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Curly Hair can not be styled in a way that is attractive/not a fro

joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class TraitorSmoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
edited January 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
It's time for a haircut, H/A.

My hair is very, very curly.

Here is a picture for reference.

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I like having hair on top of my head, so I'm not really interested in buzz or shortly cropped cuts so much, but perhaps you have a photograph of a style that would change my mind.

I do think it may be time to try something other than "trimming it a bit", if such a thing is possible with such curls.

Show me a haircut that would look good on me, and I will pay you money*!

*I won't actually pay you money

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Grow it out a bit and try to use a hair straightener? That's about your only option otherwise I think it's just going to be a longer version of what you have now.

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  • -Phil--Phil- Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Cut it really short?

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    One other thing I should mention is that a little product is okay, but only if you can specify a brand and exact product name. I don't have time or money to try a variety of gels/mousses/pomades.

    I don't want something very involved either, it would cut into the time I spend painting my nails and waxing my bikini line in the morning

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    -Phil- wrote: »
    Cut it really short?
    I'm not really interested in buzz or shortly cropped cuts so much

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  • -Phil--Phil- Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    -Phil- wrote: »
    Cut it really short?
    I'm not really interested in buzz or shortly cropped cuts so much

    He should really give it a try. Honestly, whats the worst that can happen. He grows his hair back in a few weeks and tries something else. Besides short hair cuts have their benefits.

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  • truck-a-saurastruck-a-sauras Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    bowen wrote: »
    Grow it out a bit and try to use a hair straightener? That's about your only option otherwise I think it's just going to be a longer version of what you have now.

    http://www.walgreens.com/store/catalog/Styling-Products-/Pink-Conditioning-No-Lye-Relaxer-System/ID=prod8270&navCount=17&navAction=push-product

    straightener/relaxer works very very well. If there isn't a black woman on the box you aren't buying the correct product either. Hell this stuff works so well that Chris Rock is doing an entire movie around it that is coming out soon.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    -Phil- wrote: »
    -Phil- wrote: »
    Cut it really short?
    I'm not really interested in buzz or shortly cropped cuts so much

    He should really give it a try. Honestly, whats the worst that can happen. He grows his hair back in a few weeks and tries something else. Besides short hair cuts have their benefits.

    I've tried it many times. It doesn't look good on me. Also, my abusive father used to shave all my hair off as a punishment when I was a child. That's not what this thread is about, so moving on...

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    bowen wrote: »
    Grow it out a bit and try to use a hair straightener? That's about your only option otherwise I think it's just going to be a longer version of what you have now.

    http://www.walgreens.com/store/catalog/Styling-Products-/Pink-Conditioning-No-Lye-Relaxer-System/ID=prod8270&navCount=17&navAction=push-product

    straightener/relaxer works very very well. If there isn't a black woman on the box you aren't buying the correct product either. Hell this stuff works so well that Chris Rock is doing an entire movie around it that is coming out soon.

    The only thing that really bothers me about straightener is I don't know how to comb, maintain, or style straight hair. Is the learning curve steep? Right now I just jump in the shower (if my hair is dry when combed it literally frizzes up into an afro) and then comb it forward in the front, back everywhere else.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Once straightened there's a few things you can do, you can go with the typical hairdo where you part it and comb sideways.

    Similar to this:
    http://menshair.about.com/od/picturegalleries/ig/Medium-Styles/medium05.htm

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    If you go the straight route, I have had phenomenal luck with wax based hair product. Lately, my goto is something by Bed Head in a black squeeze tube.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    How often does straightener need to be applied?

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    How often does straightener need to be applied?

    Depends on your hair, but usually once a day.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Flat irons work too.

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  • truck-a-saurastruck-a-sauras Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    bowen wrote: »
    Grow it out a bit and try to use a hair straightener? That's about your only option otherwise I think it's just going to be a longer version of what you have now.

    http://www.walgreens.com/store/catalog/Styling-Products-/Pink-Conditioning-No-Lye-Relaxer-System/ID=prod8270&navCount=17&navAction=push-product

    straightener/relaxer works very very well. If there isn't a black woman on the box you aren't buying the correct product either. Hell this stuff works so well that Chris Rock is doing an entire movie around it that is coming out soon.

    The only thing that really bothers me about straightener is I don't know how to comb, maintain, or style straight hair. Is the learning curve steep? Right now I just jump in the shower (if my hair is dry when combed it literally frizzes up into an afro) and then comb it forward in the front, back everywhere else.

    learning curve steep, eh, you'll probably look dumb for a while, but that is normal. Everybody goes through phases even if they are born with straighter hair of trying out different styles until they find one that matches their head shape and frames their face well..... hell some people never figure it out and look dumb for life. learning curve goes for anything new.... don't get too discouraged at first and keep with it.

