Alyce's Mediocre Sandwich! Plastic Surgery, and Hotdog Noir. *UPDATE* 5/2

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  • TamTam Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    That Medusa one is great

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I can't remember if I posted this. I made this a while ago, but it always makes me laugh. Figured I'd put it here.

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  • Boston House PartyBoston House Party Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I love your watercolour pieces, the colouring's so warm and vibrant, and your swoopy lines have a real nice energy to them.

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  • earthwormadamearthwormadam ancient crust Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Yes, that Medusa piece is fantastico.

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  • MustangMustang Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I can't remember if I posted this. I made this a while ago, but it always makes me laugh. Figured I'd put it here.

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    Freakin Yum brand lollipops! That's the best name for a lollipop ever, I'd buy 5 of them on the spot.

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Annnnd, more.

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    Not sure if I'm done with this. I know I probably shouldn't be, but I have 2 other paintings I need to do, plus I need to finish my thesis, so I'm FREAKIN' OUT MAN. I'm freakin' out.

    Anyway, yeah. Crits, comments, usual stuff is always appreciated!


    Edit: Just noticed the photo. The painting is actually a lot darker and more contrasty in real life. Kind of weird how it's coming out like that in the photo. I'm going to have to do something about that.

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    3rd and 4th monsters of the series of paintings. By the end of this there should be 7 or 8 all together.

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    Critiques/comments...please.

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  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Auugghh I love that last one. I think the only real problem I have with any of these is that one area always seems to be at a hugely different level of finish than the other areas. On the last one its the teeth, one before that its the mouth, then the eyes. The pieces of yours that look best are the ones that have the same level of finish all around. Maybe build up everything at the same level, blocking everything in, building it all up at the same time? Rather than starting with one part (Even though that one part is the most fun)?

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  • TamTam Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I like the second one, but with the exception of the ear, the first one's features are almost totally flat. They look like they were painted onto a faceless mannequin.

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Kochikens-Yeah, I totally agree with you. Granted these were all pretty much rushed (the guy gave me a week to do those 3 paintings, plus a shitload of other work I had to focus on), but with that advice I can bring these more to a finished end.

    Tam- The faceless mannequin was what I was going for actually. It's why eyes were scratched into her head, but the lips and surrounding bone structure could definitely use some work to make it look more...life-like, I guess!

    Edit: Also, thanks! It feels like I haven't been getting many responses in this thread. it's nice to finally get some critiques, etc.

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  • TamTam Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Ah ok, the eyes makes sense then.

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Okay, here's the entirety of my thesis in the order it's being displayed.

    Hydra
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    Cyclops
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    Medusa
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    The Furies
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    The Sirens
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    The Minotaur
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    Critiques/comments are all welcome!

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  • SpawnbrokerSpawnbroker Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Wow, you actually ended up using all of my ideas when we were brainstorming about your thesis. I'm kind of flattered, really :oops:

    Edit: Since this is the first time I'm seeing the hydra, sirens, and furies, I have to say the hydra is probably my favorite. I really like what you did with the furies, especially the old man. Overall, really fantastic job!

    If anyone is going to be in NYC on April 14th you should go to Alyce's school art show. Meet the artist and all :P

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Thanks! And of course I used the ideas you put out there while we were brainstorming, because they were good ideas!
    I`m really unhappy with how I executed the sirens though. If I had more time I would have redone that piece. I dont mind the background, but with the sirens themselves, the shading is all fucked up on them. uuuhg. oh well.

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  • 28682868 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Not a critique per se, but I don't understand the now popular move for the Minotaur to have leg joints that articulate as if they were an actual bull's legs. That ain't how the Minotaur got down back in Crete.

    I blame D&D making them some monster race.

    Most art portrayed him as simply having the bulls head. Granted a few pieces *William Blake portrayed him as him with the full body of the bull, torso of the man, and head of the bull. Think Centaur style. Weird.

    I guess there is no wrong way, I just prefer the old Greek statues.

