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I am a die-hard IE 7 fan, having tried opera and firefox (and disliking them).
I do loves me the Gmail though, and Google itself is my home page for life.
I'm interested in:
-Is Chrome by nature a "safer" browser than IE7? Or is it just as vulnerable to malware/spyware/virus contagion?
-Is Chrome truly that much "faster" and largely "easier" to use than IE7 as it claims to be?
-What are your biggest likes that Chrome offers which IE7 does not?
-Any complaints about Chrome thus far?
Why don't you try it for yourself? It's a few clicks away...
I found that Chrome really did render pages faster. At least faster than firefox and tended to not crash in the long run (FF tends to swallow up my megabities). I stopped using it because I'm a web developer and firebug and the web developer toolbar are a huge asset (plus it would often have trouble loading up my facebook page).
Edit: I liked how chrome had a sleak interface. It didn't waste as much space as the other browsers which left a lot of room for the viewport. I also loved that it rendered pages lightning fast (supposedly due to their javascript engine which runs in it's own thread) but due to it crashing on facebook and the lack of 3rd party plugins I switched back to FF. I'll probably go back once it matures since I really did think it was faster.
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Something I've always admired about Chrome is how each tab runs in its own process. So basically if you load some page that's full of garbage or something, it only locks up that tab instead of the whole browser. To the best of my knowledge IE and FF haven't picked up on that yet.
Huh, i guess a majority of it is personal preference. The reasons I use chrome over other browsers:
-Lightweight. It loads very fast, and has a smaller memory footprint compared to other browsers.
-Speed. I dunno what kind of black magic Google did, but its HTML and Javascript engine is fast.
-Minimalism. The tab/address bar doesn't take up much space, leaving more room for the website itself.
-Ease of use: Upon startup and opening a new tab, Chrome automatically presents a selection of your most commonly visited sites, along with a list of recently closed tabs. Very useful. Also, the address bar not only doubles as a search bar, but it automatically fills in the rest of the address as you type. For instance, instead of having to type out 'www.facebook.com', I just type 'f' and chrome fills out the rest for me.
The only reason I ever go into IE anymore is if I get a site that just won't render correctly with Chrome... of which there are two I need to use on a regular basis - accessing my company intranet from home and my online education classes. Other than that, Chrome gets used for everything.
Worth trying out - it may take a few minutes to get used to the look, but it's worth doing
Pretty much everything is less vunerable to spyware/malware/viruses, IE is the most common browser as such its the one most of this stuff targets.
Chrome is great, I used to use firefox and I've been happier since I switched to chrome. It's simple and idiot proof and the interface is less cluttered than everything else.
The only thing I don't like is that the spell checker can be pretty shitty many times not suggesting the most obvious (and the right) corrections. But this isn't always the case since my friends seems to work better than mine.
The only downside to chrome is the lack of adblock, but that's as compared to firefox not IE. There is no reason not to use it over IE apart from learning a couple of new things, it really is better than IE in pretty much every way.
I just downloaded it for the Mac and have had the same experiences as with Windows. That is to say it is fast - faster than FireFox.
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Apothe0sisHave you ever questioned the nature of your reality?Registered Userregular
edited December 2009
How could anyone be a fan of Exploder? It's like being a fan of dial up.
Chrome is safer, faster, better. It currently lacks extensions which the 'fox/'weasel do not, but IE lacks them too. If you're getting by without extensions anyway, there should be almost nothing keeping you there.
Something I've always admired about Chrome is how each tab runs in its own process. So basically if you load some page that's full of garbage or something, it only locks up that tab instead of the whole browser. To the best of my knowledge IE and FF haven't picked up on that yet.
Something I've always admired about Chrome is how each tab runs in its own process. So basically if you load some page that's full of garbage or something, it only locks up that tab instead of the whole browser. To the best of my knowledge IE and FF haven't picked up on that yet.
Whoa whoa whoa
Seriously?
Yeah, they explain it in the chrome comic - also if one of your tabs starting trying to download something to your computer (malware/whatnot) chrome just automatically locks it out and kills it or something..
edit: for clarity, that is assuming you didn't ask for it to download it.
