Hey on a scale that size, even 1 pixel is a pretty large area ;P
Besides, Mada gas car? What else could you expect!
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They could do it like they did in CivRev where you pay to connect cities but don't actually build the roads. Thus you wouldn't really be able to spam them and they are a somewhat hefty investment.
Alternatively they could just interfere with resource gathering.
I really like the CivRev system (I really like Civ Rev fullstop) although there are annoyances when the auto built roads forms strange junctions around existing roads near cities that stop you being able to move you units in the most optimal manner.
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edited March 2010
I wonder how much the art will change between now and release, cos right now I don't really like how the world looks. The mountains are nice, but the colour palette is pretty swampy, and the cities/units just look uninteresting. I much prefer the look of Civ IV.
Civilization has always been a turn-based game in which you moved units on a giant board of squares. Civ5 is going to change all that by ditching the confinement of squares for the liberation of six-sided hexagons. The hope is that the additional directional possibilities will give units more natural movements on the board, as well as more places for the player to move them to.
Seriously, how much math do you have to do to realise squares = 8 directions and hexes = 6.
So, is it ok to talk about civ 4 in here since the civ 4 discussion thread seems to be dead?
Because if so, I dug into the colonization art files a bit and got kind of carried away:
Meijii and Hitler are downloaded from civfanatics of course, the rest are taken out of the civ colonization directory and copied over (I found a pack with the buttons pre-extracted as the colonization button file didn't seem to work, and I had to copy the eyeshadow.dds from civ4 leaders over, but otherwise they work straight out of the box).
I also whipped up custom personality profiles for them as well, all that's left is civilopedia text and trying to figure out how to get custom diplo text in for them.
The all-new tripartite pact! Hitler, Zulu and Montezuma! Coming soon, to a worldwide genocide near you!
I was rather annoyed with the loss of zones of control in Civ4, 8 directions didn't help that one bit. It was impossible to deny terrain to an enemy since they could just move their stack past yours through hills/forest.
It makes sense to only show roads between cities and things. There are dirt roads and paths and trails everywhere, but for real travel you need to spend time on some nice roads. The romans didn't just cut down trees, they paved those bitches. Those are the roads that actually make a difference on a national level.
And I know people are still talking about squares v hexes, but everyone can breathe a sigh of relief, I'm just going to leave it alone.
For too long have developers ignored the sphere, just because they don't tessellate and occupy three dimensions. I for one am boycotting Civ V until I have spheres.
For too long have developers ignored the sphere, just because they don't tessellate and occupy three dimensions. I for one am boycotting Civ V until I have spheres.
If only Firaxis was within your hexagon of control.
I played Civ 4 a few years back but I found it kinda boring and slow paced, I like my strategy games to make my have the shakes after a big battle. Do the learned peoples of this thread think I should reinstall and try again?
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I played Civ 4 a few years back but I found it kinda boring and slow paced, I like my strategy games to make my have the shakes after a big battle. Do the learned peoples of this thread think I should reinstall and try again?
No. The Civ games are essentially about planning and using your brain. Given that you seem to be a slightly addled adrenaline junky, I suggest you pay a homeless person to hide randomly about your flat. He should jump out and scream when you get close. If you find a homeless person who already owns a rusty shank named 'Ruthy', that will make the game even more EXTREME.
You should spell it right if you are going to display it in big red letters.
And yeah SLyM. Civ 4 is not for you. The battles in Civ are pretty much the same unit animations over and over that you will eventually turn off because they take forever with the big stacks of doom.
You should spell it right if you are going to display it in big red letters.
And yeah SLyM. Civ 4 is not for you. The battles in Civ are pretty much the same unit animations over and over that you will eventually turn off because they take forever with the big stacks of doom.
If you want a 4X that's more about battles, look into Sins of a Solar Empire. Or maybe the total war games
I played Civ 4 a few years back but I found it kinda boring and slow paced, I like my strategy games to make my have the shakes after a big battle. Do the learned peoples of this thread think I should reinstall and try again?
Try the Total War series.
Civilization's more like a big complicated board game than a wargame.
SLyM should check out Operation Art of War or Maybe Europa Universalis. After that, Civ will seem fast paced and less cerebral.
EU isn't all that cerebral. Victoria, on the other hand...
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edited March 2010
Off topic, but talking about EU/Victoria, I started playing Crusader Kings the other week. Am I doing it right if I spend a lot of time not actually doing anything?
Off topic, but talking about EU/Victoria, I started playing Crusader Kings the other week. Am I doing it right if I spend a lot of time not actually doing anything?
Mostly you should be looking for opportunities to inherit, building up your demesne, and engage in the occasional war (or many wars, depending on who you are and what your strategy is).
