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GRE and Me

SliderSlider Registered User regular
edited January 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
I'm scheduled to take the GRE on Wednesday and need to figure out the best way to study for this thing. Being that I'm absolutely terrible at Math, I need to devote more of my time to this particular subject; especially since it's been well over 10 years since I've taken a Math class.

Have any of you taken the GRE? What did you do to prepare for this test?

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    bone up on math up until trig. nothing really more advanced than that.
    then work on vocabulary

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  • MoSiAcMoSiAc Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I had some math teachers I worked with coach me over all the different parts cause I am terrible with math. The other hardest part were the questions that were:

    dog is to cat as mouse is to _____? and then a list of words I'd never heard of. (not a real question just a top of the head type example)

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  • SliderSlider Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    MoSiAc wrote: »
    I had some math teachers I worked with coach me over all the different parts cause I am terrible with math. The other hardest part were the questions that were:

    dog is to cat as mouse is to _____? and then a list of words I'd never heard of. (not a real question just a top of the head type example)

    Rat? So, anyway, when I took the WEST-B last year I sought the help of a high school student to be my Math tutor. Unfortunately, this particular student is now in college up at UW and currently unavailable.

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    The best way to study for the GRE is not wait until the week before to start :).

    The math portion isn't bad. Like MTS said, brush up on basic math up until trig, and familiarize yourself with the types of questions that will be on the vocab portion. Then study vocab. I made a ton of flash cards for vocabulary (several hundred) and studied those for a few months.

    I highly recommend heading to a bookstore and getting a study guide. It will help you with all of the above.

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  • nuclearalchemistnuclearalchemist Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I would go pick up one of the study books and try out a practice exam or two, just to get a feeling for where your weak areas are. Beyond that, just study up on those and memorize vocab.

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  • geckahngeckahn Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    for math lessons: http://www.khanacademy.org/

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I studied for 2 months, most of it with basic trig (the stuff you can do w/o a calculator, like 3/4/5 triangles, lots of sqrt 2 stuff, etc.) and vocab. Some of it is straight memorization, but typically of memorizing HOW to get somewhere, rather than straight-up rote memorization.

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  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Yeah, Wednesday is not a sufficient time to study.

    Grab a GRE book and just take tests over and over again.

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  • KillgrimageKillgrimage Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I really hope you have been studying before this or at least taken some relevent "vocab and math brushing up" classes. I studied straight from GRE tests for two months before I did the real thing and even then I only ended up with a 1200, which was just AT my limit for whether I would take it again or not.

    The flip side of this of course is that I reminded someone off hand ("yeah I'm taking the GRE next week") that they needed to do it and they only studied for 2 weeks and got a 1400. Guess it depends on how well you test?

    Good luck though, it's a slog.

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Vocab was the killer for me, but you'd probably benefit most from taking practice tests at this point. A couple of days isn't going to improve the depth of your knowledge so much, but practicing your test taking skills will definitely help.

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  • KlundtasaurKlundtasaur Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Usagi wrote: »
    you'd probably benefit most from taking practice tests at this point. A couple of days isn't going to improve the depth of your knowledge so much, but practicing your test taking skills will definitely help.

    This. The GRE is pretty intense--long, hard, tedious, and it's really difficult not to think about how much of your future is riding on the outcome. Since a lot of test taking is that sort of psychological stuff, reducing stress should be your current goal.

    The creators of the GRE have a free practice test program that is IDENTICAL to the test itself. I took the two included practice tests on that about 5 times, and it drastically decreased my anxiety and stress leading up to the test. (that, in addition to taking a full 3 month course in preparing for the test...)

    Studies on the GRE show it's a test that you actually can improve on by studying for (unlike IQ or some other achievement tests)--I'd postpone the test date (you should be able to reschedule through the test administrating company) to give you more time to study.

    Although, in the interest of full disclosure, I took the practice tests PRE-preparation class and then again AFTER the prep class and my scores were literally unchanged. Definitely could have paid more attention to the prep class' recommended studying schedule, though...

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  • DemerdarDemerdar Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Slider wrote: »
    I'm scheduled to take the GRE on Wednesday and need to figure out the best way to study for this thing. Being that I'm absolutely terrible at Math, I need to devote more of my time to this particular subject; especially since it's been well over 10 years since I've taken a Math class.

    Have any of you taken the GRE? What did you do to prepare for this test?

