Is there a limit to when your main stat starts to taper off in effectiveness when it comes to boosting weapon damage? Like, after a while the notice is negligible? Generally I get the idea that around 30 you're at a pretty good spot.
I have heard something to this effect, but looked around just now and was unable to confirm for sure. But yeah, around 30 or so.
I asked this on SA too and they said that 40 is the "limit" for most stats. Around 40 the benefits of buffing it higher are a lot less noticeable. Vitality is the exception with it dropping off at around 30 and Endurance maxing out Stamina at 40.
Sounds good. I had gotten my faith to 30 and had started pumping Vitality and Endurance but I guess I will put some more points into faith
Got the game today (turns out they got it in the store TODAY), and rolled my first character, a Royal. I got 30 minutes in, died, and had to hand the console over to my sister. I then spent the next hour and a half telling her what to do.
I love this game.
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I'd say do 1-2 first. Just time your runs and take the tunnels if possible (watch out for dogs).
The miners in 2-1 are weak to piercing weapons.
Also, I managed to beat the game ^_^ Now to do it a couple more times.
Sounds good, ive been using my falchion+3 primarily, but i really should wrap my head around "every character is just stats" and that thyeres nothing holding me back from switching it up.
Bows do seem incredibly overpowered once you get an amazing bow, I'm using a white bow +5 until I can get a vicious compound bow going strong and it still just demolishes most enemies.
You upgraded that all the way to +5? That's a lot of Colorless Demon Soul's. It doesn't even do any scaling past the first upgrade, I think.
I had the white bow at +3 before I realised this and then just kept going for the trophy because at this point I am using the meat cleaver, the bow (until I get that vicious bow) and a quality winged spear. Nothing really unique in the lot at this time.
Lucky bastard. I gotta worry about upgrading Adjudicator's Shield, Large Sword of Moonlight, and possibly Istarelle to upgrade. The Faith build seems pretty Colorless Soul intensive.
I wish you could upgrade the meat cleaver but it has some insane stat scaling so I'm not too miffed about it. I have about 26 strength, 28 dex and 26 faith so that thing does some crazy damage.
I feel like such a flavour of the month now that you guys have all said that you're doing Faith builds
At least I know that I'll definitely be playing through this again - I'd love to see how different the game is for a full caster type character.
Heh, yeah, it does seem to be the trend at the moment. I think once I am satisfied with my faith character I'm going to roll up a pure mage. A buddy of mine played one while I was leveling my first guy (Temple Knight focused on Strength) and he was insanely useful to have around.
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Just started a new Royal last night, went straight to 4-1 after downing phalanx and very carefully worked my way through to get the crescent falchion before returning to do 1-2.
I have a problem now though, every other character has ended up with PWWT by the time I kill the boss in 1-2, opening the left path just inside 1-1. This time it's still closed, and I don't think I've done anything to shift it towards black (suiciding in the nexus). I guess I must have logged in the nexus?
Any suggestions for shifting world 1 towards white easily? I really want the binded armor.
Is there anyone not playing a faith based build other than vagrant in this thread?
Second character will be either dagger/claw/something bleed + plague build. Or a full on battle mage, 2h crescent weapon, pole from 3-1 PBWT for mana regen, etc.
Any suggestions for shifting world 1 towards white easily? I really want the binded armor.
Bait and kill a Black Phantom.
Have you killed the bridge dragon yet? I think that might actually push the WT towards white. It's been awhile since I paid attention to that so I may just be imagining things.
Any suggestions for shifting world 1 towards white easily? I really want the binded armor.
Bait and kill a Black Phantom.
Have you killed the bridge dragon yet? I think that might actually push the WT towards white. It's been awhile since I paid attention to that so I may just be imagining things.
Killing the dragon does indeed push it towards white. That's why it's possible to get PWT without killing a third boss.
Ah, that explains how it worked for me then, as I also defeated the Dragon. I wondered if that was the case, but the wiki didn't mention anything about the Dragon's shifting WT.
I’ll tell you what happens in Demon’s Souls when you die. You come back as a ghost with your health capped at half. And when you keep on dying, the alignment of the world turns black and the enemies get harder. That’s right, when you fail in this game, it gets harder. Why? Because fuck you is why.
