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Avatar - Golden Globes: conquered. The Oscars are next.
Sakeido
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I can't stop thinking about this movie and I don't think we have discussed everything about it that there is discuss. Like, for instance, its new record as the fastest movie ever to $1 billion worldwide and that it is now the 4th highest grossing movie with 2nd place all but guaranteed.. and that it is still hanging in there on the IMDB top 25, and people are still going to see it in droves.
Some other things:
Avatar guidebook - talks about Pandora, the na'vi, the flora and fauna. Has a dictionary of na'vi words in it for those of you who want na'vi to be the new Klingon. Grammatical rules on on their own wikipedia page (Na'vi language)
http://www.amazon.com/Avatar-Confidential-Biological-History-Camerons/dp/0061896756/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1262564122&sr=8-5
Avatar art book - all concept art with only a few exceptions, which is too bad. I would have preferred a coffee table book full of nothing but still captures from the movie..
http://www.amazon.com/Art-Avatar-James-Camerons-Adventure/dp/0810982862/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1262564122&sr=8-1
Official Avatar wiki - oddly enough, contains almost everything from the guidebook.
http://www.pandorapedia.com/doku.php
to the mod who changed my thread title: "lurve?"
Some other things:
Avatar guidebook - talks about Pandora, the na'vi, the flora and fauna. Has a dictionary of na'vi words in it for those of you who want na'vi to be the new Klingon. Grammatical rules on on their own wikipedia page (Na'vi language)
http://www.amazon.com/Avatar-Confidential-Biological-History-Camerons/dp/0061896756/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1262564122&sr=8-5
Avatar art book - all concept art with only a few exceptions, which is too bad. I would have preferred a coffee table book full of nothing but still captures from the movie..
http://www.amazon.com/Art-Avatar-James-Camerons-Adventure/dp/0810982862/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1262564122&sr=8-1
Official Avatar wiki - oddly enough, contains almost everything from the guidebook.
http://www.pandorapedia.com/doku.php
to the mod who changed my thread title: "lurve?"
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Sigourney Weaver narrating the world of Pandora
Let 'em eat fucking pineapples!
what was the budget again?
and one of the reasons it was that high was because they could re-use the technology for the sequels, so even if this didn't make much money the sequels would make the overall venture successful
so
yeahhhh
Like night and day.
Despite all the criticisms in the last thread, I still enjoyed every aspect, including the story and stereotypical characters. Except the stupid war on terror-inspired lines. Those are still the worst.
It was ridiculously entertaining. Fastest 2hrs and 45min I've ever spent in the theatre. I just wanted more when it was overD:
holy balls
now that's what I call a return on investment
I am assuming this is a joke. But in the off chance even half of it is serious, this is the one movie you should not wait for DVD, to say nothing of VHS or, god forbid, Betamax.
I saw this again yesterday, kind of surprised the last thread didn't ruin it for me. I loved it just as much. I'm so glad to see it doing so well. The local IMAX has sold out of every single showing so far. That's every day of the week, since it opened, every show has been sold out.
Clearly you hate fun 8-)
I thought technically, it was pretty. But T2, Aliens and Titanic were all far better than this movie. It wasn't bad, persay. But it wasn't great.
I worked with 3D imagery ten years ago, so maybe I'm a little jaded. The technology just isn't that new to me.
Also, I'm not going to sit through another 3D movie if they don't make those glasses more comfortable. I mean what the hell? My head felt like it was in a vice! (I was going to make a Casino or Golden Eye reference here, but I couldn't figure out how to make it funny.)
And there goes your credibility.
Almost every bit of technology used in this movie was created for this movie. So... uh... glad you worked on Tron, I guess?
Nonetheless, This weekend I think is being shortsold on the estimate. It's highest grossing Friday was THIS LAST Friday. It's 3rd Friday. Saturday barely dropped as well, and the previous weekday screenings (Mon-Thurs) were all significantly higher than its opening week. Word of Mouth is phenomenal, the 3D is providing the event atmosphere you need for repeat screenings due to the inability to replicate at home what you're getting at the theater.
