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Sid Meier's Civilization V - Game disks MUST be tossed. Salad optional.

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  • GrimReaperGrimReaper Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Kalkino wrote: »
    GrimReaper wrote: »
    Oh yeah baby, you've been naughty...

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    France>England eh?

    Not in any Civ game i've ever played, I always nuke the French. Always.

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  • KalkinoKalkino Buttons Londres Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I used to enjoy doing the AC Singularity Planet Buster ending. Where in a fit of xenophobia I'd flatten everything else and then take my chances with massive ecological damage. It seemed to be a nice balance really - cause megadeath, be wiped out by mind worms

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Kalkino wrote: »
    I used to enjoy doing the AC Singularity Planet Buster ending. Where in a fit of xenophobia I'd flatten everything else and then take my chances with massive ecological damage. It seemed to be a nice balance really - cause megadeath, be wiped out by mind worms

    Singularity Planet Busters are so awesome, Not just for the pure damage but the warping of terrain.

    I wish new Civ games had the terrain deformation that Centauri had

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  • KastanjKastanj __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2010
    I feel as if the cover for the first Civ might be the most beautiful game cover in existence.

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  • kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I loved the WWII scenario in Civ II.

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  • KalkinoKalkino Buttons Londres Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Kalkino wrote: »
    I used to enjoy doing the AC Singularity Planet Buster ending. Where in a fit of xenophobia I'd flatten everything else and then take my chances with massive ecological damage. It seemed to be a nice balance really - cause megadeath, be wiped out by mind worms

    Singularity Planet Busters are so awesome, Not just for the pure damage but the warping of terrain.

    I wish new Civ games had the terrain deformation that Centauri had

    Yup. Terraforming is quite good fun. I also liked Call to Power for the Ocean Maglev train networks

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  • P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    GrimReaper wrote: »
    Talking of ToT, you played it in a window rather than full screen.. I wish you could do that in Civ 5 (and 4) without having to screw around.
    It's not hard to set up Civ4 to run windowed.
    Open up CivilizationIV.ini in your Beyond the Sword folder, find the part where it says
    ; Specify whether to play in fullscreen mode 0/1/ask
    FullScreen = ask
    and set it to ask. And then never have to worry again.

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  • XiaNaphryzXiaNaphryz Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Kalkino wrote: »
    I tried to play the board game a few years back but the guy who owned it had lost the rules and we couldn't find a copy online.
    The original boardgames, or the one based on Sid Meier's stuff? If the latter, it's pretty much garbage.

    FFG is making a new one though!

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    We'll have to see how it turns out. Through The Ages is pretty much the best option right now for a civ style boardgame, and is pretty damn good.

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  • Samm1chSamm1ch Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Cleopatra? More like Cleop-HOT-ra! amirite?!

    On a semi-related note, one of my favorite parts of Civ IV is when you meet/contact Catherine. When the screen comes up, she spins around and pulls a momentary duck-lipped model face. So funny.

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  • FerrusFerrus Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    That looks more complicated than Arkham Horror.

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  • DracilDracil Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    XiaNaphryz wrote: »
    Kalkino wrote: »
    I tried to play the board game a few years back but the guy who owned it had lost the rules and we couldn't find a copy online.
    The original boardgames, or the one based on Sid Meier's stuff? If the latter, it's pretty much garbage.

    FFG is making a new one though!

    pic787239_lg.jpg

    We'll have to see how it turns out. Through The Ages is pretty much the best option right now for a civ style boardgame, and is pretty damn good.

    pic236169_md.jpg

    pic714518_lg.jpg

    I'm interested in how the new Civ game turns out but I actually just got Through the Ages yesterday. Now to see if I can actually get anyone to play with me.

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  • XiaNaphryzXiaNaphryz Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Dracil wrote: »
    I'm interested in how the new Civ game turns out but I actually just got Through the Ages yesterday. Now to see if I can actually get anyone to play with me.

    Go through the simple game rules first.

    Trust me. :)
    Ferrus wrote: »
    That looks more complicated than Arkham Horror.

    There's a lot of little things to keep track of each turn, but it's not very complicated actually once you get the systems down. Which is actually pretty easy if you're used to certain civ concepts and figure out how they translate to the boardgame (i.e. unhappy population, corruption, etc).

