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X-Men Thread: Regenesis is here, Phil Collins or Peter Gabriel?

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I would say renumbering isn't a problem if you just run the series out without then reverting back to #600 or so in a year, by adding the new title and some other title to the tally.

    If you want a place to start, Marvel just released a third X-Men book last year.

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  • Magna InfernoMagna Inferno Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Commenting on Twitter, Gillen humorously stated that "When I joined Uncanny after S.W.O.R.D. I thought 'There's no way I can get THIS cancelled'. But there are no limits to my power."
    <3

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Uncanny X-Men to end with #544

    This just seems like a dumb idea, take the one book Marvel never renumbered and do it now because of Schism. I mean, people didn't find it hard to follow with #94 being a new point, or even #281 with the gold team or #394 with Casey's run. Hell, they didn't even do this when Seagle and Kelly were on the books, and there was pretty much no X-Men team because they literally had nothing in the mansion.

    On the other hand, if Greg Land leaves the new book, that might be worth it.

    new books, apparently

    plural

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  • mrmrmrmr nameless protagonist Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Huh. I guess I'm glad I'll still get most out of my subscription.

    And I guess Schism is the biggest event in years, even bigger than those other biggest events in years. I hope it really justifies this.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Furu wrote: »
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Uncanny X-Men to end with #544

    This just seems like a dumb idea, take the one book Marvel never renumbered and do it now because of Schism. I mean, people didn't find it hard to follow with #94 being a new point, or even #281 with the gold team or #394 with Casey's run. Hell, they didn't even do this when Seagle and Kelly were on the books, and there was pretty much no X-Men team because they literally had nothing in the mansion.

    On the other hand, if Greg Land leaves the new book, that might be worth it.

    new books, apparently

    plural

    4 main x-men books, that's just.....excessive.

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  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Antimatter wrote: »
    Weaver wrote: »
    Dear mutants, please stay out of space.

    yes

    keep out of space

    you do not belong there

    Man, I love X-men in space

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Uncanny X-Men to end with #544

    This just seems like a dumb idea, take the one book Marvel never renumbered and do it now because of Schism. I mean, people didn't find it hard to follow with #94 being a new point, or even #281 with the gold team or #394 with Casey's run. Hell, they didn't even do this when Seagle and Kelly were on the books, and there was pretty much no X-Men team because they literally had nothing in the mansion.

    On the other hand, if Greg Land leaves the new book, that might be worth it.

    new books, apparently

    plural

    4 main x-men books, that's just.....excessive.

    You're assuming that will be the case!

    Who knows what shit will be going on

    (c'monnnn young x-men book)

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  • 143999143999 Tellin' ya not askin' ya, not pleadin' with yaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Uncanny X-Men to end with #544

    This just seems like a dumb idea, take the one book Marvel never renumbered and do it now because of Schism. I mean, people didn't find it hard to follow with #94 being a new point, or even #281 with the gold team or #394 with Casey's run. Hell, they didn't even do this when Seagle and Kelly were on the books, and there was pretty much no X-Men team because they literally had nothing in the mansion.

    On the other hand, if Greg Land leaves the new book, that might be worth it.

    Maybe they're cutting Uncanny off just long enough to trick Land into leaving.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Commenting on Twitter, Gillen humorously stated that "When I joined Uncanny after S.W.O.R.D. I thought 'There's no way I can get THIS cancelled'. But there are no limits to my power."
    <3

    I love that man.

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    can we talk about how rad casey's run was

    because it was so rad

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Guys

    things are about to get weird

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    uXM is Gillen, WATXM is Jason Aaron.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I was about to think Marvel would split up Emma and Scott just for a fake sense of tension, but now I think that's not supposed to be an accurate picture of the teams. (because if so Scott's team would seriously kick Wolverine's ass)

    the girl behind Scott and Storm, is that Sentinel?

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  • GankGank Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Hmmmm.... It's only a promo, but if the sidings on that are any indication, this should be pretty interesting event. Magneto and Cyclops is understandable, but Iceman too? And Emma and Charlie siding with Wolverine? Is Wolverine gonna be leading the murderous X-force and the (for lack of a better word) pacifist X-men? Or is the Schism going to be deeper than "Your all 'brotherhoody' now so we're gonna bail"?

    I'm actually wanting this now. Damn it furu.

    Edit: I think it's maybe X-23?

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  • mrmrmrmr nameless protagonist Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Of course I'll follow both. But damn another series I gotta get. The DC relaunch is killing my wallet enough in Fall.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Gank wrote: »
    Hmmmm.... It's only a promo, but if the sidings on that are any indication, this should be pretty interesting event. Magneto and Cyclops is understandable, but Iceman too? And Emma and Charlie siding with Wolverine? Is Wolverine gonna be leading the murderous X-force and the (for lack of a better word) pacifist X-men? Or is the Schism going to be deeper than "Your all 'brotherhoody' now so we're gonna bail"?

    I'm actually wanting this now. Damn it furu.

    Edit: I think it's maybe X-23?
    Charles is split down the middle.

    Also, that is totally X-23.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    is it just me or is Emma looking oddly chummy with Wolverine there? I didn't think they got along that well.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    That's part of why I don't think that's the final team. It just seems so lazy by the writers.

    "Hey guys, let's split up the x-couples and have Scott, Betsy, and Gambit on one side, and Emma, Warren, and Rogue on the other! Wowie!"

