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Mass Effect - Use spoiler tags for ME2 information.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I bought this on Steam. The game keeps on crashing every once in a while. I also had to turn off hardware audio due to it not allowing me to turn the sound effects down without turning them off.

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  • LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    am I the only one who maxed both charm and intimidate before putting points into anything else? Maybe cause I was an infiltrator and all i really needed to put points in was pistols and the pistol berserking cooldown whatever it was called but none of the other things ever truly felt necessary and the extra charm/intimidate options added some cool dialogue to the story

    In any game with a charm/intimidate option that influences conversations, I always dump as many points as possible into that option.

    It helps that my current Vanguard Shep got the Assault Rifle bonus skill, so I didn't have to waste points on Pistols or Shotguns.

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  • Coffee BeanCoffee Bean Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    BlackDove wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    I could never not help Lorik Qui'in

    I love that turian

    Such a suave motherfucker, ain't he?

    Lorik is hella awesome. Easily one of my favorite NPCs and all he does is lounge there sipping liquor. It irritated me that you can't take him up on his offer.
    Egos wrote: »
    We should be debating whether Samara is doable or not, y'all

    I think that line about unzipping a space blouse from the esrb rating confirms her as doable.

    And something about gyrating alien hips.

    This was also discussed, wasn't it? From BBFC.co.uk or something:
    "Sex scenes can be triggered by a sequence of conversation choices. Depending on what characters the player has assumed, sex can take place between humans and humanoid aliens of both sexes."
    Shepard/Grunt confirmed

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  • HylianbunnyHylianbunny Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Is there a list of assignments in Mass Effect that you need to return to the Citadel for? I'm not at the point of no return yet, but Soldier Ally just dinged, which makes me think that I have enough assignments for Asari Ally but not Missions, so I was going to go ahead and start the next planet.

    If it doesn't go off after that, though, I'll plow through the rest of the assignments - most of the ones I still need are UNC ones anyway.

    I know Asari Diplomacy, Missing Marines, and Missing Person need to return to the Citadel, but are there others?

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Those are all of them. Everything else is either contained to the Citadel entirely or only starts there.

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    There's a checklist in the OP

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  • HylianbunnyHylianbunny Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Elendil wrote: »
    Those are all of them. Everything else is either contained to the Citadel entirely or only starts there.

    Excellent. Thanks.

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  • envoy1envoy1 the old continentRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Egos wrote: »
    Rainfall wrote: »
    Robman wrote: »
    Nerdgasmic wrote: »
    That part creeped me out. I had Wrex using Chemical Rounds when the blond security officer threatened me and she immediately dissolved as soon as the cutscene ended.

    I really do hope things are more graphic in ME2, and that there are far more options to talk people down.

    In a game with a moral system like ME2, I should feel disturbed if I'm unable to keep my cool and de-escalate a situation. Fuck up a tense conversation? BAM! Blood on the wall, and the cute blonde is choking on blood and sobbing in panic as she dies in front of you.

    That's just a bit creepy. Seriously.

    But I do agree. A little bit of blood and pain on the part of the people you murder would be a nice touch, and a good way to show how badass/cold Renegade Shep is.

    Robman is a fan of the Cronenberg depiction of violence.

    I named my renegade AW in DA:O Robman... He killed everything that moved.

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  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    envoy1 wrote: »
    Egos wrote: »
    Rainfall wrote: »
    Robman wrote: »
    Nerdgasmic wrote: »
    That part creeped me out. I had Wrex using Chemical Rounds when the blond security officer threatened me and she immediately dissolved as soon as the cutscene ended.

    I really do hope things are more graphic in ME2, and that there are far more options to talk people down.

    In a game with a moral system like ME2, I should feel disturbed if I'm unable to keep my cool and de-escalate a situation. Fuck up a tense conversation? BAM! Blood on the wall, and the cute blonde is choking on blood and sobbing in panic as she dies in front of you.

    That's just a bit creepy. Seriously.

    But I do agree. A little bit of blood and pain on the part of the people you murder would be a nice touch, and a good way to show how badass/cold Renegade Shep is.

    Robman is a fan of the Cronenberg depiction of violence.

    I named my renegade AW in DA:O Robman... He killed everything that moved.

    You sir are a gentlemanne.

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  • Pete0rPete0r Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I was going to buy the fancy Collectors edition [UK] for £55, having justified the price for the art book and whatever the Cerberus network thing was... But now amazon are selling the regular edition for £29.99.

