Killing the trees at the last point is a good idea, but at the second point you can hide in the patch of trees between the construction yard and the second objective and ambush attackers. A friend, as medic, hid out there for almost 10 minutes just killing everyone who ran by. Eventually I joined him and we just chilled there killing everyone. It was pretty awesome untill the second tank drove by and started mowing down the trees and bushes.
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SenshiBALLING OUT OF CONTROLWavefrontRegistered Userregular
edited February 2010
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1) Kill all trees. Trees are not your friends. They herald your doom and conceal your foes. Man those mounted machine guns and cut down those leafy, silent traitors as soon as humanly possible. Form up grenade launcher and RPG regiments to blow those barked bastards back to the stone age. Once those evil things are disposed of, and the earth salted in their place, the attacking force will have a much harder time moving forces up in place to strike quickly. You will have much better warning. Their ATVs and Tanks will come under more precise fire. Trees are an agent of the enemy and must be destroyed.
2) Get one squad or so to camp the base of Sniper-Hill. Get 3 medics and 2 assault. Lay down ammo and medpacks and start chucking grenades like if you keep doing it you're going to win something. Because, god damnit, snipers need to die. The rocks provide a fairly defensible area as long as you cover one another.
3) Deny the enemy his precious machines. It is of the utmost strategic importance to not only remove the enemy's ability to bring the mechanized part of "mechanized infantry" to the front, but also the keep him neutered. Make every effort to not destroy that ATV rider's C4 blingged out ride, but to shoot him from it and claim it as your own. Make it a trophy. Do laps around point B and lord your fresh wheels over other grounded troops. But most importantly keep it safe and it won't respawn for them to turn against you. Like the girl at the bar your friend is hitting on you must make her your own. Park it behind the under-construction building and strengthen your grasp and the dying enemy. This goes doubly so for the tank and BDMA. Much harder to capture, but ever so worth. Make every effort to cripple but not kill those pieces of armor. They are the golf trophies with which you will bludgeon the attackers to death with.
4) Go engineer. It is a thing of beauty to tag a tank and then see, almost simultaneously, 3 rockets shoot to the skies and make an immediately and deadly 90 degree turn to ruin some poor guy's day. Also, if you're recon you should be calling in mortar strikes. Is your mortar strike on cool down? No? Then call one in, Nancy. They're unlimited and you're not going to be C4'ing anything while you're hiding in the under-construction building.
I'd like the add that a majority of players, should protect B. I'm not saying all of them should protect B, but players have yet to realize that A. is practically a free capture, since all the attackers have to do is spam mortors on it and they'll get it. B, They'll HAVE to get to it to destroy it.
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Fuck using the mounted MG's to drop those trees. That's all too slow. I prefer to use the Apache for a little de-forestation. rockets shot in the forest can make quick work of all the trees. Then those leafy green Benedict Arnold's can't help the enemy in any way!
They should have green peace show up when you start annihilating entire forests. I've always wanted to put a 40mm grenade round into a group of those hippies.
i have a an idea of loading it up with C4 and slamming it into a building and detonating it. but of course, only after it takes like 12 C4 to blow up the point. it's a little cheesy but it seems pretty awesome.
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Mostlyjoe13Evil, Evil, Jump for joy!Registered Userregular
edited February 2010
Okay, asked this before but I am curious. Is anyone going to play this on the PS3?
I like keeping the blackhawk exactly where it is, and just man its gatling gun of rape
or keep my crosshairs on the pilots seat and kill the enemy as they constantly jump into it, hoping to steal it. they never learn
You should try using that MG that over looks A in the final part of the map. It's a fantastic weapon to use, be it to protect A from the attackers, or to protect A from the defenders.
Nobody uses it either, which I'll just chalk up to the general stupidity of a majority of the players who play the game.
i have a an idea of loading it up with C4 and slamming it into a building and detonating it. but of course, only after it takes like 12 C4 to blow up the point. it's a little cheesy but it seems pretty awesome.
Says the man that thinks the best use of the mounted machine gun is killing ATVs, not trees. :zzz:
As much as I love this game, battlefield games are constant reminders of why I hate 90% of the people in an average pub game. They have no concept of what the vehicles should be used for damnit..
Case and point: Despite the fact that I was consistently getting 10+ kills per life using the bradley, another chap decided it was better used as a decoy to kill 1 maybe 2 guys. He was doing this by taking the bradley, driving it near where the enemies would be, sticking C4 to it, and leaving it there. Someone jumps in, boom he blows it up.
