Zen VulgarityWhat a lovely day for teaSecret British ThreadRegistered Userregular
edited April 2010
Godly mercs I remember really helped out horkers, but I found that it's worth losing the extra goldfind on killing power (especially in whacking bosses or bosses with too many bloody minions) and then switching for the hork
Yes, I would absolutely kill things, then switch and do the horking. All depending on the area you run, and the difficulty. There are plenty of things that could be killed while wearing the ali babas.
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Zen VulgarityWhat a lovely day for teaSecret British ThreadRegistered Userregular
edited April 2010
Especially in nightmare
I remembered Trav taking way too long with Babas for my taste
Shenk/Pindle/Fire Eye all take little time with them though, so YMMV
* Normal: El (r01) - Ral (r08).
* Nightmare: El (r01) - Io/Ko (r18); above Io (r16) is much rarer.
* Hell: El (r01) - Ist/Lo (r28); above Ist (r24) is much rarer.
Why are two runes listed as her top drop? She has normal item drops like any other monster; these can go up to the highest runes listed; Ko on Nightmare and Lo on Hell. She also has special rune drop calculations for her bonus rune drops; these do not allow her to drop such high level runes; Io on Nightmare and Ist on Hell. Her odds of dropping a high level rune from her normal drop tables are as astronomical as they are for every other monster in the game. Her odds to drop one from her special rune drop tables are far better. If she drops a rune from her special TC then she drops a rune from "Runes 12" TC. This TC has a 3/5045 chance for Mal and a 2/5045 chance for Ist.
I'm not so sure about this explanation; if this were the case then the rune ranges should be "above Io (r16) are goddamn impossible". But take it as you will. They're both from the samewiki.
This is how I've always understood it. And it's also why she's one of (if not the only) run that's better to do in a solo game. The more people in the game, the lower her chances get of failing her normal drop check. Granted, her normal drop can be slightly higher rune but the drop rate isn't any better than any other monster of her level. What you want is for her to fail as many normal drop checks as possible, because then she checks for her special drop which has a much higher chance of being a rune (albeit with a slightly lower ceiling than her normal drop).
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Goose!That's me, honeyShow me the way home, honeyRegistered Userregular
edited April 2010
I am aware of that, zen, but right now the ali babas are my best weapon. I need a shield, too. So suggest what sword and shield I should go for.
* Normal: El (r01) - Ral (r08).
* Nightmare: El (r01) - Io/Ko (r18); above Io (r16) is much rarer.
* Hell: El (r01) - Ist/Lo (r28); above Ist (r24) is much rarer.
Why are two runes listed as her top drop? She has normal item drops like any other monster; these can go up to the highest runes listed; Ko on Nightmare and Lo on Hell. She also has special rune drop calculations for her bonus rune drops; these do not allow her to drop such high level runes; Io on Nightmare and Ist on Hell. Her odds of dropping a high level rune from her normal drop tables are as astronomical as they are for every other monster in the game. Her odds to drop one from her special rune drop tables are far better. If she drops a rune from her special TC then she drops a rune from "Runes 12" TC. This TC has a 3/5045 chance for Mal and a 2/5045 chance for Ist.
I'm not so sure about this explanation; if this were the case then the rune ranges should be "above Io (r16) are goddamn impossible". But take it as you will. They're both from the samewiki.
This is how I've always understood it. And it's also why she's one of (if not the only) run that's better to do in a solo game. The more people in the game, the lower her chances get of failing her normal drop check. Granted, her normal drop can be slightly higher rune but the drop rate isn't any better than any other monster of her level. What you want is for her to fail as many normal drop checks as possible, because then she checks for her special drop which has a much higher chance of being a rune (albeit with a slightly lower ceiling than her normal drop).
Ughh Deja vu wasn't there a huge argument about this in the last diablo 2 topic? Or maybe it was from another board.
You could throw Ancient's Pledge into a 3 socket shield, that should help a fair bit with those resistances. As for a killing stuff weapon, maybe try and get your hands on a lightsaber, they shouldn't be going for terribly much these days.
