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  • GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    cakemikz wrote: »
    Ah well I don't want anything to do with 3D modeling, no offense anyone who is into that. Though it might be good to learn for working out perspective easily in complex illustrations. What I want to talk to Kevin about is 2D animation.

    Yo

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  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    3D modeling is fun, useful for throwing down blocks then painting over for easy perspective. Very useful to have a basic knowledge if you want to be a concept artist so you know it's limitations. I found learning it easy, but apparently it gives some people a tuff time so I dunno. Once you know one 3D program, learning the other ones is way-easy. And apparently 3d Animation is 1000x easier if you know 2d animation, I wouldn't know because I suck at both. Either way it doesn't hurt to get one of the programs and mess around a bit.

    NO NAPP, there's no room. Penalties of nice view = Small living space (my floor is a bed and a fishtank), bleeding wallet, walking everywhere. Ok maybe you can crash. Under the bed. Watch for monsters. Actually everyone should just move to Vancouver.

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Thinking about it. Gotta go to San Diego first.

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  • GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Kochikens nailed it on the head.

    The only hurdle with 3D is technical gibberish. If you know how to animate (not draw, animate. Get into character) they can teach you the rest.

    Stephen Barnes was a top Pixar animator for five years between the era of A Bug's Life and Toy Story 2, and he can't draw to save his life.

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Kochikens wrote: »
    NO NAPP, there's no room. Penalties of nice view = Small living space (my floor is a bed and a fishtank), bleeding wallet, walking everywhere. Ok maybe you can crash. Under the bed. Watch for monsters. Actually everyone should just move to Vancouver.

    I will stay under your bed to make sure no monsters spawn there.

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • TamTam Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    fucking camper

    Tam on
  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Ok because I'm prettysure there's a big nest of spiders coming for my ears so

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Report him as a possible gold farmer/UCMer?

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Oh... we're talking spiders?

    I may have to adjust my tactics....

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • MustangMustang Arbiter of Unpopular Opinions Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    God my new desk is next to the lunch room and I have to listen to people watching Dr. fucking Phil everyday. It's damned infuriating listening to that pompous fuck everyday, saving the world a half hour at a time.

    Mustang on
  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Listen to my songs instead.

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    cakemikz wrote: »
    Ah well I don't want anything to do with 3D modeling, no offense anyone who is into that. Though it might be good to learn for working out perspective easily in complex illustrations. What I want to talk to Kevin about is 2D animation.

    It's very useful for that:
    planning.png

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I haven't listened to any of your music lately. I'm gonna have to root some of that up.

    I'm still searching for a program that I can compose and synthesize in.

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I haven't listened to any of your music lately. I'm gonna have to root some of that up.

    I'm still searching for a program that I can compose and synthesize in.

    Audacity will let you put samples together and record new ones. You can use something like OpenMPT to do synth stuff, but you'll need to find some good samples or tolerate crappy MIDI samples.

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  • bombardierbombardier Moderator mod
    edited January 2010
    Mustang wrote: »
    God my new desk is next to the lunch room and I have to listen to people watching Dr. fucking Phil everyday. It's damned infuriating listening to that pompous fuck everyday, saving the world a half hour at a time.

    You overhear a lot of stuff when you work next to the lunchroom, I've found. Fortunately the one I work next to doesn't have a TV.

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  • Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator mod
    edited January 2010
    So, I salvaged a bunch of movies from my Mom's basement when I was back in Michigan.

    Among the relics saved was this fucking amazing- and amazingly bad- movie:
    TRAXX.jpg

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    But its HBO!

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    "dynamited"

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  • NicNic Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Awesome. By some strange compulsion, I must see it.

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  • MustangMustang Arbiter of Unpopular Opinions Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Looks like the love child of Sylvester Stallone and Michael Bolton.
    Not this Michael Bolton.
    michael-bolton.jpg

    This one
    eclg.jpg
    He's so fucking sexy I could weep.

    Mustang on
  • NightDragonNightDragon 6th Grade Username Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    How important is it to have played the games that a company's made, if you're applying to work there? I'm not talking just "being familiar" with the titles, but actually having played them.

    I always imagine the scenario:

    "So! Have you played any of our games?"
    "...uhhhh....no.....I...was too poor to buy all the consoles that existed...I've primarily just played PC/Gameboy games?"
    "..."
    "I mean, uh....I've played a few other games on my friends' consoles? But...I don't...own a Playstation or an XBox or Wii or etc.?"
    "........."


    EMPLOYMENTFAIL

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  • MustangMustang Arbiter of Unpopular Opinions Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Just lie. Lying is a really effective interview tool.
    Just hit up metacritic, read a few of the more positive reviews on said games, and then bullshit based on said reviews.

    Mustang on
  • MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    How important is it to have played the games that a company's made, if you're applying to work there? I'm not talking just "being familiar" with the titles, but actually having played them.

    I always imagine the scenario:

    "So! Have you played any of our games?"
    "...uhhhh....no.....I...was too poor to buy all the consoles that existed...I've primarily just played PC/Gameboy games?"
    "..."
    "I mean, uh....I've played a few other games on my friends' consoles? But...I don't...own a Playstation or an XBox or Wii or etc.?"
    "........."


    EMPLOYMENTFAIL

    Or you can just do some research.

    What company are you applying for?

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  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I rented my companies only game and played through it the day before the interview. Very god damned useful as they asked me shit about it.