    Hopefully one book's artist is Bachalo, the other is Dodson or Davis or Reilly Brown, just anyone but Land.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    it has the look of a happy family picture torn in half rather than a team roster

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    The creative teams seem to be Gillen with Land/Pacheco on Uncanny, Aaron and Bachalo on WatX.

    A Pacheco/Dodson team would have been perfect for Uncanny, but until then I guess I pick up WatX.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    man I hate it when they team up good writers with Greg Land. it makes me conflicted.

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  • mrmrmrmr nameless protagonist Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    So was Uncanny as it was actually cancelled? Or are they just relaunching it as this new one?

    Figures they'd do it after I set up my first subscription.

    On another note, got Legacy 250 in the mail today.
    Really digging the new roster. Moreso the arc of hunting down Legion's rogue personalities.

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  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    My quote of the week, from Mr Gillen: "I’m like Jesus and Lazarus, except if Jesus offed Lazarus first."

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  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    mts wrote: »
    it has the look of a happy family picture torn in half rather than a team roster

    I kinda feel like I've seen that pic before. Iceman looks especially familiar.

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  • ZeromusZeromus Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    So, I have a random X-Men question now that it's available digitally: is Brubaker's Deadly Genesis any good?

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    mrmr wrote: »
    So was Uncanny as it was actually cancelled? Or are they just relaunching it as this new one?

    Figures they'd do it after I set up my first subscription.

    On another note, got Legacy 250 in the mail today.
    Really digging the new roster. Moreso the arc of hunting down Legion's rogue personalities.

    They're ending it, taking a month off, and launching it from #1.

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Zeromus wrote: »
    So, I have a random X-Men question now that it's available digitally: is Brubaker's Deadly Genesis any good?

    NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

    (oh mamma mia mamma mia)


    seriously though it's garbage

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  • ZeromusZeromus Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Antimatter wrote: »
    Zeromus wrote: »
    So, I have a random X-Men question now that it's available digitally: is Brubaker's Deadly Genesis any good?

    NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

    (oh mamma mia mamma mia)


    seriously though it's garbage

    Yikes, glad I asked! May I ask why it's so terrible, though? I tend to like Brubaker.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    It's the very definition of a BS retcon to contintuiy, it kills off an established character in the second issue (though this is one of Brubaker's most common themes in his writing), the villain isn't compelling, and it just gives the sense that no one thought it through other than to address a dangling plot from 15 years ago that really didn't need to be answered.

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    it's relatively dumb, really

    not terrible

    just stupid

    you should read Herbie instead

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  • FaynorFaynor Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I liked the What If? they did about it at least, never read the original story

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  • mrmrmrmr nameless protagonist Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I actually liked it as a whole. Some parts were silly, and yeah, the whole retcon was unnessesary, but I kinda liked it.

    Also, it informs what leads to the "Rise and Fall of the Shi'Ar Empire" arc in later Uncanny X-Men (or Legacy, can't remember), which was also not bad, considering my distaste for "muties in space" arcs.

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Is the first arc of Generation Hope any good? I noticed the trade for it is already out.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    So, say someone wanted to keep up on what Rogue has been doing since Scarlet Witch made things go poof, where would one go?

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  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    X-Men Legacy mostly

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  • mrmrmrmr nameless protagonist Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Macro9 wrote: »
    X-Men Legacy mostly

    Pretty much yeah. Of course, she plays a big part in most of the big events like Messiah Complex and Second Coming. Ever since I started reading x-men after House of M I've gained a much bigger appreciation for Rogue, so much that she's probably one of my favorites.
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    Is the first arc of Generation Hope any good? I noticed the trade for it is already out.

    Gen Hope altogether is pretty good. The first arc is so far the highlight of it for me though. But if you haven't read "Birth of Generation Hope" arc in Uncanny X-Men you should because it sets up the characters.

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  • GankGank Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    Is the first arc of Generation Hope any good? I noticed the trade for it is already out.

    I enjoyed it, but I'm pretty easilly pleased. They've tweaked the power set so the kids don't just have your run of the mill flight, strength and lazer eyes. One of my biggest concerns about the series turned into the thing I like most about the book so far, Teon. The Wolverine/Sabretooth of the team, who is really neither of the two and more a big, over-protective dog who sees the worlds problems with only 3 solutions: Fight Flight, or Mate.

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I did read the "Birth of Generation Hope" Uncanny trade but dear Lord was the art awful for the most part. Freakin Greg Land did a much better job in the next arc but honestly I thought it wasn't too bad altogether. Much better than his recent stuff at least.

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Gen Hope is real good. Lots of fun, lots of plot potential, and the art is excellent.

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  • mrmrmrmr nameless protagonist Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Generation Hope I like so much because it's more of the "new mutants finding out about their powers, what they fight for/against, and the whole learning curve" that I love to death about X-Men. It's also why New X-Men (not Morrisons, but the other one) is one of my favorite series.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Really good Gillen and Aaron interview, despite some softball questions. Gillen actually answers stuff instead of going "wait and see" "big changes" and the usual writer lines.

    Essentially Uncanny X-Men is going to take the Astonishing route and be big time heroes everywhere, WatXM is going to be much more covert. Uncanny will still be in SF, Wolverine's team will probably be back in NYC. Uncanny will have nine main members with a supporting cast, no word yet on Wolverine's roster. Pacheco is drawing the first Uncanny arc.

    The big question this poses is this; if Uncanny is basically going hero, and Wolverine is kind of covert, there really is no need for the Gischler X-Men book, Astonishing, and X-Force (at least as it currently is). Hopefully Marvel culls some x-titles for October.

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