The mousemat is just one further step to sniping perfection, one more step down a road that will result in you becoming the best shooter of them all. But each step leaves behind a little piece of your humanity. What demonic monstrosity will you become at the end of this road? Will you even be able to recognise yourself? Those at their peak are isolated from those below. Also, 50 euros + shipping is a bloody lot for a mousemat. Might be cheaper just to peel off a layer of skin and use that.
Hey, guys, can anyone recommend me a hard-surface smooth mousemat?
Trouble is with this new mouse is that it's so accurate that it's actually picking up the individual gaps between fibres on my current one. And my current one is no slouch, it's a steelseries QcK.
I'm looking for something about 9.5 x 8 inches, and again - I think any texturing might actually backfire.
I'm wondering about this, but I want to be sure of what I'm getting before spending that sort of money.
They're actually pretty rare now, it was pretty hard to keep them from getting dented which messed up the tracking. Those mice read a grid that was painted on the metal, using an infared LED instead of the visible light ones we get today. The shiny surface would probably screw up modern mice.
The mousemat is just one further step to sniping perfection, one more step down a road that will result in you becoming the best shooter of them all. But each step leaves behind a little piece of your humanity. What demonic monstrosity will you become at the end of this road? Will you even be able to recognise yourself? Those at their peak are isolated from those below. Also, 50 euros + shipping is a bloody lot for a mousemat. Might be cheaper just to peel off a layer of skin and use that.
Peeling off skin for mouspad > 50 Euros on the demonic monstrosity scale.
I have an exactMat from razer. Bought it kind of randomly cuz it was cheap, but it's worked out very well for me so far. The speed side is smooth, the control side is more textured.
But then I only set my mouse to 1000dpi, at that point everything is rather smooth. I'm not sure what the issue you're having is though.
Edit: Wow xzzy, I had the mouse/pad like that with my old Sun. The pad was in pretty good shape, as long as you didn't drop things on it, it stayed flat and wouldn't dent. No hitting!
Well, my dpi is 2000 and my polling rate is 1000Hz. It's also laser, not optical.
Basically, the detection is so fine that my cloth mousemat just doesn't cut it any more because the laser detects even the smallest imperfections.
Rizzi: disable steam cloud sync (multiplayer, advanced, at the bottom) and restart steam. I had the same issue.
edit: Xzzy, that's pretty cool.
Well I have a MS Sidewinder and that works smoothly on the mat I have, even when I do some primitive digital sculpting, when I'm too lazy to pull out the wacom. But then I don't actually go to 2000dpi, since it's too fast for my taste.
What effect does the texture have on your mousing now? Skips in movement or jittery etc?
I think the attraction of 2000dpi is that you can set your mouse sensitivity really, really low. Makes small adjustments easier, but you can still haul ass when you need to.
But I'm just guessing. I've been using some poopy intellimouse that shipped with a Dell we bought at work.
My only concern when buying mice is the wireless connection to my pc, that I must insist is necessary due to the distance to my computer and the presence of rabbits who hate wires.
My mouse is fine, but my keyboard is giving me some weird lag, I'm still trying to figure out how to address it.
Edit: Also, I'm not trying to be a dick about the 2000 dpi thing, I just genuinely don't understand. Maybe if I had such fine control over my hand movements.
I think the attraction of 2000dpi is that you can set your mouse sensitivity really, really low. Makes small adjustments easier, but you can still haul ass when you need to.
But I'm just guessing. I've been using some poopy intellimouse that shipped with a Dell we bought at work.
This is pretty much exactly how I use it, which is why I chose a mouse with tactile buttons to change dpi settings on the fly.
I use a logitech g9 with the dpi switch set at 400, 1000, and 1600. On multiple occasions while playing tf2 I have hit the switch by accident and died as a result, so yes it is noticeable.
I use a logitech g9 with the dpi switch set at 400, 1000, and 1600. On multiple occasions while playing tf2 I have hit the switch by accident and died as a result, so yes it is noticeable.
Well, yeah, when you're actively changing between them. But after you adjust your sensitively level, does it really make much of a difference? I can understand the appeal of having a mouse where you can adjust this on the fly, but that's what scripts are for!
I have DPI + and - buttons on my mouse, and mouse buttons 4 and 5 on the side.
for some reason playing TF2 if I hit mouse 4 or 5 it makes the DPI go super low. i mean, i can put it right back up to my normal dpi with the + button, but not mid combat.
used to kill me sometimes, but I have learned to avoid hitting the buttons.
yeah, there is probably another way to fix it, but i am the kind of person who avoids the problem
I use a logitech g9 with the dpi switch set at 400, 1000, and 1600. On multiple occasions while playing tf2 I have hit the switch by accident and died as a result, so yes it is noticeable.
