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I'm currently working my way through the tutorial.
So far there's been one point of confusion. After you go through your first agent the explanation from robot tutorial lady seems to lead you to talk to the agent and in turn you'll get the mission....nope....need to open up people and places and there's a dude in there!
You have to be in the station the agent is in to get the mission.
I mean I was doing the tutorial, I was in the station with the agent. Then they tell me "Hey the agent will send you to some other agents!" But she just says, oh I have nothing left for you to do and nothing shows up in the journal. Instead a new guy just pops up under people & places -> agents.
Twenty four jumps later and my little civilian craft has made it to Merch headquarters. How foolhardy of me to travel so far from safe space, all for the cause of adventure!
I'm currently working my way through the tutorial.
So far there's been one point of confusion. After you go through your first agent the explanation from robot tutorial lady seems to lead you to talk to the agent and in turn you'll get the mission....nope....need to open up people and places and there's a dude in there!
You have to be in the station the agent is in to get the mission.
I mean I was doing the tutorial, I was in the station with the agent. Then they tell me "Hey the agent will send you to some other agents!" But she just says, oh I have nothing left for you to do and nothing shows up in the journal. Instead a new guy just pops up under people & places -> agents.
Check your agent list, right click and "set destination" on that agent you want and activate autopilot. See and remember which station he resides in so you'll know where to dock once you get there.
edit: Or you can just do whatever you feel like doing and go somewhere else.
I'm currently working my way through the tutorial.
So far there's been one point of confusion. After you go through your first agent the explanation from robot tutorial lady seems to lead you to talk to the agent and in turn you'll get the mission....nope....need to open up people and places and there's a dude in there!
You have to be in the station the agent is in to get the mission.
I mean I was doing the tutorial, I was in the station with the agent. Then they tell me "Hey the agent will send you to some other agents!" But she just says, oh I have nothing left for you to do and nothing shows up in the journal. Instead a new guy just pops up under people & places -> agents.
Check your agent list, right click and "set destination" on that agent you want and activate autopilot. See and remember which station he resides in so you'll know where to dock once you get there.
edit: Or you can just do whatever you feel like doing and go somewhere else.
You misunderstand... I've found him (as I said he's in my p&p list) and I've gone to him. I just thought the tutorial didn't explain things very well for this spot.
You misunderstand... I've found him (as I said he's in my p&p list) and I've gone to him. I just thought the tutorial didn't explain things very well for this spot.
The tutorial is not known for being particularly precise, nor concise for that matter. It is simply necessary. :P
Twenty four jumps later and my little civilian craft has made it to Merch headquarters. How foolhardy of me to travel so far from safe space, all for the cause of adventure!
Bah, foolhardy is what defines MerchI. Who are you in-game?
Anyway, yet another good day. Got to show Blutraserei the ropes, and we even had a near run-in with a Bobbit. Got some money made, got another person well and truly addicted. I do love this game so.
I also got my epic e-wang, AKA my Hyperion. I'll post pictures tomorrow.
I was also going to initially disapprove of the new OP... but the posters are too classic. Needs the pew pew one though.
okay, I'll probably download this later tonight or tomorrow and cry when I get killed a lot
so get ready for that
Don't get attached to your ship. And unlike WoW, keep in mind pvp can happen anywhere. So not only don't get attached to your ship, say in local "please sir can I have some more?" while floating in your pod.
Basically, you'll get blown up and podded repeatedly until you know enough and have the skills to fight back.
okay, I'll probably download this later tonight or tomorrow and cry when I get killed a lot
so get ready for that
Don't get attached to your ship. And unlike WoW, keep in mind pvp can happen anywhere. So not only don't get attached to your ship, say in local "please sir can I have some more?" while floating in your pod.
Basically, you'll get blown up and podded repeatedly until you know enough and have the skills to fight back.
I find it very hard to get attached to ships when I can get virtually any of them back in two days hard work or three to four lazy ones. I'm getting my hands on bpcs from my corp of my favourite ships now, so soon I'll be able to just go out and mine the minerals I need and buy the rarer ones with a few more loads of normal mins.
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In general terms, the sooner you get used to dying, the better. It may sound daft, but you gotta learn to get popped and say "fucker, someone gimmie a ship so I can get the bastard back" rather than getting upset about it. Once you get over that hurdle though, lowsec/0.0 stuff and PvP in particular gets much more fun
I have fun flying Incursis tacklers around. Not the most survivable, but I pin down pods and smaller ships. Still fun. I don't see what people want covops for, sure it's "lol invisible", but they're so expensive and fragile, and you're never going to get into a fight with that thing.
The most of combat you'll see is using yourself as a warpin point after probing, and watching from a distance. I know a few people with covops that don't even know how to fly the damn things, or use probes, or that understand how to work as a gang, how aggro works, or what to even really do to be effective in combat. The 200+mil isk ship sits in their hangar collecting dust.