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  • GrimReaperGrimReaper Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    GrimReaper wrote: »
    Talking of ToT, you played it in a window rather than full screen.. I wish you could do that in Civ 5 (and 4) without having to screw around.
    It's not hard to set up Civ4 to run windowed.
    Open up CivilizationIV.ini in your Beyond the Sword folder, find the part where it says
    ; Specify whether to play in fullscreen mode 0/1/ask
    FullScreen = ask
    and set it to ask. And then never have to worry again.
    (and if you resize the window it resizes what's displayed rather than increasing/decreasing the area that is drawn instead.. at least that's what happens in Civ 4)

    If you run Civ 4 in windowed mode it runs it at a fixed resolution, so say I set the default window size to 640x480, it will continue to render at 640x480 regardless of whether I resize that window by say maximising it or moving it to my second monitor and maximising it there.

    So you end up doing a lot of messing around trying to get the correct maximised (draw area) size of a window on your second monitor just so you don't have to worry about the whole mouse capture thing so you can do other stuff whilst playing civ 4. (without having to alt+tab constantly)

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Civ 1 was the first video game I bought with my own money.

    I still have the box to this day, though the contents have all long vanished. Weathered and creased, battered by time and faded with age. Not a vulgar plastic DVD case like they have today - but a thick, folded cardboard box, with raised lettering on the front and a glossy finish. Yellowed colours, scrubbed off lettering and completely torn edges. It is a thing of beauty.


    In 1992 I was eight years old. My Dad took me to buy a game with the money I had received for my birthday. Back then, PCs weren't as ubiquitous as they are today, so there weren't any dedicated game stores. We went to Dixons, a now defunct home appliance store that was close to our house, wandering through the refrigerator and toaster aisles, past the cordless homephones and behind the vintage-style kettles to the tiny home computing section at the back.

    It had one shelf of games, completely out of my reach at the top. I asked my Dad to bring some down so I could look and choose the game that I wanted. I was so excited, cradling each box in my small hands one after another. Passing them back with disinterest each time. He handed me a fighter jet game (another title published by Microprose, F-15 strike eagle) and I wanted it so badly. But my Dad said I was too young for such violent games and wanted something educational.

    Then he passed me Civilization. I knew instantly that I had to have it. Not for deep, theological reasons but because the cover art was of a city sculpted out of sand, below it lying an ancient Egyptian statue, seemingly carved from stone. We were just studying Ancient Egypt at that time in primary school, and I thought things like the Pyramids and the Sphinx and those amazing Pharaoh statues were the best things since Dinosaurs and Space Aliens. That was how shallow my reasoning was.

    Of course, the mechanics and core concepts of the game were way above my head at that age. But it stuck with me. Me and my Dad would play it together and he would do the city management and actual process of war and diplomacy - and I would get to name cities and decide on what wonders to build. We were a team and Civilization brought us together in the earliest days of my PC gaming. It was fun to rule an empire as father and son.


    Throughout my life Civ has always brought us together. Now I'm in my mid-twenties and we live halfway around the world from one another, thousands of miles away in different countries. Other than my sister I am the last of my family still in England, still in the Old World - the rest having moved long ago to North America. I don't get to see them that often, though we of course talk on the phone and send emails. But still to this day my Dad and I play Civilization together.

    In the way that estranged people play proxy chess one move at a time over months and years, we send each other save files and continue legacy games of Civ. First it was Civ 3 when I moved out into university, and then the expansions when he moved across the Atlantic.

    Never competitively against one another, but together as we always have done; he the retired war-mongering relic of Imperial Britain, and me - the writer - who gets to name the cities and try to stay out of the 'serious business of running an empire'.

    I can only hope Civ V runs on his computer.

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  • BobbleBobble Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    :^: to you and your dad, Scarab. I hope Civ V runs on his computer too.

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Civ 1 was the first video game I bought with my own money.

    I still have the box to this day, though the contents have all long vanished. Weathered and creased, battered by time and faded with age. Not a vulgar plastic DVD case like they have today - but a thick, folded cardboard box, with raised lettering on the front and a glossy finish. Yellowed colours, scrubbed off lettering and completely torn edges. It is a thing of beauty.