    I'd highly suggest growing out your current hair as far as you can stomach, then straighten and go to a barber and have them help you cut and style it. That would give you an easier starting point.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I agree with this.

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  • truck-a-saurastruck-a-sauras Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    bowen wrote: »
    How often does straightener need to be applied?

    Depends on your hair, but usually once a day.

    note this does not apply to the kit I linked to at Walgreens..... those will last for 1 - 6 months YMMV. daily application products are nothing like straightening kits designed for afros that most black women use. They have chemicals in there to scorch the earth and they work well.

    Also follow the directions in the kit and put Vaseline on your skin at your hairlines. If you get some of this stuff on your skin it burns bad. You'll want help applying this so you don't get it on your scalp also. sounds scary yes, but worth it if you really want a drastic change

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    bowen wrote: »
    Grow it out a bit and try to use a hair straightener? That's about your only option otherwise I think it's just going to be a longer version of what you have now.

    http://www.walgreens.com/store/catalog/Styling-Products-/Pink-Conditioning-No-Lye-Relaxer-System/ID=prod8270&navCount=17&navAction=push-product

    straightener/relaxer works very very well. If there isn't a black woman on the box you aren't buying the correct product either. Hell this stuff works so well that Chris Rock is doing an entire movie around it that is coming out soon.

    The only thing that really bothers me about straightener is I don't know how to comb, maintain, or style straight hair. Is the learning curve steep? Right now I just jump in the shower (if my hair is dry when combed it literally frizzes up into an afro) and then comb it forward in the front, back everywhere else.

    learning curve steep, eh, you'll probably look dumb for a while, but that is normal. Everybody goes through phases even if they are born with straighter hair of trying out different styles until they find one that matches their head shape and frames their face well..... hell some people never figure it out and look dumb for life. learning curve goes for anything new.... don't get too discouraged at first and keep with it.

    I'd highly suggest growing out your current hair as far as you can stomach, then straighten and go to a barber and have them help you cut and style it. That would give you an easier starting point.

    I'm already months past due for a haircut, I just haven't had time what with two jobs, two kids, full-time classes and a new weight training schedule.

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  • HoovesHooves Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    you don't even need to have long hair to use a flat iron. my hair is like three inches on the top of my head and about an inch on the sides and I use a flat iron sometimes. I don't even have curly hair(it's kind of wavy) it's just an easy way to style it if my hair is beibng disagreeable.

    also judging fom the picture you could really benefit from trimming the sides and back of your hair up and leaving it the same length on top.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I tried a flat iron once, it made my hair hot, straight as a board down to my shoulders and frizzy as hell

    As soon as I washed it, it shrunk back into curls again

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  • eatmosushieatmosushi __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2010
    josh can i suggest adding a nice humectant and growing it into a baller fro?

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I tried a flat iron once, it made my hair hot, straight as a board down to my shoulders and frizzy as hell

    As soon as I washed it, it shrunk back into curls again

    Yes. That is because moisture undoes the heat process.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I guess the problem I was seeing is that it was frizzy and totally dry

    Which is not a good look

    If I added product, it would just go back the way it was, removing the point of a flat iron

    Am I missing something?

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  • HoovesHooves Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    what you want to do is apply the product to your hair then go at it with the flat iron. you'll here a sizzling sound but don't worry its not your hair burning its just the product and it will come out looking much less frizzy than it would otherwise.

    I would recommend using a pomade for this procedure. I find gilette brand pomade to work well/smell nice.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    bowen wrote: »
    How often does straightener need to be applied?

    Depends on your hair, but usually once a day.

    note this does not apply to the kit I linked to at Walgreens..... those will last for 1 - 6 months YMMV. daily application products are nothing like straightening kits designed for afros that most black women use. They have chemicals in there to scorch the earth and they work well.

    Also follow the directions in the kit and put Vaseline on your skin at your hairlines. If you get some of this stuff on your skin it burns bad. You'll want help applying this so you don't get it on your scalp also. sounds scary yes, but worth it if you really want a drastic change

    Yeah I had not realized that's what you had linked. Also a good thing.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Hooves wrote: »
    I would recommend using a pomade for this procedure. I find gilette brand pomade to work well/smell nice.

    I hear that the pleasing odor is half the point

    Anyway, I'm still wanting to keep my options open on the curly hair front, so is there nothing I can do besides super fro and what I've currently got, short of cropping it short?

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    As someone who used to be a receptionist at a hair salon, I'm afraid you don't have many options. You're either gonna look goofy, fro it, or cut it really short. Guys get the short end of the stick with curly hair whereas girls can get away with it.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    If I walk into a barbershop/hair salon and tell them to straighten the fuck out of my hair for at least a year, then style it however they think it looks good, will I get funny looks?

