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  • a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Arzock wrote: »
    Arzock wrote: »
    What does the cerberus card do?

    Please answer my question.

    Also, is engi any good?

    Free DLC. Extra companion and an extra N7 mission, along with other stuff as time goes on.

    Edit: Quad beat'd. :P

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  • vsovevsove ....also yes. Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Kris_xK wrote: »
    Shooting Concussive Shot around corners and over cover is great. Using Pull and then hitting them with Concussive Shot is better.

    Companion Questions (Including last companion)
    Has anyone tried bringing along Legion when you do Tali's personal quest? Something special better happen.

    Every time I use biotics and then concussive shot, I like to shout 'PULL!' at the TV.

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  • DHSDHS Chase lizards.. ...bark at donkeys..Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    vsove wrote: »
    Kris_xK wrote: »
    Shooting Concussive Shot around corners and over cover is great. Using Pull and then hitting them with Concussive Shot is better.

    Companion Questions (Including last companion)
    Has anyone tried bringing along Legion when you do Tali's personal quest? Something special better happen.

    Every time I use biotics and then concussive shot, I like to shout 'PULL!' at the TV.

    You are literally the best person that has even been alive.

    DHS on
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  • JoolanderJoolander Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Jephery wrote: »
    Joolander wrote: »
    fellow Bestfiltrators:
    are you also getting like 1-2 seconds of slow-motion when you first bring up the sniper's scope? becaus I am and it is pretty friggin great
    I don't know why we're spoilering, but if you look at the infiltrator skill bonus you'll notice that sniper scope time dilation is one of your bonuses.


    we're spoilering because this is a super secret club that is exclusive and whatnot, you silly goose.


    also, i dunno how i missed it in the description

    Joolander on
  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Okay, I do have one gameplay annoyance with Concussive Shot. If I hold the LB and target it that way, it "seeks"...aka it can't miss unless they go behind cover. If I just tap LB to use it, I have to actually aim it, and it doesn't seek. It's completely minor and almost nit picky, but it did kind of annoy me last night.

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    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • SakeidoSakeido Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Jules wrote: »
    Garrus question:
    Does he ever fix his armor? Or does he walk around the rest of the game all busted up?

    I'll admit that I kind of like the Boba Fett "I earned these battle scars" look to his armor.

    Funny story: I went to pick up my preorder last night, and a really cute girl rang me up. She started talking about how great ME2 was, and told me how she's psyched about being able to romance Garrus in this game. She even laughed at my lame joke about "saving myself for Tali" when I told her that I skipped all of the romance options last game, having kicked the girls out of my room before Ilios.

    One of you needs to head over there and marry this girl. Now.
    Nope, armor never gets fixed. I did his personal quest thinking that his alt would be fully intact, but it is all busted up too..

    Garrus is a romance option? wow

    Sakeido on
  • Kris_xKKris_xK Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    vsove wrote: »
    Kris_xK wrote: »
    Shooting Concussive Shot around corners and over cover is great. Using Pull and then hitting them with Concussive Shot is better.

    Companion Questions (Including last companion)
    Has anyone tried bringing along Legion when you do Tali's personal quest? Something special better happen.

    Every time I use biotics and then concussive shot, I like to shout 'PULL!' at the TV.

    Hahahaha exactly.

    I think next playthrough I'm gonna get the AOE versions of pull and concussive shot, and then goto town in one of the Husk levels.

    Bodies will be everywhere.

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  • quarthinosquarthinos Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Jules wrote: »
    Garrus question:
    Does he ever fix his armor? Or does he walk around the rest of the game all busted up?

    I'll admit that I kind of like the Boba Fett "I earned these battle scars" look to his armor.
    I think even his loyalty armor is still broken. Just a different color.

    Speaking of which... Is anyone's extra costume not black?


    beaten :(

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  • SakeidoSakeido Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    What are all the romance options?
    I want to go look, but am too worried about spoiling things I do not mean to

    Sakeido on
  • JucJuc EdmontonRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Oh I have a beef about the game.

    When people complain that we dumbed things down for the console crowd / shooter crowd, or said we removed the RPG elements, they rarely elaborate on what they mean.