Idiots be doing the same thing with the blackhawk, even after I flew it around with 2 guys manning the guns and we kept the entire enemy team at bay by circling the objectives and dropping anything wearing boots. Even pulled off a rather impressive maneuver of getting low enough to the ground to hover around one of the objectives so the gunners could fire through the windows. Had we not done that our team would have lost the objective we were trying to protect. Yet the second we were downed and the thing respawned some idiot packed it full of C4 and flew it into a tank.
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So I just read that Kotaku single player preview as well. Where does that guy get off saying it looks so much worse than MW2? MW2's beauty is simply in it's textures. The map geometry and general architecture is so fucking flat and blocky that I don't get why everyone thinks it's so damn pretty. The character models look good, but frankly I always thought the environments were rather bland and not terribly pretty. Whereas BC2's character models may not be as detailed, but the environments are considerably bigger, with far more complex geometry and they still managed to make it look as good as it does.
I will say MW2's texture work is a bit better too.
Case and point: Despite the fact that I was consistently getting 10+ kills per life using the bradley, another chap decided it was better used as a decoy to kill 1 maybe 2 guys. He was doing this by taking the bradley, driving it near where the enemies would be, sticking C4 to it, and leaving it there. Someone jumps in, boom he blows it up.
Case and point: Despite the fact that I was consistently getting 10+ kills per life using the bradley, another chap decided it was better used as a decoy to kill 1 maybe 2 guys. He was doing this by taking the bradley, driving it near where the enemies would be, sticking C4 to it, and leaving it there. Someone jumps in, boom he blows it up.
That's pretty awesome actually
Yea if you're a silly goose. Why would you sacrifice one of the best defensive items given to your team for a couple of kills when, if you use it right, you can get 5x+ that amount in a single life. You'd have to be clinically insane to think that's a good trade off.
Yea attackers blowing up defenders equipment and vice versa is cool. But why the fuck would you sacrifice your own teams shit just to get 1 or 2 kills? That just seems utterly stupid to me.
I dunno did you think, like, logically about it? Normally the timer is, I don't know exactly, but longer than 2 seconds. Like arming probably takes one second. Then waltzes in you, Vitamin B, and you take a second to throw some C4 on a target that, in actuality, is not meant to be used to blow up objectives and they lose the point without any warning. It's like a free 25 tickets.
You get three people doin' that and you'll never go under 80 tickets. Three out of supposedly, realistically, six to eight people actually attacking the points, actually working towards the objectives, that instantly kill it. And this isn't even the first point where you can mortar and all-terrain C4 the points.
Case and point: Despite the fact that I was consistently getting 10+ kills per life using the bradley, another chap decided it was better used as a decoy to kill 1 maybe 2 guys. He was doing this by taking the bradley, driving it near where the enemies would be, sticking C4 to it, and leaving it there. Someone jumps in, boom he blows it up.
That's pretty awesome actually
Yea if you're a silly goose. Why would you sacrifice one of the best defensive items given to your team for a couple of kills when, if you use it right, you can get 5x+ that amount in a single life. You'd have to be clinically insane to think that's a good trade off.
Because it's funny and completely unexpected? I mean come on, it's just a game.
The attacking dude who left C4 laying on the apache's spawn pad was a horrible person and a genius.
That's different. That's booby trapping the ENEMIES vehicles. I believe what strategery was getting at was his teammates booby trapping their OWN vehicles instead of using them. Sure, the attacker could have used the Apache, but he may have just sucked at using the thing. I know I do.
Case and point: Despite the fact that I was consistently getting 10+ kills per life using the bradley, another chap decided it was better used as a decoy to kill 1 maybe 2 guys. He was doing this by taking the bradley, driving it near where the enemies would be, sticking C4 to it, and leaving it there. Someone jumps in, boom he blows it up.
That's pretty awesome actually
Yea if you're a silly goose. Why would you sacrifice one of the best defensive items given to your team for a couple of kills when, if you use it right, you can get 5x+ that amount in a single life. You'd have to be clinically insane to think that's a good trade off.
Because it's funny and completely unexpected? I mean come on, it's just a game.
