I'm gonna do it tomorrow night to keep things vaguely organized. If you're a governor who won't be around tomorrow, throw me a PM.
Awesome, Ill be around. Hopefully we'll get a great person, hopefully a great prophet. Are you working the priests post obelisk?
I was busy yelling at Joao to stop building more fucking cities. My weakness in this game (and why I tend to stick at Monarch... I can win at Emperor, but it's tough for me) is micromanaging specialists and stuff. When I did check, I decided to let cities go to the happy cap (which is MUCH higher with Representation).
Pi-Dongbury hits the happy cap in two turns, I'll micro better then, or try to.
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Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
The AI in this game does circle jerk in the diplomacy screen a ton. By endgame, they all have like +16 with each other and +2 or -20 with you depending on how you reacted to their ridiculous demands. I feel like it always turns into you vs all of the computers towards the end. Oh and I am not sure if they did this in Beyond the Sword, but on playthroughs it always seems like instead of letting me murder them, the last few cities always vassal themselves to my worst enemy. Grrrrr I hate vassals. /rant.
Anways, you could just use your chariots and stay at war with Joao and just burn and pillage his entire countryside. A little pillaging perhaps? While we build up our economic resources.
I like the war coverage. Get the gem city then cap(itulate) Joao's remains? I don't think there's any reason not to get that beauty while we're at war.
Hmm. I can't see anything on the tech tree that might help improve our economy. Machinery, maybe, if you feel like building a lot of Windmills.
So... try to get Monarchy off Brennus, if the price is reasonable, then continue on to Feudalism.
However, I got my current position on promises of culture and religion and I keep my campaign promises. Therefore, I must say that, should the price for Monarchy to be too high, you should go with Philosophy, which will hopefully net us Taoism before anyone else gets it. After that, Literature, then Monarchy.
However, if you really do think Windmills will help improve the economy, you can insert Machinery wherever you like.
Hah, look at that. Looks like Joao converted to Buddhism after we took the city formerly known as Lisbon from him. What a silly goose, thinking Pacal will more likely help with the war than Shaka. Though if we took/razed all his jewish cities he may not have had a choice.
Pillage! Don't capture anything you plan on keeping, just run around like an asshole burning crappy cities and pillaging his countryside (bar things on resources). Do that until you can get Courthouses, then finish him off.
Update 5: I Fucking Hate Joao So Fucking Much. Real Life Portugal is Fucking Tiny, Developers. Were your Girlfriends Portuguese? Jesus.
Hehe hey Portugal had one of the earliest and largest global empires of all time, stretching (at least in name, largely due to the line of demarcation) from Brazil, through all of Africa, and to parts of India and Indonesia. At some point, iirc, they were also merged with the Spanish Empire for everything west of Brazil as well.
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Update 5: I Fucking Hate Joao So Fucking Much. Real Life Portugal is Fucking Tiny, Developers. Were your Girlfriends Portuguese? Jesus.
Hehe hey Portugal had one of the earliest and largest global empires of all time, stretching (at least in name, largely due to the line of demarcation) from Brazil, through all of Africa, and to parts of India and Indonesia. At some point, iirc, they were also merged with the Spanish Empire for everything west of Brazil as well.
Yeah yeah, I know. But still: stop expanding while your capital is being sacked, you bastard!
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Update 5: I Fucking Hate Joao So Fucking Much. Real Life Portugal is Fucking Tiny, Developers. Were your Girlfriends Portuguese? Jesus.
Hehe hey Portugal had one of the earliest and largest global empires of all time, stretching (at least in name, largely due to the line of demarcation) from Brazil, through all of Africa, and to parts of India and Indonesia. At some point, iirc, they were also merged with the Spanish Empire for everything west of Brazil as well.
Yeah yeah, I know. But still: stop expanding while your capital is being sacked, you bastard!
The AI with some traits...yeesh!
We should start thinking about what our victory strategy is gonna be. Im playing a prince level game right now and I'm in 1979 and never geared towards a victory type...which sucks cause Mansa has mech infantry and I just have regular infantry. I'm researching Fission though and rush building bunkers. :winky::winky::winky:
Update 5: I Fucking Hate Joao So Fucking Much. Real Life Portugal is Fucking Tiny, Developers. Were your Girlfriends Portuguese? Jesus.