    RPG elements could mean damn near anything, and so can dumbing things down.

    The only things I've seen so far that people have really elaborated on is, they want to see the stats on things, they want to loot dead people for whatever(their teeth I guess), and they want more elaborate skill trees.

    But "RPG" can mean a hell of a lot more than that, so god knows what else people are upset about.
    It's actually a little frustrating that almost everybody has a different idea of what "RPG" means.

    Juc on
  • JulesJules Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Sakeido wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Garrus question:
    Does he ever fix his armor? Or does he walk around the rest of the game all busted up?

    I'll admit that I kind of like the Boba Fett "I earned these battle scars" look to his armor.

    Funny story:
    I went to pick up my preorder last night, and a really cute girl rang me up. She started talking about how great ME2 was, and told me how she's psyched about being able to romance Garrus in this game. She even laughed at my lame joke about "saving myself for Tali" when I told her that I skipped all of the romance options last game, having kicked the girls out of my room before Ilios.
    One of you needs to head over there and marry this girl. Now.
    Nope, armor never gets fixed. I did his personal quest thinking that his alt would be fully intact, but it is all busted up too..

    Garrus is a romance option? wow
    I play all male sheps, so I have no idea about Garrus personally. She seemed to think so though, I swear if I were 10 years younger and single...

    Anyways, no complaints about the armor here. The slightly-busted armor look is actually awesome, like Slave-1 and Boba Fett.

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  • JepheryJephery Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    They could have taken out all the leveling and equipment changing and left in the conversation options and the Paragon/Renegade stuff and I'd still call it an RPG.

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  • DVGDVG No. 1 Honor Student Nether Institute, Evil AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Juc wrote: »
    Oh I have a beef about the game.

    When people complain that we dumbed things down for the console crowd / shooter crowd, or said we removed the RPG elements, they rarely elaborate on what they mean.

    RPG elements could mean damn near anything, and so can dumbing things down.

    The only things I've seen so far that people have really elaborated on is, they want to see the stats on things, they want to loot dead people for whatever(their teeth I guess), and they want more elaborate skill trees.

    But "RPG" can mean a hell of a lot more than that, so god knows what else people are upset about.
    It's actually a little frustrating that almost everybody has a different idea of what "RPG" means.

    And Tabletop RPGers hate people calling things like Final Fantasy RPGs since you don't role-play at all. Whereas this game has lots of Role-playing in the different dialogue choices (It's, of course, still limited to a finite number of options, but still)

    DVG on
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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Juc wrote: »
    Oh I have a beef about the game.

    When people complain that we dumbed things down for the console crowd / shooter crowd, or said we removed the RPG elements, they rarely elaborate on what they mean.

    RPG elements could mean damn near anything, and so can dumbing things down.

    The only things I've seen so far that people have really elaborated on is, they want to see the stats on things, they want to loot dead people for whatever(their teeth I guess), and they want more elaborate skill trees.

    But "RPG" can mean a hell of a lot more than that, so god knows what else people are upset about.
    It's actually a little frustrating that almost everybody has a different idea of what "RPG" means.

    Do you work for BioWare or something? You're saying "we" a lot.

    And yes, my biggest gripe is that weapons don't have stats on them that I can numerically compare. It wouldn't be so bad if we could change weapons mid-mission, on the fly, like an FPS...but we can't. We have to play weapon locker double dutch to check out how different weapons operate.

    GnomeTank on
    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • jefe414jefe414 "My Other Drill Hole is a Teleporter" Mechagodzilla is Best GodzillaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Juc wrote: »
    Oh I have a beef about the game.

    When people complain that we dumbed things down for the console crowd / shooter crowd, or said we removed the RPG elements, they rarely elaborate on what they mean.

    RPG elements could mean damn near anything, and so can dumbing things down.

    The only things I've seen so far that people have really elaborated on is, they want to see the stats on things, they want to loot dead people for whatever(their teeth I guess), and they want more elaborate skill trees.

    But "RPG" can mean a hell of a lot more than that, so god knows what else people are upset about.
    It's actually a little frustrating that almost everybody has a different idea of what "RPG" means.