And I still want to win said game. We lost because the dumbasses blowing up our vehicles didn't figure out how to kill the enemies vehicles, which they were using appropriately to attack, in time. They didn't use AT weapons on them(I play medic a lot but if my team is retarded I'll switch to engineer), they weren't jumping into the stationary AT(I was busy keeping my merry band of silly geese alive) until the tank was RIGHT ON TOP OF THEM, and instead thought their time was better served blowing our own shit up and camping the apache spawn.
Seriously makes me want to choke people through the internet. Just because it's a game doesn't mean I don't want to win, or think someone is a silly goose for not realizing they could be far more efficient at getting kills and boosting their own score by actually using the vehicle rather than blowing it up.
Edit: I mean seriously wouldn't you want to pad your score by getting kills from your armored death machine rather and raping the other teams face rather than just blowing it up for a few laughs and a single kill? It's just so painfully counter productive.
Case and point: Despite the fact that I was consistently getting 10+ kills per life using the bradley, another chap decided it was better used as a decoy to kill 1 maybe 2 guys. He was doing this by taking the bradley, driving it near where the enemies would be, sticking C4 to it, and leaving it there. Someone jumps in, boom he blows it up.
That's pretty awesome actually
Yea if you're a silly goose. Why would you sacrifice one of the best defensive items given to your team for a couple of kills when, if you use it right, you can get 5x+ that amount in a single life. You'd have to be clinically insane to think that's a good trade off.
Because it's funny and completely unexpected? I mean come on, it's just a game.
Also damn clever, I mean now when someone tries to get in a vehicle they'll worry "Is this one booby trapped, maybe I should go on foot..."
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Case and point: Despite the fact that I was consistently getting 10+ kills per life using the bradley, another chap decided it was better used as a decoy to kill 1 maybe 2 guys. He was doing this by taking the bradley, driving it near where the enemies would be, sticking C4 to it, and leaving it there. Someone jumps in, boom he blows it up.
That's pretty awesome actually
Yea if you're a silly goose. Why would you sacrifice one of the best defensive items given to your team for a couple of kills when, if you use it right, you can get 5x+ that amount in a single life. You'd have to be clinically insane to think that's a good trade off.
Because it's funny and completely unexpected? I mean come on, it's just a game.
Also damn clever, I mean now when someone tries to get in a vehicle they'll worry "Is this one booby trapped, maybe I should go on foot..."
When an enemy vehicle(attackers don't get the bradley) is just sitting in the middle of nowhere, at damn near full health, with nobody else around. Logic would kind of make one assume it's a trap.
When an enemy vehicle(attackers don't get the bradley) is just sitting in the middle of nowhere, at damn near full health, with nobody else around. Logic would kind of make one assume it's a trap.
Or that they got out to repair it and died? It's happened before.
When an enemy vehicle(attackers don't get the bradley) is just sitting in the middle of nowhere, at damn near full health, with nobody else around. Logic would kind of make one assume it's a trap.
Or that they got out to repair it and died? It's happened before.
Unless you see that happen, it's always safer to assume it's a trap. If someone popped off the guy who was repairing it why wouldn't they just go ahead and steal it?
So I just read that Kotaku single player preview as well. Where does that guy get off saying it looks so much worse than MW2? MW2's beauty is simply in it's textures. The map geometry and general architecture is so fucking flat and blocky that I don't get why everyone thinks it's so damn pretty. The character models look good, but frankly I always thought the environments were rather bland and not terribly pretty. Whereas BC2's character models may not be as detailed, but the environments are considerably bigger, with far more complex geometry and they still managed to make it look as good as it does.
I will say MW2's texture work is a bit better too.
Tangentially, I love being able to kill people out of vehicles in this. It is the best and most entertaining thing to shoot the pilot of an apache stupid enough to charge you head on right out of his big dumb seat. Same goes for regular vehilcles too I guess but they don't have the added awesome of seeing the chopper crash and burn immediately.
Also the pilot of whatever chopper should be able to forcefully eject his passenger. I mean like a rocket. That way I can open a spot for someone who will actually gun.
i'd put c4 on my own vehicle if I wanted to bail out when it got too low and punish someone who might try and steal it from me.
You just have to hope it isn't some idiot teammate who decides "Hey look, that tank has 19 HP left! I better drive that bad boy deep into enemy territory before you can repair it/arm it!"
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I'd like the add that a majority of players, should protect B. I'm not saying all of them should protect B, but players have yet to realize that A. is practically a free capture, since all the attackers have to do is spam mortors on it and they'll get it. B, They'll HAVE to get to it to destroy it.