Hehe hey Portugal had one of the earliest and largest global empires of all time, stretching (at least in name, largely due to the line of demarcation) from Brazil, through all of Africa, and to parts of India and Indonesia. At some point, iirc, they were also merged with the Spanish Empire for everything west of Brazil as well.
historically, the portuguese were kinda jerks, so it would make sense for Joao to be one, too.
The AI in this game does circle jerk in the diplomacy screen a ton. By endgame, they all have like +16 with each other and +2 or -20 with you depending on how you reacted to their ridiculous demands. I feel like it always turns into you vs all of the computers towards the end. Oh and I am not sure if they did this in Beyond the Sword, but on playthroughs it always seems like instead of letting me murder them, the last few cities always vassal themselves to my worst enemy. Grrrrr I hate vassals. /rant.
I pretty much always turn off Vassal States and Tech Brokering for these reasons. No tech brokering limits how often they can make ridiculous demands of you (which you refuse) and possibly each other.
Research isn't actually that bad, hard numbers wise. Anyway, yes, we should do better on that point.
If the empire is big enough, then 30% of it is equivalent to a bigger percentage of a smaller empire.
I do think we'll have had enough for now when we take the gem/metal city though. It looks like the other cities are in dense jungle so they won't be worth taking for a while and Joao will need to spend time making them useful himself.
The AI in this game does circle jerk in the diplomacy screen a ton. By endgame, they all have like +16 with each other and +2 or -20 with you depending on how you reacted to their ridiculous demands. I feel like it always turns into you vs all of the computers towards the end. Oh and I am not sure if they did this in Beyond the Sword, but on playthroughs it always seems like instead of letting me murder them, the last few cities always vassal themselves to my worst enemy. Grrrrr I hate vassals. /rant.
I pretty much always turn off Vassal States and Tech Brokering for these reasons. No tech brokering limits how often they can make ridiculous demands of you (which you refuse) and possibly each other.
Research isn't actually that bad, hard numbers wise. Anyway, yes, we should do better on that point.
If the empire is big enough, then 30% of it is equivalent to a bigger percentage of a smaller empire.
I do think we'll have had enough for now when we take the gem/metal city though. It looks like the other cities are in dense jungle so they won't be worth taking for a while and Joao will need to spend time making them useful himself.
Agreed. Take down Coimbra and then we can probably let Joao up off the mat. He won't be in a position to do any damage to us for centuries (if ever), and it wouldn't hurt to keep a buffer state between us and Shaka while we straighten out the economy a bit. Besides, his other cities look shitty. Might as well let the bastard do the work of making them half-decent. Then it might be worth our while to conquer them...
Coimbra and Guimaraes look to be worth keeping, the rest are junk if you ask me.
Can the war machine keep rolling long enough to completely take Joao out or are we going to have to take a breather? 'Cuz the way he spams cities is like bindweed, if we don't get him out by the roots now then we'll have to do it all over again in a century or two...
I started spamming catapults and general dudes. Once they all get to the front, we can crush him completely, yes.
OK. Then my policy recommendation is that we keep fueling the war machine on plunder until we've crushed Portugal utterly, then switch focus to getting our economy back on track.
Also: stop signing your post, it's making me insane.
If you want me to go undercover then you need to get the governors to build more spy gear so I can actually run some missions without getting my arse kicked from here to Sunday by the DCRI.
thanks to this thread i have discovered the awesomeness that is teching far ahead to something that may be useless for me but can be traded to everyone else for just about every tech below it.
While I would prefer an unconditional Portugese surrender of some sort, I'm afraid that out of these two options Genocide is the only reasonable one in the long run.
It appears that Los Wangeles is still a den full of heathens. While troubling, I suppose our citizens who die in the glorious war won't take up valuable real estate in the afterlife. If we do reach a point where we no longer need to send wave after wave of our people to overwhelm the kill limit of Portugal's defenders, I propose we build a forge followed by an obelisk. Perhaps with an engineer present, possibly a priest, we will no longer be required to break out the whips to construct our facilities and will merely do so for amusement.
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Awesome, Ill be around. Hopefully we'll get a great person, hopefully a great prophet. Are you working the priests post obelisk?
I was busy yelling at Joao to stop building more fucking cities. My weakness in this game (and why I tend to stick at Monarch... I can win at Emperor, but it's tough for me) is micromanaging specialists and stuff. When I did check, I decided to let cities go to the happy cap (which is MUCH higher with Representation).
