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[Let's Play] Civilization 4: Domination Victory!

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Well, if we need more forces to smash Jiao then I shall delay anything in the Los Wangeles queue after the current market in favor of more units! Chariots probably would be the best since they have to actually make it to the front, but if we have enough of those then catapults or whatever we still need are good too. This will continue until we have, well, however many we need still.

    With the distance to the front, I'd prefer Chariots out of you.

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  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Generic non-LP-related Civ 4 comment:

    I haven't ever played a Civ game before, so I nabbed it during the Steam Christmas sale.

    And man is it ever the greatest timesink. Good thing there's a clock in the corner or I'll never go to sleep ever again...

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    ronya wrote: »
    Generic non-LP-related Civ 4 comment:

    I haven't ever played a Civ game before, so I nabbed it during the Steam Christmas sale.

    And man is it ever the greatest timesink. Good thing there's a clock in the corner or I'll never go to sleep ever again...

    Ever played X-COM? Just as addictive, but also the scariest game ever made. I still believe this, and it's a 16 year old turn based game.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Alright, proposals!

    1) I'm going to ask for a validation of the war with Joao again, just to make
    sure.


    Also, I need a war plan drawn up. Invade from the north (Evora first), invade from the south (that little bastard city next to East Schlongville), or go for the heart (Lisbon -> Oporto)? This is for the Warlord to choose and the warlord only.

    2) Shall we found a hilariously aggressive, dangerous city in the far south in that so very awesome site I noted in the update?

    3) Religion! Pick one or none!

    4) Civics!
    a) Government Civic: Despotism is not an option - Hereditary Rule, Representation, Police State, Universal Suffrage
    b) Labor Civic: Stay with Slavery, Switch to Caste System
    c) Religion Civic: If you vote for a religion, should we switch to Organized Religion

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  • FunkyWaltDoggFunkyWaltDogg Columbia, SCRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    My two cents:

    1) Go to war!

    2) Don't found that city.

    3) Switch to Confucianism, since it's the religion we have in the most cities. There aren't really any better options from a diplomatic perspective, since we don't have Christianity, we're killing Joao, war with Shaka is probably inevitable, and Brennus is a lightweight.

    4) Government - my first pick would be Representation. Anything except Universal Suffrage is tolerable.
    Labor - Caste System goes nicely with Rep.
    Religion - Switch to OR.

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  • mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I want Representation! Who gets to vote on that again?

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Edit: An amusing question to our host: what happens if the city someone is inhabiting is taken by a rival civilization?

    I missed this edit. The answer is: I don't lose cities.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    mrt144 wrote: »
    I want Representation! Who gets to vote on that again?

    For now? The cabinet only.

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  • HippieHippie Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    1) I'm going to ask for a validation of the war with Joao again, just to make
    sure.


    His cities need to be ours.

    Also, I need a war plan drawn up. Invade from the north (Evora first), invade from the south (that little bastard city next to East Schlongville), or go for the heart (Lisbon -> Oporto)? This is for the Warlord to choose and the warlord only.

    Send a token force to Evora, and our main force Lisbon. Hitting both, then move down.

    2) Shall we found a hilariously aggressive, dangerous city in the far south in that so very awesome site I noted in the update?

    After the war, maybe.

    3) Religion! Pick one or none!

    We founded Confucianism, correct? What more of a sign do we need?!?

    4) Civics!
    a) Government Civic: Despotism is not an option - Hereditary Rule, Representation, Police State, Universal Suffrage
    b) Labor Civic: Stay with Slavery, Switch to Caste System
    c) Religion Civic: If you vote for a religion, should we switch to Organized Religion


    Could we get a quick run down on what those civics do exactly?

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I point you to the magical wonder and mystery that is the fourth update!

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  • DarianDarian Yellow Wizard The PitRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Would it help if I just quoted the relevant part? I'm going to do that!
    Oh boy, here goes! We've got a bunch of new civics, here's what they all do:

    Hereditary Rule: Civ4 rules - Each military unit stationed in a city gives it +1 :).
    LP rules - With every new cabinet, we'll get a King randomly selected from the people in the empire. He will appoint a new cabinet and join the decision making process. I will still play the turns because screw trading the save around. I almost made this a temporary succession game, but that's a tad too complex.

    Representation: Civ4 Rules - Our 6 largest cities get +5 :). Each specialists generates +3 science.
    LP Rules - Each city will elect a representative. They get a vote on the cabinet and can propose legislation.