    In 1992 I was eight years old. My Dad took me to buy a game with the money I had received for my birthday. Back then, PCs weren't as ubiquitous as they are today, so there weren't any dedicated game stores. We went to Dixons, a now defunct home appliance store that was close to our house, wandering through the refrigerator and toaster aisles, past the cordless homephones and behind the vintage-style kettles to the tiny home computing section at the back.

    It had one shelf of games, completely out of my reach at the top. I asked my Dad to bring some down so I could look and choose the game that I wanted. I was so excited, cradling each box in my small hands one after another. Passing them back with disinterest each time. He handed me a fighter jet game (another title published by Microprose, F-15 strike eagle) and I wanted it so badly. But my Dad said I was too young for such violent games and wanted something educational.

    Then he passed me Civilization. I knew instantly that I had to have it. Not for deep, theological reasons but because the cover art was of a city sculpted out of sand, below it lying an ancient Egyptian statue, seemingly carved from stone. We were just studying Ancient Egypt at that time in primary school, and I thought things like the Pyramids and the Sphinx and those amazing Pharaoh statues were the best things since Dinosaurs and Space Aliens. That was how shallow my reasoning was.

    Of course, the mechanics and core concepts of the game were way above my head at that age. But it stuck with me. Me and my Dad would play it together and he would do the city management and actual process of war and diplomacy - and I would get to name cities and decide on what wonders to build. We were a team and Civilization brought us together in the earliest days of my PC gaming. It was fun to rule an empire as father and son.


    Throughout my life Civ has always brought us together. Now I'm in my mid-twenties and we live halfway around the world from one another, thousands of miles away in different countries. Other than my sister I am the last of my family still in England, still in the Old World - the rest having moved long ago to North America. I don't get to see them that often, though we of course talk on the phone and send emails. But still to this day my Dad and I play Civilization together.

    In the way that estranged people play proxy chess one move at a time over months and years, we send each other save files and continue legacy games of Civ. First it was Civ 3 when I moved out into university, and then the expansions when he moved across the Atlantic.

    Never competitively against one another, but together as we always have done; he the retired war-mongering relic of Imperial Britain, and me - the writer - who gets to name the cities and try to stay out of the 'serious business of running an empire'.

    I can only hope Civ V runs on his computer.

    Totally reported for awesome

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  • IoloIolo iolo Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    That is the best story, The_Scarab.

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Civ 1 was the first video game I bought with my own money.

    I still have the box to this day, though the contents have all long vanished. Weathered and creased, battered by time and faded with age. Not a vulgar plastic DVD case like they have today - but a thick, folded cardboard box, with raised lettering on the front and a glossy finish. Yellowed colours, scrubbed off lettering and completely torn edges. It is a thing of beauty.


    In 1992 I was eight years old. My Dad took me to buy a game with the money I had received for my birthday. Back then, PCs weren't as ubiquitous as they are today, so there weren't any dedicated game stores. We went to Dixons, a now defunct home appliance store that was close to our house, wandering through the refrigerator and toaster aisles, past the cordless homephones and behind the vintage-style kettles to the tiny home computing section at the back.

    It had one shelf of games, completely out of my reach at the top. I asked my Dad to bring some down so I could look and choose the game that I wanted. I was so excited, cradling each box in my small hands one after another. Passing them back with disinterest each time. He handed me a fighter jet game (another title published by Microprose, F-15 strike eagle) and I wanted it so badly. But my Dad said I was too young for such violent games and wanted something educational.

    Then he passed me Civilization. I knew instantly that I had to have it. Not for deep, theological reasons but because the cover art was of a city sculpted out of sand, below it lying an ancient Egyptian statue, seemingly carved from stone. We were just studying Ancient Egypt at that time in primary school, and I thought things like the Pyramids and the Sphinx and those amazing Pharaoh statues were the best things since Dinosaurs and Space Aliens. That was how shallow my reasoning was.

    Of course, the mechanics and core concepts of the game were way above my head at that age. But it stuck with me. Me and my Dad would play it together and he would do the city management and actual process of war and diplomacy - and I would get to name cities and decide on what wonders to build. We were a team and Civilization brought us together in the earliest days of my PC gaming. It was fun to rule an empire as father and son.


