Reading this thread has spurned the need to watch Alien, Aliens and probably Predator today. The only question on the first two is: do I watch the theatrical, or the director's cut?
Director's cut for both.
@ Peter Ebel
Man, I am fucking in love with Alien. I want to take that movie on a date and pay for its dinner.
The suspense, the bleak scenery, the creature designs. Fucking awesome.
Not to say that I don't like Aliens, Alien's perkier younger sister, but it's a different sort of appreciation.
Wholly agree with the above.
Also, Full Disclosure: With regards to the other Alien movies, I'm one of those jackasses who ignores anything after Aliens. Because seriously in my opinion shit went downhill after that.
You remember names AND lines from Alien and Aliens. Can't remmeber anything from anything following those two.
"We commit these bodies to the void. With a glad heart."
"We're on the honor system"
"Then we're fucked."
"When they first heard about this thing, it was "Crew Expendable." The next time they sent in Marines. They were expendable too. What makes you think they're gonna care about a bunch of lifers who found God at the ass-end of space?"
"You're all gonna die. The only question is how you check out: Do you want it on your feet? Or on your fuckin' knees. Begging. I ain't much for begging. Nobody ever gave me nothin. So I say FUCK that thing. Let's fight it!"
Alien 3 had some lines.
Dillon: Why? Why are the innocent punished? Why the sacrifice? Why the pain? There aren't any promises. Nothing certain. Only that some get called, some get saved. She won't ever know the hardship and grief for those of us left behind. We commit these bodies to the void with a glad heart. For within each seed, there is a promise of a flower, and within each death, no matter how small, there's always a new life. A new beginning. Amen.
I LOVE the 'director's cut' of Alien 3 in the 'quadrillogy' where they juxtapose the line "for within each seed, there is a promise of a flower..." with the alien bursting out of the cow belly. Hell, I just love the 'director's cut' version.
1) McTiernan at the height of his game
2) The "WTF" aspect of the "this is a monster movie?" twist at the middle of the film
3) Schwarzenegger wilding out.
AVP was a movie that should've been impossible to fuck up. you got some aliens, and you got some predators, and they duke it out. you don't even need any humans, or dialogue. just two hours of some aliens and predators fucking up each others' shit. there was no good goddamned reason for that movie to have sucked as hard as it did.
That was AVP:R and it still sucked. When James Cameron thinks a movie about a war between alien species is going to suck, it's going to suck. It's like Michael Bay saying a movie has too many explosions in it.
No, there were still humans whining in AVP:R. Manny has it right. Just Aliens one one side and Predators on the other and then mash them together like you used to do with your Optimus Prime and Megatron toys (or, if you were po', Cykill and Leader-1) for 90 minutes. No humans. No whining. No rock music. No urf. Just *whooom* *whap-poooh* *bish* "SCREEEEEEEEEEE"
You've never seen El Mariachi, Once Upon A Time In Mexico, Sin City, Spy Kids, From Dusk Till Dawn, or Planet Terror?
You gotta see Deperado. If for no more reason than Salma Hayek's boobies.
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I must say, the idea of a 300-esque action flick in the AvP universe both titillates and enrages me, because got damn it this should have been so easy I hate you all
I had hoped that AvP was going to be a good movie. "We got some aliens" Ok, good "And we got some predators" Better "and it's two minutes in the future and they're fighting in Antarctica in a buried temple built by people to worship Predators" No.
I must say, the idea of a 300-esque action flick in the AvP universe both titillates and enrages me, because got damn it this should have been so easy I hate you all
Yeah, it should have been easy. It kinda writes itself, Aliens, Predators, 2 hours of non stop carnage.
I had hoped that AvP was going to be a good movie. "We got some aliens" Ok, good "And we got some predators" Better "and it's two minutes in the future and they're fighting in Antarctica in a buried temple built by people to worship Predators" No.
And don't forget "All of the humans are total pussies and will fail to even die in an amusing manner"
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See I think they go wrong the instant they go "Aliens, but versus Predators!!!".
All I can think of is some greedy asshat going "How can we make the kids spend more money on two dormant franchises??? We have the monster of each franchise punch each other!" And then they make a lot of money and it saddens me.
