Who listens to their iPod through their work day? I know quite a few who do.
Now, take the 5 and divide it down to 2 1/2... and thats only if you aren;t using coverflow, or looking at album art or any of that other stuff. Lets say you talk on the phone for an hour that day. 1 1/2. Lets say you do your email for 20-30 minutes total that day. 1 hour. Lets drop another 30 minutes or so during my lunch break where I am browsing the forums, and checking up on the news. I have 30 minutes of battery life to spare.
This is a common day for me. It's not a lot of wiggle room.
But why did you divide 5 hours to 2 1/2?
Because arbitrarily fucking with the number helps his "point"
5 hours, I could probably just about handle. But then again, my first mini ran it's batter down from 18 hours to just over 10 in a year.
woah..it doesnt have a user replaceable battery? i never even considered that for a phone..if so..fuck you apple
I'm not saying the iPhone is going to be a problem while driving. I'm saying the people who argue that's it's OK because, hey, I'm only going to be looking at it for two seconds and I take my eyes off the road for two seconds all the time scare me.
For me it's soccer moms. Those minivans are scary vehicles. How one can manipulate lipstick, cellphone (iPhone?!), coffee, taser for the kids, radio and hair adjustment while piloting one - well, I'll never know.
Who listens to their iPod through their work day? I know quite a few who do.
Now, take the 5 and divide it down to 2 1/2... and thats only if you aren;t using coverflow, or looking at album art or any of that other stuff. Lets say you talk on the phone for an hour that day. 1 1/2. Lets say you do your email for 20-30 minutes total that day. 1 hour. Lets drop another 30 minutes or so during my lunch break where I am browsing the forums, and checking up on the news. I have 30 minutes of battery life to spare.
This is a common day for me. It's not a lot of wiggle room.
But why did you divide 5 hours to 2 1/2?
Because arbitrarily fucking with the number helps his "point"
5 hours, I could probably just about handle. But then again, my first mini ran it's batter down from 18 hours to just over 10 in a year.
woah..it doesnt have a user replaceable battery? i never even considered that for a phone..if so..fuck you apple
You listen to 8 hours of music/podcasts/audiobooks a day eh? That's starting to explain the disparity between your social/conversational skills and, say, the rest of us.
Dude, shut the fuck up
Feel free to take this to a PM anytime darling. I did.
You listen to 8 hours of music/podcasts/audiobooks a day eh? That's starting to explain the disparity between your social/conversational skills and, say, the rest of us.
Dude, shut the fuck up
Feel free to take this to a PM anytime darling. I did.
Only after you posted some meaningless retarded insult. You and syndalis were both making this thread fucking annoying to read, and then you crossed the line, so shut the fuck up darling.
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edited January 2007
I think it looks like it will be a great product in two years.
First thing is the battery, I sometimes don't make it home for two or three days straight, I would like it to last so I can do that and dick around a bit.
Secondly is the storage, it's obviously limited by flash and as such is a bit small, 20 gig would be a sweet spot for me for music, a little bit of video and enough wiggle room for file transfer.
I have to get the iPhone...I don't know why but this just hits me as the phone I have always wanted and it looks sexy as hell. And the 8GB memory strikes me as being a good amount to be able to put content on I can watch at work...I wouldn't mind charging it at work either since I sit in a cubicle anyway. Even if there are PDA's or other touchscreens out there, I just prefer the looks and features in this one...
You listen to 8 hours of music/podcasts/audiobooks a day eh? That's starting to explain the disparity between your social/conversational skills and, say, the rest of us.
Dude, shut the fuck up
threepio has never heard of workplaces with music playing in the background, obviously.
You listen to 8 hours of music/podcasts/audiobooks a day eh? That's starting to explain the disparity between your social/conversational skills and, say, the rest of us.
Dude, shut the fuck up
Feel free to take this to a PM anytime darling. I did.
Only after you posted some meaningless retarded insult. You and syndalis were both making this thread fucking annoying to read, and then you crossed the line, so shut the fuck up darling.
