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  • KrisKris Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Vega makes me rage so hard. I just can not beat that fucker. I have probably been perfected by so many Vegas. No other character does this to me. But I can't touch that stupid yodeling son of a gun.

    I hear ya man. My guile feels so helpless against all of vega's shenanigans.

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  • Hiryu02Hiryu02 Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Don't be defensive against Vega. When he pops off the wall jump back and hp/hk. Pressure him with slow booms and follow them in. If he flips away on wakeup just follow directly and throw.

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    Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
  • KelorKelor Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    If it makes you feel better guys, my Vega wins maybe 1 game in every four to Blanka online. And that one is usually the terrible one.

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  • AntihippyAntihippy Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Kris wrote: »
    Vega makes me rage so hard. I just can not beat that fucker. I have probably been perfected by so many Vegas. No other character does this to me. But I can't touch that stupid yodeling son of a gun.

    I hear ya man. My guile feels so helpless against all of vega's shenanigans.

    I think for guile shouldn't cr. HP and airthrow destory most of his air options?

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  • BarrabasBarrabas Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Kris wrote: »
    Vega makes me rage so hard. I just can not beat that fucker. I have probably been perfected by so many Vegas. No other character does this to me. But I can't touch that stupid yodeling son of a gun.

    I hear ya man. My guile feels so helpless against all of vega's shenanigans.

    Did you say you were having trouble with Bison's head stomp a while back (too lazy to look)? Are you holding down-back a lot? If so, I suggest try holding just back ... at least for those two fights. As you move back it will make it so Bison's head stomps whiff and Vega can't Izuna drop you. You'll have to be more careful about their slide kicks if you're used to down-back. Other than that Vega doesn't really have anything he can do to you. Bison can still apply one hell of a pressure game though.

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  • aBlankaBlank Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Barrabas wrote: »
    Kris wrote: »
    Vega makes me rage so hard. I just can not beat that fucker. I have probably been perfected by so many Vegas. No other character does this to me. But I can't touch that stupid yodeling son of a gun.

    I hear ya man. My guile feels so helpless against all of vega's shenanigans.

    Did you say you were having trouble with Bison's head stomp a while back (too lazy to look)? Are you holding down-back a lot? If so, I suggest try holding just back ... at least for those two fights. As you move back it will make it so Bison's head stomps whiff and Vega can't Izuna drop you. You'll have to be more careful about their slide kicks if you're used to down-back. Other than that Vega doesn't really have anything he can do to you. Bison can still apply one hell of a pressure game though.

    Vega can still izuna drop you even if you're walking backwards. He can even catch backdash's unless you're in the invincibility frames (very hard to time but possible).

    I'm not sure if Guile has this property, but a lot of focus attacks fuck with your hit box and can make it hard to land an izuna. A pretty safe option is to simply focus attack then dash. You'll be in time to punish IIRC with a throw. I recall izuna dropping Sakura out of a FA is god damn near impossible... akuma is also surprisingly hard since he leans back a lot... not sure if guile's box changes enough.

    Slow boom and follow all day long beats Vega. You can also meet him in the air with air throws/j.RH. Your air throw range beats his, so just make sure you're faster with it. You can also apply ridiculous wake up pressure on a knockdown. Meaty cr.mk -> target combo is practically made for this shit. If he flips you won't get the target combo (requires block/hit stun) and can dash throw or whatever.

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  • FrosteeyFrosteey Elaise 1521-2945-8940Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Kelor wrote: »
    If it makes you feel better guys, my Vega wins maybe 1 game in every four to Blanka online. And that one is usually the terrible one.

    That is like my regular win percentage against Blanka. I'm not sure I've ever beaten him with Vega : (

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  • KrisKris Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Let it be known, Hiryu is a good teacher. Thanks again sir. :D

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  • Hiryu02Hiryu02 Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Kris wrote: »
    Let it be known, Hiryu is a good teacher. Thanks again sir. :D

    No problem man, just let me know whenever you need to get some training matches in. GG's.

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    Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
  • shadydentistshadydentist Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Man, we should do another PC fight night.