Pi-Dongbury hits the happy cap in two turns, I'll micro better then, or try to.
Anways, you could just use your chariots and stay at war with Joao and just burn and pillage his entire countryside. A little pillaging perhaps? While we build up our economic resources.
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So... try to get Monarchy off Brennus, if the price is reasonable, then continue on to Feudalism.
However, I got my current position on promises of culture and religion and I keep my campaign promises. Therefore, I must say that, should the price for Monarchy to be too high, you should go with Philosophy, which will hopefully net us Taoism before anyone else gets it. After that, Literature, then Monarchy.
However, if you really do think Windmills will help improve the economy, you can insert Machinery wherever you like.
Excellent!
Hehe hey Portugal had one of the earliest and largest global empires of all time, stretching (at least in name, largely due to the line of demarcation) from Brazil, through all of Africa, and to parts of India and Indonesia. At some point, iirc, they were also merged with the Spanish Empire for everything west of Brazil as well.
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Yeah yeah, I know. But still: stop expanding while your capital is being sacked, you bastard!
The AI with some traits...yeesh!
We should start thinking about what our victory strategy is gonna be. Im playing a prince level game right now and I'm in 1979 and never geared towards a victory type...which sucks cause Mansa has mech infantry and I just have regular infantry. I'm researching Fission though and rush building bunkers. :winky::winky::winky:
:? Theres so much fog. Lets get a screencap of the victory screen.
historically, the portuguese were kinda jerks, so it would make sense for Joao to be one, too.
Once we are stable, then lets get back to our traditional ass kicking.
When the current Warlord is bringing this up, you know it needs looking at...
I know a specialist economy isn't the best toward the end of the game but right now, for the type of game we're playing it's pretty damn good.
I pretty much always turn off Vassal States and Tech Brokering for these reasons. No tech brokering limits how often they can make ridiculous demands of you (which you refuse) and possibly each other.
If the empire is big enough, then 30% of it is equivalent to a bigger percentage of a smaller empire.
I do think we'll have had enough for now when we take the gem/metal city though. It looks like the other cities are in dense jungle so they won't be worth taking for a while and Joao will need to spend time making them useful himself.
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Agreed. Take down Coimbra and then we can probably let Joao up off the mat. He won't be in a position to do any damage to us for centuries (if ever), and it wouldn't hurt to keep a buffer state between us and Shaka while we straighten out the economy a bit. Besides, his other cities look shitty. Might as well let the bastard do the work of making them half-decent. Then it might be worth our while to conquer them...
Can the war machine keep rolling long enough to completely take Joao out or are we going to have to take a breather? 'Cuz the way he spams cities is like bindweed, if we don't get him out by the roots now then we'll have to do it all over again in a century or two...
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Also: stop signing your post, it's making me insane.
What's wrong with signing stuff?
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I can strip your governor ship.
Mwahahahaha
Pi-Dongbury is not on a body of water :P
OK. Then my policy recommendation is that we keep fueling the war machine on plunder until we've crushed Portugal utterly, then switch focus to getting our economy back on track.
If you want me to go undercover then you need to get the governors to build more spy gear so I can actually run some missions without getting my arse kicked from here to Sunday by the DCRI.
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I don't really have any proposals for the cabinet. Um...
Genocide or give in after we take the gems city?
EDIT: Tomorrow's update will be late, it is board game night.
Also my que;
Statue of Zeus
Spy
Great Library
Catapult
Chariot
Spy
Chariot
Catapult.
Que Iron Maiden Music.
What better way to build the Egyptian cottage economy than on the backs of the former Portuguese.
"Cue". "Que" is never a word.
Que pasa?
En nuestra idioma, 'que' nunca es un palabra, pero hay otra idiomas.
Spanish is never a language.
It appears that Los Wangeles is still a den full of heathens. While troubling, I suppose our citizens who die in the glorious war won't take up valuable real estate in the afterlife. If we do reach a point where we no longer need to send wave after wave of our people to overwhelm the kill limit of Portugal's defenders, I propose we build a forge followed by an obelisk. Perhaps with an engineer present, possibly a priest, we will no longer be required to break out the whips to construct our facilities and will merely do so for amusement.
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