Though I will say that it is _amazing_ how many 5man boss mechanics are not well-known.
example 2: Absolutely no one knows that when fighting Xevozz in Heroic Violet Hold, making sure your entire party is out of line of sight of the orbs ensures he will never teleport your group.
example 3: Jousting in H ToC. You don't need to sit on top of the fallen enemies throwing shield breakers. You can only trample them when they attempt to get up which they do every 30 seconds.
Example 2: i did not know this. Though thankfully it's been long time since i've been in a VH group retarded enough to require knowing that.
example 3:i know that, but I don't have a timer in my head, so i will camp them a bit if I think it's somewhere in the vicinity of the time they'll be standing up. Especially if they are close to a mount. I tend to just charge and loop back.
It always amuses me to watch people die to the Poison Nova on Ick. Even the first time you run the place... the cast bar says nova. Didn't we all learn on Murmur that nova = run away
Not only that, but the game tells you in 2 more ways (boss emote and raid warning) to fucking run.
Man if my account got hacked despite having an authenticator and regular password changes, I'm going to be pissed
How can you possibly be hacked with an authenticator?
unless they have some way to hack your authenticator, and I think we went over this that the access window for them to get into your account by hacking an authenticator code is extremely narrow.
not to mention that IF its easy to hack an authenticator, why haven't we heard huge uproars about the occurrence of such, and if its difficult, someone with the skills to do so most likely has better things to do.
Random Happy: Was running regular PoS again on my mage yesterday, we had some confusion early on with two healers until I pointed it out and one of them switched to DPS. I notice that myself and the Resto-turned-Elemental Shaman are pulling fairly easily off (him more than me) the prot pally we have. I then notice the pally has Seal of Wisdom up. We're right before Garfrost and I suggest the pally switch to a damaging seal or she (the character anyway) is never going to hold threat off of us. So she switches to Corruption and we go in, get the boss down just fine.
As we're starting to clear the weird shambler mobs in front of Ick, I've been trying to figure out how she has been pulling things this whole time, when she wasn't using Avenger's Shield for multiple mobs... then I realize, she's running up and stopping to cast Exorcism. A bit odd, so I comment that she can use Hand of Reckoning to pull single mobs that aren't targeting her pretty conveniently since it's off the GCD, costs no mana and has a 30 yard range. This was immensely helpful and the prot pally mentions she hasn't tanked much yet and could use pointers if she's doing things wrong or whatever. So myself and the Ret pally in the group proceed to give some various pointers as we go along, even a quick explanation of the 969 rotation as we're doing the packs of mobs before the ice cave.
Pretty good listener and saw some immediate improvements. She was quite thankful and said how in other groups when she messed something up the group just yelled at her, etc. But hey, it's regular PoS, isn't too big of a deal, so I wasn't really stressed about it. She especially liked my method for gathering up the mobs in the pulls after Ick. Toss Avenger's Shield at the back-right Flamebearer while running at the front-left Flamebearer, which forces the whole group to come together on you, and she pulled it off well.
And then Tyrannus finally dropped the pants I wanted for my mage!
Man if my account got hacked despite having an authenticator and regular password changes, I'm going to be pissed
How can you possibly be hacked with an authenticator?
unless they have some way to hack your authenticator, and I think we went over this that the access window for them to get into your account by hacking an authenticator code is extremely narrow.
not to mention that IF its easy to hack an authenticator, why haven't we heard huge uproars about the occurrence of such, and if its difficult, someone with the skills to do so most likely has better things to do.
all in all, I'm not going to worry.
I have no idea, but according to my guild, all of my characters were logging in and out last night, after I went to sleep, and I'm the only one who uses the account.
Hate: DPS queues. I really wish they had some sort of karma system built into queues so I could get a little love for building a 245+ tank set on my DK and tanking multiple runs a day.
Happy: My BoA geared paladin got carried through the ICC 5 mans by Ishtaar on her super paladin tank and a guild priest.
Hate: Over geared people that like to link damage meters in 5 mans.
