The problem is, here on campus atleast, I don't even get the chance to ask them out; I talk to them, realize "I'd like to date this person" and then they mention their boyfriend.
Literally, there has not been a girl down here I've wanted to date who wasn't already taken or a lesbian. But, i've found these things out before I ever asked them out so... i never got the hide built up.
I never date women at my school; all the girls I pick up are at bookstores, the TTC, coffee shops, whatever. I don't have that luxury since my school's microscopic compared to a regular college, but it's actually paid off in spades because when I get out of college, nothing will change in my dating life.
As for the boyfriend thing; I can honestly say that this is not a factor. Unless there's a ring on her finger, it's fair game.
I know exactly how to do the girlfriend steal, but it is the most dangerous move in my arsenal and is more of a question of morality. If I have interest in a woman who has a boyfriend that I meet in person who is a straight-up cunt festival, it's no problem to make the steal.
If the guy is an honest-to-God, great all-around person who is simply a better, more well-rounded character than myself, then I will back right the fuck off; he got there first, its his territory.
I've only taught one person in my life how to do the girlfriend steal method. That's some advanced technique, and it doesn't involve stabbing her current boyfriend in the back (which is the tricky part); you simply outplay the dude.
But to be honest i'm probably not gonna tell anyone here how to do that, because it can be a real bastard move if it gets into the wrong hands.
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Godfather, it sounds like you are a pick up artist.
You're not a pick up artist, are you
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Well, I don't have a car... and Cape is a dead place unless you go clubbing or to a Frat neither of which I enjoy.
I'd rather not steal a girl persay, but if I out play the guy just by being myself that's totally different. I wouldn't go out of my way to do that because, in theory, if she's dating him, he should be a pretty decent guy who doesn't deserve to be intentionally screwed around.
Godfather, it sounds like you are a pick up artist.
You're not a pick up artist, are you
Well, i'm average looking at best, probably around your weight division, am the biggest One Piece fan ever and draw cartoon characters for a living.
Does this sound like a pick up artist to you?
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Be warned that if you have never heard of a pick up artist or the 'seduction community' prepare to vomit in your mouth.
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Well, I don't have a car... and Cape is a dead place unless you go clubbing or to a Frat neither of which I enjoy.
I'd rather not steal a girl persay, but if I out play the guy just by being myself that's totally different. I wouldn't go out of my way to do that because, in theory, if she's dating him, he should be a pretty decent guy who doesn't deserve to be intentionally screwed around.
Oh you can do it, but you need to date a lot before you're able to pull those kind of shenanigans.
You need to play to your strengths. I'm not going to give you worthless advice like "just be yourself" or "just relax bro", cause that's just as bad as no advice at all.
No, I don't do that internet shit. Fuck, I can barely keep up with you guys.
Those people have some of the worst misconceptions i've ever seen. Also I don't date women just to sleep with them; that's just pathetic.
The best free advice I can give you is to get your fulfillment elsewhere outside of women. Whatever you do in life, do it for you, and not just to pick up chicks. For example, I play guitar, but only Flamenco guitar, which involves growing your nails long; big turn off for the ladies.
I'd like to help you further Napp, because you seem like a generally good guy who just wants a decent shot; and given your circumstances it'd be a real easy fix, but I got a jam-packed schedule this week.
Shoot me a PM if you're interested and maybe we can work up a video chat or whatever during the weekend whenever I get an opening.
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Well, I really should be so ... whatever I am. There is one girl who I know is single who I'd like to date. I just haven't seen her yet this year and I'd rather not ask her out over facebook.
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And don't take any shirtless pictures of yourself. Trust me on this one. Just don't. Just. Don't.
Pfft, just makes me want to make a dating profile consisting of nothing but shirtless pictures.
If that doesn't say "confidence" to the ladies, well...
I don't suppose they'd allow an all pantsless pictures profile stay up for long, would they?
Angel, if you did that you would be like 90% of the male dating profiles out there.
Seriously.
It's shirtless dudes all the way down.
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Well, I really should be so ... whatever I am. There is one girl who I know is single who I'd like to date. I just haven't seen her yet this year and I'd rather not ask her out over facebook.
So I shouldn't be so... whatever I am just yet.
You can ask her to do something platonically, you know.
Unless you are some ladder theory advocate.
...
I hate the internet for informing me of all these things.
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Ladder what?
No, never mind.
Really all i'm going to do is something like "would you like to catch dinner some time? I'd like to get to know you better"
Or something... maybe a little less creepy.
edit: "would you like to do something some time? It doesn't have to be anything major, just to hang out and get to know each other a little better?" how's that?