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  • mullymully Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    i like to imagine going to an interview for bethesda
    and them asking
    "so have you played any of our games?"
    "FALLOUT3"
    "oh good, what did you like most about it?"
    "THIS AND THIS AND THIS AND ... 3 hours later ... THIS AND THIS AND THIS AND THIS"

    mully on
  • NightDragonNightDragon 6th Grade Username Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I'm not talking about any specific company...just in general, I'm curious.

    .....and yeah, I don't think I'd feel comfortable enough to lie in an interview, and effectively.
    "UH UH UH YEAH I PLAYED THIS"
    "What did you think about the final boss on the WhatTheFuck level?"
    "UH UH UH HE LOOKED PRETTY MEAN YEP"
    "...it was a woman"
    "OH RIGHT OLOL YEAH I MUST HAVE MIXED UP THE LEVELS"
    "all....all of the bosses were female"
    "OH YEAH OLOL WHOOPS OLOLOLOL D:D:D: "

    ~~~~~~~~

    I mean, if I got an interview somewheres, I'd try to arrange a way to play at least *one* of their games beforehand, yes. I'd also research the hell out of the company and read game reviews and all that, etc. etc. ....I'd go prepared....but it's a sure-fire way to not be hired if you haven't played one at all, right? I mean....unless you're freaking amazing...and/or famous - in which case you'd probably be amazing, anyway. RITE!?

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  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Mine was like,

    "SO, WHAT DIDN'T YOU LIKE ABOUT BLABLABLA"
    "WHAT WOULD HAVE YOU CHANGED"
    "WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN IMPROVED"

    I was like ffff... So glad I played it beforehand, but so didn't want to insult. But many years of art critique has made me so nitpicky with the vidya. But yeah, def rent their stuff beforehand. Or atleast play SOMETHING new in general. I got asked so many videogame questions.

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  • MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I'd worry more about knowing what their titles were, and probably a couple of their bigger games so that you could discuss the art style/polygons/animation.

    You can either rent the game, find a demo, or look it up on youtube.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2010
    I'd just talk about how their game should be more like pokemon.

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  • Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator mod
    edited January 2010
    FFFF I hate you oil paints and your "I'm going to blend when you don't want me to and not going to blend when you do want me to" bullshit and your stupid brushes that fray all over the fucking place I just want to put in some fucking details you ass :x
    Rover_01.jpg
    Also fuck you camera flash glare and bad lighting setup

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  • NicNic Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Great work so far, Bacon. Keep at it, and your patience will be rewarded!

    Nic on
  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2010
    that's a pretty sweet painting, Bakes. how are your brushes fraying? you taking proper care of them?

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    To be honest, during an interview for a game company I would tell them why I enjoy their games and, more importantly, how i think their games could be improved and what I could do to improve them.

    It makes it sound like you're a worthwhile addition to their company.

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • MustangMustang Arbiter of Unpopular Opinions Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I'm not talking about any specific company...just in general, I'm curious.

    .....and yeah, I don't think I'd feel comfortable enough to lie in an interview, and effectively.
    "UH UH UH YEAH I PLAYED THIS"
    "What did you think about the final boss on the WhatTheFuck level?"
    "UH UH UH HE LOOKED PRETTY MEAN YEP"
    "...it was a woman"
    "OH RIGHT OLOL YEAH I MUST HAVE MIXED UP THE LEVELS"
    "all....all of the bosses were female"
    "OH YEAH OLOL WHOOPS OLOLOLOL D:D:D: "

    ~~~~~~~~

    I mean, if I got an interview somewheres, I'd try to arrange a way to play at least *one* of their games beforehand, yes. I'd also research the hell out of the company and read game reviews and all that, etc. etc. ....I'd go prepared....but it's a sure-fire way to not be hired if you haven't played one at all, right? I mean....unless you're freaking amazing...and/or famous - in which case you'd probably be amazing, anyway. RITE!?

    Meh; just go into the interview and say "Look guys, all your games suck, like really suck. I mean like they could suck a bowling ball through a length of hose suck. Now I could make them un-suck, but it's going to cost you monies, and when I say monies I mean like fuck-loads. So where's my desk?"

    Mustang on
  • Agent ColemanAgent Coleman Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    *Sees Bacon's painting*

    *single tear rolls down cheek*

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  • Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator mod
    edited January 2010
    that's a pretty sweet painting, Bakes. how are your brushes fraying? you taking proper care of them?

    I don't know! I just bought these brushes yesterday, half an hour of use and already I can't manage to get a clean, hard brushstroke out of them- just overly broad, over-texturey crap which is useless for what I want to do.

    I should have just done this in gouache, where getting hard edges is the easy part.

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2010
    are they cheap brushes? because those probably wont' hold a shape. i had all end of frustration before i buckled down and got some decent ones.

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  • ChillyChilly Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    nnnnnnnnnGGRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

    I just want to take my hat off and rub my head against a wall til the friction burns all of my hair off! I hate growing out my hair!

    Chilly on
  • Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator mod
    edited January 2010
    are they cheap brushes? because those probably wont' hold a shape. i had all end of frustration before i buckled down and got some decent ones.

    They're the same brands that everyone here at the school uses (Robert-Simmons Signet and Langnickel), and I trust the people here not to paint with or sell me on terrible things.

    I don't know if I just have bad luck, or if somehow I'm doing something absolutely retarded to them without knowing it or what. Do I need to click my heels and pray to the bristle gods before every stroke or something?

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  • NightDragonNightDragon 6th Grade Username Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    holy goodnesses, Baconator. That's a sweet oil paintin' so far.

    Honestly it looks like you've improved a lot in painting, compared to the last few I've seen. This one's coming along very well.

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