Something I've always admired about Chrome is how each tab runs in its own process. So basically if you load some page that's full of garbage or something, it only locks up that tab instead of the whole browser. To the best of my knowledge IE and FF haven't picked up on that yet.
Whoa whoa whoa
Seriously?
theoretically, yes. In my experience though, when one tab locks up the whole thing asplodes.
I use it daily in Vista and on Ubuntu at home and I like it despite instabilities (I was using the dev build for a while and now I'm back on the beta channel which is a lot more stable). It opens and renders significantly faster than IE7 or 8.
Another great thing with Chrome is how it saves a website's search function.
For example, I can type into Chrome "wiki" and then hit TAB, then type whatever I want to search for in Wikipedia right into the address bar.
This is probably my favorite feature over Firefox.
you can do this in both opera and firefox as well but it takes a bit more setting up.
Also I love that I've set the default search site for when I just type something in the address bar and click enter is google. So like, I never go to google's site any more cause it's built into my browser
Another great thing with Chrome is how it saves a website's search function.
For example, I can type into Chrome "wiki" and then hit TAB, then type whatever I want to search for in Wikipedia right into the address bar.
This is probably my favorite feature over Firefox.
you can do this in both opera and firefox as well but it takes a bit more setting up.
Also I love that I've set the default search site for when I just type something in the address bar and click enter is google. So like, I never go to google's site any more cause it's built into my browser
You can do this in both Opera and Firefox as well but it takes a bit more setting up.
-Is Chrome by nature a "safer" browser than IE7? Or is it just as vulnerable to malware/spyware/virus contagion?
Yes and no. Chrome doesn't use ActiveX (A microsoft technology), which has a long and torrid history of malware/hacking associated with it. However, Chrome like all browsers has security flaws that can be exploited. Most of the security issues associated with IE7 are borne out of user-error, and users being retarded, rather than the browser itself having some failing or flaw.
Short answer: kinda
-Is Chrome truly that much "faster" and largely "easier" to use than IE7 as it claims to be?
It's much much faster in most categories. Internet Explorer has unbelievably slow javascript processing, and Chome has one of the fastest.
How could anyone be a fan of Exploder? It's like being a fan of dial up.
Chrome is safer, faster, better. It currently lacks extensions which the 'fox/'weasel do not, but IE lacks them too. If you're getting by without extensions anyway, there should be almost nothing keeping you there.
I'm currently running chrome with adthwart, gmail checker, google reader checker, tasks, and send by gmail.
Theres even an extension that displays a web page with IE in a google chrome tab, thus removing the need to ever use IE.
You know, it's not like AIDS. If you don't like it you can just uninstall it.
I use Chrome and I think it's great. It's personal preference, really.
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KalTorakOne way or another, they all end up inthe Undercity.Registered Userregular
edited December 2009
I'm sort of mid-transition to Chrome at the moment- since the Mac version is still in beta none of the extensions work, so I've been using Chrome for the forums and normal browsing and Firefox for more questionable sites that I need Adblock for.
How could anyone be a fan of Exploder? It's like being a fan of dial up.
Chrome is safer, faster, better. It currently lacks extensions which the 'fox/'weasel do not, but IE lacks them too. If you're getting by without extensions anyway, there should be almost nothing keeping you there.
Just wanted to point out that this is not necessarily true. IE8 is awesome and as safe as any other browser. It's true that its popularity means it will be attacked more than anything else, but unless its sandbox is found lacking it is as secure as Chrome if not moreso.
The only problem with IE8 is its javascript engine and peoples gross misunderstanding of web security.
People seem to forget (or never knew to begin with) that it was not very long ago that Webkit/Safari was the most ridiculously easy to hack browser in the world, not IE8 (although IE8 is still vulnerable, just not as laughably easy).
How does someone try Opera and not like it. It has such a nice user experience and smooth, buttery scrolling.
That's pretty much my main beef with Chrome. It just has the feel of something made by a team of engineers with practically no input from anyone with any knowledge of usability.
The scrolling in Chrome is especially abhorrent. It is so jerky that it literally hurts to use. Opera has super smooth scrolling, IE has smooth scrolling, Firefox has smooth scrolling (that you have to enable, but at least the option is there). Chrome has eye-rape.
