Hey look, the entire reason why I don't like Square.
I loved square so much during the SNES and PS1 period, as they gave me some of my favorite RPGs of any generation such as Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Secret of Evermore, Xenogears, Saga Frontier, and Vagrant Story.
After the PS2 though, I have pretty much hated them.
I'm giving them a chance with Final Fantasy XIII, hoping that it isn't as dull and moronic as FFX and XII were.
I've been keeping light tabs on XIII, and if you didn't like FFX or X-2, particularly because they were linear, then you're probably going to despise XIII. I liked those two a fair bit so I'll likely grab XIII at some point down the road, but Caveat Emptor and all.
I just found the characters to be really dull, and the battle system of XII was horribly boring, like all MMOs ever.
This one at least has character models that seem interesting to me, other than the lesbian biker Shiva.
On another note "Quick Time Event: The Game" (also known as Heavy Rain) is due to be released February 23rd. Rejoice for those looking forward to it.
So gameindustry.biz have posted their 2010 predictions:
Games expected to be the biggest sellers in 2010
* 1. Halo: Reach
* 2. Final Fantasy XIII
* 3. StarCraft II
* 4. Call of Duty 7
* 5. FIFA 11
* 6. BioShock 2
* 7. Mass Effect 2
* 8. God of War III
* 9. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
* 10. Gran Turismo 5
Apparently no Nintendo games come out this year? Zelda will be top 10, Metroid is possible, and doesn't SMG2 drop this year?
If it comes out, Zelda would likely be on there. Metroid is doubtful. NSMBWii would likely be in there, and same with Wii Fit Plus. Heck, Super Mario Kart Wii / DS could make in it there too. Oh, and there's a new Pokemon coming out this year, too.
Definitely seems like Wii / DS games were left off the list.
So gameindustry.biz have posted their 2010 predictions:
Games expected to be the biggest sellers in 2010
* 1. Halo: Reach
* 2. Final Fantasy XIII
* 3. StarCraft II
* 4. Call of Duty 7
* 5. FIFA 11
* 6. BioShock 2
* 7. Mass Effect 2
* 8. God of War III
* 9. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
* 10. Gran Turismo 5
Apparently no Nintendo games come out this year? Zelda will be top 10, Metroid is possible, and doesn't SMG2 drop this year?
If it comes out, Zelda would likely be on there. Metroid is doubtful. NSMBWii would likely be in there, and same with Wii Fit Plus. Heck, Super Mario Kart Wii / DS could make in it there too. Oh, and there's a new Pokemon coming out this year, too.
Definitely seems like Wii / DS games were left off the list.
Top ten games tipped as a 'dark horse' for 2010
* 7. Mass Effect 2
* 9. Just Cause 2
* =10. Max Payne 3
* =10. Red Dead Redemption
Sequels to fairly popular to very popular games can be dark horses now?
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I would think that Super Mario Galaxy 2 would be a pretty big seller, Metroid (with Team Ninja at the helm) a posibility, and Zelda will do awesome no matter what.
Also, Pokemon Gold/Silver will do as well as every iteration of Pokemon ever has, especially considering it's a remake of what many feel is the best of the series. (Including myself)
And Sin & Punishment 2.....well, as much as I want it to, it won't sell that well at all.
Top ten games tipped as a 'dark horse' for 2010
* 7. Mass Effect 2
* 9. Just Cause 2
* =10. Max Payne 3
* =10. Red Dead Redemption
Sequels to fairly popular to very popular games can be dark horses now?
I think the idea is that they aren't popular enough compared to what is expected to sell well. But that this might do better than people might think.
It's definitely rather odd that Nintendo isn't on the list at all. It seems highly unlikely that there wouldn't be at least one game for a Big N system that didn't crack the top 10 in sales.
I think the idea is that they aren't popular enough compared to what is expected to sell well. But that this might do better than people might think.
It's definitely rather odd that Nintendo isn't on the list at all. It seems highly unlikely that there wouldn't be at least one game for a Big N system that didn't crack the top 10 in sales.
Especially considering that WiiFit+ and NSMBWii are pretty much guarunteed to continue selling well throughout the year, just as Modern Warfare should be.
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Although I mean, what's the pay rate per hour? I assume it took more than a week to put the games together.
Which annoys me, as I really want to see IR pointers become standard, nevermind motion control.
The fact that third parties will screw up the motion control, or that Sony and Microsoft have ignored the best part of the Wiimote?
The latter.
Also, lifetime sales for Zack and Wiki - 126,000 units in 26 months. "Abysmal", as they put it.
Do they not get NPD numbers for any other games? I keep seeing reports that such and such game is doing well for itself despite not showing up in the top ten, that the attach rate is still up, etc.
It's obvious that non-Nintendo games are selling. What is so hard about looking at them and saying, ok, let's make more games like that?
