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The best English cider?

MindLibMindLib Registered User regular
edited December 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
Recently I bought myself a six pack of Strongbow, a dry cider imported from England. I've tried cider before but the American brands are always so sweet, not my bag, the Strongbow was sexy. My question is simple, and I suppose is aimed at the English posters here, what is your favorite dry cider? Any Americans here know some good imported brands? I'm also interested in purchasing online.

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  • DaenrisDaenris Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I actually prefer Woodchuck Amber to Strongbow. However, if you're looking for something dry, Woodchuck also makes a dry variety (802, dark and dry) though I have a harder time actually finding it in many stores.

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  • EskimoDaveEskimoDave Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I don't want to be rude, but that shit isn't cider. Its nothing like real cider.

    I don't know any of the good English cider gets exported. I highly doubt it as they are mostly small operations.

    this site says they will ship outta england, I don't see it being cheap.
    http://www.realdrinksofengland.co.uk/acatalog/Cider.html

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  • bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    i know bulmers and magners get exported to australia, so you may have luck finding those

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    edited December 2009
  • TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    bsjezz wrote: »
    i know bulmers and magners get exported to australia, so you may have luck finding those

    Same drink, duder. In the Rep of Ireland, it's known as Bulmers and everywhere else it's known as Magners.

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  • RainbulimicRainbulimic Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Strongbow isn't good cider, its like... the stuff you drink when you can't afford nicer stuff.

    I quite like Stowford Press, that's good. A lot of people swear by Scrumpy Jack.

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  • Psychotic OnePsychotic One The Lord of No Pants Parts UnknownRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Blackthrone, I find it at Bevmo, is pretty good.

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  • bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Tav wrote: »
    bsjezz wrote: »
    i know bulmers and magners get exported to australia, so you may have luck finding those

    Same drink, duder. In the Rep of Ireland, it's known as Bulmers and everywhere else it's known as Magners.

    nah i mean this one

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  • LewieP's MummyLewieP's Mummy Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Brother's Pear cider is fab (their festival pear cider is very dry and delicious, but you can only get that at festivals :(, the stuff in supermarkets is a bit sweet), Thatchers Katy, Aspall Suffolk and Westons Organic are all good.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I've tried some fancier stuff, some french ciders, some scrumpy's, and so on.

    They're all much closer to apple juice. If "strong bow" is shit and the "good stuff" is this alcoholic apple juice, I'll stick with the shit.

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  • QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    i'm more of a woodchuck amber fan, i find blackthorne to be too wine-y and i don't like magners at all

    if you like cider, you might want to try an apple lambic like lindeman's or a perry like babycham

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  • FallingmanFallingman Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    In the UK, Bumers and Magners are the ones people really drink.

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  • The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    EggyToast wrote: »
    I've tried some fancier stuff, some french ciders, some scrumpy's, and so on.

    They're all much closer to apple juice. If "strong bow" is shit and the "good stuff" is this alcoholic apple juice, I'll stick with the shit.

    Strongbow is great, my favourite no worries. Quite cheap too

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  • Anarchy Rules!Anarchy Rules! Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Strongbow and Blackthorn, in the UK are the low end ciders, not quite the drink of tramps, but not far up. Bulmers, magners and brother's cider are all pretty good, but the 'real ales' of the cider world will be very hard to find - I can't find most West Country ciders when I go home to East Anglia during the holidays.

    I'm surprised by the lack of cider in the US, it's generally seen as a more rustic drink, and the US certainly has more open space and countryside than the UK!

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  • Niceguy MyeyeNiceguy Myeye Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    There used to be a brand that I could find around here (ATL) called K cider. It was my favorite of all of them, but I haven't been able to find it for a long time. That makes me sad.

    I don't know anything about 'real' ciders, but if you guys can suggest more dry less sweet, more alcoholic ones, I'd also appreciate that.

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  • John MatrixJohn Matrix Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Scrumpy is the way to go, even my wife loves it.

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  • iglidanteiglidante Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I'll cast my vote for Woodchuck 802 and Granny - the amber is just too sweet for me.

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  • darkmayodarkmayo Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I enjoy Scrumpy Jack, cant find it anymore (Calgary, Alberta Canada) so I drink Strongbow when I want something that isnt beer.

    Its crisp and tasty, yea in the UK it popular with the unsavory crowds, but that negative connotation doesnt exist here in North America so drink away.

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  • shadydentistshadydentist Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Hm, I've always heard of Strongbow as being shit, but I rather enjoy it. Possibly because its the only cider I can find that isn't really sweet.

    Gotta scrounge around some more and see if I can find something else to compare it to...

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  • MindLibMindLib Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Hm, I've always heard of Strongbow as being shit, but I rather enjoy it. Possibly because its the only cider I can find that isn't really sweet.

    Gotta scrounge around some more and see if I can find something else to compare it to...

    This is exactly my predicament. I'm gonna call some local bev centers today, see what surfaces.

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  • corcorigancorcorigan Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Not such a fan of Brother's cider. I think their strawberry one nearly caused my pancreas to give up and kill itself it was so sweet.

    There are some good Herefordshire ones, dammed if I know what they are actually called. Probably not available overseas anyway.

    Strongbow is not a good drink. If the only cider a pub has on tap is Strongbow then it's time to head upmarket...

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  • EskimoDaveEskimoDave Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    EggyToast wrote: »
    I've tried some fancier stuff, some french ciders, some scrumpy's, and so on.

    They're all much closer to apple juice. If "strong bow" is shit and the "good stuff" is this alcoholic apple juice, I'll stick with the shit.

    that's what cider is....