Covops are hella useful. Yes, they don't get kills, but fleets need them and probing down pods and loggers is really fucking satisfying. Had a dick NPCing in our space yesterday, a corpmate made him disco with aggro and we got ship + pod. Plus they make you feel special :P
And the thing which really hacks me off is people who say "oh, I have a covops alt", but have no idea how to use them effectively, just leave them in systems to watch local and think somehow that counts as a dedicated covops pilot...
Twenty four jumps later and my little civilian craft has made it to Merch headquarters. How foolhardy of me to travel so far from safe space, all for the cause of adventure!
Bah, foolhardy is what defines MerchI. Who are you in-game?
I'm Ozmodai in game of course, can't expect me to be too creative first run through, can you?
Currently I'm making small mining runs too unguarded Hoshuon asteroid fields to build up some bank and buy a real ship. I'll be on later tonight to roll with the Merch crew if I'm invited.
Twenty four jumps later and my little civilian craft has made it to Merch headquarters. How foolhardy of me to travel so far from safe space, all for the cause of adventure!
Bah, foolhardy is what defines MerchI. Who are you in-game?
I'm Ozmodai in game of course, can't expect me to be too creative first run through, can you?
Currently I'm making small mining runs too unguarded Hoshuon asteroid fields to build up some bank and buy a real ship. I'll be on later tonight to roll with the Merch crew if I'm invited.
Ok. I'm too busy with work and school at the moment to start playing again. I am however debating reopening my account just to train till summer when I *can* play. The thing is, is it worth the 6 months worth of charges to keep it open just to play it in the summer? Hmmm.
I know it's not 8 months of in game time. Did you guys miss where I said I played EvE for two months before? Yes, I know the ship doesn't mean crap if you don't know how to fly it either. That doesn't stop it from being the ship I'd like to fly above all others.
My point still stands that 8 months from now I really don't have any clue if I will be in a position to be playing EvE, and it's a major turn off from the game that the ship I'd perfer to be flying would take that long.
It is unfortunate, and it may be deterrant to you playing the game, but it is something of a silly complaint. As was mentione, I might want to raid Blackwing Layer as a level 60 decked out with hawt lewtz with a certain amount of hours hours logged into World of Warcraft, but it ain't guaranteed to happen for a while, especially with real people time at my disposal.
A time investment for cool shit is to be expected, and tolerated if there is other cool shit to be busied with in the interim.
You can be raiding blackwing lair in a 60 in way under 8 months though man. Not that I'd want to raid blackwing lair. Then again, I did have more freetime back when I played WoW. Yes, a time investment for cool stuff is to be expected. 8 months is far too much of an investment for me right now. It's cool that it's not for you though. You eve dudes keep rocking on, fighting the good fight.
Man, if you really want to be a crazy grindfest dude, you can grind out enough isk to buy a fucking character that can fly whatever you want.
This is always an option really if you want to go grinding ahoy. Or just buy a character outright and then sell it on if you don't like the way it turns out anyway.
The complaint is still coming across weirdly though. The way you describe it's like there's newb ships and force recon's and nothing cool in between. What I'd like to hear is a description of what you think you'd be doing in a force recon compared to other ships.
Dude, I'm not saying there isn't anything inbetween. I'm not saying that flying other ships wont be fun. Like I said, I played the game for 2 months before. Obviously, I enjoyed it enough to play for 2 months, and that entire time I never had a force recon ship. Then, real life stuff cut into my gametime to the point that I had to stop.
The idea of a force recon ship really apeals to me, especially the rapier. Trust me, back when I played the game I did alot of research on alot of ships. It's just kind of what I do, and the rapier always was a ship that caught my eye. I'm not saying it's the end of the world that it would take me 8 months to get into a force recon. It's just pretty annoying. It's like someone telling someone in WoW that they have to wait 8 months before tthey can spec their characte the way they want to. I compare it to a talent spec because yes, you can still do everything in the game without it. But still, you won't be using the particular set up you'd like. I just really like the idea of having a big stealthy ship that can web down and paint up even the fastest of ships so my team mates can blow them out of the sky.
I'm not saying "Oh man eve is gonna suck until I get a force recon" I'm saying "force recon is a goal I'd really like to work to, on par with playing a role in a corp that operates in 0.0 space" and to be told I'd would take 8 months to get there is a bummer though. Question, do your characters eve get deleted in EvE from inaction? Cause my 2 month guy had a pretty large bevy of learning skills trained up.
You could probably do it for 3 months of payment. Activate for a month, train small-moderate stuff, then put a 20+ day skill on just before you deactivate. When that completes, reactivate and repeat.
Would be an excellent way to max out your cruiser/battlecruiser/battleship skills, since they each take 20+ days.