    You read my f'ing mind dude!
    So far the only thing I found unexpected was the global cooldown on powers. Then again, I'm only a level 6 sentinel so WTF do I know.

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I like not having stats

    That way I don't have to worry about how much better the other assault rifle is because I don't like it very much

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  • DHSDHS Chase lizards.. ...bark at donkeys..Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Juc wrote: »
    Oh I have a beef about the game.

    When people complain that we dumbed things down for the console crowd / shooter crowd, or said we removed the RPG elements, they rarely elaborate on what they mean.

    RPG elements could mean damn near anything, and so can dumbing things down.

    The only things I've seen so far that people have really elaborated on is, they want to see the stats on things, they want to loot dead people for whatever(their teeth I guess), and they want more elaborate skill trees.

    But "RPG" can mean a hell of a lot more than that, so god knows what else people are upset about.
    It's actually a little frustrating that almost everybody has a different idea of what "RPG" means.

    Do you work for BioWare or something? You're saying "we" a lot.

    And yes, my biggest gripe is that weapons don't have stats on them that I can numerically compare. It wouldn't be so bad if we could change weapons mid-mission, on the fly, like an FPS...but we can't. We have to play weapon locker double dutch to check out how different weapons operate.

    Yes, he does.

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  • DVGDVG No. 1 Honor Student Nether Institute, Evil AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Juc wrote: »
    Oh I have a beef about the game.

    When people complain that we dumbed things down for the console crowd / shooter crowd, or said we removed the RPG elements, they rarely elaborate on what they mean.

    RPG elements could mean damn near anything, and so can dumbing things down.

    The only things I've seen so far that people have really elaborated on is, they want to see the stats on things, they want to loot dead people for whatever(their teeth I guess), and they want more elaborate skill trees.

    But "RPG" can mean a hell of a lot more than that, so god knows what else people are upset about.
    It's actually a little frustrating that almost everybody has a different idea of what "RPG" means.

    Do you work for BioWare or something? You're saying "we" a lot.

    And yes, my biggest gripe is that weapons don't have stats on them that I can numerically compare. It wouldn't be so bad if we could change weapons mid-mission, on the fly, like an FPS...but we can't. We have to play weapon locker double dutch to check out how different weapons operate.

    To be fair, the weapon descriptions say "This is an upgrade of this".

    To be extra fair, real weapons don't have damage ratings to numerically compare.

    DVG on
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  • Mostlyjoe13Mostlyjoe13 Evil, Evil, Jump for joy! Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Jephery wrote: »
    Joolander wrote: »
    fellow Bestfiltrators:
    are you also getting like 1-2 seconds of slow-motion when you first bring up the sniper's scope? becaus I am and it is pretty friggin great
    I don't know why we're spoilering, but if you look at the infiltrator skill bonus you'll notice that sniper scope time dilation is one of your bonuses.
    And it gets better if you add to that the extra time and damage cloak gives you when foes are 'duh, where did he go george?' BOOM HEADSHOT. What it good for you? *smoke*

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  • Kris_xKKris_xK Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Yeah, I really wanted to make a spreadsheet about whether or not my +2 AP Pistol is better than my +2 Damage pistol.

    It says it clearly in the weapon description if the weapon is an upgrade. If you don't like it, go back to the former. I prefer this method because it means I can still use the single shot sniper and not have any dps loss thanks to the research upgrades.

    Its an easier, more open system.

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  • T4CTT4CT BAFTA-NOMINATED NAFTA-APPROVEDRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Wow, I wish I had more Paragon or Renegade right now because

    (romance)
    Jack gets pretty lippy after you tell her she's not allowed to tear Miranda a new one, which apparently cemented Miranda as my favorite female.

    T4CT on
  • ReznikReznik Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I actually kind of miss the combat from the first game.

    Mainly because I could throw down singularity and be done with a fight in about 5 seconds.

    I just want to get to the next talky part.

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  • JepheryJephery Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Just remember that most gamers don't actually post on forums.

    You have what, maybe 1000 people, 10000 at most, active on the bioware forums, and maybe 20-30 complaining together in one thread. But your customer base is in the millions.