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Goose!That's me, honeyShow me the way home, honeyRegistered Userregular
edited April 2010
Hm, I almost grabbed one of those the other day.
If anyone comes across archon plate, plain or 3 socket, please hold onto it for me
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Goose! - Branta
Ringmaster - Sinuath (SC)
Sven - Archcannon
PierceNeck - bl1pjrh
nealcm - nealcm
noobert - ntravis
eelektrik - eelektrik
Morkath - Morkath
Zen Vulgarity - Zenvulgarity
KalTorak - KalTorak
jars - jars
dinoarus - dinoarus2
Mustachio Jones - mustachiojones
Rakai - Rakai (Mostly Hardcore)
Ultimakay - Ultimakay (Softcore)
Tag - Toe_Tag (HC), Tagged (SC)
DanOrc- Danorc4511
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Deswa - Deswa
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Grislo - Grislo4
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goose, i would suggest making yourself a cheap lawbringer for your offhand weapon amn + lem + ko is pretty easy to get ahold of and it does this stuff:
20% Chance To Cast Level 15 Decrepify On Striking
Level 16-18 Sanctuary Aura When Equipped (varies)
-50% Target Defense
Adds 150-210 Fire Damage
Adds 130-180 Cold Damage
7% Life Stolen Per Hit
Slain Monsters Rest In Peace
+200-250 Defense Vs. Missile (varies)
+10 To Dexterity
75% Extra Gold From Monsters
keep in mind this is a highly defensive weapon. the sanctuary aura and -target defense is really good when combined with a high damage mainhand weapon. one thing to note is that im pretty sure that the decrepify (which is what really makes this runeword shine) doesnt proc when attacking with whirlwind. so its pretty build-specific but a very solid early-ladder weapon. also no IAS so you gots to find a fast weapon.
US East
Goose! - Branta
Ringmaster - Sinuath (SC)
Sven - Archcannon
PierceNeck - bl1pjrh
nealcm - nealcm
noobert - ntravis
eelektrik - eelektrik
Morkath - Morkath
Zen Vulgarity - Zenvulgarity
KalTorak - KalTorak
jars - jars
dinoarus - dinoarus2
Mustachio Jones - mustachiojones
Rakai - Rakai (Mostly Hardcore)
Ultimakay - Ultimakay (Softcore)
Tag - Toe_Tag (HC), Tagged (SC)
DanOrc- Danorc4511
No Great Name - nogreatname (hardcore because I am not a bitch)
BahamutZERO - BahamutZERO10 (pretty much just hardcore because NGN beats me when he thinks I was looking at other modes)
Deswa - Deswa
Kivutar - morgant1, etc.
ronya - ronya
Dr_Faust - Dr_Faust
Grislo - Grislo4
lordswing - FlipPaulHewitt
Al_Wat - AWATTS
Big Red Tie - Confrijoles3 and 4 (SC NL)
local flavor police - fortysixand3
US West
Europe
Asia
im giving up 2 lvl 75s, a lvl 60 and a lvl 55 to switch servers... this whole time ive only made one friend worth playing with on West. so fuck it, im switching over and making an orb/somthin else sorc. help would be great
Sadly she dies instantly in the cow level, if her AI capable of dodging cows she's be usable but no.
Or maybe she'll be able to dodge cows with the bow, I dunno. Should I spend my Ko experimenting?
Danorc - Yeah A1 mercs definitely have a better time in Chaos, so that might be worth a shot. You could go cold arrow too so there's less corpses made during Nihl runs.