Jeez, after having to summon phantom after phantom to help my pathetic ass beat that invading black phantom, it sure is nice not to have to worry about that guy potentially snea-THE PHANTOM F_YOU HAS INVADED
So I got invaded for the first time tonight. I keep forgetting that after killing a boss that I get my body back and can be invaded if I don't suicide. Unfortunately, playing the PvP in this simply isn't even remotely viable as an Aussie. He did a first assault on me and I was pumping his ass pretty hard, but then he ran away to heal up, came back and just kept rolling around me, I got absolutely smashed. On my screen, none of his hits even came close to hitting me. I must be rocking a 1k+ ping to the American servers or something. Boo.
On a plus side, I downed 2-2, 2-3 and 5-2. I got my LSoM! Jesus fuck that thing is enormous, almost impractically so. Pretty damn slow too. I'm not sure how much I like the speed of it after using the Blessed Mace +1 for the last ~20 soul levels. I'm a little disappointed by it, but it is pretty smash-fucky.
Ugh, I missed out on like half of the Brushwood set because I'm dumb. I even read about another poster making the same mistake, yet I fucked up anyway.
I managed to pick up the helmet, shield and BP then became overloaded. I realized at that point that if I left the level the items would disappear. I panicked and tried reloading, but that just dropped me in the exact same spot and the items vanished
I guess I'm waiting till later when that other guy drops it. I suppose it's not a big deal because I don't have enough END to wear that set yet anyway.
I almost got my Winged Spear to +7. Scraping spear here I come! I'm gonna be such an asshole.
Ok, starting to get annoyed. I wrapped up world 2 last night while never having died in it. So I should have perfect white world tendency. However, for the life of me I cannot get Scirvir to spawn.
Ok, starting to get annoyed. I wrapped up world 2 last night while never having died in it. So I should have perfect white world tendency. However, for the life of me I cannot get Scirvir to spawn.
Either gank some black phantoms, or help another player defeat a boss as a blue phantom to bring up your tendency.
Ok, starting to get annoyed. I wrapped up world 2 last night while never having died in it. So I should have perfect white world tendency. However, for the life of me I cannot get Scirvir to spawn.
Either gank some black phantoms, or help another player defeat a boss as a blue phantom to bring up your tendency.
Except I have Pure White already. I was able to get the Dragon Bone Smasher easily, which also requires pure white.
Ok, starting to get annoyed. I wrapped up world 2 last night while never having died in it. So I should have perfect white world tendency. However, for the life of me I cannot get Scirvir to spawn.
Either gank some black phantoms, or help another player defeat a boss as a blue phantom to bring up your tendency.
Except I have Pure White already. I was able to get the Dragon Bone Smasher easily, which also requires pure white.
Ok, starting to get annoyed. I wrapped up world 2 last night while never having died in it. So I should have perfect white world tendency. However, for the life of me I cannot get Scirvir to spawn.
Either gank some black phantoms, or help another player defeat a boss as a blue phantom to bring up your tendency.
Except I have Pure White already. I was able to get the Dragon Bone Smasher easily, which also requires pure white.
Are you sure you're in the right spot?
I had a little trouble finding him at first.
Pretty sure, yeah. You take the right tunnel at the beginning of the level, drop down a couple of platforms, and he should be sitting right next to some crystal geckos in a dead end tunnel.
Soo apparently you can't transfer characters between different systems, at least not that I know of. Which I kind of expected but unfortunately means that my character I started over break is stuck on my brothers PS3 and I have to start a new one. I think I am going to go with royalty, any suggestions for starting out? I was a thief before and just kind of winged it.
Soo apparently you can't transfer characters between different systems, at least not that I know of. Which I kind of expected but unfortunately means that my character I started over break is stuck on my brothers PS3 and I have to start a new one. I think I am going to go with royalty, any suggestions for starting out? I was a thief before and just kind of winged it.
Do you plan on using magic or faith at all? If so, then yes, Royalty is probably the best choice. If you're going to be pure melee, one of the heavier armored class choices may be a better choice.
Soo apparently you can't transfer characters between different systems, at least not that I know of. Which I kind of expected but unfortunately means that my character I started over break is stuck on my brothers PS3 and I have to start a new one. I think I am going to go with royalty, any suggestions for starting out? I was a thief before and just kind of winged it.
Do you plan on using magic or faith at all? If so, then yes, Royalty is probably the best choice. If you're going to be pure melee, one of the heavier armored class choices may be a better choice.
I think I am going use some magic. I definitely don't want pure melee, I was thinking some type of hybrid.
Soo apparently you can't transfer characters between different systems, at least not that I know of. Which I kind of expected but unfortunately means that my character I started over break is stuck on my brothers PS3 and I have to start a new one. I think I am going to go with royalty, any suggestions for starting out? I was a thief before and just kind of winged it.