    Hoooly shit. You are taking it in less than a week and are just now starting to study for it?

    Just go to bookmans or some other used book store and pick up a GRE prep book. It's seriously the best way to study for one of these. Good luck on the vocabulary as well.

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  • SliderSlider Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I decided to apply to graduate school in December and application packages are due February 1. No, it doesn't leave me a lot of time to study, but I'm not too concerned. None of this seems to be directly related to my course of study.

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Slider wrote: »
    I decided to apply to graduate school in December and application packages are due February 1. No, it doesn't leave me a lot of time to study, but I'm not too concerned. None of this seems to be directly related to my course of study.

    No, but universities definitely look at your GRE closer if you've been out of school for a while. Start with the free practice test and then zero in on the areas you need the most work on. You'd be surprised how difficult it's going to be to finish all those multiple choice reasoning questions, so don't forget about your timing.

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  • SliderSlider Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Usagi wrote: »
    Slider wrote: »
    I decided to apply to graduate school in December and application packages are due February 1. No, it doesn't leave me a lot of time to study, but I'm not too concerned. None of this seems to be directly related to my course of study.

    No, but universities definitely look at your GRE closer if you've been out of school for a while. Start with the free practice test and then zero in on the areas you need the most work on. You'd be surprised how difficult it's going to be to finish all those multiple choice reasoning questions, so don't forget about your timing.

    Timing will certainly be a factor. Thanks for the reminder.

    I took a graduate course last year, so it hasn't been too long.

    I just went through some of the practice questions. Based on my results, I'm going to fail miserably.

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  • KlundtasaurKlundtasaur Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Slider wrote: »
    Based on my results, I'm going to fail miserably.

    Again, studying for the GRE can improve your score. Postponing it a week or two to get a better score is well worth it. Graduate schools rely on the official GRE scores for actual admissions--but since those often lag behind application deadlines, they'll likely look at your self reported/estimated scores (which you'll get as soon as you hit the "Finish" button on the test) with the same amount of weight for whether or not they'll interview you.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Slider wrote: »
    Usagi wrote: »
    Slider wrote: »
    I decided to apply to graduate school in December and application packages are due February 1. No, it doesn't leave me a lot of time to study, but I'm not too concerned. None of this seems to be directly related to my course of study.

    No, but universities definitely look at your GRE closer if you've been out of school for a while. Start with the free practice test and then zero in on the areas you need the most work on. You'd be surprised how difficult it's going to be to finish all those multiple choice reasoning questions, so don't forget about your timing.

    Timing will certainly be a factor. Thanks for the reminder.

    I took a graduate course last year, so it hasn't been too long.

    I just went through some of the practice questions. Based on my results, I'm going to fail miserably.

    Then you want to practice like crazy while you can. You don't want to half-ass it because it doesn't apply to your program (although with vocab, math, and writing ability I don't see how one of those CAN'T apply). A bad score can definitely keep you out even of all of your other stuff is good.

    On the bright side, I started studying two days before I took it. The first practice test I took I scored around 300. Total. But on test day I scored 1190. Not great, but not cringe-worthy either.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    geckahn wrote: »
    for math lessons: http://www.khanacademy.org/

    This is the best thing ever and I thank you profusely for linking it.

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  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Slider wrote: »
    I decided to apply to graduate school in December and application packages are due February 1. No, it doesn't leave me a lot of time to study, but I'm not too concerned. None of this seems to be directly related to my course of study.

    I'm in the same boat.

    Seriously, apply for next year. This shit is important.

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  • SliderSlider Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Slider wrote: »
    Based on my results, I'm going to fail miserably.

    Again, studying for the GRE can improve your score. Postponing it a week or two to get a better score is well worth it. Graduate schools rely on the official GRE scores for actual admissions--but since those often lag behind application deadlines, they'll likely look at your self reported/estimated scores (which you'll get as soon as you hit the "Finish" button on the test) with the same amount of weight for whether or not they'll interview you.

    There is a $50 fee for rescheduling.

    I'm hoping my history and past experiences get me accepted, because (I'm assuming) my GRE score won't be any help.

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  • SliderSlider Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Slider wrote: »
    I decided to apply to graduate school in December and application packages are due February 1. No, it doesn't leave me a lot of time to study, but I'm not too concerned. None of this seems to be directly related to my course of study.

    I'm in the same boat.

    Seriously, apply for next year. This shit is important.