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Haha, yeah, i actually prefer the Greek statues as well, but I really just wanted to draw a bulky dude with hooves. It made working on this piece slightly more fun than if I were to draw a man with a bull head. Not sure why.

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  • earthwormadamearthwormadam ancient crust Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Man I just watched Gozu, speaking of creepy bull people.

    But yeah I really like these, the colors and texture are just pleasant to the eye. My only crit would be sometimes the shapes of certain things seems oversimplified. Like the minotaurs arm lacks any real definition, making it look kinda stretchy and elastic like, and it doesn't seem like it connects to the body in a believable way either.

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  • Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator mod
    edited April 2010
    Just to make a general comment, the character and color design of these are all really charming, but I think the next place you need to go to bring it to the next level (and you're going to hate me for this because it's boring), is some hardcore perspective work. You obviously know a bit out of perspective, but it feels like you're not yet so adept at it that it's become a natural thing in your drawing mindset, and that comes across in a few places. ex: the hydra's cubicle and the boss aren't in the same perspective as the rest of the cubicles, in the Medusa piece the guy sitting across from Medusa has a bigger head than the guy sitting down from him, the bingo table on the stage isn't in the same perspective as the rest of the tables, the minotaur seems to be wide, and it feels like you struggled putting the figure into a sort of very deep perspective. It's something that the average person won't notice at a conscious level, but something at the back of their mind will be telling them that, for whatever reason, it's not as strong as it could be.

    Now the risk here- and what you might fear- is that bringing very tight, technical perspective could kill the charm of the style; a valid concern- if you were too tight in treatment of it, it could serve to make the perspective too conspicuous, or lead to the style becoming generic. But it doesn't necessarily have to be so; I'd take a look at Steve Purcell's Sam and Max webcomic here for an example.

    He's got a very light, whimsical sort of design sense in his work, the same as what you seem to be going for- very charming, fun stuff. But look at his backgrounds, and the forms of his character and objects and you see that the reason that his picture making ability is so strong, is because he knows perspective so well, he can use it in a natural way that doesn't call attention to itself. You don't see all the effort and toil that went into it, as you do with most student work trying to demonstrate perspective. Part of what makes it so charming is that it's totally solid, but something that might have taken hours to work out, or spent years figuring out the principles- all that struggle and experience gets covered up, to make it look like he just dashed it off in 30 seconds, effortlessly.

    Where you need to be going now is delving into that boring, not-fun technical work, struggling past the awkwardness of getting used to it, so you can get that same effect.


    What I'd worry about here- and I have no reason to believe this is the case, but it's worth mentioning- is that while you're obviously having a lot of fun, and there's a lot of charm to the work that I and everyone here and I'm guessing your teachers are going to be digging it a lot- with that comes the risk of complacency. Why do boring, technical things you struggle with when everyone already digs the creative, fun work you enjoy doing? Lots of art students get caught in that trap, and on graduation find that they need more than charm, or art they enjoyed doing, or enthusiastic teachers in order to make a living doing art. At this point in your development I could see you plowing ahead and doing the hardcore perspective/life drawing/construction practice/anatomy and, combined with your aptitude for fun, charming stuff, becoming like Steve Purcell, a big name (he's a story artist at Pixar if he's new to you)- but I could also see you spend your art school time just continuing to have a lot of fun, but not living up to your potential, art/career wise- something that's all too often the case with art students.

    Again, I don't have any evidence to say that's necessarily the case, but it's something I'd be worried about, especially since you're showing a lot of creative work, but not a lot of work focused on technical challenges. That could just be a result of posting selectively, or it could be symptomatic of a larger issue, I don't know.

    Don't mean to be down on you (especially if it's an unwarranted concern), but I wouldn't bother going on about it if I didn't see a lot of potential that would be frustrating to see not lived up to.