Well, yeah, when you're actively changing between them. But after you adjust your sensitively level, does it really make much of a difference? I can understand the appeal of having a mouse where you can adjust this on the fly, but that's what scripts are for!
That's like asking if it makes a difference whether you're going at 20mph vs 30mph. For me and others, yes, but some people just aren't as sensitive to it.
I think the attraction of 2000dpi is that you can set your mouse sensitivity really, really low. Makes small adjustments easier, but you can still haul ass when you need to.
But I'm just guessing. I've been using some poopy intellimouse that shipped with a Dell we bought at work.
Yeah, I use anything from 1 - 2.5 sens.
Intellimice are fantastic, I used one for ages. Tyrannus also uses one, so does... I forget who, but another very good player. Iowa too I think. Mine was just finally dying, and I'd had three at that point, so I decided with christmas coming up that I'd treat myself.
Edit: Also, I'm not trying to be a dick about the 2000 dpi thing, I just genuinely don't understand. Maybe if I had such fine control over my hand movements.
It's cool, I understand the scepticism, but believe me there's a difference. Intellimice are 800 DPI. This blows it out the water. So accurate.
But after you adjust your sensitively level, does it really make much of a difference?
The thing is that you're talking tiny, tiny movements on the mouse. Like... I don't even move my hand, I just shift its weight to one side.
The thing is that you're talking tiny, tiny movements on the mouse. Like... I don't even move my hand, I just shift its weight to one side.
Okay, yeah, see, this? I'm never this precise when I play. Maybe that's why I don't play scout or sniper. But if you're making that fine movements then I could see the benefit of a 2000 dpi mouse.
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Hey, guys, can anyone recommend me a hard-surface smooth mousemat?
Trouble is with this new mouse is that it's so accurate that it's actually picking up the individual gaps between fibres on my current one. And my current one is no slouch, it's a steelseries QcK.
I'm looking for something about 9.5 x 8 inches, and again - I think any texturing might actually backfire.
I'm wondering about this, but I want to be sure of what I'm getting before spending that sort of money.
I use a logitech g9 with the dpi switch set at 400, 1000, and 1600. On multiple occasions while playing tf2 I have hit the switch by accident and died as a result, so yes it is noticeable.
That's because different DPI requires different mouse sensitivity for the same effect. If you adjust your sensitivity accordingly I don't see why it makes such a difference.
Hey, guys, can anyone recommend me a hard-surface smooth mousemat?
Trouble is with this new mouse is that it's so accurate that it's actually picking up the individual gaps between fibres on my current one. And my current one is no slouch, it's a steelseries QcK.
I'm looking for something about 9.5 x 8 inches, and again - I think any texturing might actually backfire.
I'm wondering about this, but I want to be sure of what I'm getting before spending that sort of money.
Why not just use a cheap 3 button mouse and keyboard with no scripts? My 20 dollar thunder 8 mousepad (an awesome present) costs more than my kb/mouse combined.
Ironically, I used to use that old optical mouse, linked previously, with the special blue/red pad when I was a kid. Then when I started to get into FPSes, I jumped on the early uber mouse craze, with a 6 button wireless mouse. Back then gaming mice used balls, because they were "better" than new optical mice coming out. I also had some of the most complicated alias quake2 scripts devised.
There were harddrive failures wiping my scripts (and win95/98 corruptions), plus mice dying and needing recharchings, and the dreaded need of rebinding whenever at friend's computers, LANs, and PC bangs. After all that, I realized I was better off being normalized to standard controls and cheap yet solid peripherals and no scripts. It took me like 5 years before I stopped using mouse2 for jumping.
The thing is that you're talking tiny, tiny movements on the mouse. Like... I don't even move my hand, I just shift its weight to one side.
Okay, yeah, see, this? I'm never this precise when I play. Maybe that's why I don't play scout or sniper. But if you're making that fine movements then I could see the benefit of a 2000 dpi mouse.
One of my computers has a really high dpi mouse, the other has an intellimouse, when I switch from the high to the low dpi my wrist starts to hurt because the muscles in my hand have to remain more tense for the lower dpi movements to stay exact.
Also, my mousepad is the Hard Rock Cafe millenium edition mouse pad. Pro, I know. The mouse surface is flexible plastic in a grid pattern. I think I'm actually on my second one of them.
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The mouse pad I'm using has one of those awesome squishy gel pads. It's wrist luxury.
Mouse Systems had this solved by 1982!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouse_Systems
Can't get much harder than a sheet of metal!
They're actually pretty rare now, it was pretty hard to keep them from getting dented which messed up the tracking. Those mice read a grid that was painted on the metal, using an infared LED instead of the visible light ones we get today. The shiny surface would probably screw up modern mice.
I still have one, as a memento of elder days.
Peeling off skin for mouspad > 50 Euros on the demonic monstrosity scale.