Happy: Over geared people that link damage meters that get what they deserve in 5 mans. Congratulations Mr Warlock. You pulled 4500 dps on a ranged friendly fight (Ick) and want to brag it up. I bet you would have done better damage on the third boss if you hadn't got vote kicked at the end of the cave.
Random Happy: Was running regular PoS again on my mage yesterday, we had some confusion early on with two healers until I pointed it out and one of them switched to DPS. I notice that myself and the Resto-turned-Elemental Shaman are pulling fairly easily off (him more than me) the prot pally we have. I then notice the pally has Seal of Wisdom up. We're right before Garfrost and I suggest the pally switch to a damaging seal or she (the character anyway) is never going to hold threat off of us. So she switches to Corruption and we go in, get the boss down just fine.
As we're starting to clear the weird shambler mobs in front of Ick, I've been trying to figure out how she has been pulling things this whole time, when she wasn't using Avenger's Shield for multiple mobs... then I realize, she's running up and stopping to cast Exorcism. A bit odd, so I comment that she can use Hand of Reckoning to pull single mobs that aren't targeting her pretty conveniently since it's off the GCD, costs no mana and has a 30 yard range. This was immensely helpful and the prot pally mentions she hasn't tanked much yet and could use pointers if she's doing things wrong or whatever. So myself and the Ret pally in the group proceed to give some various pointers as we go along, even a quick explanation of the 969 rotation as we're doing the packs of mobs before the ice cave.
Pretty good listener and saw some immediate improvements. She was quite thankful and said how in other groups when she messed something up the group just yelled at her, etc. But hey, it's regular PoS, isn't too big of a deal, so I wasn't really stressed about it. She especially liked my method for gathering up the mobs in the pulls after Ick. Toss Avenger's Shield at the back-right Flamebearer while running at the front-left Flamebearer, which forces the whole group to come together on you, and she pulled it off well.
And then Tyrannus finally dropped the pants I wanted for my mage!
Isn't it great when you run across someone who is merely a newbie instead of a noob?
Random Happy: Was running regular PoS again on my mage yesterday, we had some confusion early on with two healers until I pointed it out and one of them switched to DPS. I notice that myself and the Resto-turned-Elemental Shaman are pulling fairly easily off (him more than me) the prot pally we have. I then notice the pally has Seal of Wisdom up. We're right before Garfrost and I suggest the pally switch to a damaging seal or she (the character anyway) is never going to hold threat off of us. So she switches to Corruption and we go in, get the boss down just fine.
As we're starting to clear the weird shambler mobs in front of Ick, I've been trying to figure out how she has been pulling things this whole time, when she wasn't using Avenger's Shield for multiple mobs... then I realize, she's running up and stopping to cast Exorcism. A bit odd, so I comment that she can use Hand of Reckoning to pull single mobs that aren't targeting her pretty conveniently since it's off the GCD, costs no mana and has a 30 yard range. This was immensely helpful and the prot pally mentions she hasn't tanked much yet and could use pointers if she's doing things wrong or whatever. So myself and the Ret pally in the group proceed to give some various pointers as we go along, even a quick explanation of the 969 rotation as we're doing the packs of mobs before the ice cave.
Pretty good listener and saw some immediate improvements. She was quite thankful and said how in other groups when she messed something up the group just yelled at her, etc. But hey, it's regular PoS, isn't too big of a deal, so I wasn't really stressed about it. She especially liked my method for gathering up the mobs in the pulls after Ick. Toss Avenger's Shield at the back-right Flamebearer while running at the front-left Flamebearer, which forces the whole group to come together on you, and she pulled it off well.
And then Tyrannus finally dropped the pants I wanted for my mage!
Isn't it great when you run across someone who is merely a newbie instead of a noob?
:^: seriously, I enjoy these stories too much, almost certainly due to their relative rarity.
Yeah, I've been pugging waay too much for a few weeks now and have had multiple positive experiences like that.
Of course, then negative ones stick a bit longer in the memory.
Like my AN DK tank. With the 3 packs before the first boss, he drops a death and decay directly on the mobs to pull them back, effectively generating near zero AOE threat since they only took one tick. The healer pulls aggro (Not a skirmisher).