Angel, if you did that you would be like 90% of the male dating profiles out there.
Seriously.
It's shirtless dudes all the way down.
Why, you'd think I'd spent almost no time at all looking at male dating profiles before I made that comment!
Also man it weirds me out when people refer to me as "Angel" rather than "Bacon", it makes me feel like I've picked a douchey name rather than a mildly amusing one.
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I'm sorry Mister Bacon.
It wont' happen again, Duke of Baconshire
I will be sure to consult Baron Bacon before I make such a mistake again.
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I could never stay mad at you, Grand Consult to the Bacon Duchy
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I feel bad for needing comments/critiques but ""would you like to do something some time? It doesn't have to be anything major, just to hang out and get to know each other a little better?" how's that?"
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How about:
"You want to grab some lunch next thursday?"
How does that sound.
EDIT: Because honestly, "Would you like to do something some time?" is ridiculously indecisive, especially since her only responses are "No" and "Yeah, like what?"
Also the whole thing about "Doesn't have to be anything major" you are straight up saying that it is something major! If it's not anything major then why would you have to qualify it
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Great except the day will have to be changed- I have class from 11 to 2 on thurs
But seriously... I guess a more straight forward approach would be better. I tend to over think things...
Any time anyone says they want to "get to know [me] better" almost ALWAYS automatically comes off as totally cliche, if not fairly creepy. Just ask her to go out and do a fun thing! Or suggest some fun things to do. If you have to tell her something, tell her she's fun to hang out with. These are pretty nonthreatening things, but still show some interest.
Just rent a horse, gallop up to her and say, "YOU THERE! Do you want to spend the rest of your day plodding through your BULLSHIT LIFE, or do you want to ride on the back of my FUCKING AWESOME HORSE?!"
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Just don't treat it like a date. She's your friend and you are hanging out.
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Thanks Lexxy... I guess I never really thought about weither that was cliche or not, though I did kinda think it could be creepy if I said it the wrong way- it's probably best to not take that risk at all lol. But "fun to hang out with" does seem much nicer and, in all honesty, completely true.
edit: Munk: at this point, I'm not sure I'd know what to do if it were a date. I've pretty much got "hang out/ nice guy mode" and ... that's it.
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Just rent a horse, gallop up to her and say, "YOU THERE! Do you want to spend the rest of your day plodding through your BULLSHIT LIFE, or do you want to ride on the back of my FUCKING AWESOME HORSE?!"
Look at my horse, my horse is amazing.
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Fuck.
I'd need a horse for that.... would a scooter work instead?
Really all i'm going to do is something like "would you like to catch dinner some time? I'd like to get to know you better"
Or something... maybe a little less creepy.
edit: "would you like to do something some time? It doesn't have to be anything major, just to hang out and get to know each other a little better?" how's that?
Is this the girl with the boyfriend, or just any girl in general?
Don't do dinner; ask her out for coffee; it's quick, takes place in a casual, non-threatening environment and if things do go sour the worst you'll be short is a few bucks. If things go well and it seems like there's a connection, then sure, go for dinner on the second date or whatever. Movie dates should be reserved for the third date or further, because there's already been a connection established. If you don't know her very well and you pull this on date one it's going to do nothing to get the both of you to know one another.
Also you can measure if she's the type of girl you'd want to pursue or not. Sometimes you'll run across the occasional crazy that's just not worth the effort to throw an entire evening over.
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I never date women at my school; all the girls I pick up are at bookstores, the TTC, coffee shops, whatever. I don't have that luxury since my school's microscopic compared to a regular college, but it's actually paid off in spades because when I get out of college, nothing will change in my dating life.
As for the boyfriend thing; I can honestly say that this is not a factor. Unless there's a ring on her finger, it's fair game.
I know exactly how to do the girlfriend steal, but it is the most dangerous move in my arsenal and is more of a question of morality. If I have interest in a woman who has a boyfriend that I meet in person who is a straight-up cunt festival, it's no problem to make the steal.
If the guy is an honest-to-God, great all-around person who is simply a better, more well-rounded character than myself, then I will back right the fuck off; he got there first, its his territory.
I've only taught one person in my life how to do the girlfriend steal method. That's some advanced technique, and it doesn't involve stabbing her current boyfriend in the back (which is the tricky part); you simply outplay the dude.
But to be honest i'm probably not gonna tell anyone here how to do that, because it can be a real bastard move if it gets into the wrong hands.