Pity. Don't like it? Don't fucking read it, I'm not holding a gun to your head, sweetie. Frankly your little addition is more suited to a PM cause we shouldn't argue in front of the kids. Oh, and you're a dick.
Back on topic - like way back - to the Apple TV.
Personally, I'm pleased with the fact that the damn thing doesn't have a power brick. I have no idea where I'm going to put this in my home theatre, but I get the feeling I'd like to show it off.
Ok, so the battery life - what is it 5 hours for full bore PDA, talking on the phone, etc., 15 hours for listening to music? I'm going to assume it's a lot longer for standby, probably like 30 hours, or so?
When I read this discussion, I'm reminded of the PSP vs. DS discussion. PSP has what, about 5 hours battery life? DS has like 12ish? I'm gonna be honest, 5 hours seems pretty short to me, especially for the hefty premium you're paying to have it all in one device with an un-replaceable battery.
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The interface looks pretty slick, like a device of the future, and I'd consider one if it were half the price and supported 3G like the Blackjack.
I look forward to seeing what they do after they iron out the kinks and it comes down in price.
You listen to 8 hours of music/podcasts/audiobooks a day eh? That's starting to explain the disparity between your social/conversational skills and, say, the rest of us.
Dude, shut the fuck up
Feel free to take this to a PM anytime darling. I did.
Only after you posted some meaningless retarded insult. You and syndalis were both making this thread fucking annoying to read, and then you crossed the line, so shut the fuck up darling.
Pity. Don't like it? Don't fucking read it, I'm not holding a gun to your head, sweetie. Frankly your little addition is more suited to a PM cause we shouldn't argue in front of the kids. Oh, and you're a dick.
So your comment about syndalis not having a life is topic-worthy? Try harder you retarded little sweetums.
As a note for the above - we don't know that the battery is not replaceable yet. The device has smooth lines, but that doesn't preclude the possibility of a replaceable power source.
A lot can happen in six months. Fingers crossed we could see an increase in overall battery life. That being said - my Macbook is supposed to get 3 1/2 hours of juice. I routinely wring 5 hours out of it. The old adage is underpromise, overdeliver.
Personally, I'm pleased with the fact that the damn thing doesn't have a power brick. I have no idea where I'm going to put this in my home theatre, but I get the feeling I'd like to show it off.
So is the main draw of this thing the HDMI? Because I'm having a hard time desciphering why I should care more about the appletv than the Mvix still... I don't have HDMI inputs on my HDTV so that's pretty much moot. But I do a lot of purchasing through itunes. Does the the Mvix not support mpegs downloaded from itunes or something?
Just wondering what the major plus that makes it stand out is.
Personally, I'm pleased with the fact that the damn thing doesn't have a power brick. I have no idea where I'm going to put this in my home theatre, but I get the feeling I'd like to show it off.
So is the main draw of this thing the HDMI? Because I'm having a hard time desciphering why I should care more about the appletv than the Mvix still... I don't have HDMI inputs on my HDTV so that's pretty much moot. But I do a lot of purchasing through itunes. Does the the Mvix not support mpegs downloaded from itunes or something?
Just wondering what the major plus that makes it stand out is.
The HDMI provides a digital throughput - slightly higher quality than component (most people can't tell). It is simple though as it carries uncompressed audio (if available) and video on the same stream/cable.
Maybe we shouldn't say better than the Mvix as much as a better choice for some. It uses the Apple remote - simplicity in itself (which some folks hate for that reason). It streams purchased stuff from iTunes (which I don't believe you can currently do with the Mvix) and it's elegant and wee.
It does appear that it will support USB storage and it's got all the right ports in all the right places. For the price, I like it. So in short, for me, it stands out for iTunes compatibility, size, Apple remote and appearance. YMMV.
As a note for the above - we don't know that the battery is not replaceable yet. The device has smooth lines, but that doesn't preclude the possibility of a replaceable power source.
The bottom 3rd of the back is black, while the rest is silver. Perhaps it's removable?
Or maybe the entire back is removable. The top of the phone is where the SIM card goes, and you need to get there to put yours in don't you?
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As a note for the above - we don't know that the battery is not replaceable yet. The device has smooth lines, but that doesn't preclude the possibility of a replaceable power source.