Though in many cases it seems like the games that sell are ports or cross platform brand name stuff like Guitar Hero or Lego Whatever. Maybe the Wii market just buys whatever is considered popular, and won't buy unknowns like Little King's Story?
I miss Bullfrog.
I've spent a lot of time playing games that Molyneux helped create so I can't hate on the man. However, it was probably better back in the Bullfrog days when you didn't really hear him going on and on about how great something is.
Who knows what they took out of Populous, Syndicate, Theme Park, and Dungeon Keeper. I greatly enjoyed those games and didn't have to worry about Molyneux making them seem larger than they were.
One of my favorite Wii games. Too sad the name was horrible and the art style, specifically the box cover, made it look like a Saturday morning cartoon game.
I'm pretty sure we've argued to death the horrible marketing some 25 months ago.
My God, a userbase is diverse? THE HORROR, THE HORROR.
Hooray!
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That just means more work for devs. You can't bank on a massive game anymore, which is where games have gone over the past few generations. Multimillion dollar budgets for an assured market.
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Exactly, these games were fantastic and fun, and we didn't have him promising crazy things before they were released so that we expected one thing but got another.
There is something to be said about under promising but over delivering.
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Is Square actually done with traditional FF games?
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"Its really good and we're not making anymore!"
Maybe they're hoping to get all those JRPG fans who can wait to get XIII all antsy to purchase the final Final Fantasy.
I've got a bad case of lovin' you.
Seriously! It's FINAL....and a FANTASY!
BUY IT! :x
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I have trouble believing a company when they say "Hay guys, we're gonna stop now...and this time...we mean it!"
Hey look, the entire reason why I don't like Square.
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I loved square so much during the SNES and PS1 period, as they gave me some of my favorite RPGs of any generation such as Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Secret of Evermore, Xenogears, Saga Frontier, and Vagrant Story.
After the PS2 though, I have pretty much hated them.
I'm giving them a chance with Final Fantasy XIII, hoping that it isn't as dull and moronic as FFX and XII were.
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I've been keeping light tabs on XIII, and if you didn't like FFX or X-2, particularly because they were linear, then you're probably going to despise XIII. I liked those two a fair bit so I'll likely grab XIII at some point down the road, but Caveat Emptor and all.
Main series sales are dipping in Japan, and the shift to HD can't have helped development budgets.
The difference between him and every other developer? We know his name.
What a dumbass, mirite?
No:
They'll probably come up with the ideas and then outsource it to some other team to code out, kind of like they do with Dragon Quest. It makes sense. THey have really talented people in house who could probably make a new IP and have it sell rather well. Why have them keep making shit that's going to sell in the millions no matter who makes it?
Their 'biggest sellers' predictions are laughable. What the fuck is Gran Turismo 5 doing below Bioshock 2, Mass Effect 2, MW2 and God of War 3? Even Prologue outsold their predecessors. And where the fuck are the Pokemon Gold/Silver remakes?
The dark horse list is even better though. Dante's Inferno?
Brainiac: Yoichi Wada says lots of things, the majority of them pretty idiotic. Take him with a grain of salt.
Also, screw you buddy. FFX and FFXII were good games.
Edit: Gah, didn't finish my sentence properly. Sleep time.
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I just found the characters to be really dull, and the battle system of XII was horribly boring, like all MMOs ever.
This one at least has character models that seem interesting to me, other than the lesbian biker Shiva.
On another note "Quick Time Event: The Game" (also known as Heavy Rain) is due to be released February 23rd. Rejoice for those looking forward to it.
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If it comes out, Zelda would likely be on there. Metroid is doubtful. NSMBWii would likely be in there, and same with Wii Fit Plus. Heck, Super Mario Kart Wii / DS could make in it there too. Oh, and there's a new Pokemon coming out this year, too.
Definitely seems like Wii / DS games were left off the list.
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Wii/DS aren't real consoles.
Also, Pokemon Gold/Silver will do as well as every iteration of Pokemon ever has, especially considering it's a remake of what many feel is the best of the series. (Including myself)
And Sin & Punishment 2.....well, as much as I want it to, it won't sell that well at all.
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I think the idea is that they aren't popular enough compared to what is expected to sell well. But that this might do better than people might think.
It's definitely rather odd that Nintendo isn't on the list at all. It seems highly unlikely that there wouldn't be at least one game for a Big N system that didn't crack the top 10 in sales.
Minigame compilations, party games, facebook games that encourage you to compete with your friends, that sort of thing.
Especially considering that WiiFit+ and NSMBWii are pretty much guarunteed to continue selling well throughout the year, just as Modern Warfare should be.
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Really? I guess. I grew tired of that kind of shit before places like facebook were invented... I certainly don't understand the appeal.