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[Let's Play] Civilization 4: Domination Victory!

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I'm going to go ahead and ask mrt144: would you like pink dot, blue dot, or some other location; and, (presuming the phallus law fails, we need Raiden's vote) a build order.

    By the time it's built, granaries will be available along with barracks, warriors, workers, and settlers. Walls might be, depending where he wants to put it.

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    mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I'm going to go ahead and ask mrt144: would you like pink dot, blue dot, or some other location; and, (presuming the phallus law fails, we need Raiden's vote) a build order.

    By the time it's built, granaries will be available along with barracks, warriors, workers, and settlers. Walls might be, depending where he wants to put it.

    I'm gonna go with the pink dot. While it doesn't have the production abilities right off the bat that I normally like for a second city, there aren't much better options at this point and it will secure important resources for us to enjoy and trade. It seems like we have a good amount of potential of food there, so my goal is to get the population up, run two priest specialists when possible so we can get hammers, great people points, and gold.

    I think we should do a build of

    Warrior->Granary->Worker (If we don't have at least 2 at this point)->Warrior->Obelisk->Worker->Barracks after copper-> Axemen

    Barracks are cool and all but only after we hook up the Copper do I want to build that.

    New residents, please give me some input and suggestions on this as your opinions and desires really do matter. I want the elite of our society to have a voice that his heard above the wailing of slaves.

    Whip as necessary but use common sense, obviously. I don't want bodies of slaves stacking up like kindling and annoying our residents because we just had to have that Obelisk 150 years earlier.

    As for worker improvements

    Cottage the Floodplains available (I know some might want farms here but long term, the cottage is better and doesn't present a huge opportunity cost to growth)
    Farm Grassland (I know that some might want cottages here but we need food to grow to the point of running specialists and whipping and working mines. We can always change this when cottages become awesome)
    Mine Hills and Copper, Stone and Camp Elephants
    Farm Plains for now but make this the lowest priority of worker action

    I see Pi-Dongbury being our main production city until a more suitable site is available, either from the benevolence of the Gods revealing it, or prying it from the cold, dead hands of our neighbors. Once we do that, we can look at shifting it towards a gold city and trade city.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Wouldn't Los Wangeles be better?

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Wouldn't Los Wangeles be better?

    I suddenly hope the current name fails as this is much better.

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    mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Wouldn't Los Wangeles be better?

    I suddenly hope the current name fails as this is much better.

    I'd vote for it as the 3rd City ;-)

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    If I could get similar posts from the other city name proposers, especially those with multiple votes, it would be appreciated.

    For reference, that's: Foomy, Steel Angel, and shalmelo.

    If you don't like blue dot and want to give me leeway to make a decision based on exploration, that also works. Exploration plan is to check the southwest and hopefully find a nice site to limit the Maya, as that's where they came from.

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    Smaug6Smaug6 Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Plus then you can say Los Wangeles is burning a la Bad Religion, once it slave revolts.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    mrt144 wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Wouldn't Los Wangeles be better?

    I suddenly hope the current name fails as this is much better.

    I'd vote for it as the 3rd City ;-)

    Not yours I mean, but the second place in today's vote (or first! There are still plenty of votes available, but having two names pass yours seems unlikely). As I prefer Los Wangeles to Los Dangledies.

    Anyway, as God Queen, my vote goes to Djonganet, which means Arkan should also submit a city plan. By the time it's built we will probably have Writing and thus libraries as well.

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    mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    mrt144 wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Wouldn't Los Wangeles be better?

    I suddenly hope the current name fails as this is much better.

    I'd vote for it as the 3rd City ;-)

    Not yours I mean, but the second place in today's vote (or first! There are still plenty of votes available, but having two names pass yours seems unlikely). As I prefer Los Wangeles to Los Dangledies.

    Anyway, as God Queen, my vote goes to Djonganet, which means Arkan should also submit a city plan. By the time it's built we will probably have Writing and thus libraries as well.

