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What you didn't know about the games you play

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Raving Rabbit Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I know there's a ton of stuff you can hack into in Fable. Like the dragon's lair, with dragon...that crashes the game unless you make it run with the AI of the giant wasp boss. I think they also removed all the fences and found out you can run between most areas, just like most of the demos showed.

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  • ArcibiArcibi Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
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    LMAO

    NOT a photoshop.
    Well. This should be very interesting.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    No fucking question anymore, Wechina is Tails. Tails' icon is in the game, and if you double jump with Wechina, you can fly just like tails.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Arcibi wrote: »
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    LMAO

    NOT a photoshop.
    Well. This should be very interesting.

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  • Gorilla SaladGorilla Salad Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Seriously, man, I see a new avatar for you.

    And if you don't want it, someone else should take it.

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    Organichu wrote: »
    The main rub is that, fuck, I'm already paying some to upgrade the length... why not pay a little bit more to upgrade the length AND width?
  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Titmouse wrote: »
    He looks like he is going to rape or kill me with his thumb.

    Can't he do both?

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  • existexist Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    So in Ristar (final) - there is this odd text string hidden in the source code that never gets used anywhere else. It says "RISTAR is NOT volt" and for years no one knew what the hell it meant

    turns out that when Ristar was in development, one of the names it was going under was Volt the Voltage. In fact, that name predates FEEL.

    Thus the dev history of ristar through names goes

    Volt the Voltage -> Feel -> Ristar -> Dexstar -> Ristar

    that's right, Ristar was changed from Ristar to Dexstar and then changed back to Ristar.


    Dexstar is just about the worst name ever. Right after Volt the Voltage.

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  • Waka LakaWaka Laka Riding the stuffed Unicorn If ya know what I mean.Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
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    The bushes in Mario Bros were just recolored clouds.Cheap.

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  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Rizzi wrote: »
    I want information on Final Fantasy games.

    There are a gajillion FFIV's

    You got your

    cancelled in development FFIV for the NES with graphics similiar to the first 3 games, different story, etc

    FFIV for Japan SFC

    FFIV as FF2 (a modified (made easier) FFIV) for US SNES

    FFIV Eastype (based on the above) for Japan SFC

    FFIV as it was ported on FF Collection for Japan PS1 / FF Chronicles for US PS1 - based on original, but with some Easytype stuff - redone english script and dialogue - new intro and ending FMVs, some other features

    FFIV Wonderswan Color for Japan - minor graphical updates

    FFIV Advance for Japan and US - further minor graphical updates, reworked english translation again

    FFIV DS (3D remake) for DS for Japan and (coming) US - woot

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  • SixfortyfiveSixfortyfive Registered User
    edited February 2008
    I needed a good reason to replay Phantasy Star IV again. This Sega prototype nerd-splosion provides that very reason. Though, since this just concerns the American version, this isn't so much a "prototype" as it is an early and very rough translation.

    All of the following come from a May 30, 1994 pre-release version. The final game did not hit store shelves until February of 1995... As far as I can tell, the May 30 version is almost entirely complete translation-wise and just in need of some major revising. Why on earth did this take so long to come out?

    First off: character names. Several names are different. Some are Japanese originals (Rudy), others are slight mistranslations of the originals (Ryre, should be Lyla), and others still are entirely different (Rein).

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    The whole thing is very rough. Some parts are Engrish-like and others are missing a lot of the characterization and emotion present in the final version. (I'm wondering how Raja and Rika's joke sessions on Dezoris stack up in this version...)

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    Was this in the final?

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    The translation in this version seems to be very literal. The intro:
    The long long war from ancient times was finally over.
    The winner sacrificed the loser to the heavens.
    Four bells tolled. Four torches were lit.
    And the world continued for thousands of years...


    The Algo solar system, bearing its existence in the heavenly skies...

    In the past, within those stars in the system, a brilliant civilization flourished. The people devoted themselves completely to the pursuit of prosperity and pleasure.

    But, in a series of disasters the planet's management system, 'Mother Brain,' was destroyed. The result was the destruction of the first planet, 'Parma' entire population. The advanced scientific civilization was lost and the lives of the people declined into poverty.

    A thousand years has passed...

    In time a renewed strength and determination emerged among the people to try to make prosperity take root again. Due to cruel circumstances that would not be allowed to happen quite that easily...
    The long, long struggle of ancient times finally ended...
    The victor sacrificed the vanquished to the heavens.
    Four bells tolled. Four torches were lit.
    And the world continued for thousands of years...


