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eliseu gouveiaeliseu gouveia Registered User regular
edited April 2007 in Artist's Corner
It´s a very old comic but I hope you like it.

Written in 1993, I decided to redo its art a couple years ago after seeing the original pages.

Looks a bit dated but hey, it´s all in good fun, right?

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  • CamCam Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    The compression is bad, so you should try and fix that before anything else.

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  • XALXAL Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    From what I can see the art looks pretty damn good.

    As for the text/story, no idea because the compression makes it unreadable.

    re-post some higher-res shots.

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  • MaydayMayday Cutting edge goblin tech Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    That's a lot of Khajit razz.gif

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  • eliseu gouveiaeliseu gouveia Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Thanks, guys.

    I´ve re-uploaded the pages slightly bigger, let me know if it works better....


    Hey, Mayday..... what´s khajit?

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  • PeterAndCompanyPeterAndCompany Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    The compression is still pretty bad on the font. It's really hard to read even at a larger size. You might want to just use a different font, or adjust the size of the font itself (instead of the overall image). I'd imagine even in printed form that would still be hard to read.

    The art looks great... although I'm having problems figuring out your light source on some of these panels.

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Something small that jumped out at me was how on page three, panel one, there's a narration box over the figure on the right's legs. It just looks sort of awkward, especially since there's plenty of white space right to the lower left of the guy. I don't even know if you're lettering this, but if you are, I'd fix it. It's such a minor thing that would improve the look of the panel without disrupting the flow.

    Otherwise, good work all around. These really have kind of a classic George Perez/Phil Jimenez look to them.

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  • (ohms)Crunchy(ohms)Crunchy Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Thanks, guys.

    I´ve re-uploaded the pages slightly bigger, let me know if it works better....


    Hey, Mayday..... what´s khajit?
    I suggest you buy Morrowind.

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  • eliseu gouveiaeliseu gouveia Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Thanks, PeterAndCompany, I´m resizing the lettering up a bit, hope it+s a bit more readavble now....

    Hey, Munch, thanks for pointing that out, I have to confess I never liked that panel. Ever! So, I guess I was waiting for someone to single it out so I could shoot it down :) Hope it looks a bit better now :)

    (ohms)Crunchy -I´ve heard about that game but never got to play it. Wasn´t it kinda like Warcraft?

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  • (ohms)Crunchy(ohms)Crunchy Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    (ohms)Crunchy -I´ve heard about that game but never got to play it. Wasn´t it kinda like Warcraft?
    Hah, not quite. :P

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  • eliseu gouveiaeliseu gouveia Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Okay, but what about the khajit thing. What is it?

    At first I thought it was some exotic dish. :p

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  • (ohms)Crunchy(ohms)Crunchy Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Okay, but what about the khajit thing. What is it?

    At first I thought it was some exotic dish. :p
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khajiit

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  • TM2 RampageTM2 Rampage Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Are you resizing these images the right way? Is it right for black and white art like this to look... pixelated/weird when it's sized down?

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  • eliseu gouveiaeliseu gouveia Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Oh!

    LOL

    When I read the word khajit, I thought it was referring to the giant beast because on another site someone mentioned it looked like a turtle (hence me thinking that khajit was some exotic dish).
    Originally, I called those creatures "orc asaris" but the design was much different then, more orc-like, less cat-like. Somewhere along the line it mutated into what you see here.

    I am resizing them down from 11"X17" at 300 dpi but in my screen they seem alright, noit much different or more pixelated than what you normaly see on the net....

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  • eliseu gouveiaeliseu gouveia Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
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  • bombardierbombardier Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited January 2007
    You can't be resizing them correctly. What colourspace are you working in when you resize? Make sure it's greyscale or RGB with bicubic resampling filter.

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  • JohannenJohannen Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I'm finding it quite difficult to read the text in the comic. I don't know if it's a size issue or if it may be a problem with that fonts readability a that size.

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  • art monkeyart monkey Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I'd love to be able to read that, cause it looks superb.

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  • eliseu gouveiaeliseu gouveia Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I really don´t understand what is going on, I can read it just fine in my monitor... :(

    Do you have trouble reading all the word ballons or only the ones inverted with the whitte letters set against a black background?

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  • art monkeyart monkey Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    You know when you get an image, and you force it to resize on a website, and the image doesnt re-render according to the image resize, it just crunches all the data into itself. It looks like that.