    Police State: Civ4 Rules - -50% War Weariness, +25% Unit Production
    LP Rules - A Chief of (Secret) Police (Spy or Military will join the cabinet. They will have... powers.

    Universal Suffrage: Civ4 Rules - Towns generation +1 Hammer. We can use our treasury to buy production.
    LP Rules - Chaos! Anyone can propose legislation! If it's seconded it goes to the cabinet.

    Caste System: Civ4 Rules - unlimited numbers of Scientist, Merchant, Artist specialists.
    LP Rules - Scientists, Merchants, and Artists in each city elect the governors. Initial governor turns (from naming votes) last until the next full cabinet session. So founded update 1 of a new cabinet, you get 5 updates. Founded update 3, you get 3. Then you have to win the vote.

    Organized Religion: Civ4 Rules - Cities with the state religion make buildings 25% faster.
    LP Rules - Priests of the state religion will have their non-cabinet votes doubled. A High Priest position will be added to the cabinet. Priests of the state religion only, of course

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  • HippieHippie Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    a) Representation
    b) Caste system
    c) NO!

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  • mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    mrt144 wrote: »
    I want Representation! Who gets to vote on that again?

    For now? The cabinet only.

    Most the time I ask this, it's purely for rhetorical purposes so people aren't voting without cause.

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  • JudgementJudgement Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Alright, proposals!

    1) I'm going to ask for a validation of the war with Joao again, just to make
    sure.


    Also, I need a war plan drawn up. Invade from the north (Evora first), invade from the south (that little bastard city next to East Schlongville), or go for the heart (Lisbon -> Oporto)? This is for the Warlord to choose and the warlord only.

    2) Shall we found a hilariously aggressive, dangerous city in the far south in that so very awesome site I noted in the update?

    3) Religion! Pick one or none!

    4) Civics!
    a) Government Civic: Despotism is not an option - Hereditary Rule, Representation, Police State, Universal Suffrage
    b) Labor Civic: Stay with Slavery, Switch to Caste System
    c) Religion Civic: If you vote for a religion, should we switch to Organized Religion

    1) FUCK JOAO. What more do you want from us?! A video montage of us screaming at the computer for the 4th time "Fuck Joao"?

    2)Of course, if it stands to help our cause.

    3)Confucianism. We founded it, we deserve it.

    4a)Representation sounds good, lets go for it.
    4b)Slavery for now.
    4c)Organized Religion. The people shall know Confucianism!

    Also, with the Code of Laws up and ready, when can I expect more spy options available?

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    When people get around to building courthouses... which, we'll see!

    Also, obviously: governors get your orders in.

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  • dojangodojango Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Alright, proposals!

    1) I'm going to ask for a validation of the war with Joao again, just to make
    sure.


    Also, I need a war plan drawn up. Invade from the north (Evora first), invade from the south (that little bastard city next to East Schlongville), or go for the heart (Lisbon -> Oporto)? This is for the Warlord to choose and the warlord only.

    2) Shall we found a hilariously aggressive, dangerous city in the far south in that so very awesome site I noted in the update?

    3) Religion! Pick one or none!

    4) Civics!
    a) Government Civic: Despotism is not an option - Hereditary Rule, Representation, Police State, Universal Suffrage
    b) Labor Civic: Stay with Slavery, Switch to Caste System
    c) Religion Civic: If you vote for a religion, should we switch to Organized Religion

    1. war!!!
    2. let's hold off for now, we have enough aggresive cities to found in our own sphere.
    3. religion: none for now. Since nothing will help us diplomatically.
    4. Representation/slavery/no religion.

    War plans are more the milieu of the war department, but we should cut off the head and watch the body die, like this guy says.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    With only our Philosopher to vote:

    1) WAR!!! has won with 3 votes.
    2) Yes/Maybe/No have a vote each. This will be brought up at a later date if it's still available
    3) Confucianism 2, None 1
    4) a) Representation is victorious with 3 votes!
    b) Two for slavery, one for caste system
    c) 2 for none, 1 for Organized Religion

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Alright, proposals!
    2) Shall we found a hilariously aggressive, dangerous city in the far south in that so very awesome site I noted in the update?
    Hold off on provoking people until after the Portugese have been subjugated.
    3) Religion! Pick one or none!
    Well, I am a Priest. I cannot suffer the fact that our nation would go godless for any longer than it should. We should therefore convert to Confucianism at once.