There is no need to mix and match the two series when they are so awesome on their own already
I had hoped that AvP was going to be a good movie. "We got some aliens" Ok, good "And we got some predators" Better "and it's two minutes in the future and they're fighting in Antarctica in a buried temple built by people to worship Predators" No.
And don't forget "All of the humans are total pussies and will fail to even die in an amusing manner"
:^:
At least AvP: Requiem kind of fixed that. It was still a crappy movie though.
See I think they go wrong the instant they go "Aliens, but versus Predators!!!".
All I can think of is some greedy asshat going "How can we make the kids spend more money on two dormant franchises??? We have the monster of each franchise punch each other!" And then they make a lot of money and it saddens me.
There is no need to mix and match the two series when they are so awesome on their own already
As much as I like the AvP video games and the idea of a "who's the better badass" battle, I'm going to have to agree with this. When the Alien skull showed up in the Pred ship in Predator 2, you bet your ass that there were studio suits somewhere thinking "moneymoneymoneymoneymoney".
I'm still going to buy the new AvP game when it comes out though.
I had hoped that AvP was going to be a good movie. "We got some aliens" Ok, good "And we got some predators" Better "and it's two minutes in the future and they're fighting in Antarctica in a buried temple built by people to worship Predators" No.
And don't forget "All of the humans are total pussies and will fail to even die in an amusing manner"
:^:
At least AvP: Requiem kind of fixed that. It was still a crappy movie though.
See I think they go wrong the instant they go "Aliens, but versus Predators!!!".
All I can think of is some greedy asshat going "How can we make the kids spend more money on two dormant franchises??? We have the monster of each franchise punch each other!" And then they make a lot of money and it saddens me.
There is no need to mix and match the two series when they are so awesome on their own already
As much as I like the AvP video games and the idea of a "who's the better badass" battle, I'm going to have to agree with this.
It doesn't have to be who's the better bad ass. It just has to be a bunch of predators running around an alien den fighting hordes of aliens. Hell they can all die in the end and nobody would care.
I never understood why Alien 3 got so much flak. Ok, that's not true, it gives the previous movie the finger and is nihilistic as fuck but goddamn is it entertaining. Alien is still my personal favorite but Alien 3 is a close second primarily because it goes back to the series' suspenseful roots. I also thought that Alien 3 overall had more interesting cinematography and superior sound mixing compared to Aliens. The chase scene from the alien's viewpoint at the end is fuckin BITCHIN. And Dylan's "God will take care of you now, sister...pour the lead" followed by a "oh, fuck you" is one of my all time favorite movie scenes. Sure the movie had its flaws but Fincher had a lot of really great ideas. If anything, it's nihilistic tone seems appropriate considering how the awesomeness of the previous two movies almost negates the necessity for a sequel. When all is said and done, both Alien 3 and Alien are suspense slasher movies only alien 3 is hopeless as fuck.
Personally, I think alien, aliens, and alien 3 are all around the same level. Alien 3 is the most flawed to be sure, but I love it anyway.
Also, yes, predator is indeed the manliest movie ever made. "GET TO THE CHOPPA!"
I had high hopes for AvP. But the instant that 2 of the 3 predators goes out like chumps within 5 minutes of fighting the Xenos. That was my first clue that something was amiss. I mean sure, just the fact that there were 3 Predators, you knew at LEAST one would die. But those two went down so casually.
it was just wrong
That and the plasma cannon sound changed from an awesome whiplash sound to this wimpy, high pitched, "pew pew"
"All right, sweethearts, what are you waiting for? Breakfast in bed? Another glorious day in the Corps! A day in the Marine Corps is like a day on the farm. Every meal's a banquet! Every paycheck a fortune! Every formation a parade! I LOVE the Corps! "
Oh man, our Shadowrun RPG sessions. The quotes from Aliens and Predator were raining from the sky.
"All right, sweethearts, what are you waiting for? Breakfast in bed? Another glorious day in the Corps! A day in the Marine Corps is like a day on the farm. Every meal's a banquet! Every paycheck a fortune! Every formation a parade! I LOVE the Corps! "
Oh man, our Shadowrun RPG sessions. The quotes from Aliens and Predator were raining from the sky.
My dad used to wake me up with that quote when we had to do some kind of home maintenance on the weekend.
It's still an awesome quote, but I no longer have the fondness for it I once did.
