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Crackdown + Halo 3 beta = Irrational hate. Wh

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  • VacuumJockeyVacuumJockey Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Renzo wrote:
    It'd be funny if it were on the disc, though. Especially if you had to load up Crackdown to play the demo.
    Dude, heads would melt.

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  • CyberJackalCyberJackal Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    You actually have to find the beta code in-game. It's hidden in a crazy well defended enemy fortress.

    Mwahahaha.

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  • GlaealGlaeal Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    So... how is this any different from bundling the MGS2 demo with Zone of the Enders, or bundling the FFXII demo with Dragon Quest VIII?

    People amaze me.

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  • PendegastPendegast Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    The beta code could be unlocked as part of a really obnoxious achievement goal.

    BETA BLASTER ACHIEVEMENT: Complete Crackdown on Easy, Hard, Difficult and Insane settings, and reach the #1 position on the multiplay world leader board!

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Kami wrote:
    Kami wrote:
    Renzo wrote:
    If anyone wants to know the beta probably won't be in a disk and isn't going to be available when you get crackdown. It will probably just be a code so you can download it in the spring or something.
    It'd be funny if it were on the disc, though. Especially if you had to load up Crackdown to play the demo.

    From my understanding, there's no 'code' that comes with the game, each first-shipment copy (or specially marked copies within first shipment, that is) contains the beta-key on the disc itself. So, you load up Crackdown, and that's your invite to the beta.

    So im assuming it works like this, I stick Crackdown in, it says "sup beta" and automatically binds the code or whatever to my gamertag. If I put this on someone elses 360 afterwards, it should be like "nah beta". Right?

    I believe so. The only thing we received on the matter was a company email explaining how the beta would be accessed, but I imagine it's a one-time use thing, yeah.
    Well, if it works like that, there's a pretty good chance there won't be any copies to rent at say Blockbuster. Which, outside of a demo, would probably be the only way I'll play the game. I'm not going to drop 70 bucks on blind faith of a game I've never heard of.

    And on a tangent note, why on earth is it a "Beta" of Halo 3? It's a frigging FPS, not an MMO. What the hell is there to "beta"? When are we going to get beta's of the new Megaman or Mario game?

    Beta... I never use stupid internet acronyms... but lol.

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    darleysam wrote:
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    you said yourself, you'd hardly heard anything of this game. I reckon that's the case for a lot of people out there. What people have heard of, is Halo 3. A move like this will no-doubt sell far more copies of Crackdown than had originally been anticipated. That's no slur on the game, just it may well have been another slow-burning success. Like this, it's suddenly thrust into the public. Of course, it's up to the game to now hold its own, but i'd wager there's far more people going to be playing it now, than there would've been, meaning there's a far greater chance of turning it into a reusable franchise than a one-hit wonder.

    Another game did something like this, and for the bottle of Jager and half bottle of Smirnoff (I know, I type good, no need for compliments), I can't remember what. I think it was Parasite Eve. Non-interactive FFVIII and interatctive Xenogears.

    I have no problem with bundling demos with games. More bang for buck, but if you tack price on for the demo then we've got problems. I didn't want to buy your demo, I wanted to buy your game. You want to give me the demo? Cool. You want me to pay for something you placed in something else I wanted without conulsting me? Well, little bit of disagreement now.

    Crackdown isn't marked up for the demo, is it? I doubt it, so what's the big deal? Like someone (again, too drunk to remember) said earlier, people will bitch just to bitch. Cut their nose off to spite their face kind of thing.



    Stupid people.

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  • VacuumJockeyVacuumJockey Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Docshifty wrote:
    And on a tangent note, why on earth is it a "Beta" of Halo 3? It's a frigging FPS, not an MMO. What the hell is there to "beta"? When are we going to get beta's of the new Megaman or Mario game?
    Definition of a software beta

    And as someone said before, betas of console games at the consumer level are almost unheard of. If fact, this is the first I've ever heard of. As for why Halo 3 and not Mario or Megaman? Your guess is as good as mine.

    And my guess is that Bungie/MS wants to end the trilogy in the pimpest style possible; customer feedback on the netcode -- which is what gives games longivity these days -- will help them do just that.

    That they then chose to bundle the Halo 3 demo with Crackdown is what is giving all the asstards over at the official forums the blind, staggering fits -- which is very lame, considering that there are other ways to get into the beta, as evidenced in this very thread.