    Add in the trolls, and what you have is a vocal minority tunnel visioning you.

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  • T4CTT4CT BAFTA-NOMINATED NAFTA-APPROVEDRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Juc wrote: »
    Oh I have a beef about the game.

    When people complain that we dumbed things down for the console crowd / shooter crowd, or said we removed the RPG elements, they rarely elaborate on what they mean.

    RPG elements could mean damn near anything, and so can dumbing things down.

    The only things I've seen so far that people have really elaborated on is, they want to see the stats on things, they want to loot dead people for whatever(their teeth I guess), and they want more elaborate skill trees.

    But "RPG" can mean a hell of a lot more than that, so god knows what else people are upset about.
    It's actually a little frustrating that almost everybody has a different idea of what "RPG" means.


    I imagine this has to be the most frustrating part of your job. People nitpicking every little nuance and finite detail because it's the not the perfect way they want it to be.

    If it makes you feel better, I feel that this is very, very much an RPG, and a very good one, with some third person shooter elements that add to the experience. Damned if it isn't the best game I've played in a long time.

    T4CT on
  • SakeidoSakeido Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Reznik wrote: »
    I actually kind of miss the combat from the first game.

    Mainly because I could throw down singularity and be done with a fight in about 5 seconds.

    I just want to get to the next talky part.

    I <3 talking quests
    shooting is nice but the conversations are better

    Sakeido on
  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    DVG wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Juc wrote: »
    Oh I have a beef about the game.

    When people complain that we dumbed things down for the console crowd / shooter crowd, or said we removed the RPG elements, they rarely elaborate on what they mean.

    RPG elements could mean damn near anything, and so can dumbing things down.

    The only things I've seen so far that people have really elaborated on is, they want to see the stats on things, they want to loot dead people for whatever(their teeth I guess), and they want more elaborate skill trees.

    But "RPG" can mean a hell of a lot more than that, so god knows what else people are upset about.
    It's actually a little frustrating that almost everybody has a different idea of what "RPG" means.

    Do you work for BioWare or something? You're saying "we" a lot.

    And yes, my biggest gripe is that weapons don't have stats on them that I can numerically compare. It wouldn't be so bad if we could change weapons mid-mission, on the fly, like an FPS...but we can't. We have to play weapon locker double dutch to check out how different weapons operate.

    To be fair, the weapon descriptions say "This is an upgrade of this".

    To be extra fair, real weapons don't have damage ratings to numerically compare.

    Did you seriously just go to the "real weapons" reasoning in a game about flying around the galaxy in space ships, shooting blaster rifles at people, and throwing them through the air with psychic powers? I'm just want to make sure.

    Also, those "this is an upgrade of XXX" messages are entirely subjective to some designer deciding it's actually better. Take the battle rifle over the AR. The battle rifle is tagged as "better", but in practice I hate it, the AR is a much more reliable weapon for a prolonged fight.

    GnomeTank on
    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    DVG wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Juc wrote: »
    Oh I have a beef about the game.

    When people complain that we dumbed things down for the console crowd / shooter crowd, or said we removed the RPG elements, they rarely elaborate on what they mean.

    RPG elements could mean damn near anything, and so can dumbing things down.

    The only things I've seen so far that people have really elaborated on is, they want to see the stats on things, they want to loot dead people for whatever(their teeth I guess), and they want more elaborate skill trees.

    But "RPG" can mean a hell of a lot more than that, so god knows what else people are upset about.
    It's actually a little frustrating that almost everybody has a different idea of what "RPG" means.

    Do you work for BioWare or something? You're saying "we" a lot.

    And yes, my biggest gripe is that weapons don't have stats on them that I can numerically compare. It wouldn't be so bad if we could change weapons mid-mission, on the fly, like an FPS...but we can't. We have to play weapon locker double dutch to check out how different weapons operate.

    To be fair, the weapon descriptions say "This is an upgrade of this".

    To be extra fair, real weapons don't have damage ratings to numerically compare.

    Real weapons actually have plenty of stats to compare.