    Like when you look at your image in PS at odd resolution sizes. eg: 50% and 100% looks good but 66.75% looks like crap.

    Are you doing something wack, like flattening your image, converting it to a tiff for print, and then using your tiff to resize down for the web?
    If so, true type formats don't allow for resizing the same as a working file format will.

    Use bombardiers advice to resize correctly.

    Try using png too.

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  • Darken RahlDarken Rahl Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    It looks as if you're using a resampling choice of nearest neighbor, which isnt what you want at all.

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  • drinkinstoutdrinkinstout Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I too can't seem to read it well enough to enjoy it as a comic - the art is great though, from what I can tell with all the pixelation :)

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  • eliseu gouveiaeliseu gouveia Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I have it set to bicubic.
    In my monitor screen it seems okay, so how do I fix it so that other viewers can read the pages?

    Help!

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  • drinkinstoutdrinkinstout Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I have it set to bicubic.
    In my monitor screen it seems okay, so how do I fix it so that other viewers can read the pages?

    Help!

    is it a fixed pallette or b&w? Change it to greyscale or RGB before resizing it - see if that helps. Could also go to 600px wide instead of specifying 800px high.

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  • TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I'm getting a huge Warcraft vibe from the character designs. That's not a bad thing, but it's hitting me pretty hard. Anyone else get this?

    I'm seeing orcs and druids.

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  • eliseu gouveiaeliseu gouveia Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Well, I´ve never played Warcraft (Sorry!! Don´t kill me!!) but orcs, trolls, hobgoblins, elves, dwarves, sorcerers and warrior priests have been the staple of every high fantasy game and tale from Dungeon & Dragons to Lord of the Ring to Warcraft.


    I did some tinkering with the resizeing of the pages, let me know if it works better now....
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  • eliseu gouveiaeliseu gouveia Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
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  • bombardierbombardier Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited January 2007
    Yeah, the resizing is fine now. The pages are a bit small to read the font comfortably though.

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  • eliseu gouveiaeliseu gouveia Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Sorry about that. this site seems to automatically shrink them down or something....

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  • RazzaRazza Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I'm getting a strong "Dino Riders" vibe from this, Youtube has a couple of episodes if you've never seen it. Great show, made up a large part of my childhood :P

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    Have love, will travel.
  • eliseu gouveiaeliseu gouveia Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Well I ´ve never seen it but if it´s High Fantasy (wizards, warriors, dwarves, elves, orcs), then I´m not surprised that my story reminds you of it since we drank from the same fountain :)

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  • RazzaRazza Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Its really nothing like that at all hah. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Dino+Riders It has more to do with the fact that people are riding around on Dinosaurs :P

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  • eliseu gouveiaeliseu gouveia Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Well, in my story they ride gryphs :)

    And not just any gryphs but pocket gryphs :D

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  • BelieveBelieve Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I really, really really like these lines of yours. Great job with shading, and... and everything! :o

    I wait patiently for another page.

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  • eliseu gouveiaeliseu gouveia Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Thank, you, Believe, I´m really glad you like it :)

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  • CyberMonkeytron3000CyberMonkeytron3000 Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I really like your art and all, but the fonts you use for sound effects need to go. The panel with the 'bap/ clang/ crack/ whud/ whack/ whack/ bap/ whack' i find is really cheapened by text. And don't even get me started on the arrows 'ssssssssss'.

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  • eliseu gouveiaeliseu gouveia Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Thanks, CyberMonkeytron3000 :)

    Yeah, my lettering really sucks...

    Sorry......

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  • eliseu gouveiaeliseu gouveia Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
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  • The One Dark KnightThe One Dark Knight Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Your inking skills are amazing.


    May I ask, what tool do you use for inking? Fountain pen?

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  • eliseu gouveiaeliseu gouveia Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Thanks, Dark Knight :)

    I use two different tools for inking, a rottring rapidograph pen (either 0.5 or 0.35mm) and a brush.

    In time I replaced my brush with this puppy and have never looked back.

    After the traditional inking comes the digital post where I scan the page into the computer and digitally correct any art mishaps with a Wacom tablet (Volitos 2) and my trusty Photoshop 5.5.

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  • eliseu gouveiaeliseu gouveia Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
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