It them...or US.
Edit: They're in league with the terrorists.
Edit Edit: "Going green," is 'tree' for terrorism.
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They should have green peace show up when you start annihilating entire forests. I've always wanted to put a 40mm grenade round into a group of those hippies.
Seconded
"Bad Company 2: Kill all trees, it's the only way to go green."
ALSO THE BLACKHAWK SHOULD BE EASIER TO CRASH INTO THE POINT AND EXPLODE.
or keep my crosshairs on the pilots seat and kill the enemy as they constantly jump into it, hoping to steal it. they never learn
You should try using that MG that over looks A in the final part of the map. It's a fantastic weapon to use, be it to protect A from the attackers, or to protect A from the defenders.
Nobody uses it either, which I'll just chalk up to the general stupidity of a majority of the players who play the game.
Case and point: Despite the fact that I was consistently getting 10+ kills per life using the bradley, another chap decided it was better used as a decoy to kill 1 maybe 2 guys. He was doing this by taking the bradley, driving it near where the enemies would be, sticking C4 to it, and leaving it there. Someone jumps in, boom he blows it up.
Idiots be doing the same thing with the blackhawk, even after I flew it around with 2 guys manning the guns and we kept the entire enemy team at bay by circling the objectives and dropping anything wearing boots. Even pulled off a rather impressive maneuver of getting low enough to the ground to hover around one of the objectives so the gunners could fire through the windows. Had we not done that our team would have lost the objective we were trying to protect. Yet the second we were downed and the thing respawned some idiot packed it full of C4 and flew it into a tank.
For using it to blow up an objective.
It's certainly not sporting.
well, that makes you a jerk.
For using the C4 what it's supposed to?
I will say MW2's texture work is a bit better too.
That's pretty awesome actually
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Yea if you're a silly goose. Why would you sacrifice one of the best defensive items given to your team for a couple of kills when, if you use it right, you can get 5x+ that amount in a single life. You'd have to be clinically insane to think that's a good trade off.
You get three people doin' that and you'll never go under 80 tickets. Three out of supposedly, realistically, six to eight people actually attacking the points, actually working towards the objectives, that instantly kill it. And this isn't even the first point where you can mortar and all-terrain C4 the points.
Logically, it's not really fair or fun.
Because it's funny and completely unexpected? I mean come on, it's just a game.
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That's different. That's booby trapping the ENEMIES vehicles. I believe what strategery was getting at was his teammates booby trapping their OWN vehicles instead of using them. Sure, the attacker could have used the Apache, but he may have just sucked at using the thing. I know I do.
And I still want to win said game. We lost because the dumbasses blowing up our vehicles didn't figure out how to kill the enemies vehicles, which they were using appropriately to attack, in time. They didn't use AT weapons on them(I play medic a lot but if my team is retarded I'll switch to engineer), they weren't jumping into the stationary AT(I was busy keeping my merry band of silly geese alive) until the tank was RIGHT ON TOP OF THEM, and instead thought their time was better served blowing our own shit up and camping the apache spawn.
Seriously makes me want to choke people through the internet. Just because it's a game doesn't mean I don't want to win, or think someone is a silly goose for not realizing they could be far more efficient at getting kills and boosting their own score by actually using the vehicle rather than blowing it up.
Edit: I mean seriously wouldn't you want to pad your score by getting kills from your armored death machine rather and raping the other teams face rather than just blowing it up for a few laughs and a single kill? It's just so painfully counter productive.
Also damn clever, I mean now when someone tries to get in a vehicle they'll worry "Is this one booby trapped, maybe I should go on foot..."
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When an enemy vehicle(attackers don't get the bradley) is just sitting in the middle of nowhere, at damn near full health, with nobody else around. Logic would kind of make one assume it's a trap.
Unless you see that happen, it's always safer to assume it's a trap. If someone popped off the guy who was repairing it why wouldn't they just go ahead and steal it?
Your first mistake was reading Kotaku.
Also the pilot of whatever chopper should be able to forcefully eject his passenger. I mean like a rocket. That way I can open a spot for someone who will actually gun.
You just have to hope it isn't some idiot teammate who decides "Hey look, that tank has 19 HP left! I better drive that bad boy deep into enemy territory before you can repair it/arm it!"