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Mr. Henry BemisMr. Henry Bemis God is loveRegistered User regular
edited December 2009 in Social Entropy++
what do you guys think of the trend within the psychological community of pharmacologically managing symptoms rather than treating conditions

i think it's rather bullshit, however i am not a psych patient or a psych so

some firsthand opinions on such as SSRIs and whatnot would be cool

let's have some psychchat

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  • BedlamBedlam Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    LISTEN!

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  • Skull ManSkull Man RIP KUSU Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    when I was nineteen my psychiatrist had me on many, many different kinds of drugs

    in the end I stopped going to him and just dealt with the problems in my own life which were causing me to be kind of crazy

    now my life rules and I am sane

    I highly recommend this to all crazy people

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  • nevilleneville The Worst Gay (Seriously. The Worst!)Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    bemis you're the last person i'd think would be down on drugs
    8-)

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  • WimbleWimble Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I would be very worried about feeling like I need to be medicated to be happy, but at the same time I think people are way too judgemental to people who are on meds sometimes.

    People like Mike Krahulik have convinced me that using meds to get through your days does not have to be a bad thing, but yeah of course there are people who abuse them as well

    so I dunno

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Around mid summer of this year I got put on SSRIs. They made me feel a lot better.

    About a month and a half ago I stopped using them with no ill effects.

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  • NocturneNocturne Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I absolutely hated the SSRIs/SNRIs that I was put on in the past. They made me feel shitty and didn't help.

    I know for some people they do help, but I can certainly agree that a lot of doctors stop too short when they just presribe one of these drugs and don't talk to their patient about exercise, counselling, and the like.

    One of the most important things I've learned in life is that doctors are smart when it comes to some things, like generally making sure people don't die, but they can be completely ignorant on a lot. Educate yourself.

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  • Baroque And RollBaroque And Roll Every spark of friendship and love Will die without a homeRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    While I am of the opinion that the use of prescription psych medication is a good thing, I believe the over prescription is not.

    Drugs can both help and exacerbate the problem. My dad was on a cocktail of psych meds for the longest time and incredibly fucked up. Of course it was because my parents were divorcing at the time, but the drugs in that situation hurt more than helped.

    Basically, prescription psych medications = good.

    Over-prescription = bad.

    Therapists? Do your fucking jobs.

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  • NogsNogs Crap, crap, mega crap. Crap, crap, mega crap.Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    PSY

    KICK

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  • NogsNogs Crap, crap, mega crap. Crap, crap, mega crap.Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    PSY

    DUCK

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  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator mod
    edited December 2009
    look i'm a psychiatrist and my advice is to man up and stop crying, sissy

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  • FletcherFletcher Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    please make a new thread like this every day

    so that it reminds me to take my SSRI

    it works wonders for me, but then i forget to take it several days in a row

    and life becomes a drag

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  • WimbleWimble Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    could I have a prescription for that, knob??

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Nocturne wrote: »
    I absolutely hated the SSRIs/SNRIs that I was put on in the past. They made me feel shitty and didn't help.

    I know for some people they do help, but I can certainly agree that a lot of doctors stop too short when they just presribe one of these drugs and don't talk to their patient about exercise, counselling, and the like.

    One of the most important things I've learned in life is that doctors are smart when it comes to some things, like generally making sure people don't die, but they can be completely ignorant on a lot. Educate yourself.

    Yeah I should probably mention that I only got on Prozac after about a month of counseling, and I kept going to counseling after getting put on them. In the long run I think that did me a lot better than the drugs.

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  • ascotascot Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    the drug companies fund the research and collation of the DSM

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  • Lost SalientLost Salient blink twice if you'd like me to mercy kill youRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I'm not a psychiatrist and my advice is to rub some dirt in it and walk it off.

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  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator mod
    edited December 2009
    While I am of the opinion that the use of prescription psych medication is a good thing, I believe the over prescription is not.

    Drugs can both help and exacerbate the problem. My dad was on a cocktail of psych meds for the longest time and incredibly fucked up. Of course it was because my parents were divorcing at the time, but the drugs in that situation hurt more than helped.

    Basically, prescription psych medications = good.

    Over-prescription = bad.

    Therapists? Do your fucking jobs.

    what a stunning insight

    let me share one with you

    i think heart surgery is awesome, but i think that if the doctor fucks up during heart surgery then that is not awesome

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  • FletcherFletcher Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
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    COME WITH ME IF YOU WANT TO LIVE

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  • Baroque And RollBaroque And Roll Every spark of friendship and love Will die without a homeRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    While I am of the opinion that the use of prescription psych medication is a good thing, I believe the over prescription is not.

    Drugs can both help and exacerbate the problem. My dad was on a cocktail of psych meds for the longest time and incredibly fucked up. Of course it was because my parents were divorcing at the time, but the drugs in that situation hurt more than helped.

    Basically, prescription psych medications = good.

    Over-prescription = bad.

    Therapists? Do your fucking jobs.

    To add:

    My dad was diagnosed with bi-polar disorder about eight or nine years ago now.

    These days, he's on the right meds and he's great.

    If he goes off them, he gets a little wonky and out of touch with the world.

    But the reason he's doing well is because he's both managing his meds correctly and he's got his fucking personal life sorted out.

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  • gazamcgazamc Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Must be pretty tough to accurately diagnose psychiatric problems, so it must be tough to figure out who exactly needs medication. Obviously it works in some cases, but also has a negative effect in many others. Its a pretty tough call.

    In summary I don't have a fucking clue.