How does someone try Opera and not like it. It has such a nice user experience and smooth, buttery scrolling.
That's pretty much my main beef with Chrome. It just has the feel of something made by a team of engineers with practically no input from anyone with any knowledge of usability.
The scrolling in Chrome is especially abhorrent. It is so jerky that it literally hurts to use. Opera has super smooth scrolling, IE has smooth scrolling, Firefox has smooth scrolling (that you have to enable, but at least the option is there). Chrome has eye-rape.
I've been using Chrome for months and completely disagree with you. The scrolling doesn't seem strange to me at all and it certainly doesn't "literally hurt".
And, I love how it looks. It isn't as bulky as the other browsers.
User experience is subjective and varies by person? Shocking.
The scrolling difference is subtle, but it's there if you look for it. If it doesn't bother you, then that's great. It bothers me and to be honest, if every other browser implements smoothing and yours doesn't, that's a minus.
I've actually used Chrome exclusively for 2 months, and just recently switched to Opera. I've used for years Firefox before that and obviously IE way back when it was pretty much the only browser option.
I've also been comparing browsers head-to-head lately (because Firefox keeps locking up my system - some weird hardware/software issue that I can't nail down) and in terms of user experience Chrome is just poor. Yes extra screen space is nice. But you're going to have to scroll anyways so it's not much of a gain. I also like the unified URL/Search bar less and less. It's fine 99% of the time, but really, having a separate URL and Search field is simpler and takes the same amount of space.
The scrolling difference is subtle, but it's there if you look for it. If it doesn't bother you, then that's great. It bothers me and to be honest, if every other browser implements smoothing and yours doesn't, that's a minus.
I've actually used Chrome exclusively for 2 months, and just recently switched to Opera. I've used for years Firefox before that and obviously IE way back when it was pretty much the only browser option.
I've also been comparing browsers head-to-head lately (because Firefox keeps locking up my system - some weird hardware/software issue that I can't nail down) and in terms of user experience Chrome is just poor. Yes extra screen space is nice. But you're going to have to scroll anyways so it's not much of a gain. I also like the unified URL/Search bar less and less. It's fine 99% of the time, but really, having a separate URL and Search field is simpler and takes the same amount of space.
You're still doing it. You don't like the user experience =/= the user experience is poor.
It seems that more people than just me don't have a problem with the scrolling, so that seems to be an issue only for you. I also prefer the unified URL/search bar to separate ones, so I disagree with you there.
Once again, you not liking something =/= it is bad. It just means you don't like it, which is fine, but you can't talk about user experience in objective terms.
Things I love about Chrome :
+The unified URL/search bar. Makes life a lot easier for me.
+Speed. I just did a comparison with IE and it loads most of my pages significantly faster.
+I really like how and where the bookmark bar is located. Also that the little star shows you if a page is already bookmarked.
+Simple. Right now I only have to look at Back/Forward, Refresh, the "Add Bookmark" button, and then on the other corner the Page Options, Tools, and Bookmarks buttons. That's 7 buttons total for the whole browser. Compare that to the 14 that show in IE for me, as well as the search bar. Sure, some of that can be turned off. It just makes it hard to use when you do. Chrome runs smoothly with this few buttons.
+I've never had Chrome crash. Maybe I'm just lucky, but yeah. IE and Firefox both crashed on me pretty often.
+It runs Wave better than any other browser.
Things that I think are not so great about Chrome:
-Not a whole lot of add-ons/plug-ins, though that has been fixed recently and will continue to get better.
-I have run into 1 page that doesn't work with Chrome. I guess that's a minus, but not a huge deal.
There's probably enough info in here that I don't need to throw in my 2 cents, but here they are anyway. I've been using Chrome since it came out, and I've never considered switching back to Firefox, let alone IE. It's so fast and clean and efficient. The auto-complete in the address bar is wonderful. native in-line spell checking is too. I also love the "incognito mode" for when I want to browse without leaving history or cookies. the "find" function is nice too, how it highlights all instances of the word and lets you scroll through them. The browser also looks very snappy and clean natively, and skins for it are 2 clicks away. There is still the rare website that won't work 100% right on it though. In such cases I have to fire up an IE tab.