    And I still think they should have bundled the H3 beta with Viva Pinata. Although that would probably have led to suicides and the resulting bad PR. Ah well.

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  • VacuumJockeyVacuumJockey Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Sorry Docshifty -- that response was meant for The Wolfman, but with my severe retardation, even simple quoting is way beyond me.

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  • SandersSanders Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    What you want to happen: The Halo 3 beta being with the game will spark interest in Crackdown and expand the online userbase.

    What will happen: People will realise it is a beta and not the second coming of christ with a million hot virgins only to go onto Crackdown online and bitch about how horrible Halo 3 is and how they wasted $60 on the game for it.

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2007
    This means if I want to buy Crackdown I'm going to find 1 million used copies at my local gaming stores.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Docshifty wrote:
    And on a tangent note, why on earth is it a "Beta" of Halo 3? It's a frigging FPS, not an MMO. What the hell is there to "beta"? When are we going to get beta's of the new Megaman or Mario game?
    Definition of a software beta

    And as someone said before, betas of console games at the consumer level are almost unheard of. If fact, this is the first I've ever heard of. As for why Halo 3 and not Mario or Megaman? Your guess is as good as mine.

    And my guess is that Bungie/MS wants to end the trilogy in the pimpest style possible; customer feedback on the netcode -- which is what gives games longivity these days -- will help them do just that.

    That they then chose to bundle the Halo 3 demo with Crackdown is what is giving all the asstards over at the official forums the blind, staggering fits -- which is very lame, considering that there are other ways to get into the beta, as evidenced in this very thread.

    And I still think they should have bundled the H3 beta with Viva Pinata. Although that would probably have led to suicides and the resulting bad PR. Ah well.
    that's why i really like this open beta. You think how many glitches and bugs were found in Halo 2 by people spending countless hours onb it and picking it to pieces. These seem to be the kinds of things that their own testers miss. I would hope that by doing this, they'll get much, much wider, more detailed information on what works, and what doesn't. Hell, the number of people in the community that bitch about games that are broken, this is a great opportunity to help fix that. Bungie get a whole load of free testers to play their game, and a large volume of people get an early peek at Halo 3. It's a good deal.

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  • YallYall Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Sort of answered my own question from another thread:

    From the EBGames website:

    "Purchase Crackdown for the Xbox 360 and gain access to the Halo 3 Multiplayer Beta! A code to access the Beta will be packaged with Crackdown. Limited time offer. Only on specially marked boxes including all pre-orders. Requires a hard drive and Xbox Live Gold subscription. Halo 3 Multiplayer beta expected to begin Spring 2007. "

    Looks like all pre-orders will have the beta access.

    I'm not even sure I want it that bad (I might just get it to... gasp... play Crackdown) but I would love to rub it in the faces of my friends who still play Halo 2 and ignore more other good games.

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  • solsovlysolsovly Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    This means if I want to buy Crackdown I'm going to find 1 million used copies at my local gaming stores.

    I was thinking about that since I have an interest in Crackdown. Then I realized the price will be $55 used, the same price I could buy it new with a Gamer's Gift Card from Bestbuy.

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  • GyralGyral Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    This means if I want to buy Crackdown I'm going to find 1 million used copies at my local gaming stores.
    Which is probably why I'll wait a month to get it.

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  • RobRob Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Is it sad that the only news I've heard about Crackdown is the Halo 3 beta bundled with it? I mean, this $60 beta comes with a free game, damnit!
    Pendegast wrote:
    The beta code could be unlocked as part of a really obnoxious achievement goal.

    BETA BLASTER ACHIEVEMENT: Complete Crackdown on Easy, Hard, Difficult and Insane settings, and reach the #1 position on the multiplay world leader board!

    Or you could always buy the achievement with a micropayment :D

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  • BiggNifeBiggNife Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Crackdown itself actually sounds really fun. You can basically do whatever you want in co-op, so I can see it being a ton of fun with a friend. You can do ridiculous things like throw cars at each other or beat up people for no reason. I'd probably get it even without the beta.

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  • blakfeldblakfeld Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Im a halo fan, although Im turned off by the multiplayer because I dont dedicate myself to it, therefore I oft get my ass handed to me, but I find the single player to be enjoyable.