    Build orders should just be a series of if then statements, right?

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    For now it shouldn't be too serious, just give me a location and a build order. Once it's built I'll probably be PMing you a screenshot at the end of every update so you can think about things more seriously. I'll also give rough estimates of when techs will come on line once the Astrologer gives me a tech order.

    For example for tonight's update:

    Pottery ~8 turns
    Masonry ~8 turns
    Writing ~13 turns (though there will be some cottages and probably Pi-Dongbury to improve things by then)
    Alphabet ~35 turns

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    travathiantravathian Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    So I am providing one more list of techs after tonight's update correct?

    Is there a place for retired cabinet members or do we ride off into the sunset?

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    travathian wrote: »
    So I am providing one more list of techs after tonight's update correct?

    Is there a place for retired cabinet members or do we ride off into the sunset?

    You can run again, though you're unlikely to be re-selected (later on, you may have a better chance...). You can also try to get a governor's job. Or you can just go all elder statesman on us.

    And yes, you have one more update as the man in charge of science.

    This update will probably go until the discovery of Alphabet, at which point I will also need to give full details to the Chancellor on all kinds of things, but notably tech trades. This may mean the third choice for cities may also be built. I dunno.

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    FoefallerFoefaller Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Is it too late to join on the fun?

    If not, I'd like to be part of the Military

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Second post updated with new peoples.

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    mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I'm really excited at seeing the next update and what our map now looks like and what the resource outlook is for more cities.

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    chrono_travellerchrono_traveller Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Man I need to think up better city names if I'm ever gonna be a governor. 0 votes for me in the first one. :(

    Anyways, how exactly does one of the citizenry request a to build wonders?

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Once we have a wonder available I'll explain. Remind me when I make the update.

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    ecco the dolphinecco the dolphin Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    shalmelo wrote: »
    You missed another vote for Dickerdale, Eccccccccco (Kivutar, post 257). Not that I'm biased or anything...

    Hahaha, no, of course not. My mistake! I must have just glanced over it and thought it was just a quote.

    So right now, I think:
    [B]Votes:[/B]	[B]Name:[/B]
    7[COLOR=Blue].....[/Color]	Pi-Dongbury (aka New/Old Dongsbury)
    4[COLOR=Blue].....[/Color]	Los Danglelies
    2[COLOR=Blue].....[/Color]	East Schlongville
    2[COLOR=Blue].....[/Color]	Dickerdale
    2[COLOR=Blue].....[/Color]	Djonganet
    1[COLOR=Blue].....[/Color]	Los Wangeles
    1[COLOR=Blue].....[/Color]	Preg-naho
    1[COLOR=Blue].....[/Color]	Wangtopia
    1[COLOR=Blue].....[/Color]	Wangtropolis
    

    [B]Name:[/B][COLOR=Blue]..............................[/Color]	[B]By (at post):[/B]
    Pi-Dongbury (aka New/Old Dongsbury)[COLOR=Blue][/Color]	shalmelo (#279)
    Pi-Dongbury (aka New/Old Dongsbury)[COLOR=Blue][/Color]	chrono_traveller (#275)
    Pi-Dongbury (aka New/Old Dongsbury)[COLOR=Blue][/Color]	Ebfan (#274)
    Pi-Dongbury (aka New/Old Dongsbury)[COLOR=Blue][/Color]	Newres (#273)
    Pi-Dongbury (aka New/Old Dongsbury)[COLOR=Blue][/Color]	Dyscord (#269)
    Pi-Dongbury (aka New/Old Dongsbury)[COLOR=Blue][/Color]	MegaMek (#265)
    Pi-Dongbury (aka New/Old Dongsbury)[COLOR=Blue][/Color]	PaperLuigi44 (#250)
    Los Danglelies[COLOR=Blue].....................[/Color]	quarthinos (#277)
    Los Danglelies[COLOR=Blue].....................[/Color]	FunkyWaltDogg (#278)
    Los Danglelies[COLOR=Blue].....................[/Color]	Teriferin (#258)
    Los Danglelies[COLOR=Blue].....................[/Color]	Rizzi (#249)
    East Schlongville[COLOR=Blue]..................[/Color]	nikthenik (#270)
    East Schlongville[COLOR=Blue]..................[/Color]	Mr Fuzzbutt (#251)
    Dickerdale[COLOR=Blue].........................[/Color]	Kivutar (#257)
    Dickerdale[COLOR=Blue].........................[/Color]	Darian (#255)
    Djonganet[COLOR=Blue]..........................[/Color]	enlightenedbum (#289)
    Djonganet[COLOR=Blue]..........................[/Color]	WilDPanthA05 (#271)
    Los Wangeles[COLOR=Blue].......................[/Color]	Smaug6 (#288)
    Preg-naho[COLOR=Blue]..........................[/Color]	WotanAnubis (#267)
    Wangtopia[COLOR=Blue]..........................[/Color]	travathian (#281)
    Wangtropolis[COLOR=Blue].......................[/Color]	a5ehren (#276)
    