Off topic, but talking about EU/Victoria, I started playing Crusader Kings the other week. Am I doing it right if I spend a lot of time not actually doing anything?
I think a big part of playing Paradox's games is knowing when to do nothing. Constantly trying to stay busy is a sure path to bankruptcy / pissing everyone off. Just turn up the speed and wait for opportunities.
Every time I start EU3 I just stare at england for 10 minutes and quit.
It's very scary.
France is the one to be afraid of.
In the newest expansion (HTTT), Austria is now the big country eater.
But I agree, play Eu3 for a century or two and Civ4 will be the action game of the year. I like that quote though...Paradox's games are about knowing when not to do anything.
Also, next time you start Eu3, BE England. And relish your inability to be attacked because the computer has no clue how to do naval correctly.
Back to Civ, did that Alpha Centauri mod someone was making ever go anywhere?
Every time I start EU3 I just stare at england for 10 minutes and quit.
It's very scary.
France is the one to be afraid of.
In the newest expansion (HTTT), Austria is now the big country eater.
But I agree, play Eu3 for a century or two and Civ4 will be the action game of the year. I like that quote though...Paradox's games are about knowing when not to do anything.
Also, next time you start Eu3, BE England. And relish your inability to be attacked because the computer has no clue how to do naval correctly.
Back to Civ, did that Alpha Centauri mod someone was making ever go anywhere?
It's called Planetfall, and they're still working on it. It's not going to be an exact clone due to the engine, but it has the factions, techs, and general setting of SMAC down pretty well at this point.
Every time I start EU3 I just stare at england for 10 minutes and quit.
It's very scary.
France is the one to be afraid of.
I meant that I had no idea of what to do.
I've been playing Civ since 1 on a 386 with PC Speaker sound.
and I can play Empire TW and Anno 1701
but UE3 is just shouting FUCK YOU NOOB very loud at my face.
It took me a few restarts of EU3 before I started to get the hang of it. It does play differently than any other similar game I've come across, but once you get over the hump.. it's pretty compelling.
It just seems so deliberate in its pace, it actually feels like you're conquering Europe. Other games I've played, like Civ or Total War, it's over too fast. You don't really get to savor the victories, or witness how the enemy responds.
It just seems so deliberate in its pace, it actually feels like you're conquering Europe. Other games I've played, like Civ or Total War, it's over too fast. You don't really get to savor the victories, or witness how the enemy responds.
Every time I start EU3 I just stare at england for 10 minutes and quit.
It's very scary.
France is the one to be afraid of.
I meant that I had no idea of what to do.
I've been playing Civ since 1 on a 386 with PC Speaker sound.
and I can play Empire TW and Anno 1701
but UE3 is just shouting FUCK YOU NOOB very loud at my face.
That makes a lot more sense. I had that same problem getting into the game. I finally settled for picking out a very specific goal and using a small country, and oddly enough it worked out really well. I picked out one of the italian minors and slowly but surely started conquering those around me, paying enough attention to the rest of the world to not get killed. I think I restarted after 50 years, but it was enough practice to go "ah, I see what's going on"
Many people say you need to start big. I say start small and get used to it.
Every time I start EU3 I just stare at england for 10 minutes and quit.
It's very scary.
France is the one to be afraid of.
I meant that I had no idea of what to do.
I've been playing Civ since 1 on a 386 with PC Speaker sound.
and I can play Empire TW and Anno 1701
but UE3 is just shouting FUCK YOU NOOB very loud at my face.
That makes a lot more sense. I had that same problem getting into the game. I finally settled for picking out a very specific goal and using a small country, and oddly enough it worked out really well. I picked out one of the italian minors and slowly but surely started conquering those around me, paying enough attention to the rest of the world to not get killed. I think I restarted after 50 years, but it was enough practice to go "ah, I see what's going on"
Many people say you need to start big. I say start small and get used to it.
When in doubt, play Portugal. Good way for beginners to learn the game.
Every time I start EU3 I just stare at england for 10 minutes and quit.
It's very scary.
France is the one to be afraid of.
I meant that I had no idea of what to do.
I've been playing Civ since 1 on a 386 with PC Speaker sound.
and I can play Empire TW and Anno 1701
but UE3 is just shouting FUCK YOU NOOB very loud at my face.
That makes a lot more sense. I had that same problem getting into the game. I finally settled for picking out a very specific goal and using a small country, and oddly enough it worked out really well. I picked out one of the italian minors and slowly but surely started conquering those around me, paying enough attention to the rest of the world to not get killed. I think I restarted after 50 years, but it was enough practice to go "ah, I see what's going on"
Many people say you need to start big. I say start small and get used to it.