    Cabezone on
  • ChaosHatChaosHat Hop, hop, hop, HA! Trick of the lightRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Uhhh, Tali recruitment mission might be my faaaaavorite. Also, some archangel spoilers/questions.
    Last game I taught Garrus the importance of sticking to a code and playing by the rules, as evidenced in the Dr. Heart thing. Now he's back to his whole "IMA KILL EVERYTHING I HATE RULES RAAAAR." What the hell happened?

    ChaosHat on
  • quarthinosquarthinos Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Juc wrote: »
    Oh I have a beef about the game.

    The only things I've seen so far that people have really elaborated on is, they want to see the stats on things, they want to loot dead people for whatever(their teeth I guess), and they want more elaborate skill trees.

    <sarcasm>
    But EVERY RPG ev3r has had us loot the dead!! Every single one!!! This is a fundamental law!
    </sarcasm>

    As for the other bits. By my math, you can get, at most, 60 skill points (2x30). Since you have 7 skills (counting the bonus) you can't max them all. In fact, unless you completely ignore one skill (hope it's not a prereq!), you can only max five. Which means that while the skill trees are flat (except the prereqs), you can't max everything. Which makes you make a descision on skills.. Not like an Amazon from D2, but there is a choice.

    Stats on things... Meh. Yes its better from a meta-game standpoint. But except Special Forces (yes, N7 is), soldiers use the guns issued to them. Special Forces get a bit wider of a selection, but 90% of the stuff they choose from was issued to some military force at some point. (And it's not like sheperd has access to an alliance armory, or even the Spectre stocks any more.) Be glad that you've got someone on the team (Jacob/Mordin) who can even make objective judgements about which gun is better. Unless you really want to break out the high-speed cameras to figure out the muzzle velocity, then find lots of corpses and a couple of medics to do wound analysis on?

    Yes real weapons have lots of ways to compare... But someone has to collect the stats by doing the stuff I mentioned at the end of the last paragraph. Here and now on Earth, if you find some random weapon in a gun store, you can probably do some research and figure out which <stat> is better between gun a and gun b. But in ME2 you're not in citadel space, so if you find <new batarian gun X> how do you know if it's better than standard alliance/turian issue? (Yes, I used batarian with malice.)

    quarthinos on
  • JepheryJephery Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    Uhhh, Tali recruitment mission might be my faaaaavorite. Also, some archangel spoilers/questions.
    Last game I taught Garrus the importance of sticking to a code and playing by the rules, as evidenced in the Dr. Heart thing. Now he's back to his whole "IMA KILL EVERYTHING I HATE RULES RAAAAR." What the hell happened?
    Shepard died, then the political cover up involved with that

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  • Mostlyjoe13Mostlyjoe13 Evil, Evil, Jump for joy! Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    Uhhh, Tali recruitment mission might be my faaaaavorite. Also, some archangel spoilers/questions.
    Last game I taught Garrus the importance of sticking to a code and playing by the rules, as evidenced in the Dr. Heart thing. Now he's back to his whole "IMA KILL EVERYTHING I HATE RULES RAAAAR." What the hell happened?

    I think it comes up as you talk to him...
    You died. He lost faith.

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    quarthinos wrote: »
    Stats on things... Meh. Yes its better from a meta-game standpoint. But except Special Forces (yes, N7 is), soldiers use the guns issued to them. Special Forces get a bit wider of a selection, but 90% of the stuff they choose from was issued to some military force at some point. (And it's not like sheperd has access to an alliance armory, or even the Spectre stocks any more.) Be glad that you've got someone on the team (Jacob/Mordin) who can even make objective judgements about which gun is better. Unless you really want to break out the high-speed cameras to figure out the muzzle velocity, then find lots of corpses and a couple of medics to do wound analysis on?

    This is no longer true. Regular infantry are given a lot more freedom to customize their weapons than in the past. You get issued a base M4, but you can then mix and match a set of attachments (within a set list). Yes, the special forces guys get more freedom, but you're average infantry these days is allowed some freedom in customizing his weapon to fit his mission and his tastes. Usually an armory sergeant has to approve it, and do the work, but that's not an issue.

