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Recently I bought myself a six pack of Strongbow, a dry cider imported from England. I've tried cider before but the American brands are always so sweet, not my bag, the Strongbow was sexy. My question is simple, and I suppose is aimed at the English posters here, what is your favorite dry cider? Any Americans here know some good imported brands? I'm also interested in purchasing online.
I actually prefer Woodchuck Amber to Strongbow. However, if you're looking for something dry, Woodchuck also makes a dry variety (802, dark and dry) though I have a harder time actually finding it in many stores.
Brother's Pear cider is fab (their festival pear cider is very dry and delicious, but you can only get that at festivals , the stuff in supermarkets is a bit sweet), Thatchers Katy, Aspall Suffolk and Westons Organic are all good.
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Strongbow and Blackthorn, in the UK are the low end ciders, not quite the drink of tramps, but not far up. Bulmers, magners and brother's cider are all pretty good, but the 'real ales' of the cider world will be very hard to find - I can't find most West Country ciders when I go home to East Anglia during the holidays.
I'm surprised by the lack of cider in the US, it's generally seen as a more rustic drink, and the US certainly has more open space and countryside than the UK!
There used to be a brand that I could find around here (ATL) called K cider. It was my favorite of all of them, but I haven't been able to find it for a long time. That makes me sad.
I don't know anything about 'real' ciders, but if you guys can suggest more dry less sweet, more alcoholic ones, I'd also appreciate that.
I enjoy Scrumpy Jack, cant find it anymore (Calgary, Alberta Canada) so I drink Strongbow when I want something that isnt beer.
Its crisp and tasty, yea in the UK it popular with the unsavory crowds, but that negative connotation doesnt exist here in North America so drink away.
Not such a fan of Brother's cider. I think their strawberry one nearly caused my pancreas to give up and kill itself it was so sweet.
There are some good Herefordshire ones, dammed if I know what they are actually called. Probably not available overseas anyway.
Strongbow is not a good drink. If the only cider a pub has on tap is Strongbow then it's time to head upmarket...
In Calgary, Strongbow is 90% of the time is the only Cider you will find on tap, the only other one I have seen here on tap is Rockcreek which IMO isnt very good. There are other ciders in bottles but they are more looked at like they are a cooler (Okanogan Springs for example has a variety of flavors of "cider" but since you can get them in 2L bottles it gets delegated as more of a teen drink, although they do come in glass bottles as well)
Cider just isnt as big here as beer. Which thankfully we are seeing more and more imports on tap, I dont mind bottles but I prefer draft, of course alot of good stuff we dont have here on draft so i'll take what I can get at times.
You should try some BC ciders if you can get your hands on them. Rock Creek cider and Growers extra dry apple (they have some crappy fruity stuff) are both excellent, although far better on tap of course.
In Scotland we nicknamed Strongbow 'Onion Cider' because it's so foul smelling/tasting. I'm a fan of Magners and Scrumpy Jack personally.
Onion cider? I cant say I have ever noticed an Onion smell or flavor with Strongbow, then again we likely arent drinking the same stuff, i'll have to check where ours is bottled compared to yours.
I do enjoy Growers, Rock Creek just doesnt do it for me.
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Strongbow is just about the best of what I can get around here, so Strongbow is alright in my book. It's just about double the price of say, Hornsby's or Hardcore (which would be my second choice), but it's definately the driest, which is what I like.
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how could i forget hornsby's, that is without a doubt my favorite
You should try some BC ciders if you can get your hands on them. Rock Creek cider and Growers extra dry apple (they have some crappy fruity stuff) are both excellent, although far better on tap of course.
also look for Merridale. I doubt you'll be able to get outside of the Island and Vancouver.
Where I come from (rural midwest) cider is something you buy in unmarked gallon jugs from roadside stands. It's made from all the reject apples that aren't sold for eating or apple juice. It is goddamn delicious and I've been looking after alcoholic ciders that can match the taste (none have yet). However, if you leave this delicious stuff alone for a month or two it'll ferment into what we called applejack. This may or may not be of any use to you, but hey, cider thread.