Do you plan on using magic or faith at all? If so, then yes, Royalty is probably the best choice. If you're going to be pure melee, one of the heavier armored class choices may be a better choice.
I think I am going use some magic. I definitely don't want pure melee, I was thinking some type of hybrid.
My first character was a hybrid Melee/Magic/Faith. I started as a Temple Knight and did pretty well.
This game makes me sad how I can just blow through levels with a Royalty and high magic. Thinking of restarting with a melee focused class, whats a good one for that, I want moveability, but some armor wouldn't be too bad either.
Yeah, Melee definitely ups the difficulty. Totally worth it though when you get up in Flamelurkers shit and pwn him hardcore without any magical backup
Yeah, Melee definitely ups the difficulty. Totally worth it though when you get up in Flamelurkers shit and pwn him hardcore without any magical backup
See, my problem is the games almost... Easy. I use soul arrow (or whatever its called) and the majority of the enemies die in 2 or 3 hits, the harder ones, after learning their attacks, are easy to beat. I'm currently trucking through... I guess its 2-2, (place with the flamelurker, I don't know how the worlds go), and so far, the only problems I've had in that level was that goddamn jumping/platforming puzzle you have to do to get down to him. I died like... 8 times on that because I was stupid. And, thats so far the only level I've died that much on, I've done 1-1, 1-2, 2-1, and died a total of like... 15-20 times, mostly due to stupid mistakes (I.E. falling damage, and switching to the wrong item, (I.E. getting out my catalyst when I wanted to get out my shield T.T)).
That being said, Armor spider is damn easy with magic :P, same with Flamelurker (although I still haven't beaten him YET. I've gotten him down pretty low, low enough to know that I can do it, but I just don't want to at the moment.
Also, the miners are easy. I love how I can backstab six in a row without the others turning around.
Yeah, when I was rolling on my first character I almost always had my friend with me who rolled a pure mage. It turned many of the levels/bosses into easy mode. So I've been having to relearn alot of how to play this time around.
Armor Spider is easy for any class. Just stand against the wall and break out a bow. Same with Leechmonger.
Yeah, Melee definitely ups the difficulty. Totally worth it though when you get up in Flamelurkers shit and pwn him hardcore without any magical backup
See, my problem is the games almost... Easy. I use soul arrow (or whatever its called) and the majority of the enemies die in 2 or 3 hits, the harder ones, after learning their attacks, are easy to beat. I'm currently trucking through... I guess its 2-2, (place with the flamelurker, I don't know how the worlds go), and so far, the only problems I've had in that level was that goddamn jumping/platforming puzzle you have to do to get down to him. I died like... 8 times on that because I was stupid. And, thats so far the only level I've died that much on, I've done 1-1, 1-2, 2-1, and died a total of like... 15-20 times, mostly due to stupid mistakes (I.E. falling damage, and switching to the wrong item, (I.E. getting out my catalyst when I wanted to get out my shield T.T)).
That being said, Armor spider is damn easy with magic :P, same with Flamelurker (although I still haven't beaten him YET. I've gotten him down pretty low, low enough to know that I can do it, but I just don't want to at the moment.
Also, the miners are easy. I love how I can backstab six in a row without the others turning around.
Gah, died to flamelurker because I went into a panic and tried to heal while he was still in my face instead of getting to a safe distance from him first.
It's nice that I know exactly why I died and what I can do to prevent it in the future, but still, fffffffffffffffffffffff
Personally, I had no difficulty with Flamelurker. I used a spear so that I could keep my Purple Flame Shield up the entire time. Throw in a Regenerator Ring and I barely had to heal.
In other news, I started NG+ last night and started actually doing levels in Body Form. The extra health and ring are very nice and I'm enjoying fighting off Black Phantoms so far
I almost managed to use the Forward+R1 shove attack to push one into the pit in 1-1. Which would have been an awesomely dirty move. I'm looking forward to invading 5-1
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Sounds good. I had gotten my faith to 30 and had started pumping Vitality and Endurance but I guess I will put some more points into faith
I love this game.
Sounds good, ive been using my falchion+3 primarily, but i really should wrap my head around "every character is just stats" and that thyeres nothing holding me back from switching it up.
But yeah, Crescent will rock them. Basically, anything other than a normal weapon.
Keep posting guys, I'm at work and playing vicariously through you guys right now.