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    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • DeadfallDeadfall I don't think you realize just how rich he is. In fact, I should put on a monocle.Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    So I know Zaeed (sp?) was delayed, but what about the Terminus Armor and black hole gun thing and the Collector's Armor I punched in codes for? Are those delayed too? They're not showing up at my Private Laptop thing.

    I apologize if this has been covered a dozen times.

    Also, a great part finding Archangel:
    When he tells you to check it out with his sniper scope, and it zooms to your view through the gun. Renegade Option: Bam!

    "More than just mercs down there. One less now."

    Yes.

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  • DVGDVG No. 1 Honor Student Nether Institute, Evil AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    DVG wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Juc wrote: »
    Oh I have a beef about the game.

    When people complain that we dumbed things down for the console crowd / shooter crowd, or said we removed the RPG elements, they rarely elaborate on what they mean.

    RPG elements could mean damn near anything, and so can dumbing things down.

    The only things I've seen so far that people have really elaborated on is, they want to see the stats on things, they want to loot dead people for whatever(their teeth I guess), and they want more elaborate skill trees.

    But "RPG" can mean a hell of a lot more than that, so god knows what else people are upset about.
    It's actually a little frustrating that almost everybody has a different idea of what "RPG" means.

    Do you work for BioWare or something? You're saying "we" a lot.

    And yes, my biggest gripe is that weapons don't have stats on them that I can numerically compare. It wouldn't be so bad if we could change weapons mid-mission, on the fly, like an FPS...but we can't. We have to play weapon locker double dutch to check out how different weapons operate.

    To be fair, the weapon descriptions say "This is an upgrade of this".

    To be extra fair, real weapons don't have damage ratings to numerically compare.

    Did you seriously just go to the "real weapons" reasoning in a game about flying around the galaxy in space ships, shooting blaster rifles at people, and throwing them through the air with psychic powers? I'm just want to make sure.

    Also, those "this is an upgrade of XXX" messages are entirely subjective to some designer deciding it's actually better. Take the battle rifle over the AR. The battle rifle is tagged as "better", but in practice I hate it, the AR is a much more reliable weapon for a prolonged fight.

    I did, but I'm not preparing it's defense in a court case or anything.

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  • Mostlyjoe13Mostlyjoe13 Evil, Evil, Jump for joy! Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I'm a little curious about one thing. Where does the Incisor DLC Sniper Rifle come from?

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  • QuirkyLittleTyrantQuirkyLittleTyrant A Mug Featuring Pichu On A Cloud Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I think it's one of those Dr Pepper codes.

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  • SakeidoSakeido Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    Uhhh, Tali recruitment mission might be my faaaaavorite. Also, some archangel spoilers/questions.
    Last game I taught Garrus the importance of sticking to a code and playing by the rules, as evidenced in the Dr. Heart thing. Now he's back to his whole "IMA KILL EVERYTHING I HATE RULES RAAAAR." What the hell happened?

    I think it comes up as you talk to him...
    You died. He lost faith.

    man that was one thing I was wondering about. It would have made a pretty big difference writing basically two sets of dialog for him.. I do like the new Garrus though, quite a bit. A party mainstay for me just like he was in the first..

    edit: although, there has been a few times he's gone too far and I didn't have the option to rein him in like I would have liked.

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  • Mostlyjoe13Mostlyjoe13 Evil, Evil, Jump for joy! Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I think it's one of those Dr Pepper codes.

    I thought those 3 visors where the Dr. Pepp codes.

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  • JepheryJephery Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I'm a little curious about one thing. Where does the Incisor DLC Sniper Rifle come from?

    Digital Deluxe version.

    http://store.steampowered.com/app/901242/

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  • BarrabasBarrabas Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    Uhhh, Tali recruitment mission might be my faaaaavorite. Also, some archangel spoilers/questions.
    Last game I taught Garrus the importance of sticking to a code and playing by the rules, as evidenced in the Dr. Heart thing. Now he's back to his whole "IMA KILL EVERYTHING I HATE RULES RAAAAR." What the hell happened?

    I think it comes up as you talk to him...
    You died. He lost faith.
    I really like what Joker said about him. I can't remember the exact line. But it was something along the lines of he used to have a stick up his ass, now the sticks out and he's trying to beat people to death with it.

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