I never understood why Alien 3 got so much flak. Ok, that's not true, it gives the previous movie the finger and is nihilistic as fuck but goddamn is it entertaining. Alien is still my personal favorite but Alien 3 is a close second primarily because it goes back to the series' suspenseful roots. I also thought that Alien 3 overall had more interesting cinematography and superior sound mixing compared to Aliens. The chase scene from the alien's viewpoint at the end is fuckin BITCHIN. And Dylan's "God will take care of you now, sister...pour the lead" followed by a "oh, fuck you" is one of my all time favorite movie scenes. Sure the movie had its flaws but Fincher had a lot of really great ideas. If anything, it's nihilistic tone seems appropriate considering how the awesomeness of the previous two movies almost negates the necessity for a sequel. When all is said and done, both Alien 3 and Alien are suspense slasher movies only alien 3 is hopeless as fuck.
Personally, I think alien, aliens, and alien 3 are all around the same level. Alien 3 is the most flawed to be sure, but I love it anyway.
Also, yes, predator is indeed the manliest movie ever made. "GET TO THE CHOPPA!"
My biggest gripe is the Hicks/Newt thing. If Hicks had survived the third movie to "Tell the Story" so to speak it would have been 100% better. They could have killed Newt perhaps, but killing Hicks was just stupid.
Originally Brandywine Productions was approached by 20th Century Fox to create two more sequels. After going through several ideas, David Giler and Walter Hill, the film series producers, "settled upon a complex two-part story that offered the underhanded Weyland-Yutani Corporation facing off with a militarily aggressive culture of humans whose rigid socialist ideology has caused them to separate from Earth's society."[7] Sigourney Weaver (Ripley) would only make a cameo appearance in the third film, with the lead role going to Michael Biehn's Corporal Hicks from Aliens. Alien 4 would see the return of Ripley "in an epic battle with alien warriors mass produced by the expatriated Earthlings." Weaver in particular liked the Cold War metaphor and agreed to the smaller role.
When filming the scene with Newt in the duct, Carrie Henn kept deliberately blowing her scene so she could slide down the vent, which she later called a slide three stories tall. James Cameron finally dissuaded her by saying that if she completed the shot, she could play on it as much as she wanted. She did, and he kept his promise.
I find this incredibly amusing
Watch the Aliens commentary, it's got some fun bits and the actors all hang out and shoot the shit with one another. Carrie Henn comments that this was the only role she ever acted in, and that her friends, to this day, will still repeat the "Mostly come out at night, mostly" bit to her at random moments. (fake edit: according to someone else it was through high school, but I could swear she said they still do it to her)
Also, is there a place i can get the Colonial Marines Technical manual for cheap?
Good fucking luck. I had to lay in wait on Ebay for years, checking every so often, until I was able to ambush one that was just hanging around at half the price of the rest.
Anyway, while I respect Alien on many forms, I have to admit that Aliens is one of my all time favourite films. There's a reason I usually end up watching it at least once or twice a year (especially around Halloween, which has become something of a tradition), and that it's the only movie I've ever bought directly off Itunes for my iphone.
Hell, I think I might just have to watch the second half today at the gym.
As noted, it's just a gold mine of awesome quotes, has some damned fine action, and in my opinion is among 4 (non-anime) movies that have ever done power armour well (for those curious: Aliens, District 9, Avatar and Iron Man).
A major gripe I have with Alien 3 is WHERE ARE THE FREAKING GUNS AND EXPLOSIONS OF DEATH.
I blame Sigourney Weaver. Why did she sign up for these sequels??
Funny thing, Sigourney Weaver hates guns. According to the "making of" stuff on the Aliens dvd, she was put off by all the firepower in the film, but was then taught to shoot as part of her training for the role, and admitted that she kind of enjoyed it.
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I'm another one of those weird people who really like Alien 3, both in the version they showed at cinemas and in the Director's Cut. I like its elegiac tone, I like the fact that it's not about big fucking guns, and it makes for a perfect ending to Ripley's story. Her acting in the series is probably best in the Newt obduction scene. Yes, the SFX are bad, yes, it's nihilistic, but I prefer it to Aliens. The latter is one of the coolest action flicks I know, but all in all I take dark, moody, brilliantly acted character pieces over action.
(You may even catch me admitting that I don't particularly like Bill "Game over, man!" Paxton.)