    The Algo solar system, somewhere in space...

    Once a brilliant civilization flourished here. The citizens devoted themselves to the art and the sciences, and life was prosperous and good.

    Then a series of disasters struck. The system-wide management system, 'Mother Brain,' was destroyed. So was the first planet, Parma. Over 90% of the system's population died, and the advanced technological culture was lost.

    Society declined, spiralling downward until at last only a few scattered groups even remembered there were once better times.

    A thousand years passed.

    At last, civilization is once more on the rise across the Algo system.
    People are once again turning to the thought of an easier life. Old knowledge is being rediscovered.

    But just as things look brighter, beyond a threshold long thought closed, a dark and very ancient evil stirs...

    I leave you with this:

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    Lulz.

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    poasting something foolishly foolish.
  • SixfortyfiveSixfortyfive Registered User
    edited February 2008
    In one of the Sonic 2 betas, you can actually outrun Robotnik in the Death Egg Zone. As the person who discovered this said, "that's like a childhood dream right there."

    An early version of Streets of Rage 3 has surfaced that has some of the original Bare Knuckle 3 graphics before they were recolored and shat on in the final. Not sure if the difficulty has been fucked with for this one yet.

    EDIT: One of the Sonic 3&K betas has a credits medly with samples of most of the zone themes. The version used in the final release only has S&K music. This one was likely cut because it's so damn long (and unfortunately missing that awesome Lava Reef drum solo thing).

    For the curious, here's the entire list of games that these people have acquired in this endeavor:
    MASTER SYSTEM
    Aladdin

    GAME GEAR
    Adventures of Batman & Robin
    Aladdin
    Asterix
    Berenstain Bears
    Bonkers Wax Up!
    Chicago Syndicate
    Dynamite Headdy
    GP Rider
    Legend of Illusion Starring Mickey Mouse
    Lion King
    Mighty Morphin Power Rangers
    NBA Action Starring David Robinson
    NFL '95
    NHL All-Star Hockey
    Ristar
    Shining Force II
    Sonic Blast
    Sonic Spinball
    Sonic The Hedgehog: Triple Trouble
    Speedy Gonzales Cheese Catastrophe
    Sports Trivia
    Super Columns
    Taz in Escape from Mars
    Tempo Jr.
    World Series Baseball '95
    X-Men: Gamemaster's Legacy
    X-Men: Mojo World

    GENESIS
    Adventures of Batman & Robin
    Art of Fighting
    ATP Tour Championship Tennis
    Baby Boom
    Berenstain Bears' Camping Adventure
    Beyond Oasis / The Story of Thor
    Body Count
    Bonkers
    College Football's National Championship
    Comix Zone
    Crystal's Pony Tale
    Desert Demolition
    Dinosaurs for Hire
    Dynamite Headdy
    Escape From Mars Starring Taz
    Eternal Champions
    Jurassic Park
    Light Crusader
    Magic School Bus
    Mighty Morphin Power Rangers
    Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: The Movie
    NBA Action
    NBA Action '95
    NFL '95
    NHL All-Star Hockey '95
    The Ooze
    Phantasy Star IV
    Richard Scarry's Busytown
    Ristar
    Shadowrun
    Shining Force II
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Sonic & Knuckles
    Sonic 3 & Knuckles
    Knuckles in Sonic 2
    Sonic 3D Blast
    Star Trek: The Next Generation
    Streets of Rage 3
    Sub-Terrania
    Vectorman
    Vectorman 2
    Virtua Fighter 2
    Wacky Worlds Creativity Studio
    World Championship Soccer II
    World Heroes
    World Series Baseball
    World Series Baseball '95
    X-Men 2: Clone Wars
    Young Indiana Jones: Instrument of Chaos

    SEGA CD
    Adventures of Batman & Robin CD

    32X
    36 Great Holes starring Fred Couples
    Cosmic Carnage
    Doom
    Knuckles Chaotix
    Metal Head
    Motocross Championship
    Shadow Squadron
    Space Harrier
    Star Wars Arcade
    Tempo
    Virtua Fighter
    Virtua Racing Deluxe
    Zaxxon's Motherbase 2000

    PICO
    101 Dalmatians
    Berenstain Bears' A School Day
    Crayola Crayons Create a World
    Huckle and Lowly's Busiest Day Ever
    Lion King Adventure at Pride Rock
    Mickey's Blast Into the Past
    Musical Zoo
    Pepe's Puzzles
    Pico Sampler
    Sonic the Hedgehog's Gameworld
    Tails and the Music Maker
    Year at Pooh Corner

    SATURN
    Sonic 3D Blast
    Sonic R

    GAMECUBE
    Sonic Adventure 2 Battle
    Sonic Adventure DX
    Sonic Heroes
    Sonic Mega Collection

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    poasting something foolishly foolish.
  • yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Anything interesting in Comix Zone or the Vectorman games?