I kill someone, freeze and stutter.
Someone else kills someone near me, freeze and stutter.
But then I only set my mouse to 1000dpi, at that point everything is rather smooth. I'm not sure what the issue you're having is though.
Edit: Wow xzzy, I had the mouse/pad like that with my old Sun. The pad was in pretty good shape, as long as you didn't drop things on it, it stayed flat and wouldn't dent. No hitting!
FFBE: 898,311,440
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Basically, the detection is so fine that my cloth mousemat just doesn't cut it any more because the laser detects even the smallest imperfections.
Rizzi: disable steam cloud sync (multiplayer, advanced, at the bottom) and restart steam. I had the same issue.
edit: Xzzy, that's pretty cool.
Well I have a MS Sidewinder and that works smoothly on the mat I have, even when I do some primitive digital sculpting, when I'm too lazy to pull out the wacom. But then I don't actually go to 2000dpi, since it's too fast for my taste.
What effect does the texture have on your mousing now? Skips in movement or jittery etc?
FFBE: 898,311,440
Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/dElementalor
edit: jitters a little, especially at slow speeds. Enough to adversely effect my accuracy and make me like using it less.
FFBE: 898,311,440
Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/dElementalor
But I'm just guessing. I've been using some poopy intellimouse that shipped with a Dell we bought at work.
My mouse is fine, but my keyboard is giving me some weird lag, I'm still trying to figure out how to address it.
Edit: Also, I'm not trying to be a dick about the 2000 dpi thing, I just genuinely don't understand. Maybe if I had such fine control over my hand movements.
This is pretty much exactly how I use it, which is why I chose a mouse with tactile buttons to change dpi settings on the fly.
FFBE: 898,311,440
Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/dElementalor
Well, yeah, when you're actively changing between them. But after you adjust your sensitively level, does it really make much of a difference? I can understand the appeal of having a mouse where you can adjust this on the fly, but that's what scripts are for!
for some reason playing TF2 if I hit mouse 4 or 5 it makes the DPI go super low. i mean, i can put it right back up to my normal dpi with the + button, but not mid combat.
used to kill me sometimes, but I have learned to avoid hitting the buttons.
yeah, there is probably another way to fix it, but i am the kind of person who avoids the problem
That's like asking if it makes a difference whether you're going at 20mph vs 30mph. For me and others, yes, but some people just aren't as sensitive to it.
The advantage of having a mouse that can switch dpi is that it carries over to other games/applications.
Yeah, I use anything from 1 - 2.5 sens.
Intellimice are fantastic, I used one for ages. Tyrannus also uses one, so does... I forget who, but another very good player. Iowa too I think. Mine was just finally dying, and I'd had three at that point, so I decided with christmas coming up that I'd treat myself.
It's cool, I understand the scepticism, but believe me there's a difference. Intellimice are 800 DPI. This blows it out the water. So accurate. The thing is that you're talking tiny, tiny movements on the mouse. Like... I don't even move my hand, I just shift its weight to one side.
Done that. :? Didn't do anything at all for me.
Okay, yeah, see, this? I'm never this precise when I play. Maybe that's why I don't play scout or sniper. But if you're making that fine movements then I could see the benefit of a 2000 dpi mouse.
I use a rough, wooden desk as my mouse mat
It still pleases me when people mention my engineer macro. The implication was that you'd set 4 to increase sensitivity, and 5 to decrease it.
What other games? There are other games? You can use the same scripts in L4D, they both use the same engine!
That's because different DPI requires different mouse sensitivity for the same effect. If you adjust your sensitivity accordingly I don't see why it makes such a difference.
I use a frequently polished desk as my mouse pad.
Ironically, I used to use that old optical mouse, linked previously, with the special blue/red pad when I was a kid. Then when I started to get into FPSes, I jumped on the early uber mouse craze, with a 6 button wireless mouse. Back then gaming mice used balls, because they were "better" than new optical mice coming out. I also had some of the most complicated alias quake2 scripts devised.
There were harddrive failures wiping my scripts (and win95/98 corruptions), plus mice dying and needing recharchings, and the dreaded need of rebinding whenever at friend's computers, LANs, and PC bangs. After all that, I realized I was better off being normalized to standard controls and cheap yet solid peripherals and no scripts. It took me like 5 years before I stopped using mouse2 for jumping.
One of my computers has a really high dpi mouse, the other has an intellimouse, when I switch from the high to the low dpi my wrist starts to hurt because the muscles in my hand have to remain more tense for the lower dpi movements to stay exact.
Also, my mouse cost $5. It has two buttons :P
Also, my mousepad is the Hard Rock Cafe millenium edition mouse pad. Pro, I know. The mouse surface is flexible plastic in a grid pattern. I think I'm actually on my second one of them.