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Oh man, thanks you guys. I've been struggling a lot with perspective, because, like you said AOB, it's fucking boring. I really need to take the time, and sit down, and really focus on the technical aspect of art, as it's ridiculously important.

    The thing about these most recent pieces, is that I was so restricted on time (the three most recent ones had to be done in less than a week), that not only did I not want to properly incorporate perspective (blerurgg), but I didn't have time to plan it out. But that's just an excuse, I suppose, and I hate giving those.

    Anyway, I really do want to get a proper grasp of this, and I think for the next couple of weeks (or more), since thesis is over, that's what I'm going to focus on. Yes, I still have other school work I need to do, and that'll be posted as well, but I'm going to spend my free time working on things that aren't currently being taught.

    Edit: I'll post more of my reply later. Gotta catch a movie!

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  • FANTOMASFANTOMAS Flan ArgentavisRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    The drawings I posted are all colored ink. Watercolor isn't opaque enough for me :P

    You are my new hero. I love coloured ink, but I cant et any quality coloured ink where I live... its like, coloured glue/plastic thing that feels awefull and doesnt mix with the few winsor&newton ink I have left :(

    Anyway, GREAT stuff!

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Thanks so much!

    The best ink I've used has been "Dr. Ph Martins". This is the exact product I use. They're a bit pricey (less so in the actual stores), but they're fantastic and blend really well. The brown (at least the one I got. mine may just have been a sucky batch or something) is that nasty gluey texture though like you described, so avoid that color.
    If you can't get those where you are, order them online. Totally worth the price, IMO, and they last forever.

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Taking a break from painting, and instead...baking?!

    Figured I'd bake some cookies for easter.

    Welp.

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    Excuse the shit pictures. Both cameras are dead.

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  • DeeLockDeeLock Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Oh Alyce, my heart belongs to thou!

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  • Nineteen HundredNineteen Hundred Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Oh my god. Oh my god.

    Alyce, I think I love you. That is too awesome.

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    There was something important here. It's gone now.
  • DeeLockDeeLock Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    She is my love interest, get out of here!

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    can't... can't we share?

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • MustangMustang Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Wait a god damned minute. These pictures have been changed! Shenannigans Alyce! Shenannigans!
    Show the stalkers your pretty face.

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  • Nineteen HundredNineteen Hundred Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    DeeLock wrote: »
    She is my love interest, get out of here!

    You can't even spell her name right!

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  • DeeLockDeeLock Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I haven't the slightest clue what you are babbling about.

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  • earthwormadamearthwormadam ancient crust Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Ha that second one is just the best thing.

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Hahah! I'm glad you guys like 'em!

    PS-They don't actually taste like zombies.

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  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Hahah! I'm glad you guys like 'em!

    PS-They don't actually taste like zombies.

    How do you know they don't taste like zombies?
    maybe zombies taste like baked goods!

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    because they taste like baby :shock:

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Kochikens wrote: »
    Hahah! I'm glad you guys like 'em!

    PS-They don't actually taste like zombies.

    How do you know they don't taste like zombies?
    maybe zombies taste like baked goods!


    Well in that case, if the zombie apocalypse ever happens, fuck guns. I'm eating EVERYTHING (everyone?)

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  • MustangMustang Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Zombies couldn't possibly taste like baked goods, cause then the humans would be eating the zom......bies.
    I just had a great idea for a horror movie!

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Om nom zom?

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Oops, I forgot to post a cookie!...

    DERP DERP

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  • DeeLockDeeLock Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Hahaha, that one's my favorite.

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  • ParadiseParadise Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Your thesis looks great, Alyce! More shading and muted tones worked wonders on your Gorgon piece.

    p.s. Send me summa dem cookies please. Can you ship them to NJ?

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Paradise wrote: »
    Your thesis looks great, Alyce! More shading and muted tones worked wonders on your Gorgon piece.

    p.s. Send me summa dem cookies please. Can you ship them to NJ?

    Haha, thanks! I'd totally ship cookies to NJ. It'll give me more excuses to bake :P

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