    Assuming I don't say fuck

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Most people don't like being told that. They like some idea of what you want. Also, chemical straightening can both kill your hair and rape your wallet. Is that kind of upkeeep really worth it?

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    If I walk into a barbershop/hair salon and tell them to straighten the fuck out of my hair for at least a year, then style it however they think it looks good, will I get funny looks?

    Assuming I don't say fuck

    You're going to look even funnier with it straightened and fried to hell. Just accept what you've been given and either flaunt it or keep it nice and tight. :P

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  • JuggernautEXJuggernautEX Registered User new member
    edited January 2010
    Esh wrote: »
    If I walk into a barbershop/hair salon and tell them to straighten the fuck out of my hair for at least a year, then style it however they think it looks good, will I get funny looks?

    Assuming I don't say fuck

    You're going to look even funnier with it straightened and fried to hell. Just accept what you've been given and either flaunt it or keep it nice and tight. :P

    this man knows whats up, i alternate between shaved head for awhile and uhhh... being awesome
    sup.th.jpg

    you know you want to try it.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Esh wrote: »
    If I walk into a barbershop/hair salon and tell them to straighten the fuck out of my hair for at least a year, then style it however they think it looks good, will I get funny looks?

    Assuming I don't say fuck

    You're going to look even funnier with it straightened and fried to hell. Just accept what you've been given and either flaunt it or keep it nice and tight. :P

    this man knows whats up, i alternate between shaved head for awhile and uhhh... being awesome
    sup.th.jpg

    you know you want to try it.

    That is amazing.

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  • AvicusAvicus Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I have annoying curly hair that I hate :(

    Sometime 4/5 years ago I decided to straighten it. I tried to use a straightening iron but it was a cheap one so it didn't work out to well. I then got my hair chemically straightened which is an expensive procedure. It cost around 200-300AU and what it does is it makes all the hair go perfectly straight but as the new hair grows, it is the same as the original hair. This means after a month or two the regrowth is not the same as the rest of the hair and it looks very awkward.

    When the chemical straightening grew out I got a GHD straightening iron. The quality of the iron really matters. The cheap ones made my hair go so frizzy and disgusting whereas the GHD makes my hair perfectly straight and it doesn't feel like it will snap if I bent it. I really love my GHD <3

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  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2010
    bowen wrote: »
    Grow it out a bit and try to use a hair straightener? That's about your only option otherwise I think it's just going to be a longer version of what you have now.

    http://www.walgreens.com/store/catalog/Styling-Products-/Pink-Conditioning-No-Lye-Relaxer-System/ID=prod8270&navCount=17&navAction=push-product

    straightener/relaxer works very very well. If there isn't a black woman on the box you aren't buying the correct product either. Hell this stuff works so well that Chris Rock is doing an entire movie around it that is coming out soon.

    His movie's about the fact that the primary ingredient is rat poison.

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  • truck-a-saurastruck-a-sauras Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Scalfin wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Grow it out a bit and try to use a hair straightener? That's about your only option otherwise I think it's just going to be a longer version of what you have now.

    http://www.walgreens.com/store/catalog/Styling-Products-/Pink-Conditioning-No-Lye-Relaxer-System/ID=prod8270&navCount=17&navAction=push-product

    straightener/relaxer works very very well. If there isn't a black woman on the box you aren't buying the correct product either. Hell this stuff works so well that Chris Rock is doing an entire movie around it that is coming out soon.

    His movie's about the fact that the primary ingredient is rat poison.

    no wonder that stuff works so good. poison that curly hair to death and it is reborn like a phoenix into straight hair.

    Even given that fact, if you are really fed up with your hair I'd still try this. I've done it in the past with great results and it killed all the rats too!

    And yeah it was mentioned this is expensive in a salon setting. That is why I'd opt for the home kit at less than $10. It is a small amount of money for a trial basis of straight hair.

    Yeah all new growth will come in naturally and screw up the look, but depending on how fast your hair grows you should get at the very least a month or two before it looks too crazy and needs another $10 rat killing procedure.

    the rat thing is concerning yes, but there are so many products out there with crazy ingredients. So it isn't like a pants shitting revelation or fear that pops up. How many years on end treatments of this do black women go through and there hasn't been any giant recall or ban on these products? That is why I'm not really too shocked at the moment. Hell if his movie uncovers some great injustice that all these people now have cancer or some other horrible malady I'll gladly rescind my current views.

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  • PracticalProblemSolverPracticalProblemSolver Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Hooves wrote: »
    also judging fom the picture you could really benefit from trimming the sides and back of your hair up and leaving it the same length on top.

    this

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