UnExalted : An Interest Thread

HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
edited February 2010 in Critical Failures
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Horseshoe, I think you have another terrible idea or something.
Yes. That wasn't really a question, but yes.

Normally, I get really excited about my really bad ideas. But this time I probably I won't be super duper serious with this post because... well it's Exalted. I can't keep a straight face with this game for very long. You may want to read this post with that in mind. Oh, and what I'm doing is considering running a game of Exalted without any goddamn Exalts in it. And that is the story of the misleading title of UnExalted.
Exalted without Exalts is dumb.
Maybe it's Exalted with Exalts that's dumb. And your face. Huh? Maybe that.
Okay so if I wanted to play your dumb game I would Need Things.
An astute observation. It also assumes that I would actually be running the game which hasn't happened just yet.

In that event, you'd need internet access, willingness to post on the forum regularly and do some IRC now and then on an irregular basis. My basis, it is irregular.

Oh, and the Exalted 2nd Edition Rulebook and the Scroll of Heroes.

Also the willingness to put some work into your character sheet.
I would want to also use this other stupid Exalted book that's stupid.
No.
Please?
No.
Okay. I assume there is another point to this thread.
Yes there is. Now is the part where I rattle on about it for a while about why I clicked the new thread button. Ready?
No.
Too bad.

Alright, so a few of you know my stance on the Exalted Ruleset.
"These Rules, they are pretty bad." - Horseshoe

"See, I hate this game again. Fuck you, game." - Horseshoe

"FUCK YOU GAME" - Horseshoe

"Exalted: it's so epic you can't actually play it." - Horseshoe

Yep. I said them things. But in spite of the rules I do very much enjoy Exalted, a game that is simultaneously among those games that are Very Good and those that are Very Bad.

But I'm kind of tired of Solars. Lunars are okay but meh. I don't have any idea what's up with Sidereals. Dragon-Bloods are boring. Infernals is butts. Abyssals is mega-butts. Alchemicals is ultra-mega-butts. And so on.

The thing with creation is that its fabric is weaved from the lives of mortals. Not the oh so special chosen super good/evil/over9000/emo/yiffyiff/angryface/beepboop/smartypants/lookatmyforehead or whatever the fuck the deal is with thems Exalts. Nah. Mortals. Someone gotta farm. Someone gotta cut trees. Someone gotta herd goats. Someone gotta protect the tribe. Someone gotta lead his people, speak wisdom to them, and get through the hard times that are either ignored by or caused by a bunch of megasuperpowered assholes crapping one million knifelasers per second at one another.

And also playing mortals instead of exalts makes a bit simpler the combats. This is something I can get behind.

Oh yeah... and what the hell is so great about that frikkin island or whatever that craps is in the middle? It's all politics and bullshit and a bunch of self-important butts probably. I so bet you it is. If I want fantasy politics and nonsensical butts that make me wish i was killing something, i'll just watch fox news or listen to npr or read a blog. Screw that noise. I would much rather see what happens in the way out of the way parts of Creation, where the Exalts and Super-Empress Scarlet Whatshername are pretty much out of the picture completely.

Still, you have to be strong enough to kill a yeti and not die of dysentery after you eat it raw.

So basically we are talking something like: Heroic Mortals, God/Ghost/etc-Bloods and those other peoples from Scroll of Heroes who are Important Folks in their various tribes that live in isolation at the extremes of Creation's cardinal directions, where maps are meaningless and life itself is won through sweat, blood, and grit.

What about Elemental Poles and The Wyld and shit?
Don't be such a nerd. Creation is ridiculously massive. There could be goddamned anything out there. Like, oh... I don't know... Dinosaur Kings. Yeah. The way I see it, if you've got Dinosaur Kings that means almost anything else is fair game.

Put down the book for a while and get primitive.

You are dumb.
Your face is dumb.

So basically looking for interest, questions about what the hell am I thinking, discussion, heckling or whatever. This is the sort of game I'd want to play, but since nobody else would run it I guess I will and be super jealous of you who are playing. Or something. Maybe ask me how good I smell today, or what wine might pair well with spagetti-o's.

Also developing how shit works is fine too. For example some rules in Scroll of Heroes may be butts and maybe you should notify me if you have a better mind for Exalted than I do, which is... quite likely. And another example would be like... which extreme edge of creation we may be talking about here because I've more than one idea on that myself.

If this thread starts going somewhere I'll turn it into a recruiting thing and start a game at some point.

So post or something. You guys.

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Merits and Flaws in a lot of cases are really, really terrible and change things that don't need to be changed (like the 'cache' merit) or otherwise really shake things up in ways that shouldn't happen (like the merit that extends the power of your Appearance bonus, although I guess that's a bigger deal for Exalted.)