So we're sitting there and the boss sends in the next wave. He proceeds to yell at the group "IF YOU PULL YOU TANK IT". I was on my mage, so I did a bit of CC and he eventually picked it all up.
On the second boss, we spent the entire fight with him trying to drop death and decay on single adds coming up the web. He missed EVERY time. He then did a full 180 with a keyboard turn and got to the mob about the time we had killed it. This happened 4 times?
For some reason on the last pack, after again yelling at us for "pulling" mobs that were being sent at us, he decided to stay down the ramp and aggro'd the boss before the doors were webbed. We spent probably 30 seconds telling him to back up the web but he didn't listen. He then proceeded to yell that he didn't know why the boss did that and it's never happened before.
Ah well, we vote kicked him and got a polite bear to finish the instance with.
I don't mind bad players. I tolerate decent players that are assholes (most of the time). I absolutely despise bad players that are assholes.
Lol: I got booted from a scrub H PoS this weekend on the first boss because of my failure as a healer... my only guess for thier minds. We had a hunter who didnt reset his debuff. A tank who let an add stay on me for most of the fight despite my protest. People not dodging rocks etc...
Also I was doing randoms with 3 other guildies. We ended up getting a plate tank with almost 50k hp so we thought this was going to be a nice easy run. One of the guildies asks for vig to which the tank replies "You can have this dick" or something like that. The tank also had a macro/mod that said "You spank it you tank it" when someone other than him in the group had agro. So when we got to the first boss and he charged in we simply ran for the entrance.
Happy: Finally got my 245 bracers and Nevermelting Crystal for my lock. Also got a nice Frost Needle on my first ICC10 run. That made me break 5k gearscore with ease finally.
I wouldn't even know what my gear score is ... but seeing how anyone can just buy almost top of the line gear now it means even less than whatever people thought it meant before now
I wouldn't even know what my gear score is ... but seeing how anyone can just buy almost top of the line gear now it means even less than whatever people thought it meant before now
The only buyable gear the doesn't take weeks of farming raids and random heroics is very firmly middle of the line.
I wouldn't even know what my gear score is ... but seeing how anyone can just buy almost top of the line gear now it means even less than whatever people thought it meant before now
The only buyable gear the doesn't take weeks of farming raids and random heroics is very firmly middle of the line.
Random heroics aren't that hard to farm. I farmed up the rest of my pvp gear and got 4 pieces of prot t9 gear in only a few days worth of heroics.
also: i am near to having enough frost emblems for another upgrade after being really casual about doing random heroics each day.
I wouldn't even know what my gear score is ... but seeing how anyone can just buy almost top of the line gear now it means even less than whatever people thought it meant before now
The only buyable gear the doesn't take weeks of farming raids and random heroics is very firmly middle of the line.
Random heroics aren't that hard to farm. I farmed up the rest of my pvp gear and got 4 pieces of prot t9 gear in only a few days worth of heroics.
Right, and T9 232 gear is not "almost top of the line." Maybe it was before 3.3 but back then it was harder to get too. Sure, it's great for someone only running heroics, but if they're not getting into your raids and sucking it up, does it matter? A raider will still have better gear to flex over.
How does gearscore even work? Looking at wow-heroes.com it's telling me I'm at 2500 from gear + 135 from enchants.
Does gearscore addon also add in gems and crap? Cuz if you had all 15 slots of equipment with ilvl 245 you only get 3675. To break 5000 you'd need to be fully decked in ilvl 334 /headscratch.
Sorry I feel like I didn't get my point across. I wasn't trying to argue the awesomeness of badge t9. I was trying to point out how it invalidates gear score since it essentially resets the progression. Gear score now will pretty much give you one of 3 numbers. A real low number you can assume is a fresh 80 but a real high number doesn't mean someone has been raiding for the top of the line gear so much as it means they've been enjoying the new LFD. A gear score for a full time raider will be higher but I don't know if it's a noticeably higher number or not.
Point being it's not really a good tool to figure out someone's progression/sense of the content/ability to work in larger groups, but I guess that point has always applied.