If you can't take the back off though, how are you supposed to put in the sim card (unless there is a slot on the side to stick things in)
You listen to 8 hours of music/podcasts/audiobooks a day eh? That's starting to explain the disparity between your social/conversational skills and, say, the rest of us.
Dude, shut the fuck up
Feel free to take this to a PM anytime darling. I did.
Only after you posted some meaningless retarded insult. You and syndalis were both making this thread fucking annoying to read, and then you crossed the line, so shut the fuck up darling.
Pity. Don't like it? Don't fucking read it, I'm not holding a gun to your head, sweetie. Frankly your little addition is more suited to a PM cause we shouldn't argue in front of the kids. Oh, and you're a dick.
So your comment about syndalis not having a life is topic-worthy? Try harder you retarded little sweetums.
You're both fucking twats. Can we leave it at that or does pheezer need to get drunk
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IT'S GOT ME REACHING IN MY POCKET IT'S GOT ME FORKING OVER CASH
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
As a note for the above - we don't know that the battery is not replaceable yet. The device has smooth lines, but that doesn't preclude the possibility of a replaceable power source.
If you can't take the back off though, how are you supposed to put in the sim card (unless there is a slot on the side to stick things in)
Steve Job's speech suggests a SIM tray/slot. He mentions it in passing when talking about all the stuff in the iPhone.
And SIM trays are usually under the battery! Aha! Definitive proof! (well, maybe. Okay, so it's shakey. We can hope, can't we?)
Personally, I'm pleased with the fact that the damn thing doesn't have a power brick. I have no idea where I'm going to put this in my home theatre, but I get the feeling I'd like to show it off.
So is the main draw of this thing the HDMI? Because I'm having a hard time desciphering why I should care more about the appletv than the Mvix still... I don't have HDMI inputs on my HDTV so that's pretty much moot. But I do a lot of purchasing through itunes. Does the the Mvix not support mpegs downloaded from itunes or something?
Just wondering what the major plus that makes it stand out is.
The HDMI provides a digital throughput - slightly higher quality than component (most people can't tell). It is simple though as it carries uncompressed audio (if available) and video on the same stream/cable.
Maybe we shouldn't say better than the Mvix as much as a better choice for some. It uses the Apple remote - simplicity in itself (which some folks hate for that reason). It streams purchased stuff from iTunes (which I don't believe you can currently do with the Mvix) and it's elegant and wee.
It does appear that it will support USB storage and it's got all the right ports in all the right places. For the price, I like it. So in short, for me, it stands out for iTunes compatibility, size, Apple remote and appearance. YMMV.
Yeah the itunes compatability is extremely essential for me since that's the primary source of most of my music and television downloads. (Of the legal variety.)
And the snazzy GUI and mac remote compatibility really add to it.
As a note for the above - we don't know that the battery is not replaceable yet. The device has smooth lines, but that doesn't preclude the possibility of a replaceable power source.
If you can't take the back off though, how are you supposed to put in the sim card (unless there is a slot on the side to stick things in)
Steve Job's speech suggests a SIM tray/slot. He mentions it in passing when talking about all the stuff in the iPhone.
Looking at the top, there is no slot for the SIM card. You then must have to take off the entire back to put it in, or else the iPhone is magical.
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Blake TDo you have enemies then?Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered Userregular
As a note for the above - we don't know that the battery is not replaceable yet. The device has smooth lines, but that doesn't preclude the possibility of a replaceable power source.
If you can't take the back off though, how are you supposed to put in the sim card (unless there is a slot on the side to stick things in)
Steve Job's speech suggests a SIM tray/slot. He mentions it in passing when talking about all the stuff in the iPhone.
Looking at the top, there is no slot for the SIM card. You then must have to take off the entire back to put it in, or else the iPhone is magical.
You listen to 8 hours of music/podcasts/audiobooks a day eh? That's starting to explain the disparity between your social/conversational skills and, say, the rest of us.
Dude, shut the fuck up
Feel free to take this to a PM anytime darling. I did.