    Also I am so interested

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  • HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    yeah there's no point in taking a flaw that will absolutely never come up... if there's no penalty it's not so much a flaw as it is free dots.

    having a climate sensitivity to extreme cold if the game was in the hot humid ass jungles of the east

    that simply would not fly

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  • Harmonic DrakeHarmonic Drake Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Your words intrigue me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. Also, so much interest it's accruing right now and I may not be able to pay it off.

    I'll give Scroll of Heroes a read; I've always wondered if someone could make a game that's focused on the lesser (in terms of raw power, not character) beings of the Exalted world.

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  • Cynic JesterCynic Jester Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    So, how good do you smell today?

    And on a related note, this is an idea I can get behind. Exalted without all those charms sounds like it'd be lethal as all fuck for all involved.

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  • adventfallsadventfalls Why would you wish to know? Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I must do this. I will take this to the not-quite-so-definite-limit.

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  • RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    There's lots of opportunity for interesting things to happen this way.

    Just note that mortals die REALLY FUCKING EASILY.

    Anyway, if you want to do just scroll of heroes+core, I'd strongly suggest just limiting it to heroic mortals because honestly the xblooded are pretty confusing and a bit stupid.

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  • SUPERSUGASUPERSUGA Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Horseshoe, I have no real interest in playing Exalted but I enjoyed that OP thoroughly. Everyone should sign up for this and play.

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    lethal as all fuck for all involved.

    bleed to death the first time you get hurt basically

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  • InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Shoe you are the worst.

    :^:

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  • Harmonic DrakeHarmonic Drake Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    White Wolf really likes the number five.

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  • HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    So, how good do you smell today?

    According to local sources, I smell fine; like laundry done some time ago but not particularly dirty, still retaining the aroma of detergent.
    And on a related note, this is an idea I can get behind. Exalted without all those charms sounds like it'd be lethal as all fuck for all involved.

    Yeah, well... I wouldn't expect every party member to survive. Life is tough for mortals.

    The game will last until the story has been told.

    One of the possible endings of any story is the death of all the protagonists.

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  • Harmonic DrakeHarmonic Drake Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I've always wondered what a story told in the West would be like. The past couple games I've played in have both been set in the East.

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  • PantheraOncaPantheraOnca Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    SUPERSUGA wrote: »
    Horseshoe, I have no real interest in playing Exalted but I enjoyed that OP thoroughly. Everyone should sign up for this and play.

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  • HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I actually have been thinking of the extreme west!

    Very isolated island chains in a vast vast ocean, sorta like the pacific rim. Land is very scarce and tirbal warfare is required in order for a tribe to grow.

    Also face-tattoed motherfuckers. And Rugby.

    KAMATE, KAMATE; KAORA, KAORA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BoNmpvkavo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdMCAV6Yd0Y

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOa7qtH4ZBs&feature=related

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  • HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Rainfall wrote: »
    There's lots of opportunity for interesting things to happen this way.

    Just note that mortals die REALLY FUCKING EASILY.

    Anyway, if you want to do just scroll of heroes+core, I'd strongly suggest just limiting it to heroic mortals because honestly the xblooded are pretty confusing and a bit stupid.

    Yeah, I was considering that if x-Bloods were to be used I would limit the types. Demon-Bloods are right out from the start. I don't like that business, and I don't like the text in the Scroll of Heroes. Half-Castes are out. It implies the presence of Exalts.

    Still thinking about whether or not I like the 'created races'.

    I like the flavor of God-Bloods, though, and would have to consider what to do for the mortals that would level things out a bit.

    Character Archetypes would be things like shamans, cheiftains, witches, hunters, etc.

    I may actually cook up a couple of examples of characters I would like to see in this game, and open for discussion how such a character might be built.

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I am thinking a ghost-blooded shaman or a god-blood adviser sort of character would be really tops

    I like the shaman best though

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  • LeumasWhiteLeumasWhite New ZealandRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    This should be an interesting watch, if it gets off the ground. Low-level Exalted > all.

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  • ZellpherZellpher Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Man, this sounds like fun. I unfortunately do not possess a rulebook and I am unlikely to play outside of this specific game.

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    The book talks about Half-Caste Infernals and Abyssals but does it mention that those types of Exalts haven't been around long enough to have children that aren't babies?

    Good work, Scroll of Heroes.

    Reminds me of all the half-night elfs in WoW.

    Not relevant to the game, just perusing the book.

    You said something about taking Cult to make up for the fact that eating people was a lame way to regain essence, right, Horse?

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  • HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    You said something about taking Cult to make up for the fact that eating people was a lame way to regain essence, right, Horse?
    \

    That's what I was thinking.

    Performing religious services for your people as a Shaman seems like a sensible enough way to recover essence, and would relate to the background.

    Like for instance channeling a spirit to talk to someone. It's still inconvenient but at least it's not drinking human blood.

    Speaking of Shamans that channel spirits... this is from Mongolia. A Buryat "Black Shaman" I believe.