    Throughout my life Civ has always brought us together. Now I'm in my mid-twenties and we live halfway around the world from one another, thousands of miles away in different countries. Other than my sister I am the last of my family still in England, still in the Old World - the rest having moved long ago to North America. I don't get to see them that often, though we of course talk on the phone and send emails. But still to this day my Dad and I play Civilization together.

    In the way that estranged people play proxy chess one move at a time over months and years, we send each other save files and continue legacy games of Civ. First it was Civ 3 when I moved out into university, and then the expansions when he moved across the Atlantic.

    Never competitively against one another, but together as we always have done; he the retired war-mongering relic of Imperial Britain, and me - the writer - who gets to name the cities and try to stay out of the 'serious business of running an empire'.

    I can only hope Civ V runs on his computer.

    ^5 Scarab.

    I bought Civ II from a scholastics catalog from sixth grade, and by I, I mean I bugged my dad until he agreed to shut me up. Honest to god after it showed up he was more interested in the game than I was. For years to come we'd both play the various iterations and spin offs. Many memories of watching tv while my dad muttered "Fucking Miriam." as quiet as he could so I wouldn't hear. Imagine my joy when I discovered hotseat. It was my dad, brother, and I against the world (literally).

    Sid Meier, bringing families together since 1991.

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  • MegamaniacoMegamaniaco Madrid, Spain (again!)Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I just wish that my dad had any kind of interest in computer games, he would love stuff like this.
    Oh, and +1 to the Alpha Centauri 2 petition fan club or something.
    That game seriously needs to be done, I like SMAC/X even more than Civ, and that's saying a lot.

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  • tofutofu Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    When I bought Civ 3 the only thing my dad said was "why are the people so big?"

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  • XiaNaphryzXiaNaphryz Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I just wish that my dad had any kind of interest in computer games, he would love stuff like this.
    Oh, and +1 to the Alpha Centauri 2 petition fan club or something.
    That game seriously needs to be done, I like SMAC/X even more than Civ, and that's saying a lot.
    Until we hear anything about Firaxis working with EA again, I wouldn't expect anything SMAC related.

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  • MegamaniacoMegamaniaco Madrid, Spain (again!)Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    XiaNaphryz wrote: »
    I just wish that my dad had any kind of interest in computer games, he would love stuff like this.
    Oh, and +1 to the Alpha Centauri 2 petition fan club or something.
    That game seriously needs to be done, I like SMAC/X even more than Civ, and that's saying a lot.
    Until we hear anything about Firaxis working with EA again, I wouldn't expect anything SMAC related.

    Or at least a spiritual successor a la System Shock - Bioshock or something... D:

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  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    XiaNaphryz wrote: »
    I just wish that my dad had any kind of interest in computer games, he would love stuff like this.
    Oh, and +1 to the Alpha Centauri 2 petition fan club or something.
    That game seriously needs to be done, I like SMAC/X even more than Civ, and that's saying a lot.
    Until we hear anything about Firaxis working with EA again, I wouldn't expect anything SMAC related.

    Or at least a spiritual successor a la System Shock - Bioshock or something... D:

    I'd giggle with glee if they announced another Pirates! game. Although, I'd probably giggle with glee at anything they announce.

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  • RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I talked my parents into buying me Civilization I because it was educational.

    Somehow, I don't think that strategy is going to work with my wife & Civilization V. :)

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  • FoefallerFoefaller Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I talked my parents into buying me Civilization I because it was educational.

    Somehow, I don't think that strategy is going to work with my wife & Civilization V. :)

    Tell her if you get this, you won't be spending money on games for [strike]a month[/strike] [strike]3 months[/strike] [strike]6 months[/strike] a year...

    best part, you'd be telling the truth! :P

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  • psycojesterpsycojester Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    XiaNaphryz wrote: »
    I just wish that my dad had any kind of interest in computer games, he would love stuff like this.
    Oh, and +1 to the Alpha Centauri 2 petition fan club or something.
    That game seriously needs to be done, I like SMAC/X even more than Civ, and that's saying a lot.
    Until we hear anything about Firaxis working with EA again, I wouldn't expect anything SMAC related.

    Or at least a spiritual successor a la System Shock - Bioshock or something... D:

    Sid Meier's Horse Head Nebula.