Ronya - are you using Decoy/Valk as burger bait? I always find youtube videos to be worthless, since they don't use mercs, and just show their Griffons/JMOD packed light facets. Not much more "help" I can be, I usually ran the Pits/Chaos/WSK with my Javazon with decent MF (Tal Armor+Shako+War Travs+Gheeds is a decent MF build for anyone)
e: local flavor police - Don't even start with that, there was a decent split between West and East when 1.12 came out, and I picked West. I have so much shit there now on non-ladder (Auradin, Infinity Sorc, yes, that's right, a Sorc holding an Infinity polearm, a SorcBear project I never completed, Smiter) that I'm still paying for therapy costs (not really).
what you mean "dont even start with that" ive fucking had it all and lost it 4 or 5 times, im not fucking complaining about anything. im just letting the good folks here know that im switching over from West so i can make friends with people who are worth my time and of course some help getting off of my feet would be appreciated. thats all. thats it. stop trying to read between the goddamn lines when there are no lines to read between.
yeah, sorry bout that. i interpreted it as "lawl dis noob tryin to switch realms 4 lotz of free shits" funny thing is i made the same assumptions that i accused you of making about me. my hubris is gonna bite me in the ass someday... but until then, how bout some free shit?
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But that was three years ago SO
If you switch from those baba's your merc will lose the mf and gold find they provide tho.
I remembered Trav taking way too long with Babas for my taste
Shenk/Pindle/Fire Eye all take little time with them though, so YMMV
This is how I've always understood it. And it's also why she's one of (if not the only) run that's better to do in a solo game. The more people in the game, the lower her chances get of failing her normal drop check. Granted, her normal drop can be slightly higher rune but the drop rate isn't any better than any other monster of her level. What you want is for her to fail as many normal drop checks as possible, because then she checks for her special drop which has a much higher chance of being a rune (albeit with a slightly lower ceiling than her normal drop).
Ughh Deja vu wasn't there a huge argument about this in the last diablo 2 topic? Or maybe it was from another board.
If anyone comes across archon plate, plain or 3 socket, please hold onto it for me
I have a sexy ethereal skullders I'm trying to trade for $texas
alphabetically by forum name i fit in before the G's. also, i was on my phone and couldn't scroll to the bottom
Gold finddddddddddd nooooooo
Ye of little faith
20% Chance To Cast Level 15 Decrepify On Striking
Level 16-18 Sanctuary Aura When Equipped (varies)
-50% Target Defense
Adds 150-210 Fire Damage
Adds 130-180 Cold Damage
7% Life Stolen Per Hit
Slain Monsters Rest In Peace
+200-250 Defense Vs. Missile (varies)
+10 To Dexterity
75% Extra Gold From Monsters
keep in mind this is a highly defensive weapon. the sanctuary aura and -target defense is really good when combined with a high damage mainhand weapon. one thing to note is that im pretty sure that the decrepify (which is what really makes this runeword shine) doesnt proc when attacking with whirlwind. so its pretty build-specific but a very solid early-ladder weapon. also no IAS so you gots to find a fast weapon.
Sadly she dies instantly in the cow level, if her AI capable of dodging cows she's be usable but no.
Or maybe she'll be able to dodge cows with the bow, I dunno. Should I spend my Ko experimenting?
im giving up 2 lvl 75s, a lvl 60 and a lvl 55 to switch servers... this whole time ive only made one friend worth playing with on West. so fuck it, im switching over and making an orb/somthin else sorc. help would be great
Danorc - Yeah A1 mercs definitely have a better time in Chaos, so that might be worth a shot. You could go cold arrow too so there's less corpses made during Nihl runs.
Ronya - are you using Decoy/Valk as burger bait? I always find youtube videos to be worthless, since they don't use mercs, and just show their Griffons/JMOD packed light facets. Not much more "help" I can be, I usually ran the Pits/Chaos/WSK with my Javazon with decent MF (Tal Armor+Shako+War Travs+Gheeds is a decent MF build for anyone)
e: local flavor police - Don't even start with that, there was a decent split between West and East when 1.12 came out, and I picked West. I have so much shit there now on non-ladder (Auradin, Infinity Sorc, yes, that's right, a Sorc holding an Infinity polearm, a SorcBear project I never completed, Smiter) that I'm still paying for therapy costs (not really).
EDIT: Slow, sorry, and not really my business anyway. It does seem that 'er' is a good starting point, though.
Also, got the 2 lower level +2 necro skills wands, and a +2 poison/bone skill ammy last night for him. Running norm baal can be useful.
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