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quitting smokign

SamSam Registered User regular
edited December 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
i have a bit of an advantage in that i didn't do it as a teen, and only started 3 years ago, did it regularly the last 2 years, and smoked a pack a day the past 1 year, although I'm down to a pack every 2 days now.

By and large I don't have that much trouble but today's my first quit day and I smoked 2 cigs (although one of them was out of frustration with something else)

I only "need" one after I've eaten a meal...but this isn't going to be easy, it's like giving up an all purpose anywhere anytime boredom cure.

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  • Captain VashCaptain Vash Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    do you have a cellphone that can play games?

    If you're able to distract yourself with games I would say this is going to be one of the single biggest helps out there, a very simple, high replay value game.

    Solitaire, brick breaker, snake, just something do to when you're idle and might otherwise go out and smoke.

    I know it's helped me quit bit to sit down and play a game of cube runner on my iphone.

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    You could get those e-cigarettes with no nicotine. That'd fill the boredom cure slot.

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  • SamSam Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    do those actually do anything? how are you supposed to get the sensation of breathing in smoke when you're breathing in nothing?

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    It's a miniature vaporizer so you're breathing in flavored (or not) water vapors.

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  • TaranisTaranis Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Chewing gum usually works for me when I'm trying to quit.

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  • BobCescaBobCesca Is a girl Birmingham, UKRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    japan used to drink a lot of green tea when he quit.

    Didn't work for me, but seemed to work well for him.

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  • KitsunaKitsuna Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    When I quit - and I smoked at least twenty a day for ten years - I tossed my baccy pouch, all my lighters and my ashtrays in the bin and started 'smoking' a fake cigarette - well, being the total cheapskate I am, I actually used a real cigarette and trusted in my willpower not to light the damn thing off of the stove. It goes without saying that if you don't trust yourself not to light up you'll want to get a fake one.

    It really does help because it keeps your hand busy and it does kind of fool you into thinking that you're smoking. It allows you to follow those physical habits you've ingrained into your routine, and for me at least, those were the main obstacle.

    Luckily for me I didn't get any nicotine cravings, but if you do, then start using some gum, patches or a nicotine inhaler.

    Another tip how might want to follow is to have a snack with you at all times to nibble on. Your appetite is going to go up and nibbles can help. A bag of nuts or dried fruit is a good healthy option. My preference was a small bag of sunflower seeds.

    Finally, I don't know where you're based, but you could have a look around for groups/organisations that help people quit smoking. I know that here in England you can get free NHS assistance in quitting. Maybe there's something similiar where you live. Can't hurt to look into whether there's free stuff or support available.

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  • The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I stopped constantly eating shitty food by chewing gum

    kitsuna's logic is good

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  • GiantRoboGiantRobo Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    When you want one, think of it more of a passing fancy and do something else. I also try not to look at the cigarettes when I'm with people who are smoking.

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  • ManofSteelManofSteel Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I rocked chewing sticks when I quit, you can get them plain or flavored if you prefer. They give your mouth something to do and they help me more when it comes to frustration smoking because you can just sit there and destroy them with your teeth.

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  • HoovesHooves Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    man if I were you I wouldn't go near those fake cigarettes. they always just made me want a real cigarette that much more.

    excercise really helps(as it does with most things). riding your bike around all day especially if you can get your heart rate up will make you really not want a cigarette.

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  • HoovesHooves Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    also everyone has this idea that when you decide to quit you need to just stop completely right then and there. there's nothing wrong with gradually cutting back. I'm to the point where I only smoke when I drink and even then I'll usually just put it out after a puff or two once I am reminded how gross it is.

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  • TaranisTaranis Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    You'll definitely want to start exercising when you quit, because you will gain weight unless you have a freakishly high metabolism.

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  • meatflowermeatflower Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    admanb wrote: »
    You could get those e-cigarettes with no nicotine. That'd fill the boredom cure slot.

    I've been using a Joye 510 since May of last year. No nicotine juice won't be enough to break off of real cigarettes at the beginning. You have to start with full strength nicotine so that it's an easy transition off of real cigs. I'm not going to lie though, electronic cigarettes are just as addictive as traditional analog cigarettes if not more so. You can use them anywhere, any time, indoors or outdoors and you will find more time to "smoke" then you ever did with regular cigarettes. However, unlike a traditional cigarette it is easier to titrate the dosage of nicotine if you use self control. This is no different than other nicotine replacement products which can also be overused, it's just a much better facsimile of smoking than any other previous method.

    For the first few months I probably "binged" on nicotine compared to how much I was getting from my previous pack a day. Unlike smoking an analog cigarette you don't have to smoke for 3-5 minutes or however long it took you previously to smoke one. This can end up meaning less time, and lower dosage, if you gradually switch to lower nicotine liquids.

    With the right equipment and juice (no Mall kiosk junk, or pre-filled cartridges, those are a ripoffs), they are the perfect cigarette replacement. Big plumes of vapor, good flavor, convenience and most of all those smoker symptoms disappear. There are more peer reviewed studies in favor of electronic nicotine vaporizers than there are against it. Propylene glycol, the main component of electronic cigarette nicotine liquid, is not just safe but by most accounts beneficial...
    There are studies regarding inhalation of propylene glycol and its safety dating back to the 1940's. In fact, it has been used extensively in situations where it would be inhaled in the US since the 1950’s. It has been used in medical devices such as asthma inhalers, as an air disinfectant in places like hospitals and restaurants, and even in hundreds of thousands of entertainment venues such as bars and theaters, since it is the substance used for fog and artificial smoke machines.