And yes sorry I might be acting a bit elitest but I'm even upset that my own soon to be 80 alt can skip straight to the third tier of wrath content within a few days of hitting level cap. I miss that sense of progression that I felt in BC. Then again that might have to do with so few people running early wrath content anymore outside of weekly raid quests whereas at least where I play even top guilds where still doing Kara, ZA and the like at the end of the xpac just because everyone loved doing those instances
Guy: "Forming Sarth10 raid. PST achivement" Me:I'm bored so I figure I'll help some people with an easy raid. I whisper Sarth25 as that's the only one I've ever done since my guild is a 25man raiding guild. Guy:"Not 25, send your 10 man one". Me:"I've never done it on 10, only 25".Guy:"well i only want people that know the fight in 10man". Also of note, he was doing it with 0 drakes up.
Sorry I feel like I didn't get my point across. I wasn't trying to argue the awesomeness of badge t9. I was trying to point out how it invalidates gear score since it essentially resets the progression. Gear score now will pretty much give you one of 3 numbers. A real low number you can assume is a fresh 80 but a real high number doesn't mean someone has been raiding for the top of the line gear so much as it means they've been enjoying the new LFD. A gear score for a full time raider will be higher but I don't know if it's a noticeably higher number or not.
Point being it's not really a good tool to figure out someone's progression/sense of the content/ability to work in larger groups, but I guess that point has always applied.
And yes sorry I might be acting a bit elitest but I'm even upset that my own soon to be 80 alt can skip straight to the third tier of wrath content within a few days of hitting level cap. I miss that sense of progression that I felt in BC. Then again that might have to do with so few people running early wrath content anymore outside of weekly raid quests whereas at least where I play even top guilds where still doing Kara, ZA and the like at the end of the xpac just because everyone loved doing those instances
Gear progression in BC was like seeing a screen that says "Now try playing on [Hard/Very Hard/Retarded Hard/Fucking Impossible] Mode for the REAL ending!"
No, fuck you. I pay fifteen fucking dollars a month plus the cost of the actual game. I don't expect to be handed the top of the line stuff, but if you're gonna move the goalpost, don't make EVERYONE go farther. Sure, YOU think it's unfair that you're in t10 but the fresh 80 is in t9 already. But in the old days, you were in t6 and he was in tier "Fuck you, 5 more badges for an epic!"
Gear progression in BC was like seeing a screen that says "Now try playing on [Hard/Very Hard/Retarded Hard/Fucking Impossible] Mode for the REAL ending!"
No, fuck you. I pay fifteen fucking dollars a month plus the cost of the actual game. I don't expect to be handed the top of the line stuff, but if you're gonna move the goalpost, don't make EVERYONE go farther. Sure, YOU think it's unfair that you're in t10 but the fresh 80 is in t9 already. But in the old days, you were in t6 and he was in tier "Fuck you, 5 more badges for an epic!"
Man, I hated that tier. Though to be honest, I had a Warlock in lol'best in slot for a long time' Frozen Shadoweave.
God I hated losing the last of those pieces in Northrend... though after 3.0 I suppose they weren't really as good as when they were pure shadow damage anyway.
My intent wasnt to start up gearscore war again sorry. I have it loaded so I can send the noncense score to other people. A better happy would be simply to state I got my first 251 and got rid of my last 200 lvl purps that were bringing me down.
Happy: Up to 70 mounts. No idea why I ever thought collecting them all was a good idea.
Happy: Also up to 15 Exalted Reputations.
Hope: I can get some time to finish up the Blackrock instances and Uldaman for Classic Dungeonmaster.
Hate: In powering through all these old dungeons and quests, I get this all the time: Inventory is full. Inventory is full. Inventory is full.
If, god forbid, my server adopts gearscore and someone ever asks me for my gearscore, the answer I have ready is "Well, I have gear every slot, so 16? Does my shirt count?"
Right, and T9 232 gear is not "almost top of the line." Maybe it was before 3.3 but back then it was harder to get too. Sure, it's great for someone only running heroics, but if they're not getting into your raids and sucking it up, does it matter? A raider will still have better gear to flex over.