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I'm another one of those weird people who really like Alien 3, both in the version they showed at cinemas and in the Director's Cut. I like its elegiac tone, I like the fact that it's not about big fucking guns, and it makes for a perfect ending to Ripley's story. Her acting in the series is probably best in the Newt obduction scene. Yes, the SFX are bad, yes, it's nihilistic, but I prefer it to Aliens. The latter is one of the coolest action flicks I know, but all in all I take dark, moody, brilliantly acted character pieces over action.
(You may even catch me admitting that I don't particularly like Bill "Game over, man!" Paxton.)
I tend to agree. The Aliens universe is basically unforgiving; I like stripping plot immunity from the main characters.
I just can't accept the plot hole. There is no way two alien eggs made it on board the Sulaco. It can't be done. I've seen Aliens like, ten million times and it just can't be done. The queen would have to have both of them on her person, then when she's briefly off screen throw both eggs into a ventilation duct or something and have them roll to where they're seen in the beginning of Alien 3.
I agree that Aliens 3 got a bit of a bad rap, most people appear to hate it just because Newt and Hicks got killed off, overall when you look at what the film was it went back to the original Alien movie pretty good with it's own unique take, the Directors Cut especially makes the film much better.
As for Aliens Ressurection, I have some fondness for that movie since it was the first movie I ever got to see in a theatre when I went to college. It was either that or that god awful Mortal Kombat sequel.
I agree that Aliens 3 got a bit of a bad rap, most people appear to hate it just because Newt and Hicks got killed off, overall when you look at what the film was it went back to the original Alien movie pretty good with it's own unique take, the Directors Cut especially makes the film much better.
As for Aliens Ressurection, I have some fondness for that movie since it was the first movie I ever got to see in a theatre when I went to college. It was either that or that god awful Mortal Kombat sequel.
Alien 3 got a bad rap because it was fucking horrible, especially compared to what it could have been.
Originally Brandywine Productions was approached by 20th Century Fox to create two more sequels. After going through several ideas, David Giler and Walter Hill, the film series producers, "settled upon a complex two-part story that offered the underhanded Weyland-Yutani Corporation facing off with a militarily aggressive culture of humans whose rigid socialist ideology has caused them to separate from Earth's society." Sigourney Weaver (Ripley) would only make a cameo appearance in the third film, with the lead role going to Michael Biehn's Corporal Hicks from Aliens. Alien 4 would see the return of Ripley "in an epic battle with alien warriors mass produced by the expatriated Earthlings." Weaver in particular liked the Cold War metaphor and agreed to the smaller role.
And they fucked David Fincher in the ass by re-cutting the whole thing after he was done, and releasing a trailer that implied the whole thing would take place on Earth.
To be fair, Fincher knowingly walked into a fucked situation. Yes, it got fucked further, but he knew what he was doing at first. After getting fucked with for so long, he basically abandoned the thing. Fox, with Terry Rawlings (the guy who edited ALIEN for Ridley Scott) smoothed as much of it out as they could and released a very flawed film into theaters in 92.
And the "Earth" trailer was cut before Fincher was on board fully, if I remember right. The trailers released once Fincher actually took the chair were all "The Bitch is Back" featuring the shot of bald ripley getting fronted by the slime-alien.
I've found the ALIEN 3 hate has dissipated over time, become a lot less knee-jerk. The Quad set really helped out in that regard, and honestly, that assembly cut that's on the disc should have NEVER happened. That's solely because of Charlie DeLauzirika, the DVD producer. In fact, I believe the set came about simply because he managed to figure out a way to get that cut re-assembled.
When filming the scene with Newt in the duct, Carrie Henn kept deliberately blowing her scene so she could slide down the vent, which she later called a slide three stories tall. James Cameron finally dissuaded her by saying that if she completed the shot, she could play on it as much as she wanted. She did, and he kept his promise.
I find this incredibly amusing
Watch the Aliens commentary, it's got some fun bits and the actors all hang out and shoot the shit with one another. Carrie Henn comments that this was the only role she ever acted in, and that her friends, to this day, will still repeat the "Mostly come out at night, mostly" bit to her at random moments. (fake edit: according to someone else it was through high school, but I could swear she said they still do it to her)
Also, is there a place i can get the Colonial Marines Technical manual for cheap?
Good fucking luck. I had to lay in wait on Ebay for years, checking every so often, until I was able to ambush one that was just hanging around at half the price of the rest.