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    TeriferinTeriferin Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    If (when) Los Danglelies is defeated by Neo-Olde-New-Pi-Dongbury, I will throw my full support behind Los Danglelies v1.1, Los Wanglelies.

    Also, Curse you, WotanAnubis! Curse you and your well thought out arguments against Heraclion! We would have gotten away with it were it not for you and your meddlesome priests!

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    The thing is top two win, quite possibly top three if I play all the way to Alphabet.

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    Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I think we should have a second place runoff to decide between Los W/Dangeles.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    People may change their votes. There are a little less than six hours til I play the turns. (11:20 or 11:30 depending on who the guest is)

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    a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Switching my vote to Los Wangeles

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    TeriferinTeriferin Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    a5ehren wrote: »
    Switching my vote to Los Wangeles

    Ditto.

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    chrono_travellerchrono_traveller Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Switching my vote to Djonganet

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    mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Switching my vote to Djonganet

    What could I do to convince you not to change your vote :winky:

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    piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    My name is piL.

    I live by the cloak and dagger, and seek the dissolution of God Queen Hatshepsut's enemies.

    I should like to set up my base of operations in the new city we build, though I keep my eyes eastwards to the plump, feeble cities of Joao II to our east.

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    chrono_travellerchrono_traveller Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    mrt144 wrote: »
    Switching my vote to Djonganet

    What could I do to convince you not to change your vote :winky:

    If it makes you feel better, its because I didn't know we'd be going to runners up for the second city. I saw the popularity of Pi-Dongbury, so I figured that most wouldn't switch their vote, and I liked Djonganet more than those in second place, so I changed it.

    I realize this is a risky strategy and that if others adopt this strategy, I could "lose" in the sense that both candidates that I want to win get knocked out. But hey, I'm a risk taker. ;-)

    I just like city names that play along with the Egyptian theme. If we were playing the spaniards, I'd be all for Los Wangeles.

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    FoefallerFoefaller Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Since I haven't voted yet myself, Los Wangeles

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    By the way, I'm still giving credit to Steel Angel for the Los Wangeles name, even if it's a variant, under the semi established rule of Dongbury.

    Also, everyone will get a chance to move to the countryside after tonight's update. It's going to become a mess for me and the Royal Demographer! Fun times.

    Current order of founding:

    Pi-Dongbury
    Los Wangeles
    Djonganet

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    mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    By the way, I'm still giving credit to Steel Angel for the Los Wangeles name, even if it's a variant, under the semi established rule of Dongbury.

    Also, everyone will get a chance to move to the countryside after tonight's update. It's going to become a mess for me and the Royal Demographer! Fun times.

    Current order of founding:

    Pi-Dongbury
    Los Wangeles
    Djonganet

    The Rule of Dongbury!
    :lol:

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    DarianDarian Yellow Wizard The PitRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Dickerdale needs more love, a place where our culture will thrive, and artists and priests work as one to bring enlightenment and joy to the masses.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    90 minutes left!