I don't know what game you are playing but tier 9 is what people just starting ICC are wearing.
that is what the "almost" means in "almost top of the line".
From my first forays into ICC 10 they are definatly built to be gear checks as well as a basic raid check. Fights like Deathwisper and Saurfang can be unforgiving. People will be able to out gear it eventually but anything you get from just triumph badges alone wont be enough to outgear/zerg things. At least from what I have seen.
From my first forays into ICC 10 they are definatly built to be gear checks as well as a basic raid check. Fights like Deathwisper and Saurfang can be unforgiving. People will be able to out gear it eventually but anything you get from just triumph badges alone wont be enough to outgear/zerg things. At least from what I have seen.
Luckily you can PUG HToC10 in a couple of hours to give you a boost.
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Example 2: i did not know this. Though thankfully it's been long time since i've been in a VH group retarded enough to require knowing that.
example 3:i know that, but I don't have a timer in my head, so i will camp them a bit if I think it's somewhere in the vicinity of the time they'll be standing up. Especially if they are close to a mount. I tend to just charge and loop back.
Not only that, but the game tells you in 2 more ways (boss emote and raid warning) to fucking run.
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we learned this?
How can you possibly be hacked with an authenticator?
unless they have some way to hack your authenticator, and I think we went over this that the access window for them to get into your account by hacking an authenticator code is extremely narrow.
not to mention that IF its easy to hack an authenticator, why haven't we heard huge uproars about the occurrence of such, and if its difficult, someone with the skills to do so most likely has better things to do.
all in all, I'm not going to worry.
As we're starting to clear the weird shambler mobs in front of Ick, I've been trying to figure out how she has been pulling things this whole time, when she wasn't using Avenger's Shield for multiple mobs... then I realize, she's running up and stopping to cast Exorcism. A bit odd, so I comment that she can use Hand of Reckoning to pull single mobs that aren't targeting her pretty conveniently since it's off the GCD, costs no mana and has a 30 yard range. This was immensely helpful and the prot pally mentions she hasn't tanked much yet and could use pointers if she's doing things wrong or whatever. So myself and the Ret pally in the group proceed to give some various pointers as we go along, even a quick explanation of the 969 rotation as we're doing the packs of mobs before the ice cave.
Pretty good listener and saw some immediate improvements. She was quite thankful and said how in other groups when she messed something up the group just yelled at her, etc. But hey, it's regular PoS, isn't too big of a deal, so I wasn't really stressed about it. She especially liked my method for gathering up the mobs in the pulls after Ick. Toss Avenger's Shield at the back-right Flamebearer while running at the front-left Flamebearer, which forces the whole group to come together on you, and she pulled it off well.
And then Tyrannus finally dropped the pants I wanted for my mage!
I have no idea, but according to my guild, all of my characters were logging in and out last night, after I went to sleep, and I'm the only one who uses the account.
Happy: My BoA geared paladin got carried through the ICC 5 mans by Ishtaar on her super paladin tank and a guild priest.
Hate: Over geared people that like to link damage meters in 5 mans.
Happy: Over geared people that link damage meters that get what they deserve in 5 mans. Congratulations Mr Warlock. You pulled 4500 dps on a ranged friendly fight (Ick) and want to brag it up. I bet you would have done better damage on the third boss if you hadn't got vote kicked at the end of the cave.
Which isn't so often, since I only run heroics and everything dies so fast.
:^: seriously, I enjoy these stories too much, almost certainly due to their relative rarity.
Of course, then negative ones stick a bit longer in the memory.
Like my AN DK tank. With the 3 packs before the first boss, he drops a death and decay directly on the mobs to pull them back, effectively generating near zero AOE threat since they only took one tick. The healer pulls aggro (Not a skirmisher).
So we're sitting there and the boss sends in the next wave. He proceeds to yell at the group "IF YOU PULL YOU TANK IT". I was on my mage, so I did a bit of CC and he eventually picked it all up.