Anyway, while I respect Alien on many forms, I have to admit that Aliens is one of my all time favourite films. There's a reason I usually end up watching it at least once or twice a year (especially around Halloween, which has become something of a tradition), and that it's the only movie I've ever bought directly off Itunes for my iphone.
Hell, I think I might just have to watch the second half today at the gym.
As noted, it's just a gold mine of awesome quotes, has some damned fine action, and in my opinion is among 4 (non-anime) movies that have ever done power armour well (for those curious: Aliens, District 9, Avatar and Iron Man).
A major gripe I have with Alien 3 is WHERE ARE THE FREAKING GUNS AND EXPLOSIONS OF DEATH.
I blame Sigourney Weaver. Why did she sign up for these sequels??
Funny thing, Sigourney Weaver hates guns. According to the "making of" stuff on the Aliens dvd, she was put off by all the firepower in the film, but was then taught to shoot as part of her training for the role, and admitted that she kind of enjoyed it.
What is this Colonial Marines Technical manual and where did it come from?
Aliens: Colonial Marines Technical Manual, written by Lee Brimmicombe-Wood and published by HarperPrism is a guide to the fictional United States Colonial Marines depicted in the film Aliens. It describes the equipment of the Colonial Marines in great detail, and contains expansive descriptions of the UD4L Cheyenne and the 'Conestoga'-class spaceships (such as the Sulaco), both featured in the film.
The manual also contains information about the organisation of the Colonial Marines, and while it attempts to stay faithful to the films it adds and expands upon a number of topics not depicted in the film, such as artillery and tanks. Often these are also commented on in-character by fictional Colonial Marines. The manual ends with a fictional series of transcripts between Weyland-Yutani employees as they discuss their theories on Alien biology and its possible exploitation.
In my experience, it's extremely hard to find and if you try Ebay or other online sellers, well, be prepared to get bent over a barrel and think of England. YMMV, but anything less than $50 may well be a steal for a good condition copy. Finding it for less than $80-100 on Ebay can be a Herculean task itself.
Mine sits proudly on my bookshelf next to the Next Generation Technical Manual.
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Really, a new sequel could be made for Aliens any time post Resurrection. The unanswered question to my knowledge is the ship from the first film, with the large dead humanoid, clearly killed by a chestburster. That means these aliens came from somewhere, not the planet from Alien and Aliens. The Humans, and Weyland-Yutani just don't know where the origin was - so it was easier to try to get a queen from Ripley in Alien 3 since LV-426 went nuclear. And still, they probably looked around after that, and eventually figured cloning her to get another queen was a cheaper and quicker option.
Aliens: Colonial Marines Technical Manual, written by Lee Brimmicombe-Wood and published by HarperPrism is a guide to the fictional United States Colonial Marines depicted in the film Aliens. It describes the equipment of the Colonial Marines in great detail, and contains expansive descriptions of the UD4L Cheyenne and the 'Conestoga'-class spaceships (such as the Sulaco), both featured in the film.
The manual also contains information about the organisation of the Colonial Marines, and while it attempts to stay faithful to the films it adds and expands upon a number of topics not depicted in the film, such as artillery and tanks. Often these are also commented on in-character by fictional Colonial Marines. The manual ends with a fictional series of transcripts between Weyland-Yutani employees as they discuss their theories on Alien biology and its possible exploitation.
In my experience, it's extremely hard to find and if you try Ebay or other online sellers, well, be prepared to get bent over a barrel and think of England. YMMV, but anything less than $50 may well be a steal for a good condition copy. Finding it for less than $80-100 on Ebay can be a Herculean task itself.
Mine sits proudly on my bookshelf next to the Next Generation Technical Manual.
Well, to be fair, we don't know for certain that the original ship was actually destroyed in the explosion. It might've been out of the blast range, and while the radiation would make a huge area dangerous for god knows how long, somehow I suspect the xenomorph eggs would be just fine if they weren't already obliterated.
Something just occurred to me; in the director's cut, we see (I believe) Newt's father with a facehugger on him.