    That said, after the demo, Im buying Crackdown for mother fucking Crackdown

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    blakfeld wrote:
    Im a halo fan, although Im turned off by the multiplayer because I dont dedicate myself to it, therefore I oft get my ass handed to me, but I find the single player to be enjoyable.

    That said, after the demo, Im buying Crackdown for mother fucking Crackdown
    that's how i see it. I want to play Crackdown for Crackdown's sake. That there's a Halo 3 beta bundled in? Bonus.

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  • fragglefartfragglefart Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    darleysam wrote:
    Docshifty wrote:
    And on a tangent note, why on earth is it a "Beta" of Halo 3? It's a frigging FPS, not an MMO. What the hell is there to "beta"? When are we going to get beta's of the new Megaman or Mario game?
    Definition of a software beta

    And as someone said before, betas of console games at the consumer level are almost unheard of. If fact, this is the first I've ever heard of. As for why Halo 3 and not Mario or Megaman? Your guess is as good as mine.

    And my guess is that Bungie/MS wants to end the trilogy in the pimpest style possible; customer feedback on the netcode -- which is what gives games longivity these days -- will help them do just that.

    That they then chose to bundle the Halo 3 demo with Crackdown is what is giving all the asstards over at the official forums the blind, staggering fits -- which is very lame, considering that there are other ways to get into the beta, as evidenced in this very thread.

    And I still think they should have bundled the H3 beta with Viva Pinata. Although that would probably have led to suicides and the resulting bad PR. Ah well.
    that's why i really like this open beta. You think how many glitches and bugs were found in Halo 2 by people spending countless hours onb it and picking it to pieces. These seem to be the kinds of things that their own testers miss. I would hope that by doing this, they'll get much, much wider, more detailed information on what works, and what doesn't. Hell, the number of people in the community that bitch about games that are broken, this is a great opportunity to help fix that. Bungie get a whole load of free testers to play their game, and a large volume of people get an early peek at Halo 3. It's a good deal.
    This is exactly how I feel, I want the bugs ironed out, and positive feedback passed back to the devs. This beta could enable some great things. Plus I get in on it with a game I want anyway, Crackdown looks damned awesome. This beta is a great idea.

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  • BaronVonSnakPakBaronVonSnakPak Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    i took a shit on my dragon quest 8 case when i found out the FF12 demo was inside.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    The beta is not just for bugs and netcode issues, either. If you have gameplay tweaks or suggestions, submit them. Give them your reason why you think your idea is a good one, and it may be implemented.

    People are using the terms "demo" and "beta" interchangeably. If you treat it like a piece of unfinished software, and make suggestions and bug reports accordingly, the full game will be better for it.

    This is all considering there is a way to make such reports. And I really, really hope there is. But I doubt it.

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  • 043043 Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Renzo wrote:
    The beta is not just for bugs and netcode issues, either. If you have gameplay tweaks or suggestions, submit them. Give them your reason why you think your idea is a good one, and it may be implemented.

    People are using the terms "demo" and "beta" interchangeably. If you treat it like a piece of unfinished software, and make suggestions and bug reports accordingly, the full game will be better for it.

    This is all considering there is a way to make such reports. And I really, really hope there is. But I doubt it.

    There will probably be an e-mail account set up just like there is for H2 cheating.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    043 wrote:
    Renzo wrote:
    The beta is not just for bugs and netcode issues, either. If you have gameplay tweaks or suggestions, submit them. Give them your reason why you think your idea is a good one, and it may be implemented.

    People are using the terms "demo" and "beta" interchangeably. If you treat it like a piece of unfinished software, and make suggestions and bug reports accordingly, the full game will be better for it.

    This is all considering there is a way to make such reports. And I really, really hope there is. But I doubt it.

    There will probably be an e-mail account set up just like there is for H2 cheating.
    i would firstly assume they'll be monitoring every bit of attainable detail that they can, far far closer than they did with Halo 2. With their talk of monitoring to see who was lagging games and using various hacks and cheats (however genuine that was), i'd figure there'll be a microscope applied to Halo 3's performance, at least for this beta. Launch a flagship title like this, only to have it full of glitches, and you take a big hit. But yes, some kind of intuitive reporting system would be great, and something i'd gladly take advantage of. Hell, i might even play with a pad of paper beside me, so i can take notes.

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