Only after you posted some meaningless retarded insult. You and syndalis were both making this thread fucking annoying to read, and then you crossed the line, so shut the fuck up darling.
Pity. Don't like it? Don't fucking read it, I'm not holding a gun to your head, sweetie. Frankly your little addition is more suited to a PM cause we shouldn't argue in front of the kids. Oh, and you're a dick.
So your comment about syndalis not having a life is topic-worthy? Try harder you retarded little sweetums.
You're both fucking twats. Can we leave it at that or does pheezer need to get drunk
As a note for the above - we don't know that the battery is not replaceable yet. The device has smooth lines, but that doesn't preclude the possibility of a replaceable power source.
If you can't take the back off though, how are you supposed to put in the sim card (unless there is a slot on the side to stick things in)
Steve Job's speech suggests a SIM tray/slot. He mentions it in passing when talking about all the stuff in the iPhone.
Looking at the top, there is no slot for the SIM card. You then must have to take off the entire back to put it in, or else the iPhone is magical.
:shock: You mean it wasn't magical before?
Well, it WAS assembled in Tir Na Nog by the happy people who never age.
Is anyone more interested in the Apple TV thing? Were any specs mentioned? I remember an article not too long ago about how TV show and movie sales on ITMS weren't so hot, and how the tiny screen on the iPod (and I guess some people feel watching TV on a computer is annoying too) was to blame. Apple is really good at finding ways to make people want to buy their expensive, DRM'd stuff.
This has probably already been mentioned but the phone costs as much as a PS3, that's insane. But when I think of the PS3 I feel like it's so overpriced, but I'm almost considering an iPhone.
[spoiler:c252057327]I have Cingular and will be up for an upgrade by the time it ships!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/spoiler:c252057327]
Apple is really good at finding ways to make people want to buy their expensive, DRM'd stuff.
Apple makes very little off each song or movie sold. They only make a few cents on each song sold, for example. It's more about dominating the market (end-to-end) than making money for them.
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SixCaches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhexRegistered Userregular
Apple is really good at finding ways to make people want to buy their expensive, DRM'd stuff.
Apple makes very little off each song or movie sold. They only make a few cents on each song sold, for example. It's more about dominating the market (end-to-end) than making money for them.
Dominating the market is a noble goal, and you're right it has nothing to do with making money.
Dominating the market is a noble goal, and you're right it has nothing to do with making money.
It is about making money, of course. It just isn't about making money off the DRMed content, which is what the other post was asserting.
Apple make the vast majority of their money off hardware, not off the iTunes store. The iTunes Store is basically just a big promotional tool for the iPod, and a way to lock people into buying more Apple hardware.
Who listens to their iPod through their work day? I know quite a few who do.
Now, take the 5 and divide it down to 2 1/2... and thats only if you aren;t using coverflow, or looking at album art or any of that other stuff. Lets say you talk on the phone for an hour that day. 1 1/2. Lets say you do your email for 20-30 minutes total that day. 1 hour. Lets drop another 30 minutes or so during my lunch break where I am browsing the forums, and checking up on the news. I have 30 minutes of battery life to spare.
This is a common day for me. It's not a lot of wiggle room.
But why did you divide 5 hours to 2 1/2?
Just to answer this...
you don;t think its 15 hours of music AND 5 hours of other stuff, do you?
I use about 7-8 hours of music/podcasts/audiobooks through the day.
I thought you were gone?
You listen to 8 hours of music/podcasts/audiobooks a day eh? That's starting to explain the disparity between your social/conversational skills and, say, the rest of us.
You really are a tremendous prick. Just thought I'd share.
Who listens to their iPod through their work day? I know quite a few who do.
Now, take the 5 and divide it down to 2 1/2... and thats only if you aren;t using coverflow, or looking at album art or any of that other stuff. Lets say you talk on the phone for an hour that day. 1 1/2. Lets say you do your email for 20-30 minutes total that day. 1 hour. Lets drop another 30 minutes or so during my lunch break where I am browsing the forums, and checking up on the news. I have 30 minutes of battery life to spare.
This is a common day for me. It's not a lot of wiggle room.
But why did you divide 5 hours to 2 1/2?