    4) Civics!
    a) Government Civic: Despotism is not an option - Hereditary Rule, Representation, Police State, Universal Suffrage
    b) Labor Civic: Stay with Slavery, Switch to Caste System
    c) Religion Civic: If you vote for a religion, should we switch to Organized Religion
    We should switch to Representation, Caste System and Organized Religion.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    We will not found hilariously aggressive city!

    We will convert to Confucianism, making our diplomats' jobs slightly harder.

    I have the tie breaking vote here on Slavery vs. Caste System and Paganism vs. Organized Religion

    The improved production from Organized Religion is worth it unless there is overwhelming support for Paganism from the populace.

    However, I have mixed feelings on the Whippings vs. the Caste Systems. Therefore I am seeking the wisdom of our people. I'm not guaranteeing you guys' vote will win, but it probably will.

    Select in CYAN either of them.

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  • FoomyFoomy Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Slavery and Organized religion

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    We will convert to Confucianism, making our diplomats' jobs slightly harder.
    Well, there's a simple solution to this. Get our missionaries working and start converting the heathen foreigners.

    Or commit a bit of religious genocide. That works too.

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  • Rawkking GoodguyRawkking Goodguy Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    The people (and by people, I mean me) support Slavery and Organized Religion.

    And...get converting reaaallllly quick before we lose our open borders if you want to do this, priests. Combined with a bribe to convert to our religion should make us a few allies. I highly recommend converting the maya if possible. Heck, maybe we could even get Shaka.

    Thankfully with organized religion any city with Confucianism can build missionaries.

    Edit: What difficulty are we playing on? I'd guess Warlord or maybe Noble from what I've seen.

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Edit: What difficulty are we playing on? I'd guess Warlord or maybe Noble from what I've seen.
    It's Prince, actually.

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  • silburnlsilburnl Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Well I'm too late to put the case for the institution of a Police State for the duration of the war, but I'm a little suprised that my esteemed superior within C.O.C.K didn't push for it. Oh well.

    We should retain our peculiar institution and unify state and religion - the hammer bonus will be useful for getting those courthouses set up.

    I look forward to seeing what kind of plan the Warlord proposes for the conquest of Portugal. Whatever it is, let's not forget to deny Joao the benefit of his iron mine at the earliest opportunity and if we can nick a worker or two from him all the better (actually, given EB's point about the queue of infrastructure projects that's building up, how many workers do we currently have? We're going to need a bunch to clear all that jungle at some point).

    I endorse the idea of getting missionaries into the Mayan cities - I forsee a time when Buddhists and Confucians shall work together in fraternal amity for the greater glory of the Egyptian civilisation (and trebles of culture all round)!

    Regards
    Luke

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  • HippieHippie Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Actually, now that Rawking mentioned it, what about trying to get our religion into Shakas cities? It might get us an ally...

    But thats a decision to be left to our religious leaders.

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  • FunkyWaltDoggFunkyWaltDogg Columbia, SCRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Hmm... I suppose that now is a poor time to abandon Slavery, since we're going to war. Organized Religion is a much easier call.

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  • silburnlsilburnl Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Hippie wrote: »
    Actually, now that Rawking mentioned it, what about trying to get our religion into Shakas cities?
    The Zulus are a way off (thankfully) and we're limited to having three missionaries at any one time, so Shaka should probably wait until we've got Confucianism nicely seeded amongst our closer neighbours.

    There might be a case for dropping a missionary into one of his core cities in the hope that it spreads from there without any further help however.

    Regards
    Luke

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  • TeriferinTeriferin Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    If my previous posts have not made it evident, I support Caste System! I have no issues with Organized Religion.

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  • Smaug6Smaug6 Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I say go with Slavery and don't get eliminated, I mean Organized Religion

    I would also like to volunteer myself an Engineer as governor for one of the cities will be conquering in the near future. I have excellent qualifications as I helped oversee the building of the Pyramids, which used alot of slaves and workers captured from Joao, so I am familiar with his people and how to oppress them. The more industrious the city the better, but I can't tell which is the best from the maps, so I leave it to you, your majesty.

    All Hail Egypt.

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  • mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Slavery and Organized Religion.

    There's no workshops and our cities aren't THAT big yet for Caste System.

    Organized Confucianism is gonna make Pi-Dongbury THAT much better at building wonders etc.

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  • EbfanEbfan Wimmy Wam Wam Wozzle! Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I say we stick with Slavery for now, as we are on the eve of a major war and will likely be heavily mobilizing. I wouldn't mind eventually switching over to Caste System if we get a better opportunity to do so.