    I was supposed to go last year and would prefer not to delay another year. I'm not getting any younger...

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    honestly the gre is a glorified SAT

    a week is probably fine if you put in the effort. go pick up a GRE book, read up on the basics of math , nothing harder than trig remember. than alternate between that and flash cards of vocabulary. during this week take some practice test to get a handle on the type of questions.

    yes its a big deal but its not rocket science

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  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Slider wrote: »
    Slider wrote: »
    I decided to apply to graduate school in December and application packages are due February 1. No, it doesn't leave me a lot of time to study, but I'm not too concerned. None of this seems to be directly related to my course of study.

    I'm in the same boat.

    Seriously, apply for next year. This shit is important.

    I was supposed to go last year and would prefer not to delay another year. I'm not getting any younger...

    I understand, and as someone who fucked up his apps again this year, I'm waiting.

    I have a good friend who "rushed it" like this. He is now attending a poor school (for his subject) and will be many more mountainloads in debt than he needs to be.

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  • SliderSlider Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Slider wrote: »
    Slider wrote: »
    I decided to apply to graduate school in December and application packages are due February 1. No, it doesn't leave me a lot of time to study, but I'm not too concerned. None of this seems to be directly related to my course of study.

    I'm in the same boat.

    Seriously, apply for next year. This shit is important.

    I was supposed to go last year and would prefer not to delay another year. I'm not getting any younger...

    I understand, and as someone who fucked up his apps again this year, I'm waiting.

    I have a good friend who "rushed it" like this. He is now attending a poor school (for his subject) and will be many more mountainloads in debt than he needs to be.


    I changed my program. Instead of teaching, I'll be studying counseling. I decided to attend Eastern, because apparently they have a decent Counseling program.

    Some of those Math questions are ridiculous. I'm betting that this will, yet again, be the first and last time I'm required to perform Math of this magnitude.

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  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Slider wrote: »
    Slider wrote: »
    Slider wrote: »
    I decided to apply to graduate school in December and application packages are due February 1. No, it doesn't leave me a lot of time to study, but I'm not too concerned. None of this seems to be directly related to my course of study.

    I'm in the same boat.

    Seriously, apply for next year. This shit is important.

    I was supposed to go last year and would prefer not to delay another year. I'm not getting any younger...

    I understand, and as someone who fucked up his apps again this year, I'm waiting.

    I have a good friend who "rushed it" like this. He is now attending a poor school (for his subject) and will be many more mountainloads in debt than he needs to be.


    I changed my program. Instead of teaching, I'll be studying counseling. I decided to attend Eastern, because apparently they have a decent Counseling program.

    Some of those Math questions are ridiculous. I'm betting that this will, yet again, be the first and last time I'm required to perform Math of this magnitude.

    A more helpful comment is probably to just point out that you shouldn't go for the sake of going" and if you're faced with less options or poor financial decisions, waiting a year is always the safe route.

    But good luck!

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Slider wrote: »
    Slider wrote: »
    Based on my results, I'm going to fail miserably.

    Again, studying for the GRE can improve your score. Postponing it a week or two to get a better score is well worth it. Graduate schools rely on the official GRE scores for actual admissions--but since those often lag behind application deadlines, they'll likely look at your self reported/estimated scores (which you'll get as soon as you hit the "Finish" button on the test) with the same amount of weight for whether or not they'll interview you.

    There is a $50 fee for rescheduling.

    I'm hoping my history and past experiences get me accepted, because (I'm assuming) my GRE score won't be any help.

    Do you apply directly to your program, or do you apply to a graduate college that then funnels your app to your program for consideration?

    If it's the latter you should consider rescheduling, because if your GRE doesn't meet a certain threshold your graduate program might never see your application at all.

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  • SliderSlider Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Sentry wrote: »
    Slider wrote: »
    Slider wrote: »
    Based on my results, I'm going to fail miserably.

    Again, studying for the GRE can improve your score. Postponing it a week or two to get a better score is well worth it. Graduate schools rely on the official GRE scores for actual admissions--but since those often lag behind application deadlines, they'll likely look at your self reported/estimated scores (which you'll get as soon as you hit the "Finish" button on the test) with the same amount of weight for whether or not they'll interview you.

    There is a $50 fee for rescheduling.

    I'm hoping my history and past experiences get me accepted, because (I'm assuming) my GRE score won't be any help.