    I like Bioware a lot and want to give them money, but this is nearly half the price. :(

    I only hope I won't miss out on too much stuff. I can live without the armor and guns as I'd make do with in-game ones. I'm yet to even equip the dragon armor in Dragon Age, so that was not a worthwhile extra for me.

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  • evilthecatevilthecat Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    concerning shep's fate:
    http://www.bravenewgamer.com/2009/12/mass-effect-2-preview-first-hour-of-gameplay/
    it's official. you're a clone. this is infuriating. at least for me.

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    How many people are pre-ordering from gamestop for the black hole gun?

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    evilthecat wrote: »
    concerning shep's fate:
    http://www.bravenewgamer.com/2009/12/mass-effect-2-preview-first-hour-of-gameplay/
    it's official. you're a clone. this is infuriating. at least for me.

    That is a little vexing, assuming they're not misinterpreting it. Reviewers use wrong terms all the time. Personally I refuse to watch the video in order to keep the experience feeling fresh, even if I know the basics of the first hour of gameplay.

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  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Why does that infuriate you?

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  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    -Tal wrote: »
    Why does that infuriate you?

    Yeah, I don't see the big deal. Plus it's not entirely clear what happens after those first five minutes anyway. Both hands-on previews I've read have all glossed over the details, and the one evilthecat linked didn't outright say the word he's so upset about.
    I'd wager enough of Shepard's brain survived for him to retain his identity. He could have been largely intact, but with his flesh burnt and some organ damage present. Cerberus could have just healed or replaced the damaged parts and revived him instead of just taking some skin cell and forming a whole new body. Who knows? The article doesn't state the details. And either way, it's still Shepard, so I really don't care too much. If there were TWO Shepards running around, then I may be a little miffed. That is, however, not the case.

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  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    It's not really
    "cloning" anyway, at least not in the sense that we understand it. It's heavy reconstructive surgery, which is the term Bioware uses. You may get a bit of Theseus' Paradox going on, though.

    I'm interested in how they rebuilt the brain and memories. You'd think they could alter his brain and make him super-loyal to Cerberus or something.

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  • SnowblindvictimSnowblindvictim Flying casual Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    evilthecat wrote: »
    concerning shep's fate:
    http://www.bravenewgamer.com/2009/12/mass-effect-2-preview-first-hour-of-gameplay/
    it's official. you're a clone. this is infuriating. at least for me.

    That is a little vexing, assuming they're not misinterpreting it. Reviewers use wrong terms all the time. Personally I refuse to watch the video in order to keep the experience feeling fresh, even if I know the basics of the first hour of gameplay.
    I read it and it never says explicitly that he's a clone. Just that he's been "extensively rebuilt." However either fate doesn't really upset me. As far as I can tell it's still Shepard's memories/experiences but in a different body

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  • Zetetic ElenchZetetic Elench Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    -Tal wrote: »
    It's not really
    "cloning" anyway, at least not in the sense that we understand it. It's heavy reconstructive surgery, which is the term Bioware uses. You may get a bit of Theseus' Paradox going on, though.

    I'm interested in how they rebuilt the brain and memories. You'd think they could alter his brain and make him super-loyal to Cerberus or something.

    Right.
    The cloning issue only sucks if they're cloning him and creating a new Shepard without his memories and skills and whatnot. That doesn't seem the case at all, he's got all his memories and all so his brain must have survived. As you say, it's just heavy reconstructive surgery. Like cloning a new heart for someone, just on a much bigger scale.

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  • BlackDoveBlackDove Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    The preview sounds as if it's some godsend from the unknown, when it's the exact same fucking preview everyone else has already written about. Same experience was given.

    Yeah, it's infuriating, but it's not like the game is gunning for the best and most realistic story ever.
    It was going downhill the moment you were "back from the dead". Clone or whatever else, (according to the actual logic of the story, NOT a clone), dead people coming back to life is fucking ridiculous, at least still in this day and age.

    But it's a goddamn sci-fi setting and story, so who cares really.

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  • No Great NameNo Great Name FRAUD DETECTED Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Same preview, "For this preview, our Shepard was a Sentinel, meaning a mixture between biotic and soldier."

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  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    BlackDove
    What they're doing to Shepard is no less believable than what they did with Frankenstein's monster a century ago. I think in the advanced future, with a company pouring billions of credits into the project and already well-versed in genetic engineering, reconstructing a human body can pass.

