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Symbolism, Subtlety, and Sex

ClerilCleril __BANNED USERS regular
edited January 2010 in Debate and/or Discourse
I recently wrote another little "article" you could say about gaming. It's called "Morally Gray and Me" if you would like to read that as well.

I find too many games have stories which don't follow the common rules for enticing the reader, or in this case, gamer. Such games would be Resident Evil, or GTA. Both series often try to startle the gamer instead of scare and in GTA's case it is more focused on plainly showing sexual content rather than suggesting it. I don't know about you (I soon will) but I find this to be dull.

I like this to not only be verbally spoken in video games but to be suggested or hinted at visually. Silent Hill games do this fantastically. At least, all of them except Homecoming did. Silent Hill focused on hinting that the player would have some sick monster to fight, rather than actually giving the player said monster to fight. This scared me. To think that I was in constant danger with such sporadic sounds and sights that I never knew what was around the corner, that is what scares me. Jumping when a zombie bursts out in flames from a locker startles me. A few minutes later, I find myself calm again.

There are one specific scare in Silent Hill 3 which did scare me a good 20 minutes after I turned off the game. The mirror room in the Hospital Nightmare, to not spoil anything. That part of the game scared me. It did so with it's slow pacing rather than just having things jump around. Slowly the room I was in began to change before my eyes and I was powerless to stop it. I cannot shoot a floor or ceiling and be rid of it now can I? Unless I had a BFG.

Even Dragon Age: Origins had subtlety in it, sexual subtlety. The game never showed my character having relations exactly and even certain sexual events in the game not involving me were more subtle. Such as when I found a guard standing in front of a woman who was on her knees and....you get the point.

My point in all this is that I think games need to stop showing me everything about the story or even sexual content and instead hint at it. This goes for all games in general, not just God of War, whose sex mini-game is very well done in terms of subtlety, but even games like Resident Evil or Dead Space with it's lack luster scares need to show a bit less and make me think a bit more.

Books do it, movies do it (sometimes...), poetry does it (and I am a Poet), and video games should do it.

What do you think then? Should games offer a bit more subtlety with any themes or goals they want to achieve? Or should they just blurt it out in some dialogue or letter.

Cleril is indie developer for now and his game is very symbolic and subtle. Should you be interested in playing in it message him. Since he can never have enough (helpful) players....but now, let's not get off-topic with Cleril. Let's talk about what Cleril talked about. It's much more interesting to you, I'm sure.

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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited January 2010
    The question you're presenting is incredibly loaded- when you use language like "or should they just blurt it out", you're suggesting that explicit expression is poor expression. Foreshadowing and symbolism can be employed to a gratifying end, but it's not the only way to compose an entertaining piece of media.

    Though this has me thinking about subtle porn...

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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I don't really think a woman sitting on her knees in front of a guard or a QTE sex mini-game with screaming, naked women are particularly subtle...

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    ClerilCleril __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2010
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    I don't really think a woman sitting on her knees in front of a guard or a QTE sex mini-game with screaming, naked women are particularly subtle...

    Well, you don't see the sex....maybe she was tying his boot? Maybe Kratos sounds like a girl when he gets a massage?

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    Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/user/MovodaMusicCentral

    Review: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/326.164259

    Want to play it? Please message me. :winky:
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    Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    At the same time, there are a number of games that understate wonderfully and communicate vast experiences in simple, subtle ways. I still think the original Half-Life is the king of this, but there are a lot of other examples.

    As with any media the tendency is to go for the easy, shocking payoff in a tense moment. Only the best works avoid this consistently.

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    TalleyrandTalleyrand Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I was never really scared by the F.E.A.R. games because the moment I realized that Ada or whatever her name is usually didn't hurt you then what was there to be nervous about. My personal tastes have always been towards the more atmospheric and implied horrors. Like Bioshock wasn't very frightening either despite being extremely atmospheric which I believe is because I could shoot lightening out of my hands and could generally kill whatever monster attacked me.

    It has a lot to do with game play though. Action games don't really lend themselves well to something requiring a slow and subtle build up of tension and anxiety. And GTA is probably bad example considering you could go around shooting down police helicopters with rocket launchers if you wanted so why would the sex be anything but brazenly over-the-top?

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