    I guess if we are going to take Confucianism as a state religion, we might as well go with Organized Religion.

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  • TheManiac_614TheManiac_614 Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    after much deliberation I vote that we stick withSlavery, but a conversion to confucianism may be interesting. I hear great things about prophets bringing in much needed commerce. Also switch to Orginized religion to spread the word faster and to get to work on building things for economy. Such as Grocers and Markets.

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  • JudgementJudgement Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    silburnl wrote: »
    Well I'm too late to put the case for the institution of a Police State for the duration of the war, but I'm a little suprised that my esteemed superior within C.O.C.K didn't push for it. Oh well.

    We should retain our peculiar institution and unify state and religion - the hammer bonus will be useful for getting those courthouses set up.

    I look forward to seeing what kind of plan the Warlord proposes for the conquest of Portugal. Whatever it is, let's not forget to deny Joao the benefit of his iron mine at the earliest opportunity and if we can nick a worker or two from him all the better (actually, given EB's point about the queue of infrastructure projects that's building up, how many workers do we currently have? We're going to need a bunch to clear all that jungle at some point).

    I endorse the idea of getting missionaries into the Mayan cities - I forsee a time when Buddhists and Confucians shall work together in fraternal amity for the greater glory of the Egyptian civilisation (and trebles of culture all round)!

    Regards
    Luke

    I did not want to go for a Police state because, economically, we stand to gain more from a Representative state. Also, since your posting here for Spying material, I highly appreciate the help you've offered to better
    our secret endeavors. When we have the means to be effective Spies, you shall rise to the highest possible position within C.O.C.K.; the esteemed "Luke 'Soap' MacTavish". Of course, I'll be Judge Price.

    Now, whip us Spies some goddamn Courthouses already. We'd like to help you take care of your "problems", Queen Enlightenedbum. And I will put forward this idea; if we could have a city built for Espionage specifically, we could be better at spreading our influence(or influenza) throughout the nations.

    ...Besides ours, respectively.

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  • mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Judgement wrote: »
    silburnl wrote: »
    Well I'm too late to put the case for the institution of a Police State for the duration of the war, but I'm a little suprised that my esteemed superior within C.O.C.K didn't push for it. Oh well.

    We should retain our peculiar institution and unify state and religion - the hammer bonus will be useful for getting those courthouses set up.

    I look forward to seeing what kind of plan the Warlord proposes for the conquest of Portugal. Whatever it is, let's not forget to deny Joao the benefit of his iron mine at the earliest opportunity and if we can nick a worker or two from him all the better (actually, given EB's point about the queue of infrastructure projects that's building up, how many workers do we currently have? We're going to need a bunch to clear all that jungle at some point).

    I endorse the idea of getting missionaries into the Mayan cities - I forsee a time when Buddhists and Confucians shall work together in fraternal amity for the greater glory of the Egyptian civilisation (and trebles of culture all round)!

    Regards
    Luke

    I did not want to go for a Police state because, economically, we stand to gain more from a Representative state. Also, since your posting here for Spying material, I highly appreciate the help you've offered to better
    our secret endeavors. When we have the means to be effective Spies, you shall rise to the highest possible position within C.O.C.K.; the esteemed "Luke 'Soap' MacTavish". Of course, I'll be Judge Price.

    Now, whip us Spies some goddamn Courthouses already. We'd like to help you take care of your "problems", Queen Enlightenedbum. And I will put forward this idea; if we could have a city built for Espionage specifically, we could be better at spreading our influence(or influenza) throughout the nations.

    ...Besides ours, respectively.

    I built a few spies. What happened to them?>

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    mrt144 wrote: »
    Judgement wrote: »
    silburnl wrote: »
    Well I'm too late to put the case for the institution of a Police State for the duration of the war, but I'm a little suprised that my esteemed superior within C.O.C.K didn't push for it. Oh well.

    We should retain our peculiar institution and unify state and religion - the hammer bonus will be useful for getting those courthouses set up.

    I look forward to seeing what kind of plan the Warlord proposes for the conquest of Portugal. Whatever it is, let's not forget to deny Joao the benefit of his iron mine at the earliest opportunity and if we can nick a worker or two from him all the better (actually, given EB's point about the queue of infrastructure projects that's building up, how many workers do we currently have? We're going to need a bunch to clear all that jungle at some point).