You're not a pick up artist, are you
The problem is Nap, you need to objectify women more, obviously.
I'd rather not steal a girl persay, but if I out play the guy just by being myself that's totally different. I wouldn't go out of my way to do that because, in theory, if she's dating him, he should be a pretty decent guy who doesn't deserve to be intentionally screwed around.
Well, i'm average looking at best, probably around your weight division, am the biggest One Piece fan ever and draw cartoon characters for a living.
Does this sound like a pick up artist to you?
Yes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seduction_community
Oh you can do it, but you need to date a lot before you're able to pull those kind of shenanigans.
You need to play to your strengths. I'm not going to give you worthless advice like "just be yourself" or "just relax bro", cause that's just as bad as no advice at all.
You'll definitely get hi-fives.
No, I don't do that internet shit. Fuck, I can barely keep up with you guys.
Those people have some of the worst misconceptions i've ever seen. Also I don't date women just to sleep with them; that's just pathetic.
The best free advice I can give you is to get your fulfillment elsewhere outside of women. Whatever you do in life, do it for you, and not just to pick up chicks. For example, I play guitar, but only Flamenco guitar, which involves growing your nails long; big turn off for the ladies.
I'd like to help you further Napp, because you seem like a generally good guy who just wants a decent shot; and given your circumstances it'd be a real easy fix, but I got a jam-packed schedule this week.
Shoot me a PM if you're interested and maybe we can work up a video chat or whatever during the weekend whenever I get an opening.
Pfft, just makes me want to make a dating profile consisting of nothing but shirtless pictures.
If that doesn't say "confidence" to the ladies, well...
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So I shouldn't be so... whatever I am just yet.
Angel, if you did that you would be like 90% of the male dating profiles out there.
Seriously.
It's shirtless dudes all the way down.
You can ask her to do something platonically, you know.
Unless you are some ladder theory advocate.
...
I hate the internet for informing me of all these things.
Heh, cute.
No, never mind.
Really all i'm going to do is something like "would you like to catch dinner some time? I'd like to get to know you better"
Or something... maybe a little less creepy.
edit: "would you like to do something some time? It doesn't have to be anything major, just to hang out and get to know each other a little better?" how's that?
Why, you'd think I'd spent almost no time at all looking at male dating profiles before I made that comment!
Also man it weirds me out when people refer to me as "Angel" rather than "Bacon", it makes me feel like I've picked a douchey name rather than a mildly amusing one.
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It wont' happen again, Duke of Baconshire
I will be sure to consult Baron Bacon before I make such a mistake again.
Just sayin' I identify more with fatty pork strips than mystical beings and shit, you know.
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I should get you to write my resume.
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Yes, no? Too average?
"You want to grab some lunch next thursday?"
How does that sound.
EDIT: Because honestly, "Would you like to do something some time?" is ridiculously indecisive, especially since her only responses are "No" and "Yeah, like what?"
Also the whole thing about "Doesn't have to be anything major" you are straight up saying that it is something major! If it's not anything major then why would you have to qualify it
But seriously... I guess a more straight forward approach would be better. I tend to over think things...
Any time anyone says they want to "get to know [me] better" almost ALWAYS automatically comes off as totally cliche, if not fairly creepy. Just ask her to go out and do a fun thing! Or suggest some fun things to do. If you have to tell her something, tell her she's fun to hang out with. These are pretty nonthreatening things, but still show some interest.
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edit: Munk: at this point, I'm not sure I'd know what to do if it were a date. I've pretty much got "hang out/ nice guy mode" and ... that's it.
Look at my horse, my horse is amazing.
I'd need a horse for that.... would a scooter work instead?
"Hey, you wanna hang out...ON MY HORSE?!"
EDIT: Confusing out of context TOTP
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You have convinced me anyway.
Is this the girl with the boyfriend, or just any girl in general?
Don't do dinner; ask her out for coffee; it's quick, takes place in a casual, non-threatening environment and if things do go sour the worst you'll be short is a few bucks. If things go well and it seems like there's a connection, then sure, go for dinner on the second date or whatever. Movie dates should be reserved for the third date or further, because there's already been a connection established. If you don't know her very well and you pull this on date one it's going to do nothing to get the both of you to know one another.
Also you can measure if she's the type of girl you'd want to pursue or not. Sometimes you'll run across the occasional crazy that's just not worth the effort to throw an entire evening over.
Just be sure to wear decent normal clothes and don't follow up by saying things like, "RIDE, SHADOWFAX, RIDE!"
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I don't have a car... so... that restricts me quite a bit