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  • Zetetic ElenchZetetic Elench Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    The only unbelievable part for me
    Is the "nothing but pieces of burnt flesh, scattered over a large area" part. If they don't give us a decent explanation for how the hell his brain wasn't creamed, I'll be annoyed. If they say his spacesuit deployed an emergency mass effect field or something that slowed his body's descent, I'll be perfectly happy.

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  • BlackDoveBlackDove Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    -Tal wrote: »
    BlackDove
    What they're doing to Shepard is no less believable than what they did with Frankenstein's monster a century ago. I think in the advanced future, with a company pouring billions of credits into the project and already well-versed in genetic engineering, reconstructing a human body can pass.

    Yeah, because Frankenstein is so realistic by today's standards.

    ???

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  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    You guys are arguing about realism in a science fiction video game?

    And like I said before, we still don't know the details. It's a bit silly getting up in arms about something we don't really know about. Either way, it still doesn't bother me.
    SHEPARD IS STILL SHEPARD.

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  • l337CrappyJackl337CrappyJack Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    It's just a pretty clever sci-fi way of letting you tweak your character from ME1. I'm fine with it. Lets me fiddle with Jack Shepard's heavily sunken cheeks that I never liked but wasn't a big enough deal for me to start the character from scratch.

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  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    BlackDove wrote: »
    -Tal wrote: »
    BlackDove
    What they're doing to Shepard is no less believable than what they did with Frankenstein's monster a century ago. I think in the advanced future, with a company pouring billions of credits into the project and already well-versed in genetic engineering, reconstructing a human body can pass.

    Yeah, because Frankenstein is so realistic by today's standards.

    ???

    I didn't say it was realistic, I said if you could swallow that in the context of its setting, I don't see why you can't swallow this in the context of Mass Effect's setting.

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  • AlegisAlegis Impeckable Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    The Human Alliance ordered several Shepard clones on Kamino

    Mass Effect 3: Attack of the Shepards

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  • Zetetic ElenchZetetic Elench Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Dashui wrote: »
    You guys are arguing about realism in a science fiction video game?

    We're arguing about believability in a science fiction videogame. You're using the phrase "science fiction" like "ho ho, it is meant to have crazy things in it you silly boys" and that's true, but logical consistency is also pretty heavily important in sci-fi, if you don't want your suspension of disbelief completely dismantled.

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  • SzechuanSzechuan Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Just to clear this up, I accidentally read the spoilerific IGN preview posted earlier. I clicked a non-labeled link and well, there it all was.

    So, according to them, the situation re: Shepard (massive first-hour spoiler)
    is that he is ejected into space through a breach in the hull. His suit is on but ripped, and his oxygen leaks out. Dead. Then you wake up at Cerberus or whatever. They were pretty clear that Cerberus recovered his body and rebuilt it with cybernetics, etc.. No mention of cloning.
    I'm thinking that other review was a shitty attempt to garner interest/page hits.

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  • Zetetic ElenchZetetic Elench Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Again, I...
    ... think it likely that they got confused by some character talking about cloning Shepard's organs and so on or something.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    If there's one thing I don't trust previews by anyone other than the company that made the game itself to do, it's communicate plot information accurately.

    It's a rule that has served me well.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Meh, I'll just wait until I play the game before I say anything.

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  • SzechuanSzechuan Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Again, I...
    ... think it likely that they got confused by some character talking about cloning Shepard's organs and so on or something.

    Oh, I totally agree. Just figured I'd throw some more evidence on the pile.

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  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Arguments about realism in a game where needle-sized shards fired at relativistic velocities can cause instantly fatal chest trauma are p. funny

    I mean I wouldn't want to take a needle through the chest but I'd probably survive it

    Unless some SCIENCE! and "a Wizard did it" is involved.

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  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    good thing guns don't kill in one hit unless you make those needles explosive

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  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    -Tal wrote: »
    good thing guns don't kill in one hit unless you make those needles explosive

    Sup, Infiltrator Commando.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Either way, I wonder if we're going to get any more new info in the following weeks. Oh yeah, they still haven't showed the Miranda intro yet.

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  • BlackDoveBlackDove Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    It's because of the holidays.

    Nobody works.

    They'll resume their hype machine the moment the marketing people and the greenlighting people get back to work.

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  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    BlackDove wrote: »
    It's because of the holidays.

    Nobody works.

    They'll resume their hype machine the moment the marketing people and the greenlighting people get back to work.

    Bioware make the sad assumption we have people we want to discuss things non-video games with

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    proper Vanguard vid plz

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