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  • Mr. Henry BemisMr. Henry Bemis God is love Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    neville wrote: »
    bemis you're the last person i'd think would be down on drugs
    8-)
    psychoactive chemicals are a wonderful part of nature

    i am actually somewhat considering psychopharmacology as a major

    the problem with anti-depressants is that they don't address the root of the problem at all they just sort of smush them, and not always effectively

    psychological therapy of some sort is pretty much the best method known for addressing the roots of psychological conditions

    there's plenty of chemicals that can be used to fantastic effect as an adjunct to therapy, though

    i feel like there should be a much stronger focus on improving therapy over improving ways to deal with a lack of it

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  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator mod
    edited December 2009
    i think it's pretty cool when construction workers build a building but i think it fucking sucks if they mess up and knock one down

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  • Skull ManSkull Man RIP KUSU Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    oh man knob has an opinion

    fathers lock up your daughters

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  • WimbleWimble Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I don't know about you guys, but I think racism is bad

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  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I don't have a psychiatrist

    but I did go to a psychologist for a while

    she helped me out a whole bunch just by talking to me every couple of weeks and giving me ideas on how to improve my lot

    #pipe on
  • zoom. zip. smash.zoom. zip. smash. Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    While I am of the opinion that the use of prescription psych medication is a good thing, I believe the over prescription is not.

    Drugs can both help and exacerbate the problem. My dad was on a cocktail of psych meds for the longest time and incredibly fucked up. Of course it was because my parents were divorcing at the time, but the drugs in that situation hurt more than helped.

    Basically, prescription psych medications = good.

    Over-prescription = bad.

    Therapists? Do your fucking jobs.

    I had the opposite experience with my dad. He was on a cocktail of psych meds that made him able to enjoy his life with family instead of being miserable and sleeping all the time. It took years of trial and error before they found the right combination, though. :/

    So, yeah, basically you have to have a good doctor looking out for you.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    medication can be essential to the well being of a depressed or otherwise mentally affected individual

    other things are essential too, like exercise, eating right, making an effort to get out and interact with other people, and actual therapy, not I'm-gonna-talk-for-an-hour-and-then-I-want-a-scrip therapy

    but to say medication is completely unnecessary in any case of clinical depression or other mental stress is foolhardy indeed

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  • Baroque And RollBaroque And Roll Every spark of friendship and love Will die without a homeRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    While I am of the opinion that the use of prescription psych medication is a good thing, I believe the over prescription is not.

    Drugs can both help and exacerbate the problem. My dad was on a cocktail of psych meds for the longest time and incredibly fucked up. Of course it was because my parents were divorcing at the time, but the drugs in that situation hurt more than helped.

    Basically, prescription psych medications = good.

    Over-prescription = bad.

    Therapists? Do your fucking jobs.

    I had the opposite experience with my dad. He was on a cocktail of psych meds that made him able to enjoy his life with family instead of being miserable and sleeping all the time. It took years of trial and error before they found the right combination, though. :/

    So, yeah, basically you have to have a good doctor looking out for you.

    This is what I meant, Knob. No need to get hostile.

    Thank you, Xoe.

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  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator mod
    edited December 2009
    Wimble wrote: »
    I don't know about you guys, but I think racism is bad

    but you know what wimble

    racial tolerance is awesome


    my god we are just full of radical opinions

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  • FletcherFletcher Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    in conclusion, libya is a land of contrast

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  • UmaroUmaro Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I honestly think I would benefit from antidepressants and I have for awhile now, but I'm too embarassed/poor to actually talk to a professional about it. I've seen them do good things for people, but if they forget to take them or just don't they become absolute terrors.

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  • AMP'dAMP'd Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    neville wrote: »
    bemis you're the last person i'd think would be down on drugs
    8-)

    He's really the first person I'd think would be down on the way therapy is done today

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I mean yeah knob it's so fucking basic it's not really an argument

    over-medication is bad but medication is not bad in and of itself

    that's a fact, jack

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I think people are sometimes less comfortable with the idea of seeing a therapist/counselor/psychologist than they are with taking a pill that has been advertised to magically take their bad feelings away.

    I also think that meds in combination with therapy, or even just therapy solo is much more helpful than just here's a prescription after talking to you for fifteen minutes, good luck.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    My dad takes so many drugs it is not even funny.

    Only some of them are psychoactive though.

    He takes a medical form of speed for his narcolepsy, sleeping pills to counteract the speed when it's time for bed, and something to mellow him out so he's not all jittery and irritable while on the speed.

    Sometimes he loses that last one, or runs out of pills before he bothers to get his prescription refilled. Days on which this happens are not happy days.

    The last time it happened was on Father's Day when he called me on the phone to fume at me over some inconsequential nonsense while I was standing in line buying him a present.

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  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator mod
    edited December 2009
    i'm an asshole today

    maybe i should get some medicine for that

    Knob on
  • TossrockTossrock too weird to live too rare to dieRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Knob wrote: »
    i think it's pretty cool when construction workers build a building but i think it fucking sucks if they mess up and knock one down

    dude i hate that

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  • Skull ManSkull Man RIP KUSU Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    man if I could just get some vicodin that would be so sweet

    oh shit, I just got my health insurance back! I should say my back is acting up from my wreck so I can get some vicodin

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  • Mr. Henry BemisMr. Henry Bemis God is love Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    also! i don't think that normal, non-psych medical doctors should be prescribing psychological medication??

    what's odd is that a doctor can prescribe psych meds all day but in most states a PhD level psychologist can't

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  • gazamcgazamc Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I took diazapam for back ache once. that made me feel awesome.

    If you have a sore back and a comfortable couch I would prescribe that.

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  • NogsNogs Crap, crap, mega crap. Crap, crap, mega crap.Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    i got my medicine right here in my hand

    i have a beer in my hand

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