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So, Zune tech thread.

DrezDrez Registered User regular
edited January 2007 in Games and Technology
I guess enough people own a Zune for a Zune help/tech thread, perhaps? I know there's an impressions thread floating around, but the thing has been around long enough by now that people know what it is and I think that thread has died down.

Anyway, I got one for Christmas and have been fiddling around with it and the Zune Marketplace for the last couple of weeks. I also have a Zune Video Converter program (Xilisoft Zune Video Converter 3, to be precise) and the Xilisoft Zune To DVD Converter as well.

A few problems I'm running into:

1) Isn't the Zune supposed to support AVC video? Whenever I convert from DVD to AVC or from one video format to AVC, the Zune software recognizes the .MP4 file, but it has to reconvert. I don't know what the fuck it's doing, because the Xilisoft software puts it in the proper resolution, and it's supposed to have converted with Zune-compatible settings. This conversion within the Zune software takes a long-ass time.

2) Same thing happens with some .WMVs that I've converted to using the Xilisoft converter. You can select Zune AVC or Zune WMV, and sometimes the WMV will just sync up immediately, but often you will have to convert. What gives?

3) Is there any way to change the name of a track or video file or reorganize photos once you've synced them to the Zune?

4) Fuck off, Terrorbyte.

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  • HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I would tell you if Microsoft had decided to sell Zunes in Canada.

    Unfortunately they did not. :(

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited January 2007
    iPhone! WOOO!


    I guess the Zune is okay...

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  • GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I'm not paying PS3 prices for a phone.

    Fuck, I'm not paying PS3 prices for a PS3.

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  • KaseiusKaseius Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    For videos, there is a setting in the options to allow it to automatically reconvert videos to lower quality if it feels that it should, have you tried disabling that or setting it to the maximum quality? That might work.

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  • GoldAgainstTheSoulGoldAgainstTheSoul Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    don't use xilisoft.

    it's buggy shite.

    use the zune video converter.

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  • ThreepioThreepio New Westminster, BCRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Hardtarget wrote:
    I would tell you if Microsoft had decided to sell Zunes in Canada.

    Unfortunately they did not. :(

    This one can't be chalked up to Microsoft. There were licensing difficulties - similar to the difficulties Apple has has with iTunes TV shows and Movies.

    It doesn't look like this situation will change any time soon - but that really doesn't matter due to our status as a haven for "teh piracy". :roll:

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  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    oh it can too be chalked up to microsoft

    you dont see apple holding back sale of the ipod itself here just because there are issues with the online content delivery store.

    its a clusterfuck to not be releasing a major product like this simultaneously in Canada.

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  • GoldAgainstTheSoulGoldAgainstTheSoul Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    excuse me the alive zune video converter.

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  • victor_c26victor_c26 Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Isn't there converter software out there that can handle MKV/avi wrapped divx and xvid files?

    A friend of mine bought a Zune and he likes his pr0n on the go.

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  • Crazy Old MoriseCrazy Old Morise Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I really really really want a brown Zune, because the box and UI is so tempting. But I think I'm just gonna wait to see how the 2G zunes and 6G ipods turn out, seen's how my video iPod is only half a year old.

    Has Microsoft alleviated any of the software problems yet? The engadget review made it seem like it was a miniature hell on earth.

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  • MattieMattie Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Threepio wrote:
    Hardtarget wrote:
    I would tell you if Microsoft had decided to sell Zunes in Canada.

    Unfortunately they did not. :(

    This one can't be chalked up to Microsoft. There were licensing difficulties - similar to the difficulties Apple has has with iTunes TV shows and Movies.

    It doesn't look like this situation will change any time soon - but that really doesn't matter due to our status as a haven for "teh piracy". :roll:

    Really? Dammit I wanted one.

    So what are my other options for a portable device with a good screen that'll play music and video?

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Hopefully this Zune thread will stay on-topic and intelligent.

    So, anyone out there with song-swapping stories?

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  • OtakuD00DOtakuD00D Can I hit the exploding rocks? San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I like my Zune. ; ;

    Apparently the next update gets rid of 3x3 sharing for non-Marketplace music. GOOD.

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  • GoldAgainstTheSoulGoldAgainstTheSoul Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    PostPosted: Today - 10:04 pm Post subject: Re: So, Zune tech thread.
    Isn't there converter software out there that can handle MKV/avi wrapped divx and xvid files?

    A friend of mine bought a Zune and he likes his pr0n on the go.

    http://www.alivemedia.net/zune-video-converter.htm

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  • projectmayhemprojectmayhem Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I want to play with one of these really bad.

    Does microsoft sell refurbished ones like apple does with ipods?

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  • OtakuD00DOtakuD00D Can I hit the exploding rocks? San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Anyone know of a good, FREE converter that converts MKV files? This one doesn't. : P

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  • AllforceAllforce Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    OtakuD00D wrote:
    I like my Zune. ; ;

    Apparently the next update gets rid of 3x3 sharing for non-Marketplace music. GOOD.

    Whoa whoa so any of MY 10,000 plus songs that I DIDN'T buy on the marketplace can be given to any other Zune user? Like stuff I rip from CDs and what not? Because that would be pretty sweet.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Allforce wrote:
    OtakuD00D wrote:
    I like my Zune. ; ;

    Apparently the next update gets rid of 3x3 sharing for non-Marketplace music. GOOD.

    Whoa whoa so any of MY 10,000 plus songs that I DIDN'T buy on the marketplace can be given to any other Zune user? Like stuff I rip from CDs and what not? Because that would be pretty sweet.

    Apparently.

    So is there no way to rename videos that you've already synced? I never got an answer on that.

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  • The TommyThe Tommy Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    OtakuD00D wrote:
    Anyone know of a good, FREE converter that converts MKV files? This one doesn't. : P

    Search for "Xbox 360 converter VLC" or something similar. Using VLC (video player) and a batch file, you can convert almost anything (including MKV) into a WMV, which will at least play on a Zune.

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  • TorbidTorbid Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Drez wrote:
    So is there no way to rename videos that you've already synced? I never got an answer on that.

    If you rename the video in the zune software with right click > edit, then sync, it renames them.

    Anyone else's zune "lag" a lot? Mine will hang randomly while browsing menus or switching screens, occasionally even getting then circle of dots loading screen briefly. Also, my Zune seems to turn off with static electricity, and needs to be reset afterwards.

    I've read this is a common issue.. but I hope it can be fixed with firmware.

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  • Lucky CynicLucky Cynic Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Rygar wrote:
    iPhone! WOOO!


    I guess the Zune is okay...

    Thanks for contributing to the thread, you may now leave it. I'll cover from here.

    The only way I got my DvD's from my collection to Zune was to rip them and them save them as .avi. It works, but is verrrrrry fucking time consuming.

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  • TorbidTorbid Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Rygar wrote:
    iPhone! WOOO!


    I guess the Zune is okay...

    Thanks for contributing to the thread, you may now leave it. I'll cover from here.

    The only way I got my DvD's from my collection to Zune was to rip them and them save them as .avi. It works, but is verrrrrry fucking time consuming.

    Yeah, a simple way to do this would be great.. I know the long ways, but does anyone know of an app that will do it in one shot?

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Torbid wrote:
    Drez wrote:
    So is there no way to rename videos that you've already synced? I never got an answer on that.

    If you rename the video in the zune software with right click > edit, then sync, it renames them.

    Anyone else's zune "lag" a lot? Mine will hang randomly while browsing menus or switching screens, occasionally even getting then circle of dots loading screen briefly. Also, my Zune seems to turn off with static electricity, and needs to be reset afterwards.

    I've read this is a common issue.. but I hope it can be fixed with firmware.

    Ok, so it doesn't go through the whole reconversion process when you do that? It'll just change the name?

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Torbid wrote:
    Rygar wrote:
    iPhone! WOOO!


    I guess the Zune is okay...

    Thanks for contributing to the thread, you may now leave it. I'll cover from here.

    The only way I got my DvD's from my collection to Zune was to rip them and them save them as .avi. It works, but is verrrrrry fucking time consuming.

    Yeah, a simple way to do this would be great.. I know the long ways, but does anyone know of an app that will do it in one shot?

    Xilisoft Zune DVD Converter 3 actually works well.

    I'm going to try that Alive converter now though.