    Do you apply directly to your program, or do you apply to a graduate college that then funnels your app to your program for consideration?

    If it's the latter you should consider rescheduling, because if your GRE doesn't meet a certain threshold your graduate program might never see your application at all.


    Two separate applications.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Slider wrote: »
    Sentry wrote: »
    Slider wrote: »
    Slider wrote: »
    Based on my results, I'm going to fail miserably.

    Again, studying for the GRE can improve your score. Postponing it a week or two to get a better score is well worth it. Graduate schools rely on the official GRE scores for actual admissions--but since those often lag behind application deadlines, they'll likely look at your self reported/estimated scores (which you'll get as soon as you hit the "Finish" button on the test) with the same amount of weight for whether or not they'll interview you.

    There is a $50 fee for rescheduling.

    I'm hoping my history and past experiences get me accepted, because (I'm assuming) my GRE score won't be any help.

    Do you apply directly to your program, or do you apply to a graduate college that then funnels your app to your program for consideration?

    If it's the latter you should consider rescheduling, because if your GRE doesn't meet a certain threshold your graduate program might never see your application at all.


    Two separate applications.

    Okay, then definitely take it seriously. What that says to me is that while your program of study will focus on prior experience and writing sample, the other app will focus on your GPA and GRE scores. You'll likely have to pass both before being admitted.

    But again, a few days can make a huge difference if you use them wisely.

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  • ElinElin Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I'd like to ask a related question, from what I heard there are different GRE's? I ask because I plan on getting a masters, but my program doesn't even require Trig, so taking a test with Trig questions to get my masters would suck.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Elin wrote: »
    I'd like to ask a related question, from what I heard there are different GRE's? I ask because I plan on getting a masters, but my program doesn't even require Trig, so taking a test with Trig questions to get my masters would suck.

    GRE is the general, and what most social sciences require. There's also the GMAT, which (I think) a lot of the real sciences require, I know a lot of MBA programs do.

    I think there's a few more... I mean, you could also lump the MCAT and the LSAT in there as well, for Med school and law school respectively.

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  • OrogogusOrogogus San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    There's a general GRE, which is the glorified SAT, and there are subject GREs for biology, cell bio, biochemistry, psychology, etc., which are rather more in depth (although still multiple choice; EDIT: Well, the biology ones are. I assume literature and maybe some of the others aren't). The math section of the general test goes up to algebra and basic trig, while the math subject test evaluates calculus, statistics, number theory and so on.

    I took a look at the wiki page, and I guess the logic question section that was part of the GRE when I took it 10 years ago has been replaced with a writing section.

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  • KhaczorKhaczor Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Having only a week to study sucks but I highly recommend the Princeton review's GRE guide. It got me a great score both on the SAT and GRE. Worth the money though you really should have given yourself about a month to slowly build up preparation.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    no one really wants subject GREs for admission. 9/10 times the first two things an admission committee will look at are your general GRE score and your GPAs (major and overall). if you have a lowish GPA, an excellent GRE can help and vice versa though not as much

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  • metaghostmetaghost An intriguing odor A delicate touchRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Masters in Edu. Subject programs usually (if not always) require the relevant GRE in that subject.

    For instance, looking at schools in Massachusetts to pursue my Masters in Education - English, most require the GRE, the GRE:Literature in English, as well as MTEL. Some allow substituting the Miller Analogies Test for the general GRE.

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  • PlushyCthulhuPlushyCthulhu Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Sentry wrote: »
    Elin wrote: »
    I'd like to ask a related question, from what I heard there are different GRE's? I ask because I plan on getting a masters, but my program doesn't even require Trig, so taking a test with Trig questions to get my masters would suck.

    GRE is the general, and what most social sciences require. There's also the GMAT, which (I think) a lot of the real sciences require, I know a lot of MBA programs do.

    I think there's a few more... I mean, you could also lump the MCAT and the LSAT in there as well, for Med school and law school respectively.

    GRE is the general test (think SAT 2) and pretty much every non-specialized program wants it, whether they are social or hard science. GMAT is MBA specific, don't worry about it unless you're aiming at an MBA. There are also GRE subject tests in specific areas, but again unless you're subject specifically requests it (ie Math for Math) you won't need them - and if you do they almost always want the general score as well.

    Yeah, brushing up on trig is kinda annoying after not doing it for 10 years, but the GRE math tends to be more logic intensive than formula memorization. As always, practice makes perfect and the questions will be much less intimidating when you are comfortable with their style.