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  • rakuenCallistorakuenCallisto Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2010
    Man, we should do another PC fight night.
    This.

    I've worked on my Akuma considerably since the last fight night.

    Hell, I even think my main then was Gouken till I changed it up.

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  • FuriousJodoFuriousJodo Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
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  • StokedUpStokedUp Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Here's my matches from last weeks Tournament Wars (Jan 23rd - Not the singles tourney, the league thingy)

    ~snip 3 awesome matches~

    Very nice. I enjoyed those rsf loops but was there a reason you didnt do a reset or mixup after that down fierce?

    Anyway, very impressed with your performance.

    Hopefully I get my xbox sometime before super comes out. ha

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  • RanadielRanadiel Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Since this is an all things Street Fighter thread now, I thought I would mention that I forced myself to watch The Legend of Chun Li last night now that it's on cable.

    And I had to really force myself to watch it because of how god-awful it was. Everything about this movie is just wrong. I swear they must have made the movie first, realized it'd be horrible, then changed the character names to reflect Street Fighter characters and threw in Vega as a last ditch effort to link it to a well known franchise as a money grab.

    It actually made me nostalgic for the first SF movie.

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  • rakuenCallistorakuenCallisto Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2010
    Ranadiel wrote: »
    Since this is an all things Street Fighter thread now, I thought I would mention that I forced myself to watch The Legend of Chun Li last night now that it's on cable.

    And I had to really force myself to watch it because of how god-awful it was. Everything about this movie is just wrong. I swear they must have made the movie first, realized it'd be horrible, then changed the character names to reflect Street Fighter characters and threw in Vega as a last ditch effort to link it to a well known franchise as a money grab.

    It actually made me nostalgic for the first SF movie.

    Yea it's... pretty bad when no one can make a decent fighting movie, especially when the storyline/plot has already been made out for several years. The screenwriter just needs to like.. copy and you have a great movie.

    I'm not even going to get started on the King of Fighters film..

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  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I watched the first SF movie and actually liked it for its entertaining goofiness. Didn't see Legend of Chun-Li, but from the trailer, it looked to be actually trying to take itself seriously as some sort of crime drama.

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  • RanadielRanadiel Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Ranadiel wrote: »
    Since this is an all things Street Fighter thread now, I thought I would mention that I forced myself to watch The Legend of Chun Li last night now that it's on cable.

    And I had to really force myself to watch it because of how god-awful it was. Everything about this movie is just wrong. I swear they must have made the movie first, realized it'd be horrible, then changed the character names to reflect Street Fighter characters and threw in Vega as a last ditch effort to link it to a well known franchise as a money grab.

    It actually made me nostalgic for the first SF movie.

    Yea it's... pretty bad when no one can make a decent fighting movie, especially when the storyline/plot has already been made out for several years. The screenwriter just needs to like.. copy and you have a great movie.

    I'm not even going to get started on the King of Fighters film..

    Didn't they make a DOA movie that no one saw? And wasn't a Tekken movie released - or about to be released?

    I really didn't understand the changes made to the Chun Li flick. Would it really have been so hard to get the old guy from Kill Bill 2 to play Gen instead of Lui Kang from Mortal Kombat? plus he lacked Gen's trademark beard/stache combo! And Gen can't throw fireballs alsdkhasdfkRRRRRRAAAAAAAAGEE!!!!
    SabreMau wrote:
    I watched the first SF movie and actually liked it for its entertaining goofiness. Didn't see Legend of Chun-Li, but from the trailer, it looked to be actually trying to take itself seriously as some sort of crime drama.

    This was about the one entertaining thing about the movie is how serious all the actors, especially Kristen Kruek, seem to take it. The script is so awful, the dialogue is terrible and the plot is so absurd that you can't help wonder how anyone could possibly greenlight the thing, or how anyone at Capcom would approve of lending their brand to it.

    The sad thing is, I could imagine it as a serious crime drama; this film's execution was just terrible. The idea of a terrorist leader being pursued by multiple world organizations is being paralleled in real life right now - the only thing that'd require suspension of disbelief is how the actual Street Fighter tournament fits into a realistic plot.