    Also, dammit, you guys make me jealous of your 'leet skills' and such.

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  • ImpersonatorImpersonator Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I still don't understand, what happened for you guys to have all those betas and pre-released versions?

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    Bioptic wrote: »
    Lemmings was pro-Communist propeganda. All are created equal, sorted into specific jobs and roles that they will hold for the rest of their lives by a higher authority, and must sacrifice continuously for the good of the group. Success is measured by meeting quotas and nothing else. Also, nuclear holocaust.
  • GlalGlal Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Things That Are Not To Be Discussed Here happened. TSR gives us cool info and we don't ask where it came from.

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  • SixfortyfiveSixfortyfive Registered User
    edited February 2008
    I still don't understand, what happened for you guys to have all those betas and pre-released versions?

    I don't know the details (I just heard of this for the first time last night), but a single person pretty much acquired 1000+ prototypes from Sega of America circa 1994-95 all at once for thousands of dollars, patched the raw dumps so that they were playable, and packaged and shared them with the Sonic community.

    The only disappointing thing is that the vast majority of the prototypes here span only 1 year of development and only at SOA. This is significant for Sonic games, as almost every major Sonic game between Sonic 2 and Sonic X-Treme were developed under SOA at the Sega Technical Institute, but less so for anything that originated from Japan.

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  • ImpersonatorImpersonator Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    But if it happened circa 94, 95 why the sudden rush on new info about past Sega games?

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    Bioptic wrote: »
    Lemmings was pro-Communist propeganda. All are created equal, sorted into specific jobs and roles that they will hold for the rest of their lives by a higher authority, and must sacrifice continuously for the good of the group. Success is measured by meeting quotas and nothing else. Also, nuclear holocaust.
  • SixfortyfiveSixfortyfive Registered User
    edited February 2008
    But if it happened circa 94, 95 why the sudden rush on new info about past Sega games?
    The prototypes themselves are from ~1994. This dude just got a hold of them like a week ago.

    Like I said, I don't know any more details.

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  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    If we're covering beta stuff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIeLGifENbI Aliens: Colonial Marines beta that turned up a while back. Doesn't give you much since it looks like it was pretty earlyish in develpment. Still, interesting none the less.

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  • -SPI--SPI- Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Acquired from Sega for thousands of dollars or from some other party unrelated to them? I'm finding the story of how these prototypes got into this person's hands to be far far more interesting than the prototypes themselves could ever be. Please keep us up to date on that if more details emerge.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    -SPI- wrote: »
    Acquired from Sega for thousands of dollars? I'm finding the story of how these prototypes got into this persons hands to be far far more interesting than the prototypes themselves could ever be. Please keep us up to date on that if more details emerge.

    I've said before, there are many members in the sonic community who work for sega. High up people too, not grunt workers, like programmers or testers. We're talking producers and directors.

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  • -SPI--SPI- Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    -SPI- wrote: »
    Acquired from Sega for thousands of dollars? I'm finding the story of how these prototypes got into this persons hands to be far far more interesting than the prototypes themselves could ever be. Please keep us up to date on that if more details emerge.

    I've said before, there are many members in the sonic community who work for sega. High up people too, not grunt workers, like programmers or testers. We're talking producers and directors.
    Wow, the potential implications of this are nuts.

    I wonder if we'll see this getting investigated internally within SEGA? I can't see a company just letting such a massive breach of their security just slide, this is their intellectual property being gutted and inspected in detail after all.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    -SPI- wrote: »
    Acquired from Sega for thousands of dollars? I'm finding the story of how these prototypes got into this persons hands to be far far more interesting than the prototypes themselves could ever be. Please keep us up to date on that if more details emerge.

    I've said before, there are many members in the sonic community who work for sega. High up people too, not grunt workers, like programmers or testers. We're talking producers and directors.

    TheSonicRetard is Yuji Naka : Confirmed!

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    scarab you have mental problems
  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Just keep all this relatively on the down-low. It's being dugg all around the internet, but the details and specifics shouldn't really be discussed.