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Where I come from (rural midwest) cider is something you buy in unmarked gallon jugs from roadside stands. It's made from all the reject apples that aren't sold for eating or apple juice. It is goddamn delicious and I've been looking after alcoholic ciders that can match the taste (none have yet). However, if you leave this delicious stuff alone for a month or two it'll ferment into what we called applejack. This may or may not be of any use to you, but hey, cider thread.
Yea, my parents grew up near a cider mill, and I've tried some of the (alcoholic) ciders from the area that were pretty good, albeit a little sweeter than I like. They were also fairly strong, in the 8-12% range, and unfiltered which I dig. I've also had decent (and dry) house ciders at some brewpubs. I would really spend some more time looking into domestic options before writing them off entirely.
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I don't know any of the good English cider gets exported. I highly doubt it as they are mostly small operations.
this site says they will ship outta england, I don't see it being cheap.
http://www.realdrinksofengland.co.uk/acatalog/Cider.html
http://www.bevmo.com/Shop/ProductDetail.aspx?D=woodchuck&Ntx=mode%2bmatchall&Dx=mode%2bmatchall&Ntk=All&Nty=1&Ntt=woodchuck&N=0&ProductID=3048
http://www.bevmo.com/Shop/ProductDetail.aspx?D=woodchuck&Ntx=mode%2bmatchall&Dx=mode%2bmatchall&Ntk=All&Nty=1&Ntt=woodchuck&N=0&ProductID=5700
Same drink, duder. In the Rep of Ireland, it's known as Bulmers and everywhere else it's known as Magners.
I quite like Stowford Press, that's good. A lot of people swear by Scrumpy Jack.
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They're all much closer to apple juice. If "strong bow" is shit and the "good stuff" is this alcoholic apple juice, I'll stick with the shit.
if you like cider, you might want to try an apple lambic like lindeman's or a perry like babycham
Strongbow is great, my favourite no worries. Quite cheap too
I'm surprised by the lack of cider in the US, it's generally seen as a more rustic drink, and the US certainly has more open space and countryside than the UK!
I don't know anything about 'real' ciders, but if you guys can suggest more dry less sweet, more alcoholic ones, I'd also appreciate that.
Its crisp and tasty, yea in the UK it popular with the unsavory crowds, but that negative connotation doesnt exist here in North America so drink away.
Gotta scrounge around some more and see if I can find something else to compare it to...
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This is exactly my predicament. I'm gonna call some local bev centers today, see what surfaces.
There are some good Herefordshire ones, dammed if I know what they are actually called. Probably not available overseas anyway.
Strongbow is not a good drink. If the only cider a pub has on tap is Strongbow then it's time to head upmarket...
that's what cider is....
In Calgary, Strongbow is 90% of the time is the only Cider you will find on tap, the only other one I have seen here on tap is Rockcreek which IMO isnt very good. There are other ciders in bottles but they are more looked at like they are a cooler (Okanogan Springs for example has a variety of flavors of "cider" but since you can get them in 2L bottles it gets delegated as more of a teen drink, although they do come in glass bottles as well)
Cider just isnt as big here as beer. Which thankfully we are seeing more and more imports on tap, I dont mind bottles but I prefer draft, of course alot of good stuff we dont have here on draft so i'll take what I can get at times.
Next you're going to tell me that wine is just boozy grape juice.
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No boozy grape juice is a Beaujolais Nouveau :P
Onion cider? I cant say I have ever noticed an Onion smell or flavor with Strongbow, then again we likely arent drinking the same stuff, i'll have to check where ours is bottled compared to yours.
I do enjoy Growers, Rock Creek just doesnt do it for me.
From a nation where Tennents is brewed/consumed, thats really saying something.
Kopparberg Pear is apparently a dry cider.
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also look for Merridale. I doubt you'll be able to get outside of the Island and Vancouver.
Yea, my parents grew up near a cider mill, and I've tried some of the (alcoholic) ciders from the area that were pretty good, albeit a little sweeter than I like. They were also fairly strong, in the 8-12% range, and unfiltered which I dig. I've also had decent (and dry) house ciders at some brewpubs. I would really spend some more time looking into domestic options before writing them off entirely.
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