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  • SivrajSivraj Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Man, we should do another PC fight night.
    This.

    I've worked on my Akuma considerably since the last fight night.

    Hell, I even think my main then was Gouken till I changed it up.

    I agree.

    I actually have a PC (and SFIV) to play this time!

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Ranadiel wrote: »
    Ranadiel wrote: »
    Since this is an all things Street Fighter thread now, I thought I would mention that I forced myself to watch The Legend of Chun Li last night now that it's on cable.

    And I had to really force myself to watch it because of how god-awful it was. Everything about this movie is just wrong. I swear they must have made the movie first, realized it'd be horrible, then changed the character names to reflect Street Fighter characters and threw in Vega as a last ditch effort to link it to a well known franchise as a money grab.

    It actually made me nostalgic for the first SF movie.

    Yea it's... pretty bad when no one can make a decent fighting movie, especially when the storyline/plot has already been made out for several years. The screenwriter just needs to like.. copy and you have a great movie.

    I'm not even going to get started on the King of Fighters film..

    Didn't they make a DOA movie that no one saw? And wasn't a Tekken movie released - or about to be released?

    I really didn't understand the changes made to the Chun Li flick. Would it really have been so hard to get the old guy from Kill Bill 2 to play Gen instead of Lui Kang from Mortal Kombat? plus he lacked Gen's trademark beard/stache combo! And Gen can't throw fireballs alsdkhasdfkRRRRRRAAAAAAAAGEE!!!!

    I could literally go on for days about what was wrong with that movie, but I won't. That's too easy. I will instead compliment the one thing they managed to do; make the original SF movie look good by comparison.

    Yeah, that might have been tough.

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  • SamSam Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    He's talking about Gordon Liu, who isn't old. He donned a bunch of make up to play Pai Mei.

    And I don't understand why you're bitching about a fighting game movie. No one cares...especially given that Street Fighter has plenty of anime films, so you could just watch those and pretend the live action ones don't exist, which they pretty much don't seeing as street fighter fans are more likely to watch the anime and everyone else doesn't give a shit.

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  • chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Sivraj wrote: »
    Man, we should do another PC fight night.
    This.

    I've worked on my Akuma considerably since the last fight night.

    Hell, I even think my main then was Gouken till I changed it up.

    I agree.

    I actually have a PC (and SFIV) to play this time!

    I'd be down for it this time as well, assuming I can get a good connection with anyone.

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  • solsovlysolsovly Registered User regular
    edited January 2010

    Awesome matches. Your RSF is getting really consistent in your new videos. Is dash slide safe on block from max distance? I don't see very many punishes.

    Also, do you alter your timing for RSF on Ryu/smaller chars? I see to have alot of problems getting x3 loops on him.

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  • rakuenCallistorakuenCallisto Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2010
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    Yeah, that might have been tough.
    Oh shit...

    This is crazy news.

    I didn't know he died.

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  • RanadielRanadiel Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Sam wrote: »
    He's talking about Gordon Liu, who isn't old. He donned a bunch of make up to play Pai Mei.

    And I don't understand why you're bitching about a fighting game movie. No one cares...especially given that Street Fighter has plenty of anime films, so you could just watch those and pretend the live action ones don't exist, which they pretty much don't seeing as street fighter fans are more likely to watch the anime and everyone else doesn't give a shit.

    Yeah, I was referring to Gordon Liu, not David Carradine.

    I guess the reason why I'm irritated is that it shouldn't be hard to make a live-action Street Fighter film, since it has an established story and characters, and it amazes me that the best attempt was made in 1994 and had Jean-Claude Van Damme as fucking Guile.

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  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    Yeah, that might have been tough.

    Not really, as the movie's release date predated his death by over three months. The movie's filming schedule, even more.
    Ranadiel wrote: »
    Street Fighter
    has an established story
    Such as it is.