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  • -SPI--SPI- Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Are you kidding me? This is the most interesting story about Sega since the dreamcast died! I can only hope some news site blows the lid off it completely, as the sordid tale behind the scenes is infinitely more exciting than the fact that Ristar went through several renames or something.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Alright, let me rephrase this:

    DON'T FUCKING TALK ABOUT WHERE THIS CAME FROM OR SEVERAL PEOPLE COULD POTENTIALLY GO TO JAIL.

    REAL jail, not PA Jail.

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  • -SPI--SPI- Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Well, guess we'll all have to wait and see what happens then.

    Still, NUTS.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    PA Jail is worse than Real Jail.

    Or at least that's what Cardboard Tube wants us to believe.

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    scarab you have mental problems
  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    PA Jail is worse than Real Jail.

    Or at least that's what Cardboard Tube wants us to believe.

    I've never been raped in PA jail.

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  • Gorilla SaladGorilla Salad Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    PA Jail is worse than Real Jail.

    Or at least that's what Cardboard Tube wants us to believe.

    I've never been raped in PA jail.
    But have you ever been raped in Real Jail?

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    Organichu wrote: »
    The main rub is that, fuck, I'm already paying some to upgrade the length... why not pay a little bit more to upgrade the length AND width?
  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    PA Jail is worse than Real Jail.

    Or at least that's what Cardboard Tube wants us to believe.

    I've never been raped in PA jail.
    But have you ever been raped in Real Jail?

    look, this topic is not about when I may or may not have been raped in real jail.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    It fucking is now.

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  • Resident0Resident0 Registered User
    edited February 2008
    -The name change from Miles Prower to Miles "Tails" Prower was one of the last changes in Sonic 2.-

    There's a code you can input in Sonic The Hedgehog 2 on the title screen that actually put's the game back to before the changes like Miles being changed to Tails... etc.

    Oh yes. Did you know that TSR?

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  • One Thousand CablesOne Thousand Cables An absence of thought Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    damn!!!

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Resident0 wrote: »
    -The name change from Miles Prower to Miles "Tails" Prower was one of the last changes in Sonic 2.-

    There's a code you can input in Sonic The Hedgehog 2 on the title screen that actually put's the game back to before the changes like Miles being changed to Tails... etc.

    Oh yes. Did you know that TSR?

    Tails' name is always Miles in japan.

    And yes, I knew that.

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  • Resident0Resident0 Registered User
    edited February 2008
    Resident0 wrote: »
    -The name change from Miles Prower to Miles "Tails" Prower was one of the last changes in Sonic 2.-

    There's a code you can input in Sonic The Hedgehog 2 on the title screen that actually put's the game back to before the changes like Miles being changed to Tails... etc.

    Oh yes. Did you know that TSR?

    Tails' name is always Miles in japan.

    And yes, I knew that.

    Awesome! I meant on the UK/PAL Sonic 2 retail cartridge though, not that BETA from SEGA US.

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  • johnct311johnct311 Registered User
    edited February 2008
    Wow. I've been reading through this thread for the past couple days and I've found all this stuff absolutely incredible. I had to register just so I could post any questions I can think of. And I believe I had thought of one just now.
    TSR, I gotta ask out of curiosity. Have you managed turn up anything of note on NiGHTS? I'm sure there's a lot of people out there curious about that goings-on from that game's behind-the-scenes.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    So it's been proven now that Sonic Crackers is a beta of Knuckles Chaotix. Not a test, not a concept, but 100% a very early beta of Chaotix. Early versions of chaotix were built directly off of crackers. Sonic and Tails' level icons appear, and they are selectable. Selecting sonic yields mighty (which proves that sonic became mighty), and selecting tails yields wechina... who uses mighty's palette. In Sonic Crackers, Sonic and Tails shared a palette. Wechina also shares Tails moveset from Sonic Crackers. Sonic Cracker's palette is still in early versions of Knuckles Chaotix, which is the only palette to display Sonic and Tails' icons correctly.

    Even though it's always been totally obvious, it's nice to now have proof.

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Raving Rabbit Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Adventure isn't the Dreamcast version? Interest level dropping.

    However, PS4 and Shining Force? Woooooooooo! Those are games I could just look at a playthrough of and smile the whole time.

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  • SixfortyfiveSixfortyfive Registered User
    edited February 2008
    Speaking of PSIV, I've got more to add to my previous post.

    More characters. Rika keeps her Japanese name; Demi gets a close approximation (Freyna).

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    More lulz:

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    I'm kind of afraid that I'm rushing through the game and missing things. A lot of things look normal at first glance to me. I also need to double check the final version to see if any of these slipped through.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
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