The only downside to chrome is the lack of adblock, but that's as compared to firefox not IE. There is no reason not to use it over IE apart from learning a couple of new things, it really is better than IE in pretty much every way.
For clarity there is adblocker (and many other extensions) in chrome you just need to be using the beta version.
Something I've always admired about Chrome is how each tab runs in its own process. So basically if you load some page that's full of garbage or something, it only locks up that tab instead of the whole browser. To the best of my knowledge IE and FF haven't picked up on that yet.
IE8 does the same thing. In my experience, it actually does it better, which I've found surprising.
I really like Chrome. With a few exceptions, I've been using just it (on the dev channel) since it came out. I've got a bunch of extensions and userscripts going on, plus bookmark syncing. Lots of fun.
Some extensions you might like to start off with:
Google Quick Scroll - once you click on a Google result, it'll have a little window on the bottom-right allowing you to skip directly to your search terms on the page
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I found that Chrome really did render pages faster. At least faster than firefox and tended to not crash in the long run (FF tends to swallow up my megabities). I stopped using it because I'm a web developer and firebug and the web developer toolbar are a huge asset (plus it would often have trouble loading up my facebook page).
Edit: I liked how chrome had a sleak interface. It didn't waste as much space as the other browsers which left a lot of room for the viewport. I also loved that it rendered pages lightning fast (supposedly due to their javascript engine which runs in it's own thread) but due to it crashing on facebook and the lack of 3rd party plugins I switched back to FF. I'll probably go back once it matures since I really did think it was faster.
-Lightweight. It loads very fast, and has a smaller memory footprint compared to other browsers.
-Speed. I dunno what kind of black magic Google did, but its HTML and Javascript engine is fast.
-Minimalism. The tab/address bar doesn't take up much space, leaving more room for the website itself.
-Ease of use: Upon startup and opening a new tab, Chrome automatically presents a selection of your most commonly visited sites, along with a list of recently closed tabs. Very useful. Also, the address bar not only doubles as a search bar, but it automatically fills in the rest of the address as you type. For instance, instead of having to type out 'www.facebook.com', I just type 'f' and chrome fills out the rest for me.
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The only reason I ever go into IE anymore is if I get a site that just won't render correctly with Chrome... of which there are two I need to use on a regular basis - accessing my company intranet from home and my online education classes. Other than that, Chrome gets used for everything.
Worth trying out - it may take a few minutes to get used to the look, but it's worth doing
For example, I can type into Chrome "wiki" and then hit TAB, then type whatever I want to search for in Wikipedia right into the address bar.
Chrome is great, I used to use firefox and I've been happier since I switched to chrome. It's simple and idiot proof and the interface is less cluttered than everything else.
The only thing I don't like is that the spell checker can be pretty shitty many times not suggesting the most obvious (and the right) corrections. But this isn't always the case since my friends seems to work better than mine.
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Chrome is safer, faster, better. It currently lacks extensions which the 'fox/'weasel do not, but IE lacks them too. If you're getting by without extensions anyway, there should be almost nothing keeping you there.
There's a web comic explaining why google chrome is awesome if you prefer your information directly from the mouth of the beast.
http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/
Whoa whoa whoa
Seriously?
This is probably my favorite feature over Firefox.
Yeah, they explain it in the chrome comic - also if one of your tabs starting trying to download something to your computer (malware/whatnot) chrome just automatically locks it out and kills it or something..
edit: for clarity, that is assuming you didn't ask for it to download it.
theoretically, yes. In my experience though, when one tab locks up the whole thing asplodes.
I use it daily in Vista and on Ubuntu at home and I like it despite instabilities (I was using the dev build for a while and now I'm back on the beta channel which is a lot more stable). It opens and renders significantly faster than IE7 or 8.
you can do this in both opera and firefox as well but it takes a bit more setting up.
Also I love that I've set the default search site for when I just type something in the address bar and click enter is google. So like, I never go to google's site any more cause it's built into my browser
You can do this in both Opera and Firefox as well but it takes a bit more setting up.