In general terms, the sooner you get used to dying, the better. It may sound daft, but you gotta learn to get popped and say "fucker, someone gimmie a ship so I can get the bastard back" rather than getting upset about it. Once you get over that hurdle though, lowsec/0.0 stuff and PvP in particular gets much more fun
I have fun flying Incursis tacklers around. Not the most survivable, but I pin down pods and smaller ships. Still fun. I don't see what people want covops for, sure it's "lol invisible", but they're so expensive and fragile, and you're never going to get into a fight with that thing.
The most of combat you'll see is using yourself as a warpin point after probing, and watching from a distance. I know a few people with covops that don't even know how to fly the damn things, or use probes, or that understand how to work as a gang, how aggro works, or what to even really do to be effective in combat. The 200+mil isk ship sits in their hangar collecting dust.
Covops are hella useful. Yes, they don't get kills, but fleets need them and probing down pods and loggers is really fucking satisfying. Had a dick NPCing in our space yesterday, a corpmate made him disco with aggro and we got ship + pod. Plus they make you feel special :P
And the thing which really hacks me off is people who say "oh, I have a covops alt", but have no idea how to use them effectively, just leave them in systems to watch local and think somehow that counts as a dedicated covops pilot...
Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. My main gripe is the marjority of covops capable people I know, don't know how to use it. I love it when one of our guys pulls his out though to land us right ontop of targets, extremely helpful.
I believe you can activate, set a 6 month skill, cancel and come back in 6 months to a trained skill for 1 month's fee.
Yes you can, if you can get to that 6 month skill.
ed: in fact, i am using a trial account right now to train drone interfacing 5[a 34 day skill] I am like 12 days away.
If/when i decide to activate the account i would already have drone interfacing 5[which is like battlecruiser 5, but for each and every drone ship you will ever fly]
Hmmm... I'm trying to do the mission after the tutorial. Unauthorized Military Presence and so far I got my ship shot once and another time I had to warp out. Not really sure how I could be doing things differently. I'm still in the newbie ship.
Hmmm... I'm trying to do the mission after the tutorial. Unauthorized Military Presence and so far I got my ship shot once and another time I had to warp out. Not really sure how I could be doing things differently. I'm still in the newbie ship.
All I want from EvE is to be able to fly around in my frigate or frigate sized ship and pew pew pew the bad guys. If I can have that, then I'm gold.
You will start the game with
Gunnery 5
Small Weapon System of your Choice 5
Racial Frigate 4
Max in a skill in 5.
This means you are
A: 25 days or so away from the best racial frigate type ships in the game. And you are able to fit, within like a day or so of starting the game[mainly due to isk constraints], the best pew pew weapons for those frigates.
B: Still need to get support skills up in order to fly those frigates well, but those will go fairly quickly for the most part and will not make your ship suck without them.
I.E. You can achieve that goal relativly fast, and still keep advancing down that path for a reasonably long time.
Hmmm... I'm trying to do the mission after the tutorial. Unauthorized Military Presence and so far I got my ship shot once and another time I had to warp out. Not really sure how I could be doing things differently. I'm still in the newbie ship.
Ed: join the PA channel, one of us will hook you up with enough isk to buy and fit a teir 2 or 3 frigate of your racial choice. We might even tell you some good setups for them.
I didn't really earn enough money to buy anything else.... I went through the tutorial.... I've upgraded my laser and seem to be doing better right now. Hopefully I'll get through it now.
Hmmm... I'm trying to do the mission after the tutorial. Unauthorized Military Presence and so far I got my ship shot once and another time I had to warp out. Not really sure how I could be doing things differently. I'm still in the newbie ship.
You uh, shouldnt be in the newbie ship.[/quote
I didn't really earn enough money to buy anything else.... I went through the tutorial....
Besides, flying in a newbie ship should be relatively safe. I seriously doubt any but the worst gankers would attack you because one can reasonably assume there'd be nothing to gain from blowing up someone flying a Rookie ship.
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I mean I was doing the tutorial, I was in the station with the agent. Then they tell me "Hey the agent will send you to some other agents!" But she just says, oh I have nothing left for you to do and nothing shows up in the journal. Instead a new guy just pops up under people & places -> agents.
Check your agent list, right click and "set destination" on that agent you want and activate autopilot. See and remember which station he resides in so you'll know where to dock once you get there.
edit: Or you can just do whatever you feel like doing and go somewhere else.
You misunderstand... I've found him (as I said he's in my p&p list) and I've gone to him. I just thought the tutorial didn't explain things very well for this spot.
The tutorial is not known for being particularly precise, nor concise for that matter. It is simply necessary. :P
Bah, foolhardy is what defines MerchI. Who are you in-game?
Anyway, yet another good day. Got to show Blutraserei the ropes, and we even had a near run-in with a Bobbit. Got some money made, got another person well and truly addicted. I do love this game so.
I also got my epic e-wang, AKA my Hyperion.
I was also going to initially disapprove of the new OP... but the posters are too classic. Needs the pew pew one though.
Also, new sig, now with 90% less stoned Riese!
Don't get attached to your ship. And unlike WoW, keep in mind pvp can happen anywhere. So not only don't get attached to your ship, say in local "please sir can I have some more?" while floating in your pod.
Basically, you'll get blown up and podded repeatedly until you know enough and have the skills to fight back.
Your hard drive caches a high resolution version of your characters portrait.
Been having some 7 day skills training while I was gone, trying to get myself in a retrierver.
Should be there in about 4 more days.
I find it very hard to get attached to ships when I can get virtually any of them back in two days hard work or three to four lazy ones. I'm getting my hands on bpcs from my corp of my favourite ships now, so soon I'll be able to just go out and mine the minerals I need and buy the rarer ones with a few more loads of normal mins.
No, he did a portrait swap.
Covops are hella useful. Yes, they don't get kills, but fleets need them and probing down pods and loggers is really fucking satisfying. Had a dick NPCing in our space yesterday, a corpmate made him disco with aggro and we got ship + pod. Plus they make you feel special :P
And the thing which really hacks me off is people who say "oh, I have a covops alt", but have no idea how to use them effectively, just leave them in systems to watch local and think somehow that counts as a dedicated covops pilot...
I run it under Boot Camp and it plays fine. I guess you could use Parallels too, but from what I've heard it's a little laggy, moreso for games.
As for a true Mac port, I've been told the Devs don't want to use anything but DirectX, so we're out of luck
I'm Ozmodai in game of course, can't expect me to be too creative first run through, can you?
Currently I'm making small mining runs too unguarded Hoshuon asteroid fields to build up some bank and buy a real ship. I'll be on later tonight to roll with the Merch crew if I'm invited.
Woo! More Ottawa EVE players!
Dude, I'm not saying there isn't anything inbetween. I'm not saying that flying other ships wont be fun. Like I said, I played the game for 2 months before. Obviously, I enjoyed it enough to play for 2 months, and that entire time I never had a force recon ship. Then, real life stuff cut into my gametime to the point that I had to stop.
The idea of a force recon ship really apeals to me, especially the rapier. Trust me, back when I played the game I did alot of research on alot of ships. It's just kind of what I do, and the rapier always was a ship that caught my eye. I'm not saying it's the end of the world that it would take me 8 months to get into a force recon. It's just pretty annoying. It's like someone telling someone in WoW that they have to wait 8 months before tthey can spec their characte the way they want to. I compare it to a talent spec because yes, you can still do everything in the game without it. But still, you won't be using the particular set up you'd like. I just really like the idea of having a big stealthy ship that can web down and paint up even the fastest of ships so my team mates can blow them out of the sky.
I'm not saying "Oh man eve is gonna suck until I get a force recon" I'm saying "force recon is a goal I'd really like to work to, on par with playing a role in a corp that operates in 0.0 space" and to be told I'd would take 8 months to get there is a bummer though. Question, do your characters eve get deleted in EvE from inaction? Cause my 2 month guy had a pretty large bevy of learning skills trained up.
Would be an excellent way to max out your cruiser/battlecruiser/battleship skills, since they each take 20+ days.
Uh, the issue was less of the timescale eve works on and more on the timescale my LIFE works on.
Fair enough. It's possible then that Eve timescales aren't compatible with the combination of your timescales and your goals, I guess...
Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. My main gripe is the marjority of covops capable people I know, don't know how to use it. I love it when one of our guys pulls his out though to land us right ontop of targets, extremely helpful.
Yes you can, if you can get to that 6 month skill.
ed: in fact, i am using a trial account right now to train drone interfacing 5[a 34 day skill] I am like 12 days away.
If/when i decide to activate the account i would already have drone interfacing 5[which is like battlecruiser 5, but for each and every drone ship you will ever fly]
You uh, shouldnt be in the newbie ship.
You will start the game with
Gunnery 5
Small Weapon System of your Choice 5
Racial Frigate 4
Max in a skill in 5.
This means you are
A: 25 days or so away from the best racial frigate type ships in the game. And you are able to fit, within like a day or so of starting the game[mainly due to isk constraints], the best pew pew weapons for those frigates.
B: Still need to get support skills up in order to fly those frigates well, but those will go fairly quickly for the most part and will not make your ship suck without them.
I.E. You can achieve that goal relativly fast, and still keep advancing down that path for a reasonably long time.
Ed: join the PA channel, one of us will hook you up with enough isk to buy and fit a teir 2 or 3 frigate of your racial choice. We might even tell you some good setups for them.
ed: Channel name is "Pennyarcade"