    Anyone looking for more information should visit http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/, one of the better e-cig forums on the web that's very active.

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  • TaranisTaranis Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    So e-cigarettes can satiate cravings, and yet they contain no carcinogens (since wikipedia leads me to believe that nicotine on its own isn't a carcinogen)?

    What's the down side?

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Taranis wrote: »
    So e-cigarettes can satiate cravings, and yet they contain no carcinogens (since wikipedia leads me to believe that nicotine on its own isn't a carcinogen)?

    What's the down side?

    Nicotine is still a physically addictive drug with abnormal effects on your physiology, and the overall effects of e-cigs haven't been thoroughly studied.

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  • meatflowermeatflower Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    That they're still fucking addictive and cost money. Way less than normal cigarettes though, which makes it...more addictive. :winky:

    The initial investment is $50, monthly juice requirements for myself is about 30ml which costs anywhere from $10-20 depending on where you buy. Compare that to $6/day (in California), when I smoked a pack a day and you can see it's a fraction of the cost. True, you need to spend about $10 a month on new equipment (atomizers eventually burn out, and batteries need replacing every 2 months or so) but it's still way cheaper.

    This makes it a little harder to stop, with no health downsides being the real clincher. I feel like I used to when I was a non-smoker. I can walk up the 4 flights of stairs to my apartment without panting for air again. And I still get to "smoke" when I'm out drinking, or just with all my friend's who happen to be smokers at my place.

    I think over time it's easier to break away from then real cigarettes, I myself have been using lower nicotine juice or just using it for less time in the day over the past few months. I didn't use it at all between Christmas Eve and now and I'm not freaking out. Sure, I'm going to use it still but I've definitely started breaking away from it.

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  • TaranisTaranis Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Well shit, I'm sold. I smoke almost a pack a day as it is, and I'm not ready to quit yet so this sounds perfect.

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  • meatflowermeatflower Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I'm not shilling here because this is just the shit I use, I have no affiliation with these sites. I've been at this for a while and have tried a lot of vendors and different equipment. You can go cross-reference this info on the forums I mentioned, I'd be surprised if you came to a different conclusion.

    You want a Joye 510 from here: http://www.litecigusa.net/Joye-510-Vaporizer-joye510bk.htm

    That's the best price on a genuine Joye tech starter kit out there, with cheap and fast USPS shipping. I've found the 510 to have the most reliable atomizers out there. I used a 901 and an M401 before, two other popular models and their atomizers lose vapor production much faster and simply don't work as well in my opinion. None of my 901 or 401 atomizers made it past two weeks without either totally breaking or just losing 50% or more vapor production, most of my 510 att's have been kicking for a month plus and are at least 80% as good as new that far out. LitecigUSA has been around for a long time, and I'd consider them very reliable. I ordered my very first 901 starter kit from them back in May and have never had an issue. They also have a habit of throwing in a freebie bottle of juice whenever you order a starter kit or liquid.

    As I've stated previously, do not buy pre-filled carts. It's more expensive than buying the juice and refilling yourself. They also don't give as much vapor production, and with no spare juice around you'll have difficulty restarting a dry atomizer that just needs a drop on it to work right. I've seen a lot of people who saw my e-cig buy junk from a mall or smoke shop and they weren't ever happy with it, never really quit smoking, and rarely use them now.

    You can browse around on those forums for juice choices, a lot comes down to preferences and I'd read reviews. Buy juice from Litecig on your first order so it all comes at the same time and you're not stuck with those 5 starter carts. All the advertisements are lies, and they don't last as long as a pack. More like one cig. And you'll be jonesing quick. After that I'd switch to another juice vendor, as there are just much better choices out there. You can't go wrong buying from Totally Wicked, Dietsmokes, or Strictlyejuice. Those are in order of price, highest to lowest. You may want to buy 10ml bottles now, but try to buy 30ml's for the bulk discount once you find flavors you like.

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I'm in the process of quitting right now.

    What I did is gradually over a month or so ramped myself down to the point where if i smoked what feels like a lot of cigs in a day, it was 5 or 6.

    Then once I was at that point, I set a date (jan 1st for me) about 2 weeks in advance where I would be smoke free. I've actually not had a cigarette in a few days, and I don't plan to have any between now and jan 1st.

    I should point out that I'm allowing myself to smoke when I drink. I drink very seldomly though, so its not a big deal to me.

    One thing you have to do is break the psychological connections you have with smoking and other activities. Breaks at work, meals, etc. Also you have to start thinking everytime you smoke how disgusting it is.

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I smoked for 3 and a half years and one day I just quit. Just stop buying them. It's hard to keep smoking when you don't have any cigarettes to smoke. And just like with a bad breakup, you'll have to try and not be around smokers at all. It takes about 2 weeks for the physical addiction to go away. After that, things get a good bit better. I haven't had a cigarette in 9 years and I long ago went from wanting one, to hating being around them.

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Just stop buying them.


    This.

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