Yes and no. Chrome doesn't use ActiveX (A microsoft technology), which has a long and torrid history of malware/hacking associated with it. However, Chrome like all browsers has security flaws that can be exploited. Most of the security issues associated with IE7 are borne out of user-error, and users being retarded, rather than the browser itself having some failing or flaw.
Short answer: kinda
It's much much faster in most categories. Internet Explorer has unbelievably slow javascript processing, and Chome has one of the fastest.
"easier" is a frame of mind.
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I'm currently running chrome with adthwart, gmail checker, google reader checker, tasks, and send by gmail.
Theres even an extension that displays a web page with IE in a google chrome tab, thus removing the need to ever use IE.
https://chrome.google.com/extensions
I use Chrome and I think it's great. It's personal preference, really.
Just wanted to point out that this is not necessarily true. IE8 is awesome and as safe as any other browser. It's true that its popularity means it will be attacked more than anything else, but unless its sandbox is found lacking it is as secure as Chrome if not moreso.
People seem to forget (or never knew to begin with) that it was not very long ago that Webkit/Safari was the most ridiculously easy to hack browser in the world, not IE8 (although IE8 is still vulnerable, just not as laughably easy).
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Pwn2Own-CanSecWest-2009,7322.html
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That's pretty much my main beef with Chrome. It just has the feel of something made by a team of engineers with practically no input from anyone with any knowledge of usability.
The scrolling in Chrome is especially abhorrent. It is so jerky that it literally hurts to use. Opera has super smooth scrolling, IE has smooth scrolling, Firefox has smooth scrolling (that you have to enable, but at least the option is there). Chrome has eye-rape.
I've been using Chrome for months and completely disagree with you. The scrolling doesn't seem strange to me at all and it certainly doesn't "literally hurt".
And, I love how it looks. It isn't as bulky as the other browsers.
User experience is subjective and varies by person? Shocking.
Opera feels like a DOS game at half-speed.
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I've actually used Chrome exclusively for 2 months, and just recently switched to Opera. I've used for years Firefox before that and obviously IE way back when it was pretty much the only browser option.
I've also been comparing browsers head-to-head lately (because Firefox keeps locking up my system - some weird hardware/software issue that I can't nail down) and in terms of user experience Chrome is just poor. Yes extra screen space is nice. But you're going to have to scroll anyways so it's not much of a gain. I also like the unified URL/Search bar less and less. It's fine 99% of the time, but really, having a separate URL and Search field is simpler and takes the same amount of space.
You're still doing it. You don't like the user experience =/= the user experience is poor.
It seems that more people than just me don't have a problem with the scrolling, so that seems to be an issue only for you. I also prefer the unified URL/search bar to separate ones, so I disagree with you there.
Once again, you not liking something =/= it is bad. It just means you don't like it, which is fine, but you can't talk about user experience in objective terms.
Things I love about Chrome :
+The unified URL/search bar. Makes life a lot easier for me.
+Speed. I just did a comparison with IE and it loads most of my pages significantly faster.
+I really like how and where the bookmark bar is located. Also that the little star shows you if a page is already bookmarked.
+Simple. Right now I only have to look at Back/Forward, Refresh, the "Add Bookmark" button, and then on the other corner the Page Options, Tools, and Bookmarks buttons. That's 7 buttons total for the whole browser. Compare that to the 14 that show in IE for me, as well as the search bar. Sure, some of that can be turned off. It just makes it hard to use when you do. Chrome runs smoothly with this few buttons.
+I've never had Chrome crash. Maybe I'm just lucky, but yeah. IE and Firefox both crashed on me pretty often.
+It runs Wave better than any other browser.
Things that I think are not so great about Chrome:
-Not a whole lot of add-ons/plug-ins, though that has been fixed recently and will continue to get better.
-I have run into 1 page that doesn't work with Chrome. I guess that's a minus, but not a huge deal.
For clarity there is adblocker (and many other extensions) in chrome you just need to be using the beta version.
IE8 does the same thing. In my experience, it actually does it better, which I've found surprising.
I really like Chrome. With a few exceptions, I've been using just it (on the dev channel) since it came out. I've got a bunch of extensions and userscripts going on, plus bookmark syncing. Lots of fun.
Some extensions you might like to start off with: