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X-Men Thread: Regenesis is here, Phil Collins or Peter Gabriel?

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Arivia wrote:

    Frank Cho needs to fix his Cyclops.

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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    i don't like either of the parties involved there

    which is sad because i normally like cyclops

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    I think Hope's kind of a brat

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    It feels rather forced compared to Gillen's writing between the two, where Hope is much more accepting of Cyclops being tougher and more protective of her because that's how she grew up and Scott is pretty much her grandfather. Even Asmus was able to get this across a year ago, that she was special so she can't be running off like that. Forced conflict for the sake of plot, maybe making Hope not want to take the Phoenix and runs to the Avengers.

    Oh hell, mutant Elian Gonzalez.

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    wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    The A vs. X-men 0 preview didn't seem that out-of-character for the two, at least for Scott. Hope clearly says she's a bitch in Generation Hope 12 so her acting bratty is to be expected.

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    TurambarTurambar Independent Registered User regular
    So, is Scott kind of Hope's grandfather?

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    Yep. Jean is usually seen as Nathan's mom because she was the one who raised him as a baby and in the future, so if Hope sees Nathan as her father, Cyclops is her grandpappy.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    wirehead26 wrote:
    The A vs. X-men 0 preview didn't seem that out-of-character for the two, at least for Scott. Hope clearly says she's a bitch in Generation Hope 12 so her acting bratty is to be expected.
    Well yeah, but that doesn't make me like her more.

    I really just don't like a lot of Scott's half of the X-Men's direction. Hope is a jerk who thinks she is morally in the right about everything and Scott is basically NewMagneto who is holding people in his basement indefinitely without trial on his independent mutant nation with his Extinction Team made up mostly of ex-supervillains.

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    TurambarTurambar Independent Registered User regular
    Would be cool if Scott went the route of Ultimate Reed

    Though that would never fly in the regular U

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Yeah I think the two of them have a lot in common, really

    Scott isn't suddenly Mutant Hitler or anything. He has just let the hard times of the past few years change him. He has made a bunch of compromises and, in my opinion, is worse off for it.

    I am really interested on how the X-Men are gonna be structured after AvX.

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    I think he works a lot better in his current role of everyone outside of his team thinking he's evil because they refuse to acknowledge the reality of the situation. Because character growth is good, we need more of it, beats old pouches Cyclops who was unsure of himself, taking a complete regression compared to the Claremont days.

    Cyclops wouldn't kill oodles of people in his current role like Ultimate Reed, he's not that far gone by a longshot (ha!).

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Reed is definitely the more evil of the two, yeah.

    Basically Scott is being a realist in a harsh world, which is a direction I understand but it isn't one I really like reading about. Which is fine since I am loving the way Wolverine's half of the family is heading.

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    TurambarTurambar Independent Registered User regular
    TexiKen wrote:
    Cyclops wouldn't kill oodles of people in his current role like Ultimate Reed, he's not that far gone by a longshot (ha!).

    Sure, but Reed wasn't evil until he was evil, either

    I was just saying it would have been fun to see Scott turn villain

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Eh

    I don't want Scott to do a full heel turn. Reed is perfect in the Ultimate U because he fills the gap left by Ultimate Doom, who was pretty meh. He is a villain who honestly has some decent ideas about things and is a lot more than just I AM EEEEVIL.

    Normal Marvel U has both Magneto and Doom to fill that need. No reason to drag Scott down to that level.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Man I hope AvX doesn't mess up WatXM.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Man I hope AvX doesn't mess up WatXM.
    Considering Jason Aaron is one of the two main guys behind the event I am sure it will be fine

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    I have no idea who the last page reveal was in X-Force #21.

    But Widget shows up for two panels, and a really good Frazetta joke is delivered.

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    143999143999 Tellin' ya not askin' ya, not pleadin' with yaRegistered User regular
    In my perfect world, Hope goes full Dark Side, Kid Apocalypse takes her down, and poor Cable is like, "Wait, what?"

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    ArchonexArchonex No hard feelings, right? Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Arivia wrote:

    Wait, what the hell? Cyclops never told Hope what the hell the Phoenix does to its hosts if they can't contain/work with it?

    Jesus christ. Fuck it, he's gone full on super-villain already. You'd think having to put down his wife, having the cuckoo's go nuts and have the equivalent of their souls stripped away from them to contain it, and watching the Phoenix commit infanticide, amongst other atrocities, would give him an idea of how bad an idea that is.

    Calling it now. The thing that's going to make Hope go crazy evil isn't all the bullshit she has to go through, it's realizing that Cyclops basically just set her up to be a sacrificial lamb.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    This is assuming that the Immortal Iron Phoenix doesn't happen
    it probably won't but I can dream

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    ArchonexArchonex No hard feelings, right? Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    I wonder if they're going to explore Emma's newfound grudge with Jean and the Phoenix. Or if that'll get forgotten along with everything else.

    I mean, she watched the Phoenix burn all of her children to cinders. Or that her three surviving kids are pretty much soulless automatons now, that she has to work with every day. Nevermind that she's probably pretty much incapable of having kids now because of that whole debacle.

    Going off of that last line she gave, one assumes she's got one hell of a psychic assault ready to go the moment either Jean or the Phoenix sets foot on Earth.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Was Emma ever as powerful as Jean? I thought Jean was always above her level.

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    FaynorFaynor Registered User regular
    Emma's received a few power upgrades over the years

    Telepathy, depending on how it's portrayed, can also kind of be like a fist fight

    If, a stronger telepath (ie Jean) wasn't expecting an attack, then they might get sucker punched

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    AutomaticzenAutomaticzen Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote:
    Basically Scott is being a realist in a harsh world, which is a direction I understand but it isn't one I really like reading about. Which is fine since I am loving the way Wolverine's half of the family is heading.

    This is the truth of the situation, which is why I keep wondering why people think Cyclops is a villain.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    I like where Cyclops is going and don't consider him a villain

    Hope, who is a great character, is morally all over the place. I wonder what they will do with her

    If she became a villain, I would applaud such creative courage

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    Hope just hasn't really had the success Marvel intended her to have; she's this new character who's kind of a mary sue, and the repeated teasing with Jean and the Phoenix feels less like a interesting idea and more of a "well, here we go again" situation.

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    AutomaticzenAutomaticzen Registered User regular
    Solar wrote:
    I like where Cyclops is going and don't consider him a villain

    Hope, who is a great character, is morally all over the place. I wonder what they will do with her

    If she became a villain, I would applaud such creative courage

    And would make Bishop right.

    That's be an interesting OH LOL! moment for the X-Men.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
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    Mephisto has quickly become one of my favorite Marvel villains after all of the excellent writers tackling him over the past year

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    AriviaArivia I Like A Challenge Earth-1Registered User regular
    That's…New Mutants?

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Yup.

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    AriviaArivia I Like A Challenge Earth-1Registered User regular
    Too many good comics, too little money. Rrrrrr.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    So the cover of X-Men Legacy's AvX tie-in has Rogue brawlin it up with She-Hulk.
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    Shulk image here: http://www.comicsvanguard.com/

    Since Jen isn't a part of an Avengers team it kind of solidifies that AvX is pretty much The X-Men vs. Everyone who is not an X-Man

    which is something I am okay with since the Avengers have been slowly moving towards that over the past few years with the expanding rosters.

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    wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    I think I'm just going to start reading UXM from issue 5 onward and trade wait the first arc. Will I be missing anything big?

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    AriviaArivia I Like A Challenge Earth-1Registered User regular
    you know, I have to give the colourist/editor/letterer credit for making Uncanny X-Men #6's cover look like something old and almost Stan Lee-ish despite Greg Land delivering Orgasm Psylocke Barbie front and center

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Yeah she really is having a good time on that cover isn't she

    It's not even like she is lying there and looking happy and hoho she could be getting off

    She looks pretty much exactly like she is having an orgasm. Crossed legs and everything.

    Jesus Christ Land, why are they still paying you

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    I'm really curious where he traced that armor design from.

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    He traced it from Orphan Maker or those Cameron Hodge robots from the 80's X-Factor (whichever one had the smiley faces on them).

    And from what I've seen of the Avenging Spider-Man #4 issue, it looks like Land is tracing Kev Walker's art for Hawkeye.

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    AriviaArivia I Like A Challenge Earth-1Registered User regular
    man I really want to find space for x-men legacy in my pull. Baldeon's art is growing on me, and I really like this friendship Gage is taking up between Rogue and Rachel Grey.

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    Hello WaterfaceHello Waterface Sweet Little Rock 'n' Roller In the timbers of FennarioRegistered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote:
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    Mephisto has quickly become one of my favorite Marvel villains after all of the excellent writers tackling him over the past year

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    WatXM #5, that was an issue that really showed how 20 pages can hurt a book, as it cuts off the interesting Kitty story for a connecting four page new villain reveal that just stopped all the momentum of the book. It was something I expected out of a DCnU book, to be honest.

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