On the second boss, we spent the entire fight with him trying to drop death and decay on single adds coming up the web. He missed EVERY time. He then did a full 180 with a keyboard turn and got to the mob about the time we had killed it. This happened 4 times?
For some reason on the last pack, after again yelling at us for "pulling" mobs that were being sent at us, he decided to stay down the ramp and aggro'd the boss before the doors were webbed. We spent probably 30 seconds telling him to back up the web but he didn't listen. He then proceeded to yell that he didn't know why the boss did that and it's never happened before.
Ah well, we vote kicked him and got a polite bear to finish the instance with.
I don't mind bad players. I tolerate decent players that are assholes (most of the time). I absolutely despise bad players that are assholes.
Also I was doing randoms with 3 other guildies. We ended up getting a plate tank with almost 50k hp so we thought this was going to be a nice easy run. One of the guildies asks for vig to which the tank replies "You can have this dick" or something like that. The tank also had a macro/mod that said "You spank it you tank it" when someone other than him in the group had agro. So when we got to the first boss and he charged in we simply ran for the entrance.
Happy: Finally got my 245 bracers and Nevermelting Crystal for my lock. Also got a nice Frost Needle on my first ICC10 run. That made me break 5k gearscore with ease finally.
They use it for the pugs on my server. I personally am a fan of user ability over gearing but WoW hasnt been that way for a long time now.
The only buyable gear the doesn't take weeks of farming raids and random heroics is very firmly middle of the line.
Random heroics aren't that hard to farm. I farmed up the rest of my pvp gear and got 4 pieces of prot t9 gear in only a few days worth of heroics.
also: i am near to having enough frost emblems for another upgrade after being really casual about doing random heroics each day.
Right, and T9 232 gear is not "almost top of the line." Maybe it was before 3.3 but back then it was harder to get too. Sure, it's great for someone only running heroics, but if they're not getting into your raids and sucking it up, does it matter? A raider will still have better gear to flex over.
Does gearscore addon also add in gems and crap? Cuz if you had all 15 slots of equipment with ilvl 245 you only get 3675. To break 5000 you'd need to be fully decked in ilvl 334 /headscratch.
So Gearscore is probably using arbitrary coefficients?
Hope: Guy who wrote gearscore gets his account hacked. Hearing about gearscore is just annoying.
Happy: Got my merrymaker title this morning \o/
Point being it's not really a good tool to figure out someone's progression/sense of the content/ability to work in larger groups, but I guess that point has always applied.
And yes sorry I might be acting a bit elitest but I'm even upset that my own soon to be 80 alt can skip straight to the third tier of wrath content within a few days of hitting level cap. I miss that sense of progression that I felt in BC. Then again that might have to do with so few people running early wrath content anymore outside of weekly raid quests whereas at least where I play even top guilds where still doing Kara, ZA and the like at the end of the xpac just because everyone loved doing those instances
Gear progression in BC was like seeing a screen that says "Now try playing on [Hard/Very Hard/Retarded Hard/Fucking Impossible] Mode for the REAL ending!"
No, fuck you. I pay fifteen fucking dollars a month plus the cost of the actual game. I don't expect to be handed the top of the line stuff, but if you're gonna move the goalpost, don't make EVERYONE go farther. Sure, YOU think it's unfair that you're in t10 but the fresh 80 is in t9 already. But in the old days, you were in t6 and he was in tier "Fuck you, 5 more badges for an epic!"
Man, I hated that tier. Though to be honest, I had a Warlock in lol'best in slot for a long time' Frozen Shadoweave.
God I hated losing the last of those pieces in Northrend... though after 3.0 I suppose they weren't really as good as when they were pure shadow damage anyway.
Happy: Also up to 15 Exalted Reputations.
Hope: I can get some time to finish up the Blackrock instances and Uldaman for Classic Dungeonmaster.
Hate: In powering through all these old dungeons and quests, I get this all the time: Inventory is full. Inventory is full. Inventory is full.
I don't know what game you are playing but tier 9 is what people just starting ICC are wearing.
that is what the "almost" means in "almost top of the line".
there you go