    I endorse the idea of getting missionaries into the Mayan cities - I forsee a time when Buddhists and Confucians shall work together in fraternal amity for the greater glory of the Egyptian civilisation (and trebles of culture all round)!

    Regards
    Luke

    I did not want to go for a Police state because, economically, we stand to gain more from a Representative state. Also, since your posting here for Spying material, I highly appreciate the help you've offered to better
    our secret endeavors. When we have the means to be effective Spies, you shall rise to the highest possible position within C.O.C.K.; the esteemed "Luke 'Soap' MacTavish". Of course, I'll be Judge Price.

    Now, whip us Spies some goddamn Courthouses already. We'd like to help you take care of your "problems", Queen Enlightenedbum. And I will put forward this idea; if we could have a city built for Espionage specifically, we could be better at spreading our influence(or influenza) throughout the nations.

    ...Besides ours, respectively.

    I built a few spies. What happened to them?>

    They sucked.

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  • shalmeloshalmelo sees no evil Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I vote for Slavery and organized religion. And if you could get a missionary over to Dickerdale when you have the chance, I can work on pumping out a few priests to go convert Pacal...

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  • Rawkking GoodguyRawkking Goodguy Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    silburnl wrote: »
    Hippie wrote: »
    Actually, now that Rawking mentioned it, what about trying to get our religion into Shakas cities?
    The Zulus are a way off (thankfully) and we're limited to having three missionaries at any one time, so Shaka should probably wait until we've got Confucianism nicely seeded amongst our closer neighbours.

    There might be a case for dropping a missionary into one of his core cities in the hope that it spreads from there without any further help however.

    Regards
    Luke

    However, the Zulus are much more likely to go to war on us than the Mayans if we attack Joao, meaning that sending our first three missionaries down there would probably be in our best interests. Also the Zulus recently converted, meaning that they probably only have one or two jewish cities, making it easy for us to convert them by just making a greater number of his cities Confucian. Finally, the Mayans have the Buddhist holy city, meaning that getting them to convert is going to take either their fearing our wrath or a significant bribe. The Zulus have no such thing, and are only Jewish because that's the sole religion that has reached their lands.

    Kicking out two missionaries (while our third slot is dedicated to converting our own cities, then the Mayans) and sending them to Zululand before we attack Joao has a good chance of having the Zulus attacking Joao instead of us. However, do we even have open borders with the Zulus? We can't exactly convert them without it.

    Edit: Mayans! This spy is burning out all his midnight oil currently...

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Maya! Not Aztecs. If it were Monty I would have rigged the voting and killed his ass already.

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  • mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    mrt144 wrote: »
    Judgement wrote: »
    silburnl wrote: »
    Well I'm too late to put the case for the institution of a Police State for the duration of the war, but I'm a little suprised that my esteemed superior within C.O.C.K didn't push for it. Oh well.

    We should retain our peculiar institution and unify state and religion - the hammer bonus will be useful for getting those courthouses set up.

    I look forward to seeing what kind of plan the Warlord proposes for the conquest of Portugal. Whatever it is, let's not forget to deny Joao the benefit of his iron mine at the earliest opportunity and if we can nick a worker or two from him all the better (actually, given EB's point about the queue of infrastructure projects that's building up, how many workers do we currently have? We're going to need a bunch to clear all that jungle at some point).

    I endorse the idea of getting missionaries into the Mayan cities - I forsee a time when Buddhists and Confucians shall work together in fraternal amity for the greater glory of the Egyptian civilisation (and trebles of culture all round)!

    Regards
    Luke

    I did not want to go for a Police state because, economically, we stand to gain more from a Representative state. Also, since your posting here for Spying material, I highly appreciate the help you've offered to better
    our secret endeavors. When we have the means to be effective Spies, you shall rise to the highest possible position within C.O.C.K.; the esteemed "Luke 'Soap' MacTavish". Of course, I'll be Judge Price.

    Now, whip us Spies some goddamn Courthouses already. We'd like to help you take care of your "problems", Queen Enlightenedbum. And I will put forward this idea; if we could have a city built for Espionage specifically, we could be better at spreading our influence(or influenza) throughout the nations.

    ...Besides ours, respectively.

    I built a few spies. What happened to them?>

    They sucked.

    Fucking shit.

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I'm playing a Civ 4 game myself and I realized I cut down trees if they give me 30 little hammers to productivity. A video game has helped me realize how easy it is to be worked into a frenzy over new resources - all forests should be cut down and developed. Drill, baby, drill?

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