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  • RanadielRanadiel Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Wow, I didn't realize how financially successful the original Street Fighter movie really was. They filmed on a $35 million budget and the movie raked in about $100 mil worldwide. Legend of Chun Li however filmed on a $50 mil budget and only made about $12 mil worldwide. Damn.

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  • SamSam Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Ranadiel wrote: »
    Wow, I didn't realize how financially successful the original Street Fighter movie really was. They filmed on a $35 million budget and the movie raked in about $100 mil worldwide. Legend of Chun Li however filmed on a $50 mil budget and only made about $12 mil worldwide. Damn.

    SF used to be pretty culturally significant for a game

    It was probably like, second to Mario or something

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  • rakuenCallistorakuenCallisto Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2010
    Sam wrote: »
    SF used to be pretty culturally significant for a game

    It was probably like, second to Mario or something
    I mean even the Mario movie was so far fetched from the actual mario, yet they made it work.

    That movie was actually kinda entertaining.

    Why must they screw up all video game movies?

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  • Mmmm... Cocks...Mmmm... Cocks... Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Sam wrote: »
    Ranadiel wrote: »
    Wow, I didn't realize how financially successful the original Street Fighter movie really was. They filmed on a $35 million budget and the movie raked in about $100 mil worldwide. Legend of Chun Li however filmed on a $50 mil budget and only made about $12 mil worldwide. Damn.

    SF used to be pretty culturally significant for a game

    It was probably like, second to Mario or something
    You know what sucks? I dunno how true the above really is, but I've played 2D fighters for damned near forever. And I've never met one person in my life that plays Street Fighter (outside of the occasional convention I've been to) or that I haven't taught myself, which never really gets past just learning moves.

    Two of my very close friends are quite good now though, but that's mainly because we all have 4 to play online now. We're all clearly horrible still because we've never had any real place for competition, ever.

    The point though, is despite how nearly everyone knows Street Fighter, I've never even met someone who can throw a hadoken without me giving them a 5 minute tutorial on what a quarter circle is. I hate my state.

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  • FuriousJodoFuriousJodo Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    StokedUp wrote: »
    Here's my matches from last weeks Tournament Wars (Jan 23rd - Not the singles tourney, the league thingy)

    ~snip 3 awesome matches~

    Very nice. I enjoyed those rsf loops but was there a reason you didnt do a reset or mixup after that down fierce?

    Anyway, very impressed with your performance.

    Hopefully I get my xbox sometime before super comes out. ha

    Hah, it wasn't on purpose, though lately I've been finding a down fierce is somewhat safe to end a loop with, though really I'd prefer a slide or a splash to kind of reset things.

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  • Hiryu02Hiryu02 Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    The new Tekken movie looks like it could be decent in a low-budget way. They call it Iton Fist and whatnot, but hey, at least Jin is Asian and the characters have the correct names and outfits.

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    Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
  • rakuenCallistorakuenCallisto Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2010
    You know what sucks? I dunno how true the above really is, but I've played 2D fighters for damned near forever. And I've never met one person in my life that plays Street Fighter (outside of the occasional convention I've been to) or that I haven't taught myself, which never really gets past just learning moves.

    Two of my very close friends are quite good now though, but that's mainly because we all have 4 to play online now. We're all clearly horrible still because we've never had any real place for competition, ever.

    The point though, is despite how nearly everyone knows Street Fighter, I've never even met someone who can throw a hadoken without me giving them a 5 minute tutorial on what a quarter circle is. I hate my state.
    lawl yea everyone knows about street fighter but never know the most basic fighting move ever.

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  • Mmmm... Cocks...Mmmm... Cocks... Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    So anyway, I'm trying to get in on this PC tournament to.
    I've not played nearly enough of this game.

    Edit: or rather fight night, or whatever. I just wanna fight some streets mang.

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  • psychotixpsychotix __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2010
    Sam wrote: »
    Ranadiel wrote: »
    Wow, I didn't realize how financially successful the original Street Fighter movie really was. They filmed on a $35 million budget and the movie raked in about $100 mil worldwide. Legend of Chun Li however filmed on a $50 mil budget and only made about $12 mil worldwide. Damn.