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  • darkmayodarkmayo Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    corcorigan wrote: »
    Not such a fan of Brother's cider. I think their strawberry one nearly caused my pancreas to give up and kill itself it was so sweet.

    There are some good Herefordshire ones, dammed if I know what they are actually called. Probably not available overseas anyway.

    Strongbow is not a good drink. If the only cider a pub has on tap is Strongbow then it's time to head upmarket...

    In Calgary, Strongbow is 90% of the time is the only Cider you will find on tap, the only other one I have seen here on tap is Rockcreek which IMO isnt very good. There are other ciders in bottles but they are more looked at like they are a cooler (Okanogan Springs for example has a variety of flavors of "cider" but since you can get them in 2L bottles it gets delegated as more of a teen drink, although they do come in glass bottles as well)

    Cider just isnt as big here as beer. Which thankfully we are seeing more and more imports on tap, I dont mind bottles but I prefer draft, of course alot of good stuff we dont have here on draft so i'll take what I can get at times.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    EskimoDave wrote: »
    EggyToast wrote: »
    I've tried some fancier stuff, some french ciders, some scrumpy's, and so on.

    They're all much closer to apple juice. If "strong bow" is shit and the "good stuff" is this alcoholic apple juice, I'll stick with the shit.

    that's what cider is....

    Next you're going to tell me that wine is just boozy grape juice.

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  • celandinecelandine Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Scrumpy for me!

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  • darkmayodarkmayo Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    EggyToast wrote: »
    EskimoDave wrote: »
    EggyToast wrote: »
    I've tried some fancier stuff, some french ciders, some scrumpy's, and so on.

    They're all much closer to apple juice. If "strong bow" is shit and the "good stuff" is this alcoholic apple juice, I'll stick with the shit.

    that's what cider is....

    Next you're going to tell me that wine is just boozy grape juice.

    No boozy grape juice is a Beaujolais Nouveau :P

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  • Cowboy BebopCowboy Bebop Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    In Scotland we nicknamed Strongbow 'Onion Cider' because it's so foul smelling/tasting. I'm a fan of Magners and Scrumpy Jack personally.

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  • corcorigancorcorigan Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Draught Bulmers is very good.

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  • psyck0psyck0 Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    You should try some BC ciders if you can get your hands on them. Rock Creek cider and Growers extra dry apple (they have some crappy fruity stuff) are both excellent, although far better on tap of course.

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  • darkmayodarkmayo Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    In Scotland we nicknamed Strongbow 'Onion Cider' because it's so foul smelling/tasting. I'm a fan of Magners and Scrumpy Jack personally.

    Onion cider? I cant say I have ever noticed an Onion smell or flavor with Strongbow, then again we likely arent drinking the same stuff, i'll have to check where ours is bottled compared to yours.

    I do enjoy Growers, Rock Creek just doesnt do it for me.

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  • Ginger MijangoGinger Mijango Don't you open that Trap Door!Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    In Scotland we nicknamed Strongbow 'Onion Cider' because it's so foul smelling/tasting. I'm a fan of Magners and Scrumpy Jack personally.

    From a nation where Tennents is brewed/consumed, thats really saying something.

    Kopparberg Pear is apparently a dry cider.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited December 2009
    Kopparberg Pear is apparently a dry cider.

    what

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  • Ginger MijangoGinger Mijango Don't you open that Trap Door!Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    the internet says so, I don't believe it, but it's the internet, who am i to argue?

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  • DeadfallDeadfall I don't think you realize just how rich he is. In fact, I should put on a monocle.Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Strongbow is just about the best of what I can get around here, so Strongbow is alright in my book. It's just about double the price of say, Hornsby's or Hardcore (which would be my second choice), but it's definately the driest, which is what I like.

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  • QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    how could i forget hornsby's, that is without a doubt my favorite

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  • EskimoDaveEskimoDave Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    psyck0 wrote: »
    You should try some BC ciders if you can get your hands on them. Rock Creek cider and Growers extra dry apple (they have some crappy fruity stuff) are both excellent, although far better on tap of course.

    also look for Merridale. I doubt you'll be able to get outside of the Island and Vancouver.

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  • OhtheVogonityOhtheVogonity Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Where I come from (rural midwest) cider is something you buy in unmarked gallon jugs from roadside stands. It's made from all the reject apples that aren't sold for eating or apple juice. It is goddamn delicious and I've been looking after alcoholic ciders that can match the taste (none have yet). However, if you leave this delicious stuff alone for a month or two it'll ferment into what we called applejack. This may or may not be of any use to you, but hey, cider thread.

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  • KivutarKivutar Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Where I come from (rural midwest) cider is something you buy in unmarked gallon jugs from roadside stands. It's made from all the reject apples that aren't sold for eating or apple juice. It is goddamn delicious and I've been looking after alcoholic ciders that can match the taste (none have yet). However, if you leave this delicious stuff alone for a month or two it'll ferment into what we called applejack. This may or may not be of any use to you, but hey, cider thread.

    Yea, my parents grew up near a cider mill, and I've tried some of the (alcoholic) ciders from the area that were pretty good, albeit a little sweeter than I like. They were also fairly strong, in the 8-12% range, and unfiltered which I dig. I've also had decent (and dry) house ciders at some brewpubs. I would really spend some more time looking into domestic options before writing them off entirely.

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  • Namel3ssNamel3ss Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    If you like Strongbow, give Fox Barrel a try. Its great.


    http://www.foxbarrel.com/

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