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Suitable Television for Wii?

MugenmidgetMugenmidget Registered User regular
edited February 2010 in Games and Technology
I wondered if anyone had experience with TVs that work well with the Wii? Basically, the requirements are really slim:

-Support component inputs
-Supports at least the 480p resolution (is EDTV the term for that?)
-Should be widescreen/have a 16:9 ratio (I think some games support 4:3 only but the majority seem to be fine with 16:9)


My Wii looks awful on my Hitachi 53UWX10BA through component. But granted, so do the Xbox 360 and PS3 because it's a rather old television that supports 540p/1080i max. I'm thinking about replacing that television with something nicer, but that's mainly for the 360 and PS3's sake.

I have an old Sony PVM 2030 which is a "professional grade" (oh, how fancy!) monitor used back in the day by television studios and as medical monitors (I see some on sale for medical purposes on eBay still, don't know if anyone in the field actually uses them though). For gaming purposes it has inputs for analog RGB so it's great for making old systems look awesome, but the S-Video support on it is really good too. I ran the Wii through S-Video on this television and it looked quite a bit better than the Hitachi HD/EDTV, even though it was running at 480i opposed to 480p.

So does anyone run their Wii through a cheaper, smaller television with 480p support? Are there any solid recommendations (considering both price and picture quality)? Thanks for any help, it's appreciated!

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    It's kind of hard to recommend a TV based on a game console. Pretty much any TV you buy nowadays will support everything you need.

    I always think the Wii looks best on CRTs that take component cables, though. Doesn't even have to be 480p. I'm not even joking, the natural fuzziness is like free antialiasing. No More Heroes looks fine on my 20" CRT Philips but awful and jaggy on my friend's 36" LCD TV.

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    MugenmidgetMugenmidget Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Ah, great, that sounds like something I would want to use for the Wii. Do you know of any specific models of CRTs that will accept component that I should keep an eye out for and does anyone still sell them (or would I just have to get something used)? And do any of them support 16:9 as well or is that a stretch?

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    redheadredhead Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    How concerned are you with lag? I think basically any TV should be fine unless you're going to be playing something really reflex-intensive, in which case you'll want to buy a TV that works at the Wii's native resolution to avoid upscaling/downscaling lag.

    I believe the Wii does 480i without component cables and 480p with, so you'd want your basic, non-HD TV in the first case and an EDTV without. When I was researching this for myself a while ago I didn't want to spend much on a TV, which was an issue because finding a used EDTV is a pain in the ass. But if you're willing to buy new I'm sure you could find one.

    However, you're only likely to care about lag to the point of buying a different TV to avoid it if you regularly play a game that requires really good reflexes. So if you're a competitive SSBM player, then yeah, probably try to track down an EDTV. But that chances of that are slim, so you can probably just buy whatever you want and deal with the ~10ms of lag you're likely to see.

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    MugenmidgetMugenmidget Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Haha, well I guess I have to admit that part of the reason I'm looking into this is for "Tatsunoko vs. Capcom", so lag would definitely be a concern. The older Hitachi I have now does not seem to suffer from any lag, but I have definitely heard about those kinds of problems with upscaling. Ideally I'd like a CRT that supports component and 16:9, but that seems like it would be a bit of a rarity. If anyone can point me in the right direction towards one I'd be thrilled.

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Ah, great, that sounds like something I would want to use for the Wii. Do you know of any specific models of CRTs that will accept component that I should keep an eye out for and does anyone still sell them (or would I just have to get something used)? And do any of them support 16:9 as well or is that a stretch?

    I don't follow the latest TV news or anything but it's getting pretty hard to find new CRTs anywhere but online, outside of the cheapo small ones. I searched on Amazon and it does look like there are still some that are considered new, even HD and widescreen, but they're expensive.

    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=CRT+TV

    Before you commit to anything you should ask around with friends and relatives and see if anyone has a good CRT you can try it on to see if you like the look of it.

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    redheadredhead Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Haha, well I guess I have to admit that part of the reason I'm looking into this is for "Tatsunoko vs. Capcom", so lag would definitely be a concern. The older Hitachi I have now does not seem to suffer from any lag, but I have definitely heard about those kinds of problems with upscaling. Ideally I'd like a CRT that supports component and 16:9, but that seems like it would be a bit of a rarity. If anyone can point me in the right direction towards one I'd be thrilled.

    when I was researching this for myself I found this smashboards post really useful

    it's smash-focused, but everything the guy says should still apply to any fighting game, I think

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    elliotw2elliotw2 Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    LCD's generally make non-HD input look like shit anyway. Most of the more recent CRT's support Component inputs, but 16:9 is generally regulated to a forced letterbox mode.

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    MugenmidgetMugenmidget Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Thanks for all the continued discussion and links guys, it's definitely helping. What about suitable VGA monitors? Do cables like these actually work?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/PS3-Wii-VGA-TV-PC-Box-Switch-SAV-AV-New-Mayflash_W0QQitemZ170437944696

    From the description it seems that only 480p would work, which would be fine but it would be nice to have something that supported all resolutions as I think there's a few games that do not support 480p. From what I've read in various reviews it seems like VC games would still be okay but I know there's a lot of GCN titles that run in only 480i. For the 480i content I could always switch to S-Video, but I'd like to avoid that.

    And about the letterbox mode: I think that would be great. Much better than a squished picture and I wouldn't mind the "blank" space. So I'll definitely need to make sure if a potential 4:3 CRT I purchase is capable of that. But if they support component then that should be pretty common, right?

    EDIT: This older Sony Wega looks perfect, I might need to find something like it... http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/ele/1569062323.html

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    GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Try and make sure the TV has an actual stretch option if you want the Wii in widescreen. I have two LCD TVs from different manufacturers and neither of them can do the Wii in widescreen. Why? Because the Wii doesn't seem to recognize that each of the TVs automatically adjusts for widescreen mode, or the TVs won't recognize the Wii is set to widescreen. Either way the Wii is stuck in its little square box and it's really annoying. Meanwhile I know someone whose TV has an actual "stretch" option and his Wii will go widescreen.

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    Serious_ScrubSerious_Scrub Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    from what I've heard, more expensive HDTVs will have better scalers, allowing for better looking 480p content and/or less lag. Don't know much more about it, though

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