    SF used to be pretty culturally significant for a game

    It was probably like, second to Mario or something
    You know what sucks? I dunno how true the above really is, but I've played 2D fighters for damned near forever. And I've never met one person in my life that plays Street Fighter (outside of the occasional convention I've been to) or that I haven't taught myself, which never really gets past just learning moves.

    Two of my very close friends are quite good now though, but that's mainly because we all have 4 to play online now. We're all clearly horrible still because we've never had any real place for competition, ever.

    The point though, is despite how nearly everyone knows Street Fighter, I've never even met someone who can throw a hadoken without me giving them a 5 minute tutorial on what a quarter circle is. I hate my state.

    That's true of all games and all places. Outside of pockets of people that play one type of game nearly exclusively most people aren't that into them. And I'm sure everybody in this thread went through a state of just throwing hadokens and being stupid.

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  • rakuenCallistorakuenCallisto Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2010
    Who was the dude who started the last fight night? Was it dover?

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  • Mmmm... Cocks...Mmmm... Cocks... Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    psychotix wrote: »
    That's true of all games and all places. Outside of pockets of people that play one type of game nearly exclusively most people aren't that into them. And I'm sure everybody in this thread went through a state of just throwing hadokens and being stupid.
    It's just disheartening. Played all my life. Dated girls from different school districts in high school, hell I've gone to three different colleges. I consider myself to have an unhealthy amount of friends (or at least people that I've met) and not ever one person that knew how to hadoken?

    It's like some twilight zone crap where that guys glasses break.

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  • shadydentistshadydentist Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Hm, Buddies took charge of the PC tourney last time, but since I haven't seen him around I might as well organize this.

    What time would work best for everyone? Last time we did something like Saturday night at around 8 PM EST, but if another time would work better for people please let me know.

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  • RanadielRanadiel Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    While Street Fighter may have a canon that undergoes more changes than your average season of Dallas, it's still not so far-fetched as to be completely absurd in a live-action adaptation.

    I mean you've got a ruthless villain, obsessed with power and immortality, pursued by multiple international agencies, who runs a worldwide crim syndicate. Shadoloo has their hands in everything from arms dealing, weapons development and advanced scientific research - the last being it's most important as it is the present means as to which Bison increases his power and prolongs his life. He secretly runs the Street Fighter tournament as a front to attract would-be hosts with promises of world fame and riches, when in fact the winner is captured at the end and forced to become his newest vessel. Other noteworthy fighters are captured; their bodies experimented on, studied, or they are simply brainwashed into becoming Shadoloo agents. Eventually the world organizations realize the link between Shadoloo and the tournament, send in their own agents as a means to infiltrate and gather information and/or terminate Bison, which gets complicated when having to face off against the world's greatest fighters, all of which have their own motivations to win the tournament. Eventually it boils down to a confrontation in which Bison is defeated, the world saved, and Shadoloo seemingly destroyed or at least temporarily set back.

    THE END. WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO ADAPT?

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  • Mmmm... Cocks...Mmmm... Cocks... Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Hm, Buddies took charge of the PC tourney last time, but since I haven't seen him around I might as well organize this.

    What time would work best for everyone? Last time we did something like Saturday night at around 8 PM EST, but if another time would work better for people please let me know.
    This saturday is my birthday(well bar night anyway), and I'll be out all night.
    Nobody would want to do it during the week would they? Maybe a lazy sunday?
    Please? I love all of you?

    I've never seen either live action movie, if that's not the plot what is? I'm afraid of the answer.
    I've dabbled in a couple anime though. While Alpha was a horrible movie, it hit what I wanted it to hit (except the bad guy I guess). I just absolutly love what they did to Akuma in that movie. Making him like that in a game would be glorious.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    tbh fighting games are probably the least intuitive game genre there is. I think it's a wonder they're as popular as they are. There's nothing about the control scheme that makes sense and most people don't like having to deal with so much complex memorization just to figure out how to do their attacks. That's why Smash is such a huge success.

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