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  • TorbidTorbid Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Yeah, it will just rename them.

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  • CrayonCrayon Sleeps in the wrong bed. TejasRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Yeah, my zune does lag sometimes, but I just chalk that up to a natural occurrence really. It seems it lags the most when I randomize my entire playlist as opposed to just playing one album or artist.

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  • GoldAgainstTheSoulGoldAgainstTheSoul Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    i've found most xilisoft products to be highly buggy and shoddy.

    their dvd ripper is ok but thats because its been through 30 versions.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Just want to share that I found a great app for the zune call zunemytube.

    It's an app that converts youtube, google videos and what not into wmv for easy recognition by the zune software. It's nice because it places a button right in the tool bar, and all you need to click on it, and then wait till it downloads and it'll show up on the Zune software ready to be synched. No converstion needed.

    The downsides is that it can be slow (though it doesn't seem to take almost any resources), and only works for IE.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Kyougu wrote:
    Just want to share that I found a great app for the zune call zunemytube.

    It's an app that converts youtube, google videos and what not into wmv for easy recognition by the zune software. It's nice because it places a button right in the tool bar, and all you need to click on it, and then wait till it downloads and it'll show up on the Zune software ready to be synched. No converstion needed.

    The downsides is that it can be slow (though it doesn't seem to take almost any resources), and only works for IE.

    Does it work through an IE emulated tab within FireFox?

    Or does it, like, integrate into IE?

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  • TxdoHawkTxdoHawk Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    OtakuD00D wrote:
    I like my Zune. ; ;

    Apparently the next update gets rid of 3x3 sharing for non-Marketplace music. GOOD.

    Does anybody have a source for this info? I can't imagine the record companies not throwing a shit fit over this one.

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  • EntropyLovesMeEntropyLovesMe Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    TxdoHawk wrote:
    OtakuD00D wrote:
    I like my Zune. ; ;

    Apparently the next update gets rid of 3x3 sharing for non-Marketplace music. GOOD.

    Does anybody have a source for this info? I can't imagine the record companies not throwing a shit fit over this one.

    The are throwing a shit fit.

    Unfortunately, it's the independents that will be hit the hardest.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Drez wrote:
    Kyougu wrote:
    Just want to share that I found a great app for the zune call zunemytube.

    It's an app that converts youtube, google videos and what not into wmv for easy recognition by the zune software. It's nice because it places a button right in the tool bar, and all you need to click on it, and then wait till it downloads and it'll show up on the Zune software ready to be synched. No converstion needed.

    The downsides is that it can be slow (though it doesn't seem to take almost any resources), and only works for IE.

    Does it work through an IE emulated tab within FireFox?

    Or does it, like, integrate into IE?

    It integrates into IE. You also have to download that net passport thing, so I'm assuming it's IE only for the time being. Still, it's worth it just for the convenience.

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  • ihdihd Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I am so pissed off right now.

    I've been using the excellent dSHARPiE to set up the metadata for my encodes of The West Wing, and it's been doing a good job of it. I highly recommend it for all your Zune video metadata needs.

    Anyway.

    I was tagging my files like so:
    Video Type: TV Show
    Video Title: The West Wing 4x01
    Episode Title: 20 Hours In America, Part I
    Which I've recently discovered, funnily enough, is incorrect for TV series. The Zune device uses the Video Title tag as the name of the series - so if I want the Zune to group my videos by series name, I'll have to retag everything like so:
    Video Type: TV Show
    Video Title: The West Wing
    Episode Title: 4x01: 20 Hours In America, Part I
    And I did so, and everything was fine until I noticed that in the episode list, episode 3 was above both episode 1 and 2.

    After a bit of digging - it would appear that the Zune doesn't drive the order of the list based on the Episode Title so much as it drives it on the date the video files were created. Also, the Episode Title tag is not exposed in the Zune software, so I've got a whole season's worth of West Wing episodes that I can't distinguish between. Fucking. Retarded. :x

    Any ideas as to how I can put them in order? I was thinking I could copy the files elsewhere on my computer, but I'm not really sure as to whether that'll work...

    edit: Found a tool - AttributeMagic. That said, I have less of an idea as to what drives episode lists than I had before, as it's not working the way I thought it would. :?

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