However, in the Lab they have at least 3; 2 alive, 1 dead, one of which was removed from a victim pre-implantation, though the victim died as a result. Where did the other 2 come from? It doesn't seem likely that Newt's dad managed to load 2 into a cargo space without triggering them... which leads me to believe that at least one more team was sent out to check the area, and met with a similar fate. Which, while not unfeasible, shows that the colonists really, really failed at recognizing a danger while it was [strike]raping them in the[/strike] facing them.
Well, to be fair, we don't know for certain that the original ship was actually destroyed in the explosion. It might've been out of the blast range, and while the radiation would make a huge area dangerous for god knows how long, somehow I suspect the xenomorph eggs would be just fine if they weren't already obliterated.
Something just occurred to me; in the director's cut, we see (I believe) Newt's father with a facehugger on him.
However, in the Lab they have at least 3; 2 alive, 1 dead, one of which was removed from a victim pre-implantation, though the victim died as a result. Where did the other 2 come from? It doesn't seem likely that Newt's dad managed to load 2 into a cargo space without triggering them... which leads me to believe that at least one more team was sent out to check the area, and met with a similar fate. Which, while not unfeasible, shows that the colonists really, really failed at recognizing a danger while it was [strike]raping them in the[/strike] facing them.
Or they managed to trap a couple of them after the Queen started pumping them out locally, before the place was completely overrun.
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Director's cut for both.
@ Peter Ebel
Wholly agree with the above.
Also, Full Disclosure: With regards to the other Alien movies, I'm one of those jackasses who ignores anything after Aliens. Because seriously in my opinion shit went downhill after that.
Dillon: Why? Why are the innocent punished? Why the sacrifice? Why the pain? There aren't any promises. Nothing certain. Only that some get called, some get saved. She won't ever know the hardship and grief for those of us left behind. We commit these bodies to the void with a glad heart. For within each seed, there is a promise of a flower, and within each death, no matter how small, there's always a new life. A new beginning. Amen.
I LOVE the 'director's cut' of Alien 3 in the 'quadrillogy' where they juxtapose the line "for within each seed, there is a promise of a flower..." with the alien bursting out of the cow belly. Hell, I just love the 'director's cut' version.
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No, there were still humans whining in AVP:R. Manny has it right. Just Aliens one one side and Predators on the other and then mash them together like you used to do with your Optimus Prime and Megatron toys (or, if you were po', Cykill and Leader-1) for 90 minutes. No humans. No whining. No rock music. No urf. Just *whooom* *whap-poooh* *bish* "SCREEEEEEEEEEE"
You gotta see Deperado. If for no more reason than Salma Hayek's boobies.
Yeah, it should have been easy. It kinda writes itself, Aliens, Predators, 2 hours of non stop carnage.
But no.... they had to have a plot. :?
And don't forget "All of the humans are total pussies and will fail to even die in an amusing manner"
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All I can think of is some greedy asshat going "How can we make the kids spend more money on two dormant franchises??? We have the monster of each franchise punch each other!" And then they make a lot of money and it saddens me.
There is no need to mix and match the two series when they are so awesome on their own already
:^:
At least AvP: Requiem kind of fixed that. It was still a crappy movie though.
As much as I like the AvP video games and the idea of a "who's the better badass" battle, I'm going to have to agree with this. When the Alien skull showed up in the Pred ship in Predator 2, you bet your ass that there were studio suits somewhere thinking "moneymoneymoneymoneymoney".
I'm still going to buy the new AvP game when it comes out though.
It doesn't have to be who's the better bad ass. It just has to be a bunch of predators running around an alien den fighting hordes of aliens. Hell they can all die in the end and nobody would care.
Personally, I think alien, aliens, and alien 3 are all around the same level. Alien 3 is the most flawed to be sure, but I love it anyway.
Also, yes, predator is indeed the manliest movie ever made. "GET TO THE CHOPPA!"
I just love the setting... That Gritty space thing.
Also, is there a place i can get the Colonial Marines Technical manual for cheap?
it was just wrong
That and the plasma cannon sound changed from an awesome whiplash sound to this wimpy, high pitched, "pew pew"
that is also just wrong
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Which one actually beat the Predator in melee combat? Yeah, that's right.
Oh man, our Shadowrun RPG sessions. The quotes from Aliens and Predator were raining from the sky.
My dad used to wake me up with that quote when we had to do some kind of home maintenance on the weekend.
It's still an awesome quote, but I no longer have the fondness for it I once did.