    I really dig the veil

    A mongolian shaman's "whip" isn't a whip in the way that we might think of one.

    But maybe it would be cooler if it was.

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  • DrswordsDrswords Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    SUPERSUGA wrote: »
    Horseshoe, I have no real interest in playing Exalted but I enjoyed that OP thoroughly. Everyone should sign up for this and play.

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  • Harmonic DrakeHarmonic Drake Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    And here I was thinking of just a basic Gladiator-type Warrior. God-Blood, maybe. Now my idea seems pale in comparison.

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  • HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    a dude who is skilled in single combat ain't a guy to be taken lightly in this kinda place

    weapons are some serious shit here, and those who know how to use them well can become chieftains

    wooden oar shaped clubs of bone and hardwood with sharpened edges

    shark tooth knives

    sharpened stones in slings

    the fire in your blood boils like that of your deadbeat elemental father

    screaming your lungs out, your tattooed visage evoking fear in your enemies

    all that kinda shit

    get primal

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    tattoos are awesome

    just don't get cut

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  • HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    i'm not runnin some oregon trail shit here. you ain't die of dysentery or minor wounds. even if you're mortal you're a heroic mortal. like in the movies.

    my man jaguar paw here got stabbed with a spear, then chased through the jungle and he still pulled off this sweet move:

    war club time

    yeah.

    this is the kind of thing I would want to have happenin' in UnExalted.

    Mortal. Dirty. Awesome.

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  • Harmonic DrakeHarmonic Drake Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Now I'm interested in that movie. I read over the God-Blooded chapter, I think it's rather cool. Would God-Blooded, if we're in the West, mate with Seafolk rather than humans, since I'm guessing humans don't really exist out as far as we'll be?

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  • HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    you've definitely got humans out there.

    probably seafolk too.

    like i said:

    there's no map.

    is it really that far out? who knows?

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  • UnsaltedUnsalted Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    What type of wine goes with spaghetti-o's? This has been left unanswered. I am concerned. :(

    Also, this sounds fantastic.

    The problem I'm facing now is that I have no clue what Un/Exalted is, and have a feeling that I am missing something very painful.

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    get out imposter

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exalted <-- Exalted is a game about characters who punch gods in the head and explode them.

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  • RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    1. Pelagials worship the Neverborn. Gods don't really like them, they don't really like gods.

    2. Humans are allll across the West. Sure, some of them are horribly mutated but they're still humans.

    3. Gods will bone anything.

    4. Apocalypto is like my favorite movie ever.

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  • UnsaltedUnsalted Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Pah! Pah I say!



    Also, You have my attention.


    Edit:

    Oh sweet jebus, it looks like an anime chat room gone horribly wrong!

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Gone horribly right

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  • UnsaltedUnsalted Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    "...who were charged with governing Creation while the Primordials abdicated to play the mysterious Games of Divinity, the details of which have not been elaborated upon beyond their sublimity and addictiveness."

    It's bejeweled guys. That's the game they are playing. It all makes sense now.

    Edit - Because I'm reading this while posting and not waiting till I'm done reading it like one would usually do...

    No standard tolkienesque inspirations? I'm impressed.

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  • RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Bejeweled, WoW, Divine X-Box, whatevs.

    It is beyond our comprehension!

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Unsalted wrote: »
    "...who were charged with governing Creation while the Primordials abdicated to play the mysterious Games of Divinity, the details of which have not been elaborated upon beyond their sublimity and addictiveness."

    It's bejeweled guys. That's the game they are playing. It all makes sense now.

    Edit - Because I'm reading this while posting and not waiting till I'm done reading it like one would usually do...

    No standard tolkienesque inspirations? I'm impressed.

    Exalted makes a strong effort to be high fantasy in a very not traditional RPG fantasy manner and works out pretty well at it.

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  • RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Ah-ah-ah. Epic fantasy, not high fantasy.

    As in, draws inspiration from the epics of yore.

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  • Harmonic DrakeHarmonic Drake Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    One reason I like Exalted is its setting and how it's determinedly not Tolkein-esque.

    I also like the elemental aspect of it, but that's just me.

    I wonder what you'd get if you had a Demon-God-Ghost-Blooded Half-Caste Heroic Mortal Infernal?

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  • HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I wonder what you'd get if you had a Demon-God-Ghost-Blooded Half-Caste Heroic Mortal Infernal?

    a swift kick in the ass

    from me

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  • Harmonic DrakeHarmonic Drake Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Oh, I was just kidding. It's almost worth it, though.

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  • RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Well, to start with, you can't.

    Scroll of Heroes pretty explicitly breaks down which part of the half-breed will take over in a nice little sidebar in that chapter, so you can only be ONE type of x-blood. Any x-blooded is already a Heroic Mortal, and any Exalt by definition was a heroic mortal, but the Exaltation also overrides any benefits they had from Inheritance because it rewrites their Essence.

    So your character would be an Infernal.

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