Just to answer this...
you don;t think its 15 hours of music AND 5 hours of other stuff, do you?
I use about 7-8 hours of music/podcasts/audiobooks through the day.
I thought you were gone?
You listen to 8 hours of music/podcasts/audiobooks a day eh? That's starting to explain the disparity between your social/conversational skills and, say, the rest of us.
You really are a tremendous prick. Just thought I'd share.
Yea, Syndalis makes a bunch of sense. I don't really care too much about the iPhone so I haven't commented in thread. But I needed to say,
Dude makes absolutely no sense at all. He's crapping all over the iPhone while making his crap VX6700 sound like some great deal, when Apple's new gadget just utterly outclasses it.
If you're in the market for a smartphone, and you'd rather have a $500 Windows Mobile phone over this ... then I don't know what to say. If this was a face-to-face conversation, I'd just laugh and walk away. What's the messageboard equivalent of this?
If you're in the market for a smartphone, and you'd rather have a $500 Windows Mobile phone over this ... then I don't know what to say. If this was a face-to-face conversation, I'd just laugh and walk away. What's the messageboard equivalent of this?
Being a cunt and talking about how stupid the other person is.
Dude makes absolutely no sense at all. He's crapping all over the iPhone while making his crap VX6700 sound like some great deal, when Apple's new gadget just utterly outclasses it.
If you're in the market for a smartphone, and you'd rather have a $500 Windows Mobile phone over this ... then I don't know what to say. If this was a face-to-face conversation, I'd just laugh and walk away. What's the messageboard equivalent of this?
Can you install software on the thing. That's what's nice about Windows Mobile (and no, I don't own a Windows Mobile phone). Just like with Windows, there's already a ton of (good?) software out there for it already.
Dominating the market is a noble goal, and you're right it has nothing to do with making money.
It is about making money, of course. It just isn't about making money off the DRMed content, which is what the other post was asserting.
Apple make the vast majority of their money off hardware, not off the iTunes store. The iTunes Store is basically just a big promotional tool for the iPod, and a way to lock people into buying more Apple hardware.
So the DRM allows Apple to create Hardware lockin, which in turn sells them more hardware which in turn is where Apple make the majority of their money. Correct?
So they aren't making money through DRM?
This is exactly what I was referring too. The Apple TV made me want to buy some iTunes content for some reason. With that iTunes content I would suddenly need an Apple TV device to get the most out of it.
Either way they are giving something away to get something else.
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For me it's soccer moms. Those minivans are scary vehicles. How one can manipulate lipstick, cellphone (iPhone?!), coffee, taser for the kids, radio and hair adjustment while piloting one - well, I'll never know.
Feel free to take this to a PM anytime darling. I did.
First thing is the battery, I sometimes don't make it home for two or three days straight, I would like it to last so I can do that and dick around a bit.
Secondly is the storage, it's obviously limited by flash and as such is a bit small, 20 gig would be a sweet spot for me for music, a little bit of video and enough wiggle room for file transfer.
Satans..... hints.....
Pity. Don't like it? Don't fucking read it, I'm not holding a gun to your head, sweetie. Frankly your little addition is more suited to a PM cause we shouldn't argue in front of the kids. Oh, and you're a dick.
Back on topic - like way back - to the Apple TV.
Personally, I'm pleased with the fact that the damn thing doesn't have a power brick. I have no idea where I'm going to put this in my home theatre, but I get the feeling I'd like to show it off.
When I read this discussion, I'm reminded of the PSP vs. DS discussion. PSP has what, about 5 hours battery life? DS has like 12ish? I'm gonna be honest, 5 hours seems pretty short to me, especially for the hefty premium you're paying to have it all in one device with an un-replaceable battery.
I look forward to seeing what they do after they iron out the kinks and it comes down in price.
I don't know what, but they just will.
I agree. You're a lovely person.
As a note for the above - we don't know that the battery is not replaceable yet. The device has smooth lines, but that doesn't preclude the possibility of a replaceable power source.