My biggest gripe is the Hicks/Newt thing. If Hicks had survived the third movie to "Tell the Story" so to speak it would have been 100% better. They could have killed Newt perhaps, but killing Hicks was just stupid.
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I blame Sigourney Weaver. Why did she sign up for these sequels??
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Watch the Aliens commentary, it's got some fun bits and the actors all hang out and shoot the shit with one another. Carrie Henn comments that this was the only role she ever acted in, and that her friends, to this day, will still repeat the "Mostly come out at night, mostly" bit to her at random moments. (fake edit: according to someone else it was through high school, but I could swear she said they still do it to her)
Good fucking luck. I had to lay in wait on Ebay for years, checking every so often, until I was able to ambush one that was just hanging around at half the price of the rest.
Anyway, while I respect Alien on many forms, I have to admit that Aliens is one of my all time favourite films. There's a reason I usually end up watching it at least once or twice a year (especially around Halloween, which has become something of a tradition), and that it's the only movie I've ever bought directly off Itunes for my iphone.
Hell, I think I might just have to watch the second half today at the gym.
As noted, it's just a gold mine of awesome quotes, has some damned fine action, and in my opinion is among 4 (non-anime) movies that have ever done power armour well (for those curious: Aliens, District 9, Avatar and Iron Man).
Funny thing, Sigourney Weaver hates guns. According to the "making of" stuff on the Aliens dvd, she was put off by all the firepower in the film, but was then taught to shoot as part of her training for the role, and admitted that she kind of enjoyed it.
(You may even catch me admitting that I don't particularly like Bill "Game over, man!" Paxton.)
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
I tend to agree. The Aliens universe is basically unforgiving; I like stripping plot immunity from the main characters.
I just can't accept the plot hole. There is no way two alien eggs made it on board the Sulaco. It can't be done. I've seen Aliens like, ten million times and it just can't be done. The queen would have to have both of them on her person, then when she's briefly off screen throw both eggs into a ventilation duct or something and have them roll to where they're seen in the beginning of Alien 3.
As for Aliens Ressurection, I have some fondness for that movie since it was the first movie I ever got to see in a theatre when I went to college. It was either that or that god awful Mortal Kombat sequel.
And they fucked David Fincher in the ass by re-cutting the whole thing after he was done, and releasing a trailer that implied the whole thing would take place on Earth.
And the "Earth" trailer was cut before Fincher was on board fully, if I remember right. The trailers released once Fincher actually took the chair were all "The Bitch is Back" featuring the shot of bald ripley getting fronted by the slime-alien.
I've found the ALIEN 3 hate has dissipated over time, become a lot less knee-jerk. The Quad set really helped out in that regard, and honestly, that assembly cut that's on the disc should have NEVER happened. That's solely because of Charlie DeLauzirika, the DVD producer. In fact, I believe the set came about simply because he managed to figure out a way to get that cut re-assembled.
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What is this Colonial Marines Technical manual and where did it come from?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliens:_Colonial_Marines_Technical_Manual
In my experience, it's extremely hard to find and if you try Ebay or other online sellers, well, be prepared to get bent over a barrel and think of England. YMMV, but anything less than $50 may well be a steal for a good condition copy. Finding it for less than $80-100 on Ebay can be a Herculean task itself.
Mine sits proudly on my bookshelf next to the Next Generation Technical Manual.
Amazon has them used for $40-$60
Something just occurred to me; in the director's cut, we see (I believe) Newt's father with a facehugger on him.
However, in the Lab they have at least 3; 2 alive, 1 dead, one of which was removed from a victim pre-implantation, though the victim died as a result. Where did the other 2 come from? It doesn't seem likely that Newt's dad managed to load 2 into a cargo space without triggering them... which leads me to believe that at least one more team was sent out to check the area, and met with a similar fate. Which, while not unfeasible, shows that the colonists really, really failed at recognizing a danger while it was [strike]raping them in the[/strike] facing them.
Good to know. Last time I looked, some silly goose wanted $120 plus shipping for it. I guess some significantly more reasonable sellers showed up.
According to the Wiki, it was printed back in 1996, and I don't know if it was ever reprinted.
Which is weird, as with all the games and movies and whatnot, it seems like a pretty straightforward way to make some cash with a pre-existing tie-in.
I remember having it in my hands... Why didn't I buy it??
*punches nuts*