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    KitsurubamiKitsurubami Winnipeg, MBRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Do you still have room for an artist in Arcadia?

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Should I put signups are never closed in the OP? I think maybe I should. I have to rework the whole thing tomorrow night, so I'll do it then.

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    ecco the dolphinecco the dolphin Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Bwahaha

    This is madness!

    As of #316:
    [B]Votes:[/B]	[B]Name:[/B]
    6[COLOR=Blue].....[/Color]	Pi-Dongbury (aka New/Old Dongsbury)
    4[COLOR=Blue].....[/Color]	Los Wangeles
    3[COLOR=Blue].....[/Color]	Los Danglelies
    3[COLOR=Blue].....[/Color]	Djonganet
    2[COLOR=Blue].....[/Color]	East Schlongville
    2[COLOR=Blue].....[/Color]	Dickerdale
    1[COLOR=Blue].....[/Color]	Preg-naho
    1[COLOR=Blue].....[/Color]	Wangtopia
    

    [B]Name:[/B][COLOR=Blue]..............................[/Color]	[B]By (# post):[/B]
    Pi-Dongbury (aka New/Old Dongsbury)[COLOR=Blue][/Color]	shalmelo (#279)
    Pi-Dongbury (aka New/Old Dongsbury)[COLOR=Blue][/Color]	Ebfan (#274)
    Pi-Dongbury (aka New/Old Dongsbury)[COLOR=Blue][/Color]	Newres (#273)
    Pi-Dongbury (aka New/Old Dongsbury)[COLOR=Blue][/Color]	Dyscord (#269)
    Pi-Dongbury (aka New/Old Dongsbury)[COLOR=Blue][/Color]	MegaMek (#265)
    Pi-Dongbury (aka New/Old Dongsbury)[COLOR=Blue][/Color]	PaperLuigi44 (#250)
    Los Wangeles[COLOR=Blue].......................[/Color]	Foefaller (#310)
    Los Wangeles[COLOR=Blue].......................[/Color]	a5ehren (#304)
    Los Wangeles[COLOR=Blue].......................[/Color]	Smaug6 (#288)
    Los Wangeles[COLOR=Blue].......................[/Color]	Teriferin (#305)
    Los Danglelies[COLOR=Blue].....................[/Color]	quarthinos (#277)
    Los Danglelies[COLOR=Blue].....................[/Color]	FunkyWaltDogg (#278)
    Los Danglelies[COLOR=Blue].....................[/Color]	Rizzi (#249)
    Djonganet[COLOR=Blue]..........................[/Color]	enlightenedbum (#289)
    Djonganet[COLOR=Blue]..........................[/Color]	chrono_traveller (#306)
    Djonganet[COLOR=Blue]..........................[/Color]	WilDPanthA05 (#271)
    East Schlongville[COLOR=Blue]..................[/Color]	nikthenik (#270)
    East Schlongville[COLOR=Blue]..................[/Color]	Mr Fuzzbutt (#251)
    Dickerdale[COLOR=Blue].........................[/Color]	Kivutar (#257)
    Dickerdale[COLOR=Blue].........................[/Color]	Darian (#255)
    Preg-naho[COLOR=Blue]..........................[/Color]	WotanAnubis (#267)
    Wangtopia[COLOR=Blue]..........................[/Color]	travathian (#281)
    

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    The Los names have been merged by imperial decree, whichever of the two leads will be the name in game.

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    mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I'll be willing to trade votes with anyone if they vote for Pi-Dongbury

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    FoomyFoomy Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    mrt144 wrote: »
    I'll be willing to trade votes with anyone if they vote for Pi-Dongbury

    I'll take you up on that, one vote for Pi-Dongbury in return for a vote of East Schlongville

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    mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Deal! I submit my vote for East Schlongville

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