A lot can happen in six months. Fingers crossed we could see an increase in overall battery life. That being said - my Macbook is supposed to get 3 1/2 hours of juice. I routinely wring 5 hours out of it. The old adage is underpromise, overdeliver.
So is the main draw of this thing the HDMI? Because I'm having a hard time desciphering why I should care more about the appletv than the Mvix still... I don't have HDMI inputs on my HDTV so that's pretty much moot. But I do a lot of purchasing through itunes. Does the the Mvix not support mpegs downloaded from itunes or something?
Just wondering what the major plus that makes it stand out is.
The HDMI provides a digital throughput - slightly higher quality than component (most people can't tell). It is simple though as it carries uncompressed audio (if available) and video on the same stream/cable.
Maybe we shouldn't say better than the Mvix as much as a better choice for some. It uses the Apple remote - simplicity in itself (which some folks hate for that reason). It streams purchased stuff from iTunes (which I don't believe you can currently do with the Mvix) and it's elegant and wee.
It does appear that it will support USB storage and it's got all the right ports in all the right places. For the price, I like it. So in short, for me, it stands out for iTunes compatibility, size, Apple remote and appearance. YMMV.
Or maybe the entire back is removable. The top of the phone is where the SIM card goes, and you need to get there to put yours in don't you?
If you can't take the back off though, how are you supposed to put in the sim card (unless there is a slot on the side to stick things in)
Satans..... hints.....
You're both fucking twats. Can we leave it at that or does pheezer need to get drunk
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
And SIM trays are usually under the battery! Aha! Definitive proof! (well, maybe. Okay, so it's shakey. We can hope, can't we?)
Yeah the itunes compatability is extremely essential for me since that's the primary source of most of my music and television downloads. (Of the legal variety.)
And the snazzy GUI and mac remote compatibility really add to it.
Thanks for the input Threepio.
:shock: You mean it wasn't magical before?
Satans..... hints.....
Well, it WAS assembled in Tir Na Nog by the happy people who never age.
At least that's how the Jobsian RDF spins Foxconn
Oh come now. Clearly I'm a twat, but there's no need to come down hard on Zoolander. He's a gentleman of the highest degree.
I apologize, Zoolander, for irritating you in any way. Do enjoy your iPhone when you procure one.
Is anyone more interested in the Apple TV thing? Were any specs mentioned? I remember an article not too long ago about how TV show and movie sales on ITMS weren't so hot, and how the tiny screen on the iPod (and I guess some people feel watching TV on a computer is annoying too) was to blame. Apple is really good at finding ways to make people want to buy their expensive, DRM'd stuff.
This has probably already been mentioned but the phone costs as much as a PS3, that's insane. But when I think of the PS3 I feel like it's so overpriced, but I'm almost considering an iPhone.
[spoiler:c252057327]I have Cingular and will be up for an upgrade by the time it ships!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/spoiler:c252057327]
Apple makes very little off each song or movie sold. They only make a few cents on each song sold, for example. It's more about dominating the market (end-to-end) than making money for them.
Dominating the market is a noble goal, and you're right it has nothing to do with making money.
It is about making money, of course. It just isn't about making money off the DRMed content, which is what the other post was asserting.
Apple make the vast majority of their money off hardware, not off the iTunes store. The iTunes Store is basically just a big promotional tool for the iPod, and a way to lock people into buying more Apple hardware.
You really are a tremendous prick. Just thought I'd share.
Yea, Syndalis makes a bunch of sense. I don't really care too much about the iPhone so I haven't commented in thread. But I needed to say,
Threepio, who crammed a dick up your ass today.
Dude makes absolutely no sense at all. He's crapping all over the iPhone while making his crap VX6700 sound like some great deal, when Apple's new gadget just utterly outclasses it.
If you're in the market for a smartphone, and you'd rather have a $500 Windows Mobile phone over this ... then I don't know what to say. If this was a face-to-face conversation, I'd just laugh and walk away. What's the messageboard equivalent of this?
Takes you to the main menu.
This is exactly what I was referring too. The Apple TV made me want to buy some iTunes content for some reason. With that iTunes content I would suddenly need an Apple TV device to get the most out of it.
Either way they are giving something away to get something else.