When in doubt, play Portugal. Good way for beginners to learn the game.
I figured it out using the Byzantines. If you blockade the Bosporous, you can cripple the Ottomans and take most of the Balkans. Then you take Asia Minor and go nuts. I had: Italy, the entire Middle East, most of Russia, all of Africa, most of the East Indies, and half of India. Sadly my EU3 to Victoria converter didn't work so I couldn't finish it off.
Take one of the Dutch minors for a real challenge. Make friends with France or die horribly! And then inevitably fight nasty wars over Germany with the Austrians or colonial wars with England or Portugal.
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As much as I like the gameplay changes, I just hope they come out refined
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I really like the CivRev system (I really like Civ Rev fullstop) although there are annoyances when the auto built roads forms strange junctions around existing roads near cities that stop you being able to move you units in the most optimal manner.
I made a game, it has penguins in it. It's pay what you like on Gumroad.
Currently Ebaying Nothing at all but I might do in the future.
That said, the cities could stand out a little more.
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Seriously, how much math do you have to do to realise squares = 8 directions and hexes = 6.
Off topic, but do you have the one where the guy had one uninfected guy left in a world where everyone else was either sick or dying?
And I know people are still talking about squares v hexes, but everyone can breathe a sigh of relief, I'm just going to leave it alone.
For too long have developers ignored the sphere, just because they don't tessellate and occupy three dimensions. I for one am boycotting Civ V until I have spheres.
If only Firaxis was within your hexagon of control.
Some needs to make a scenario about, you know, APLHA FUCKING CENTAURI!
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There's a civ4 mod.
No. The Civ games are essentially about planning and using your brain. Given that you seem to be a slightly addled adrenaline junky, I suggest you pay a homeless person to hide randomly about your flat. He should jump out and scream when you get close. If you find a homeless person who already owns a rusty shank named 'Ruthy', that will make the game even more EXTREME.
And yeah SLyM. Civ 4 is not for you. The battles in Civ are pretty much the same unit animations over and over that you will eventually turn off because they take forever with the big stacks of doom.
If you want a 4X that's more about battles, look into Sins of a Solar Empire. Or maybe the total war games
Try the Total War series.
Civilization's more like a big complicated board game than a wargame.
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EU isn't all that cerebral. Victoria, on the other hand...
I think a big part of playing Paradox's games is knowing when to do nothing. Constantly trying to stay busy is a sure path to bankruptcy / pissing everyone off. Just turn up the speed and wait for opportunities.
It's very scary.
France is the one to be afraid of.
In the newest expansion (HTTT), Austria is now the big country eater.
But I agree, play Eu3 for a century or two and Civ4 will be the action game of the year. I like that quote though...Paradox's games are about knowing when not to do anything.
Also, next time you start Eu3, BE England. And relish your inability to be attacked because the computer has no clue how to do naval correctly.
Back to Civ, did that Alpha Centauri mod someone was making ever go anywhere?
It's called Planetfall, and they're still working on it. It's not going to be an exact clone due to the engine, but it has the factions, techs, and general setting of SMAC down pretty well at this point.
I meant that I had no idea of what to do.
I've been playing Civ since 1 on a 386 with PC Speaker sound.
and I can play Empire TW and Anno 1701
but UE3 is just shouting FUCK YOU NOOB very loud at my face.
It just seems so deliberate in its pace, it actually feels like you're conquering Europe. Other games I've played, like Civ or Total War, it's over too fast. You don't really get to savor the victories, or witness how the enemy responds.
Don't blitz, then.
That makes a lot more sense. I had that same problem getting into the game. I finally settled for picking out a very specific goal and using a small country, and oddly enough it worked out really well. I picked out one of the italian minors and slowly but surely started conquering those around me, paying enough attention to the rest of the world to not get killed. I think I restarted after 50 years, but it was enough practice to go "ah, I see what's going on"
Many people say you need to start big. I say start small and get used to it.
BTW I think I fell in love with Anno 1701. It's like settlers 2 without the shitty parts.
When in doubt, play Portugal. Good way for beginners to learn the game.
I figured it out using the Byzantines. If you blockade the Bosporous, you can cripple the Ottomans and take most of the Balkans. Then you take Asia Minor and go nuts. I had: Italy, the entire Middle East, most of Russia, all of Africa, most of the East Indies, and half of India. Sadly my EU3 to Victoria converter didn't work so I couldn't finish it off.
Take one of the Dutch minors for a real challenge. Make friends with France or die horribly! And then inevitably fight nasty wars over Germany with the Austrians or colonial wars with England or Portugal.