Even with the lowball (I believe) estimate, this is only a 10 percent drop in it's 3rd weekend, following a 3 percent drop in it's second.
Guarantee it gets to Dark Knight. I still believe it beats Titanic. I dunno if it will get to 700 million, but we still haven't even seen your typical blockbuster formula apply to Avatar yet, so this is essentially a 350 million dollar headstart it gets before the typical decreases even BEGIN to kick in. Can it make another 250 mil before March when Alice in Wonderland starts shoving it off 3D screens?
I don't think that's out of the question in the slightest.
*none of this bla-bla has anything to do with the quality of Avatar as a film. This sort of horse-race trainspotting is done solely for the sake of trainspotting, and is completely divorced from the discussion of the film's content itself.
I still haven't seen it a 2nd time, myself. I'm realizing that I'm like my goofy uncle who was alive when Star Wars first came out, but only saw it once in the theater. There's some 11 year old out there right now who thinks I'm insane for not LIVING in that theater until the movie leaves, just like I couldn't comprehend how that goofy uncle could only see Star Wars ONCE on the big screen and call it good.
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Well, I was going to settle in and read the braille edition of the new Playboy magazine and make myself a glass of orange juice from concentrate but maybe you're right. Maybe I shouldn't wait for the home video version of the most beautiful movie ever made... hmmm.
I agree, personally. They might have been able to trim the end down a bit and add more time the middle section.. I fucking loved the entire movie start to finish, but the bit starting with
I fixed that for you.
For the record, I've never watched a movie a 2nd time in the theatres. Ever. But this movie seemed worth every penny, and every minute.
So hooray Cameron you get more of my monies
unfortunately, people never get tired of being reminded how much better we could all be. The trope is tired - in your opinion. A very significant proportion of the world population seems to disagree with you.
That was basically the first thing me and my friends said when the credits started
People aren't annoyed by being reminded that we can be "better"
I'm annoyed that natives are re-written along western narratives to being nature-protecting instead of nature-using. Hell, a native group started storing nuclear waste on their reserve as a giant FUCK YOU to the white environmentalists who kept using natives as this example of how we 'should' interact with nature.
There's a population out there that thinks shitting on everything, no matter how good, is cool.
Until someone that is cool tells them to shut the fuck up.
That isn't saying much. People still love watching submissive women find True Love (tm) with a perfect man who ends up doing everything for her to the point where she almost stops being a character. Besides, the problem with the noble savage isn't about reminding people how much better we could all be, it is the making of a mythical people who are better because they are "closer to nature" and have no real flaws except that they are so gosh darn noble. There are much better ways to remind people how much better we can be than creating fictional Mary Sues.
the Natives of today are most definitely not the Natives of yesterday. what were you trying to say again?
Also, I was wondering how those damn mountains were floating. Magnetism, according to that video.
No man. Once someone cool disagrees with the irrationally angry mob that is the Internet, they become extremely uncool, everything they say is ignored, and then they are retconned - they don't simply become "formerly cool." They become "was never cool, ever."
and Cameron made an excellent movie out of it
Not quite true. Yes, all the tech was created for this movie but some of has been used before - Cameron had Robert Rodriguez test out the camera in Spy Kids 3D, for example (and I imagine some things since then).
I remember when the fan-dumb was pissing and moaning about how much Dark Knight was going to suck until they were told "fuck off, it's a good movie".
Well, when Titanic came out, I was in Saudi Arabia, doing the Air Force thing and totally oblivious to all the hype it had generated. When I finally saw it, it was on its final run, and I think I saw Good Will Hunting right afterwards. I haven't seen it since, only because I imagine it doesn't have the same impact on the small screen. But I did really, really enjoy that movie.
And when I say 3D imagery, I mean static 3D images. My point is that the newness of 3D had been worn away awhile back.
Also, there was a Jaws 3D. I remember we only had one pair of the cardboard glasses so we had to pass them around, but I also remember not noticing anything particularly 3D about it. Good times.