    For reference, I took both the GRE general and GMAT last year. I used the Barron's GRE book and it was pretty decent for coverage of problem types and practice tests, though make sure you use the free resources from ETS as well. I used McGraw-Hill's GMAT book and it sucked balls - typos and mistakes in the book and incorrect answers in the practice tests, I definitely recommend using another resource.

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  • spazmojackspazmojack Hangin on the corner of 52nd and BroadwayRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    i had to take my GRE on very short notice (like 3 days notice). i checked out one of the kaplan GRE study guides from the campus library, thumbed through it for about about 3 hours the night before, got a good nights sleep, ate a good breakfast and went in to take the test. i think the most importan thing is to not stress about it if possible, easier said than done i know. but i ended up doing well enought on it to be accepted into grad school; while it's not the ideal situation, the biggest thing i took out of it was there's a lot to be said for being well rested, fed, and confident going into a test like that.

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  • SliderSlider Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I've been out of school since 2003. I was accepted into a graduate program last year and took a prerequisite course, but decided to switch programs and schools before I got too heavily committed. Tomorrow, I'm going to inquire about taking the MAT rather than the GRE.

    My GPA is terrible and I'm assuming my GRE score will be, too. My only hope is that I haven't used up all of my luck and the school will give me a chance.

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  • LykouraghLykouragh Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I too, recently took this test. I studied medium hard for a month, using some test prep book and ETS's free software. My final score was exactly identical to my first practice test score.

    That said, I think taking a couple weeks to study first is probably worth it- there are certain types of questions where it will help you to relax if you know what to expect.

    (Also, the physics GRE is frikking hard.)

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  • HypatiaHypatia Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    If you're rusty on the math section and that's the part you're worried about I highly recommend getting one of the GRE books, Barron's is a good example. Take 1 practice test and go over the questions that you got wrong. Figure out: Are they mostly word problems? Triangles? Circles? Volume? etc.

    In the Barron's book there is a section titled "Math Review" that will go over the things you need to know. Dig out the sections that are specific to the things you didn't get right, read it, then do the practice questions at the end of it. This is really good because it means instead of taking a ton of practice tests and screwing up the same questions over and over again you'll be able to really focus and get some intense practice on the ones you're messing up immediately after reviewing how to answer them.

    From there you can find more practice questions in the tests they give you or online, again focus on the parts that you aren't as good at.

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  • Kewop DecamKewop Decam Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    They have been saying they were going to change GRE since 2007. They were suppose to change it in 2007 and for whatever reason they never changed it in 2007. I took the test in 2007 and I'm trying to research online to see if they ever changed it after I took it and I can't find it. Basically everything after this sentence is assuming they haven't changed it since I took it back in 2007.



    The GRE is a pretty easy test that is pretty much the old school SAT except with a different scoring system and the set of questions with the "A is bigger than B" "B is bigger than A" "the same size" "none of these" batch of questions in Math. In the GRE, you're taking it on a computer and depending if you get a question right or wrong, the next one will be harder or easier. This is where you can really get yourself fucked. If you get a bunch wrong in a row, you've basically just ruined your score and you can sometimes tell if you are getting the harder questions. So basically I think your score starts at like 400 and builds/declines from the first question to the last. This is both for vocab sections and math.

    I studied for the GRE for about a month I think. I went overkill on it because I could. I don't remember what I got in vocab, but in math I got a 780/800. The math is very VERY basic math. There is no Trig, only Algebra and basic Geometry. The only "hard" math questions are the ones with the graphs because you need to fully understand what info the graph is giving you and what it isn't. Like I said, I can't remember what I got in reading but it was like 620 (damn vocab, so dumb).

    Basically... the GRE is the SAT. If you told a highschool kid who scored high on the SAT to take the GRE the next day he/she would probably get the same score (excluding essays) which is why I think the test is really stupid. The essays are also stupid easy and have a basic formula setup where you could just plug in words if you wanted. The essays give you like an argument and you have to take a side. There is only ONE side you can correctly take for the most part. I actually scored higher in my GRE then my SATs (this is pre big SAT changes that happened in like 04 or 05).

    don't sweat it. Get a Kaplan book or a Princeton review book. Do the whole book and have the test scheduled like a day or two after. Do some warm ups before taking the test and you'll be fine.

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