I had the white bow at +3 before I realised this and then just kept going for the trophy because at this point I am using the meat cleaver, the bow (until I get that vicious bow) and a quality winged spear. Nothing really unique in the lot at this time.
At least I know that I'll definitely be playing through this again - I'd love to see how different the game is for a full caster type character.
I have a problem now though, every other character has ended up with PWWT by the time I kill the boss in 1-2, opening the left path just inside 1-1. This time it's still closed, and I don't think I've done anything to shift it towards black (suiciding in the nexus). I guess I must have logged in the nexus?
Any suggestions for shifting world 1 towards white easily? I really want the binded armor.
But yeah, after beating Tower Knight you should Pure White. I did that earlier today.
Second character will be either dagger/claw/something bleed + plague build. Or a full on battle mage, 2h crescent weapon, pole from 3-1 PBWT for mana regen, etc.
But really, I love the shit out of the BBS.
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Bait and kill a Black Phantom.
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Have you killed the bridge dragon yet? I think that might actually push the WT towards white. It's been awhile since I paid attention to that so I may just be imagining things.
Killing the dragon does indeed push it towards white. That's why it's possible to get PWT without killing a third boss.
Just need to learn relief spell and make an insanity catalyst and I'll have a shiny platinum trophy.
Let me tell you about Demon's Souls....
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On a plus side, I downed 2-2, 2-3 and 5-2. I got my LSoM! Jesus fuck that thing is enormous, almost impractically so. Pretty damn slow too. I'm not sure how much I like the speed of it after using the Blessed Mace +1 for the last ~20 soul levels. I'm a little disappointed by it, but it is pretty smash-fucky.
I managed to pick up the helmet, shield and BP then became overloaded. I realized at that point that if I left the level the items would disappear. I panicked and tried reloading, but that just dropped me in the exact same spot and the items vanished
I guess I'm waiting till later when that other guy drops it. I suppose it's not a big deal because I don't have enough END to wear that set yet anyway.
I almost got my Winged Spear to +7. Scraping spear here I come! I'm gonna be such an asshole.
Either gank some black phantoms, or help another player defeat a boss as a blue phantom to bring up your tendency.
Except I have Pure White already. I was able to get the Dragon Bone Smasher easily, which also requires pure white.
Are you sure you're in the right spot?
I had a little trouble finding him at first.
Pretty sure, yeah. You take the right tunnel at the beginning of the level, drop down a couple of platforms, and he should be sitting right next to some crystal geckos in a dead end tunnel.
Unless you really need the Pure Greystone (I think that's what you get), I'd just wait for a NG+.
Do you plan on using magic or faith at all? If so, then yes, Royalty is probably the best choice. If you're going to be pure melee, one of the heavier armored class choices may be a better choice.
I think I am going use some magic. I definitely don't want pure melee, I was thinking some type of hybrid.
Yeah, I don't absolutely need it, thankfully. But I figured I'd go ahead and grab it.
My first character was a hybrid Melee/Magic/Faith. I started as a Temple Knight and did pretty well.
See, my problem is the games almost... Easy. I use soul arrow (or whatever its called) and the majority of the enemies die in 2 or 3 hits, the harder ones, after learning their attacks, are easy to beat. I'm currently trucking through... I guess its 2-2, (place with the flamelurker, I don't know how the worlds go), and so far, the only problems I've had in that level was that goddamn jumping/platforming puzzle you have to do to get down to him. I died like... 8 times on that because I was stupid. And, thats so far the only level I've died that much on, I've done 1-1, 1-2, 2-1, and died a total of like... 15-20 times, mostly due to stupid mistakes (I.E. falling damage, and switching to the wrong item, (I.E. getting out my catalyst when I wanted to get out my shield T.T)).
That being said, Armor spider is damn easy with magic :P, same with Flamelurker (although I still haven't beaten him YET. I've gotten him down pretty low, low enough to know that I can do it, but I just don't want to at the moment.
Also, the miners are easy. I love how I can backstab six in a row without the others turning around.
Armor Spider is easy for any class. Just stand against the wall and break out a bow. Same with Leechmonger.
Ohohohoho, you just wait
You just wait
It's nice that I know exactly why I died and what I can do to prevent it in the future, but still, fffffffffffffffffffffff
In other news, I started NG+ last night and started actually doing levels in Body Form. The extra health and ring are very nice and I'm enjoying fighting off Black Phantoms so far
I almost managed to use the Forward+R1 shove attack to push one into the pit in 1-1. Which would have been an awesomely dirty move. I'm looking forward to invading 5-1