    Make it happen Sid.

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  • XiaNaphryzXiaNaphryz Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    GameInformer - 9.75/10
    I encourage everyone, from strategy newbs who spend most of their time in online FPS matches to grognards who could teach me a thing or two about the optimal distribution of forces in hex-based combat, to give Civilization V a shot. As a hardcore strategy gamer who is no stranger to planning out my empire's production dozens of turns in advance, I've already turned to Civ V for my world-conquering needs – but at the same time, if anything is going to rear a new generation of strategy gamers like the very first Civilization did for me, it's this.

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  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    XiaNaphryz wrote: »

    Man, the intro to that review is insulting as fuck.

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  • XiaNaphryzXiaNaphryz Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Looking through the manual, it seems the old tech tree image posted at Well of Souls several weeks back is still accurate.

    fw36n6.jpg

    Also, 10 cool things in Civilization V that weren't in Civilization IV. What caught my eye that I didn't know yet:
    7) Shopping sprees
    When you used gold to buy something in Civilization IV, it went through the production queue. In Civilization V, buying things is completely independent of the production queue. If you've got the cash to burn, you can basically buy every single building in a city on the same turn. Note that you can't buy multiple military units in one turn. The first unit will fill up the city's garrison slot, so you can't purchase additional units until that first one gets out of the way. Which it won't be able to do until it gets its movement points next turn.
    3) Kinder, gentler pillaging
    Pillaging does not destroy the improvement in a tile! In the past, when barbarians or enemy armies tore up your roads, farms, and plantations, it was a royal pain in the butt rebuilding everything. But in Civlization V, a pillaged tile retains a smoking damaged version of the improvement. It won't have any effect on the tile, but you'll be able to repair it much more easily than you'd have to rebuild it. Perhaps best of all, you don't have to deal with the hassle of trying to remember what you had there in the first place. Royal pain in the butt addressed!
    2) Recon mission cleared for take-off
    In Civilization IV, you had to manually fly recon missions for your airplanes every turn. What a drag. If there's one thing a king doesn't want to do, it's play air traffic controller every turn. But in Civilization V, you'll never launch another recon missions. Instead, aircraft are assumed to be running recon missions every turn, which is represented by giving them a six hex visibility range.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    XiaNaphryz wrote: »
    I just wish that my dad had any kind of interest in computer games, he would love stuff like this.
    Oh, and +1 to the Alpha Centauri 2 petition fan club or something.
    That game seriously needs to be done, I like SMAC/X even more than Civ, and that's saying a lot.
    Until we hear anything about Firaxis working with EA again, I wouldn't expect anything SMAC related.

    Or at least a spiritual successor a la System Shock - Bioshock or something... D:

    Sid Meier's Horse Head Nebula.

    Make it happen Sid.

    Sid Meier's Top Man-Horse.

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  • ArghyArghy Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Guys important update, 2 days 12 hours until the game comes out.

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    That tech tree gives me the nerdiest boner ever

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  • SurikoSuriko AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Thank the lord about those aircraft improvements. Recon missions were a pain in the ass.

    Still kinda bummed about religion's removal as a mechanic, and the tech tree looks a bit more sparse, but otherwise the signs so far for this look good.

    Edit: Well, aside from the inevitable DLC whoring given the publisher.

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  • XiaNaphryzXiaNaphryz Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Suriko wrote: »
    the tech tree looks a bit more sparse
    Most of the missing techs from Civ 4 are either religion related or civil/social related, and the roles/bonuses for the latter moved over to social policies. Everything else is pretty much there.

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  • tofutofu Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    God damn this game looks so good

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Biology leads naturally to.....electricity?

    Uh, right.

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  • tofutofu Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Why does everyone get hung up on Biology -> Electricity?

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  • XiaNaphryzXiaNaphryz Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Biology leads naturally to.....electricity?

    Uh, right.
    Both biology and steam power are the prereqs.

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  • SurikoSuriko AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    It is one of the more non-nonsensical ones.

    Though there are some other excellent ones in this tree. Learning how things are bought and sold as well as what happens when you mix different substances together naturally leads to the discovery of a systematic approach to slaughtering people. Once you've got that down the only next logical step is to exploit the power of water that has been heated into a gas.

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